Now, instead writing upteen lines of code to take advantage of a Flickr or Google Maps API, Zend is making it possible to do the same thing in two lines of code and Herren is here at Mashup Camp wowing developers with demonstrations of how. Why is this important? Well, if you're Yahoo, eBay, Amazon, or any one of the hundreds of other API providers on the Internet today, servicing mashup developers and you want your APIs to be readily and easily available to PHP developers, then it makes sense for you to use Zend's framework to build PHP-based widgets for accessing those same APIs. Although we didn't talk much about his involvement with Zend, I caught up with John for a podcast interview during one of the breaks here at camp. You can download the audio interview, or, if you're already subscribed to ZDNet's IT Matters series of interviews, it will be downloaded to your computer or MP3 player automatically.