Does the US Apple-Samsung verdict matter in Australia?

Does the US Apple-Samsung verdict matter in Australia?

Summary: Australia's court case deciding whether Samsung devices infringe on Apple's patents won't be overshadowed by the recently concluded US case, according to lawyers.

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Apple's recent win against Samsung in a US court is unlikely to have any major effect on the case currently occurring in Australia, according to legal experts.

Not only is it almost certain that the US decision will be appealed, but the points being argued by Apple are very different in the US and Australia.

Even though the patents that are being argued over look similar — both the US and the Australian court cases are examining Samsung's 3G patent and Apple's edge-bounce patent, for example — this doesn't meant that the result will be the same.

The products being examined are different, the patents filed in Australia are not identical to the patents filed in the US, the claims made on those patents are different and the laws governing the patents are different, according to Watermark Intellectual Asset Management senior associate Mark Summerfield, who also writes the Patentology blog. In addition, although Apple has registered designs in Australia, it hasn't had them examined, he said, which means that design considerations won't come into play as they have in the US.

"The trade dress and design infringement issues which were a big part of the US case are not in play in Australia. The patent issues overlap, but the law, the evidence and the general conduct of the case in Australia is different. The US verdict tells us very little about the likely outcome in Australia, so there is no reason for Samsung to seek settlement," he said.

"Even if Apple tries to raise the US decision as somehow relevant, I expect Justice [Annabelle] Bennett would give such submissions short shrift."

Spruson and Ferguson patent lawyer Lee Pippard agreed that the outcome of the Australian case would not likely be influenced by the US verdict.

"While our laws are generally aligned, there are still enough differences to permit different judgments."

In addition to the variations in the patents and in law between Australia and the US, there are other differences between the US and Australian court systems. For example, the Apple-Samsung verdict was handed down by a jury in the US, while in Australia it will be decided by Justice Annabelle Bennett.

This will likely affect the outcome of the case significantly, as juries do not always have the necessary expertise to be able to reach a technical verdict competently, and, in the case of the US Apple-Samsung verdict, the verdict was reached in a very short time.

"The origins of the jury and the speed with which a decision was made have cast doubt upon the thoroughness of their review," Pippard said.

It only took the jury 21 hours to reach a verdict. The jury foreman, who holds a patent himself, told Reuters that the jury was able to reduce deliberation time because some members had engineering and legal experience, which helped with the complex issues. Often the concern with juries is that they don't have the knowhow to be able to meet the decisions required for cases.

Bennett, on the other hand, who does have experience in the area of patents, would take time on her deliberations and will be hearing more testimony than the jury did in the US case, where Judge Lucy Koh limited testimony per side to 25 hours. The Australian case is set to run until at least May 2013.

"Justice Bennett is an experienced patent lawyer and judge. She also has a science degree. She is hearing weeks of testimony, reading volumes of evidence and taking lessons in the technology," Summerfield said.

"When the time comes, she will not rush to judgment, and she will have to provide detailed reasons for her decision; not just tick some boxes."

However, although Pippard believes that any result in Australia would be respected internationally, Summerfield said that our decision would not matter much in a global sense. He believes that Apple and Samsung will continue to battle it out in courts in various markets across the globe, testing which features it can use and which it needs to design workarounds for, as it makes its products more innovations than imitations.

"They can afford to keep doing this forever," he said.

And given that the US is Apple's home market, with numbers released during the trial showing that Apple has to this point been outselling Samsung there, while Samsung is beating Apple globally on smartphone sales, the most important battles are yet to come.

Topics: Legal, Apple, Samsung, Australia

Suzanne Tindal

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  • US Consumers are only losers with this decision.

    While the rest f the world will get the greatest tech. US consumers will only see an iPhone whatever with archaic technology. Apple followers will say ooh ahhh about nothing (aka Siri and similar gimmicks).

    While Androids sell at an average of a million a day, I phones would need to sell 30 million in a day to make any dent on market share.

    Let the US be stuck with OLD tech (IOs), while the rest of the world becomes more competitive. The greater the gap, the more US economy and consumers will suffer because the rest of the world will become more efficient.

    Monopolies are bad, and the US legal system keeps making this mistake over and over. Cellphone tech will follow internet infrastructure. There is good reasons why smart phones are made in Korea and China and not the US. This will only make matters worse for US consumers.
    Uralbas
    • Re: US Consumers are only losers with this decision.

      Have an upvote. The US is accustomed to thinking of itself as the centre of the world. That’s no longer true economically, and it was certainly never true in the mobile phone market. We’ve already seen how new mobile products tend to be introduced in other markets first, with the US down near the end of the chain, and the US fondness for hobbling market competition with monopolistic patents is just making things worse.
      ldo17
      • Consumers win appre USA's verdict against Samsung, but Australia's and any

        ... other country's court system is independent and could care less of what happens in other countries.

        Apple has to lay out their arguments fare and square every time in every country and see if they are found as convincing as they were in USA or now.

        Since the case is blatantly obvious (if you look at Samsung Galaxy Y, Galaxy Ace and such further than very close, you certainly have chances to confuse it with iPhone 3Gs), most of the time Apple should prevail. The same is with software patents about UI behaviour.
        DDERSSS
        • Apple only prevailed in its back yard

          That's reality, everywhere else it had lost. That spells trouble for Apple going forward.
          Uralbas
          • Actually, they did not lose 'everywhere else'.

            From what I understand they only lost in South Korea (null result) and the UK (also null result). Australia won't be decided until May 2013. They won in Germany. So that hardly means they lost everywhere else.
            NOmoreMicrosoftATall
          • Limited win

            What about Holland?
            Little Old Man