Australian naked DSL mega-roundup

Australian naked DSL mega-roundup

Summary: Since last November when iiNet very loudly launched its naked DSL product, "naked" has been on everybody's lips, and it seemed like everybody was in on it. Some, however have held out. This round-up of 13 ISPs looks into who's got it, who doesn't and who wants to.

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Since last November, when iiNet very loudly launched its naked DSL product, "naked" has been on everybody's lips, and it seemed like everybody was in on it. Some, however have held out. This round-up of 13 of Australia's largest internet service providers looks into who's got naked already, who doesn't and who wants to.

Naked DSL refers to ADSL broadband that is sold without an attached analog telephone line. Some providers sell Naked DSL with attached internet telephony phone lines, which provide phone calls over the internet.

ISP Offers naked DSL? If not, when? If yes, how popular is it? What's the verdict?
AAPT No Undecided N/A "We think with the price point that naked's gone out at, it's going to be difficult for [providers] to make money," says David Yuile, general manager networks and technology. "We think naked's got a place, but it's got to settle," he added.
Adam Internet Yes N/A One third of all sign-ups "It's a really cool new product, but lots of people don't understand it," says MD Scott Hicks, referring to the necessary loss of internet and communications for around 20 days. There was also confusion about the savings. "The real cost savings come from making calls," he said.
Amcom Yes N/A Five to 10 per cent of monthly sales Take-up is not as dramatic as for competitors such as iiNet, who have been "thrashing it in any way possible", according to an Amcom spokesperson.
Eftel No Will be offering it soon N/A "You'll find more and more people just want the bare line going into their house," a spokesperson says, although they admitted the loss of internet for 20 days had caused consumer backlash for companies like iiNet. "I think the people who are choosing to move are willing to put up with the downtime," they continued.
Exetel Yes N/A Naked DSL accounts for almost 50 per cent of total ADSL2+ orders "Naked DSL has a formidable threat from 3G. With 3G prices continually falling, why wouldn't someone use their mobile as a modem at home, and away from home?... [But] users who download more than four gigabytes per month will need to use DSL," says an Exetel spokesperson.
iiNet Yes N/A 25,000 and counting "The train's started and has just kept on going," says Greg Bader, iiNet CTO. "We made iiNet synonymous with naked".
Internode Yes The next few months will see Internode offer naked on its own DSLAMs Third of all sign-ups "It's sold better than we were expecting it to," says Jim Kellett, product manager. Operating from the company's own equipment over unbundled local loop, Internode will now be targeting those people who live over four kilometres from an exchange. "We've been quite staggered by the potential number of customers," he says.
iPrimus Yes N/A In the thousands. Single digit per cent of total sales. CEO Ravi Bhatia says it doesn't save people money. "It's a marketing furphy ... I feel very queasy about marketing it, because what am I offering? It's very smart marketing, because it's a smart name."
Netspace No Later in the year N/A "Obviously it's got its limitations," MD Stuart Marburg says. He has a monitored alarm system which precludes him from using it.
Optus No Unknown N/A "We've always had a stand-alone broadband product on the cable broadband offering," a spokesperson says.
Soul No Currently planning a product, release date unknown N/A N/A
Spin Internet Yes for business. Had consumer product, but stopped it before the craze started. One or two months to new consumer product. Business take-up small, under five per cent of all customers. Expected take-up for consumer is 20 to 30 per cent. "We think the line rental shouldn't be written off as much as it is," a spokesperson says. The success of naked after Spin gave up on it rankled. "It bugs me being a marketing manager, us having done it before and not thinking of the 'naked' catchphrase."
Telstra No No plans N/A "We believe most Australians want the security and reliability of a home phone," said a spokesperson.

Topics: Broadband, Browser, Telcos, Optus, Telstra, NBN

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  • Telstra

    "We believe most Australians want the security and reliability of a home phone," said a spokesperson."

    Chumps.....
    anonymous
  • Naked

    Love it!

    I no longer pay line rental nor do I pay for local or national calls. How can some of the ISPs in the story say there are no savings??!?

    They are just sorry they haven't jumped on the bandwagon OR are happy stealing money off their clients for line rental THAT IS NOT NEEDED.

    If you love ringing your friends and family anywhere in Australia to chat for ages, ths is for you. I ring my parents who live down south and we can natter for hours for free. Plus super fast broadband :)

    Viva La iiNet!
    anonymous
  • Optus' ignorance

    Optus: "We've always had a stand-alone broadband product on the cable broadband offering."

    Sure - If you're lucky enough to live somewhere in Optus' ridiculously small cable footprint. What about the heaps of us who don't?

    $69.95 for ADSL2+ plus $29.95 for phone service I never use -- sounds like a 43% tax on my Internet service!
    anonymous
  • Line rental ignorance

    The who believe they no longer pay line rental when they go naked amazes me. To get naked DSL you need a line - a cable pair from the modem to the DSLAM port. Telstra still charge the ISP a line rental charge for the use of the cable pair. The ISP just doesn't absorb this charge out of the goodness of their heart. They pass that cost on. So believe it or not you still pay line rental with a naked plan.

    What you don't pay for is a Telstra PSTN phone service.
    anonymous
  • iiNet wasnt first.

    Amcom actually beat iiNet in offering NakedDSL first.
    anonymous
  • Exetel

    Well, mate, check out Exetel. Their plans don't seem like they pass on any costs to you!
    anonymous
  • Subject to change

    just wait and see
    anonymous
  • iPrimus

    There is no mention of IPrimus offering Naked DSL on their website.
    anonymous
  • What about Gotalk

    I know they arn't that big but I am on one of there naked dsl plans and it is awesome value. $85 a month for adsl 2+ with 12gig on peak and more calls than we ever come close to using. It isn't that fast for adsl 2 + but I am happy for the price.
    anonymous
  • ASKOM Naked DSL

    There are alternatives to the makor players.

    ASKOM www.askom.com.au also offers competitive plans.
    anonymous