Benchmarking the iPhone 5
Summary: Apple's latest iPhone outperforms its 4S predecessor by a significant margin, but is matched in most areas by Samsung's Android flagship, the Galaxy S III.
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Only a couple of weeks ago ...
Even then the figures showed comparable performance on both. Good to see that the hyperbole at launch subsided and made way for more sober assessments.
1752 versus 854 is not comparable
Depends if you like 3-D games of course...
... i'm sorry your mom dropped you when you were young...
another note: just because a score is doubled does not mean it has double the frame rate prcessing speed. that is not how these scores work. so take your ignorant assuming a$$ back to school and do your homework.
Typical
When you have to resort to insults, it's clear that you've already lost the argument.
It would seem that only in very rare situations that make heavy use of parallel processing can any advantage be seen on the Samsung device. Otherwise, across the board and especially anything GPU related, the iPhone 5 blows the Android flagship device away. Also, this is the very best case scenario (SG3 running Jellybean... really, how many of them out there?).
typical of what?
You on the other hand bring up good points about the iPhone GPU. It is better than the GS3, but it doesn't blow it away by any measure. And as i said before, benchmarks are only guidelines. Not a single one of them measure what a phone can do in the real world. Android has proven time and again it is better at multi-tasking than any apple device ever, and that is the true test of a phone. How much can it do at one time before it is bogged down and you can actually see diminished quality?
Name calling...
Right, and was the subject title for your post? Allow me to remind you. "... i'm sorry your mom dropped you when you were young...". Honestly, this is simply insulting and childish. I really takes away from any potential point you have to make.
"It is better than the GS3, but it doesn't blow it away by any measure. "
Well, I suppose it's hard to find a technical definition for "blows it away". To me, being better than another product by 10%, 20% maybe even 30% is just beating it. Beyond that though, you pretty much fall into the "blows away" category. The differential here, as evidenced by these benchmarks is clearly well beyond that measurement.
"Android has proven time and again it is better at multi-tasking than any apple device ever, and that is the true test of a phone."
For starters, it would seem that the true test of a phone would be to make phone calls, but I suppose that's a different argument. Second, when you make blind statements like "better at multi-tasking than any apple device ever", then that would also include Mac computers running OS X. Do you still contend this is the case? If so, please illustrate how this is true.
As for mobile devices, good designs are about trade-offs. Nothing comes for free. Having multiple applications comes at the price of battery performance, the need for more memory and overall sluggishness as resources become low. iOS devices don't suffer from any of this due to design decisions which limit user land multitasking. To that end, you speak of practical benefits, so knowing that iOS does allow services to multitask, I would ask you to provide a few practical use cases whereby Android provides a clear advantage over iOS in this regard. Having used both devices myself, I'm not clear on what those advantages would be. Please enlighten me.
this is getting old...
so here's the basic recap of what i had said...
instults --> something about cry me a river. Star King said something silly, i called him out on it.
"To me, being better than another product by 10%, 20% maybe even 30%" --> Where in the world did you find anything besides that one benchmark test (whichagain, means next to nothing) that says iOS6 is >30% better than Android at anything?
"phone" and "apple device" --> I am sooo sorry. i thought that since this article was covering the iphone 5 and the samsung galaxy gs3 that we intelligent folk would understand i was talking about SMARTphones and iPhones in my original arguement. Alas i must be more thoughtful to being specific so that you can't demerit my arguments with semantics.
as far as multitasking. I am sorry i did not cite sources in my previous homework assignment. I thought it was a pretty well known fact that Android whoops the iPhone in multitasking. But since you seem unconvinced. Here some others that agree with me:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fandroid-ice-cream-sandwich-better-than-ios-2011-12%3Fop%3D1&ei=C8WBULuOM8bE0QG9koCQBw&usg=AFQjCNHBhr6pIyUQHVHFoh9OFsxsxc5myQ&sig2=RvHZzjs13teOS-esjjXmYQ
"Android has always been better at multitasking then iOS"
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112013-how-multitasking-works-on-android-and-ios
"In fact, almost nothing in the multitasking bar is truly “multitasking.” "
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CFoQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theserverside.com%2Ftip%2FAndroid-versus-iOS-What-Really-Matters&ei=C8WBULuOM8bE0QG9koCQBw&usg=AFQjCNHYpSNtz536bpEVTfGUfFofFFC5_Q&sig2=pUmLEvizidPamS4Bms28tA
"Android tends to do more true multitasking than iOS"
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=16&cad=rja&ved=0CFEQFjAFOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.poketors.com%2F2012%2F07%2F5-reasons-android-40-is-better-than-ios.html&ei=CceBULX2COnm0gGetIDoBQ&usg=AFQjCNH489Ib7txQDMzWvQrCnsdS_ltjHg&sig2=1NKdP8yP0_QNUeU0KnfYjA
This one isn't even a Jelly Bean Comparison
"Ice Cream Sandwich offers a much better and more advanced multitasking option for users than iOS"
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&cad=rja&ved=0CFgQFjAGOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fhow-android-ice-cream-sandwich-compares-to-ios-6-2012-6%3Fop%3D1&ei=CceBULX2COnm0gGetIDoBQ&usg=AFQjCNHMAqjBKEJPUJt2m2XlMr0lY-EYUg&sig2=WF37vgSqoC9RLNEXB5MXMA
Also an ICS comparison
"Android is much better at managing multiple apps than iOS"
http://www.latinospost.com/articles/3125/20120821/apple-ios-6-and-android-ice-cream-sandwich-why-the-android-operating-system-prevails-over-apple-from-multitasking-to-texting-features.htm
This one is comparing IOS5 to Gingerbread... that's G...H...I...Jelly Bean... that's 3 versions ago and this article says multitasking is about even (which is a stretch of the truth in favor of apple, in any case... wow)
"Multitasking Capabilities – Although iOS 5 and Gingerbread 2.3.3 fair almost equally in the parameter"
http://android.appstorm.net/general/opinion/what-i-miss-about-android-thoughts-from-an-ios-user/
"Apple made a big deal about [multitasking], it’s still not up to par with Android’s"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722718
"IOS has fake multitasking where you can't download while doing anything else and apps are put into suspension when you leave them and stop running."
http://www.imore.com/ios-6-multitasking-fast-app-switcher
This guy doesn't necessarily say Android is better, but he says apple needs help with multitasking and includes android as a viable alternative
"Is iOS 6 the time for Apple to revamp multitasking fast app switching for the iPhone? For the iPad? For mobile?"
http://www.siyge.com/2012/06/top-5-reasons-why-android-is-better.html
"Sure iOS has multitasking now, but Android has real multitasking the same type of multitasking which is present in the PC"
http://lifehacker.com/5750114/five-ways-the-android+powered-google-tablet-is-better-than-the-ipad
"While iOS never claimed to have true multitasking, Apple's avoided it primarily due to battery life and performance concerns"
http://www.thegadgetmasters.com/2012/04/08/10-reasons-why-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-is-better-than-apples-ios/
http://www.thegadgetmasters.com/2012/04/08/10-reasons-why-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-is-better-than-apples-ios/
"Android utilizes the entire screen with screenshots of the running applicaitons compared to iOS, where multitasking is only done using the dock at the bottom. iOS wastes the entire screen space when it comes to multitasking."
Shall i continue?
Get a life!!!
nope!
It doesn't mean anything of the sort
This is why the Tegra 3 has actually produced better looking effects in most games and still manages to run them at 60 FPS.
Bottom line, once you cross 30 FPS the game is going to be pretty smooth and Android caps games at 60 FPS via a v sync mechanism. And the superior FPU of the S3 means that you can offset the difference by using the CPU to draw polygons and the GPU to shade them.
The truth is, Benchmarks are good for bragging rights but that's about it.
that's what ive been trying to say
How you know?
"Android must be this, Android must be that"
In fact, you have absolutely no clue whether iOS does not provide APIs to use both the CPU and the GPU for certain tasks. Judging by what is available in OS X (and the underlying OS is the same), that might well be the case.
After all, Apple themselves designed both the CPU/GPU and the software that operates it.
Besides, it's funny that nobody recognises the importance of memory bandwidth. This makes for *huge* difference. It doesn't help if your CPU is plenty fast if it only can achieve that speed running (small) loops.
Remember that Cray computers in the past? Their CPUs weren't much that fast anyway, but compared to other computers at the time they had *huge* bandwidth bus between the CPU and the rest of the system, resulting in unbeatable performance.
Anyway, performance and benchmarks are two different things.
What would you prefer? To know your device benchmarks better, or know your device runs better? I would care less about benchmarks.
By the way, what about battery life?
What?
These RAW Numbers are why Imagination Technology has really only had limited appeal with anyone outside of the Mobile and Tablet sectors...
As for Battery Life, both the Note and the SGS 3 are said to be better with Battery Life.
Quadcore?
Will there be a difference?
Yes.
Yes and YES!!!!
My guess is this article was sponsored by Samsung. If it was truly independent, then I'd expect to see cellular data benchmarks, too, but the article doesn't even mention data services, which is where the European SG3 would fail to compare at all to the iPhone 5. Heck, the article doesn't even mention that the iPhone 5 has only dual cores or that the model of SG3 isn't available in the U.S. The fact that the SG3 is described as having quad cores would seem to be the author's lame attempt to appear impartial.
No fair comparable tests done yet with US version of SG3
Though there is some evidence that the dual core snapdragon does perform better than the quadcore exynos in certain benchmarks. Doesn't the US version have more ram and isn't the dual core chip run at a higher rate? We'll see soon. Maybe by next month.
Well?
real world tests
bluetooth file transfer speed:
Iphone5: 0
SGS3: much more than 0
time to assign song as ringtone:
iphone5: about 2 minutes with itunes, about 5 mins if I have to boot PC and start itunes. much more than that if I haven't downloaded itunes.
SGS3: under 1 second.
attaching a file to email
iphone5: wtf is a file?
SGS3: around 10sec
downloading some pr0n
iphone5: there's no pr0n on the net
SGS3: download in progress
battery swaps
iphone5: about 10 mins if you are good with tools
SGS3: about 30 seconds with blindfold on
Swapping SD cards:
iphone5: what sd card
SGS3: fiddly but possible with just one hand and a chin
sharing a URL via barcode
iphone5: highlight and copy URL from browser, open barcode app, paste URL in barcode app. about 20seconds or so.
SGS3: menu--->share--->barcode. about 3 seconds if you pause 1 second between clicks.
I could write a book on this!
yep!