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Apple’s stingy employee discount

By | January 26, 2012, 7:00am PST

Summary: Instead of $83 off an iPad, Apple could have given each employee a solid gold iPad — worth around $36,000 — and barely made a dent into profits. Or maybe a brand new 2012 Mercedes Benz C-class perhaps?

How's this for an employee incentive: a solid gold iPad! by Jason O'Grady

Apple announced record earnings again last quarter, surpassing all previous records and making Apple the envy of technology companies and Wall Street. Although $AAPL’s reported revenue topped $100 billion (yes, with a ‘b’) for the year, it continues to stiff its employees.

Exhibit A comes from CEO Tim Cook’s town hall meeting with his rank and file employees yesterday. Word leaked out that Apple will be offering a new discount to its employees.

So far, so good. Everyone likes a good discount.

According to 9to5Mac, Cook told employees that Apple would be offering employees a new discount of $500 off a Mac and $250 off an iPad.

Sounds good, right?

(I have to confess to immediately flipping through my mental Rolodex to the letter A as I started thinking about contacts I could reach out to about the discount.)

The problem is that Cook’s “discount” is a charade that amount to nothing more than a soundbite.

For starters, the deal — as told by 9to5 — comes with a lot of strings attached:

  1. It’s for full-time employees only — No surprises there, contractors are usually commoditized at most big employers.
  2. You have to have worked at Apple for at least 90 days — This is the “bozo clause” that eliminates the incentive to get a job at Apple, you know, just for the $500 off.
  3. The program begins in June — Typical corporate bureaucracy in full effect.
  4. The Mac mini isn’t included — No $99 Mac for you!
  5. Employees can only take advantage once every three years — This was the impetus for this post and is offensive on several levels.

So, when you weight all the heavy prerequisites above and factor in the three-year clause, the employee nets a $166 discount per year for a Mac or a $83 discount per year for an iPad.

$166 or $83!

Geez. Apple could have at least made it annual.

Odds are that the employee’s discounted MacBook Air or iPad will be in a landfill (or hopefully recycled) by the time they’re eligible again for the discount. Some incentive.

(If it were closer to the holidays I’d be tempted to photoshop Cook’s head onto the body of The Grinch.)

Did I mention that Apple earned an average of $400,000 in profit per employee last year?

“For that, dear employees, I will grant you a $166 discount on a Mac — just not a Mac mini.”

Here’s a thought: how about a dividend.

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Jason O'Grady is a journalist and author specializing in mobile technology. He has published six books on Apple and mobile gadgets and his PowerPage blog has been publishing for over 15 years.

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Biography

Jason D. O'Grady

Jason D. O'Grady developed an affinity for Apple computers after using the original Lisa, and this affinity turned into a bona-fide obsession when he got the original 128 KB Macintosh in 1984.

He started writing one of the first Web sites about Apple (O'Grady's PowerPage) in 1995 and is considered to be one of the fathers of blogging. He has been a frequent speaker at the Macworld Expo conference and a member of the conference faculty. He also co-founded the first dedicated PowerBook User Group (PPUG) in the United States.

After winning a major legal battle with Apple in 2006, he set the precedent that independent journalists are entitled to the same protections under the First Amendment as members of the mainstream media.

O'Grady is the author of The Nexus One Pocket Guide, The Droid Pocket Guide, The Google Phone Pocket Guide, and The Garmin nuvi Pocket Guide (Peachpit Press), the author of Corporations That Changed the World: Apple Inc. (Greenwood Press), and a contributor to The Mac Bible (Peachpit Press). In addition, he has contributed to numerous Mac publications over the years, including MacWEEK, Macworld, and MacPower (Japan).

When he's not writing about Apple for ZDNet at The Apple Core, he enjoys spending time with his family in New Jersey.

Talkback Most Recent of 115 Talkback(s)

  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    I'm guessing they're also not taking a loss on any of the devices they sell to employees with those discounts. They're just not getting as much profit.

    But I'm sure there are other benefits...
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    Badgered
    26th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    Except for number 4 which is odd every option there seems fair. To expect a company to offer a discount regularly is being unfair.

    Maybe 3 years is a bit stiff but I though Macs were supposed to last for years? I keep my Windows PCs 4-5 years on average, they get upgrades but it's the same PC.

    "So, when you weight all the heavy prerequisites above and factor in the three-year clause, the employee nets a $166 discount per year for a Mac or a $83 discount per year for an iPad."

    That's a ridiculous way to look at it. It's a $500 off a Mac and $250 off an iPad discount.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    bradavon
    26th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    @bradavon you have to work for Apple right? Come on.
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    tessab13
    27th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    @bradavon

    The reason the every three year discount is stingy is because the point of a discount is so not only you can get it, but also your spouse, and immediate family. With the once every three year policy you cannot let your family benefit also, which with most discounts of this type is allowed at large cos. I mean even Wal-Mart does this an employee and their immediate family get a 10% discount on all purchases with no limit. Apple is just being cheap. I think 4 and 5 are pretty lame for a co. like Apple. But hey that's just Apple being Apple and I cannot say I am surprised. I mean come on Jobs was ready to disown one of his own kids. His low class attitude probably spread like a virus to the other execs and it is showing.

    One of his dying wishes was probably to scr3w the employees.
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    alphaxi3
    27th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    @Badgered Theres probably tax implications for employees too that make it hard for Apple to simply give away stuff or make a loss on stuff. Imagine getting a gift from apple and then having to pay $400 in fringe benefit tax at the end of the financial year.
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    global.philosopher
    26th Jan
  • True
    @global.philosopher
    When we opened the Apple Store I worked at I won a raffle for a new iBook laptop. The IRS calls that a "bonus" and I had to pay income tax (State and Federal) on the full retail value of the laptop (about $1100).
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    use_what_works_4_U
    27th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    @global.philosopher
    There are no tax implications. It is not a gift; it is a transaction. It is the same as any other discount you would give to a company or group of people.
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    MichaelWells
    30th Jan
  • Yeah.. Jason is being an ignorant tool...
    @Badgered

    That 500.00/250.00 is after an employee discount with happens to be 25%... And lets not forget medical, dental, 401K, employee stock, etc...

    But Jason seems to think that this 500.00/250.00 is the only perk Apple employees get... A wee bit obtuse, eh Jason?
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    i8thecat4
    27th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    So, "Workers of the (Apple) world unite!"? As an Apple stockholder, entrepreneur and fervent capitalist your rant sounds like maybe Mr. Cook is being too generous.
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    dheady@...
    26th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    @dheady@...
    So, "Workers of the (Apple) world unite!"?

    No, that would actually be more apropos to the Red Chinese they employ by the hundreds of thousands, instead of American workers like they once did. Modern day sweatshop labor never looked so good.

    That's so they can go from insane profits stateside to obscene ones overseas.
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    klumper
    26th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    @klumper Do you really think the workers are 'red' Chinese? Besides, read the NYTimes ( can't believe I'm referencing that rag) article. The US doesn't have the engineers.
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    dheady@...
    27th Jan
  • Of course the USA doesn't have the brainpower any longer
    @dheady
    Do you really think the workers are 'red' Chinese? Besides, read the NYTimes (can't believe I'm referencing that rag) article. The US doesn't have the engineers.

    Well Foxconn City is part of mainland China, as opposed to Taiwan island and Cupertino where the big mucks are, isn't it? Mainland China is communist and Red, isn't it? So how are these workers not Red Chinese? Hundreds of thousands of them to boot, conveniently supplanting American workers in our own obscenely profitable "American" corporations.

    Only the profits aren't really spreading far at this point. Forget all the "trickle down" BS theories. We're getting a rape and snow job instead.

    Naturally we can always count on one excuse after another from the one-world elite (not referring to you David). Only this country wasn't built on predatory capitalism, but on free enterprise where we always took care of our own first! Apple started this way, as did every other American business, before they sold out the nation -- and US workers in particular.

    Ditto re the engineering pool. During our entire history we not only had enough to start cutting edge companies, but to cover the bases thereafter. Businesses knew how to cultivate what they needed using homegrown resources and training incentive programs. Then as it became expeditious *AND CHEAPER* to import scab labor (blue collar) and scab engineers (gray collars), and export everything else via offshoring, the white collars in charge leapt with both feet first while the Feds sucked their thumbs and "conveniently" looked away.

    THERE WAS ENDLESS JACK TO BE MADE EXPLOITING FOREIGN WORKERS! And more money to shovel into private pockets. The floodgates were opened, every corpoRAT worth his hide jumped in, lest he be left behind. This potion has now become a poison to the country's collective + long term health. It's that simple. We're also exporting away the very BASES of these industries -- forever!

    All this was done with blessings from their business school advisers and venture capital financiers! The tech press mostly applauded along like seals.

    Bringing in a limited percentage of engineers as a buttress has never raised flags per se. But the LCD mentality to replace all but the top ivory collars with cheaper mercenaries is to be found everywhere at this point by those running the USA, flowing unchecked. And worse yet, the coders + scripters you speak of are foreign GOVT subsidized and educated, while ours inherit MEGA DEBT. The resultant and inherently uneven playing field only adds insult to injury.

    Net result = America continues to sink! Do you really believe this is simply a cyclical trend, as opposed to a systemic modus operandi at this point? *Think*//*
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    klumper
    27th Jan
  • you seem to forget that
    apple also offers a 25% discount on a new system every year. Which is why the mac mini is excluded since that would result in a total of about -$50 (yes that's a negative) before taxes.
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    bvirga0218@...
    26th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    @bvirga0218@...
    You might want to re-check your math on that one.
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    kris_stapley@...
    26th Jan
  • RE: Apple's stingy employee discount
    @kris_stapley@...
    The math seems correct, based on a $599 mac mini (note this does not include tax) - $599 * (1.0-.25=).75 -$500=-$50.75 + tax (for me that would be about $43 based on the $599 price for a net -$7.75).

    At one time I got a discount for being a developer and a supplier (of CAD software). I don't remember the percentage, but what I do remember is it only applied to high margin items like the macbook pro and generally I could find them as cheap from resellers.
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    Clewin
    1st Feb

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