Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
Summary: Mac developers are only now uncovering new bugs in Lion and even more surprising support for entire APIs. The Lion software compatibility picture is unclear and users of old and even recently updated third-party software should be very careful before taking on the new OS version.
From the eager and ofttimes frantic posts on discussion boards, it appears that Mac users have an intense yearning for the new and fresh when it comes to OS upgrades. On the other hand, they sound outraged with any report of third-party software incompatibilities with the just-released Lion, Mac OS X 10.7.
Mac developers are only now uncovering new bugs in Lion and even more surprising support for entire APIs. The Lion software compatibility picture is unclear and users of old and even recently updated third-party software should be very careful before taking on the new OS version.
The warnings keep coming for popular programs that require the Rosetta library, such as Quicken for Mac. I received today a warning message about Rosetta requirements for the Gorilla screenplay software (the new Lion-savvy version is coming in the fall). However, this PowerPC-emulation technology has been on the developer's orphan list for a long time.
Aside from Rosetta, what is and isn't under the hood of Lion's initial release was only finalized recently and could have implications for your favorite program's compatibility. And developers trying to keep customers informed and manage expectations may be caught in a bit of a Catch-22 situation.
For example, Karelia, the maker of Sandvox, an excellent CSS site development tool, has been dealing with complaints by longtime customers. A month or so ago, the company released a major Version 2 upgrade, which is long on great new features, but riled some users settled in their workflows. Growing pains. Then the company said that the older, simpler Version 1.x software wouldn't run on Lion.
On Tuesday, co-founder Terrence Talbot told readers of the Sandvox discussion list that this Version 1.x vs. Lion situation will likely change.
Sandvox 1.6.8 relies on a very specific library, from Apple, being available on the system. This library was not available on any developer builds of Lion that I saw since WWDC. This meant that our initial evaluation is that Sandvox 1.6.8 would not run on Lion.
In the latest GM release of Lion sent to developers last week, this library is suddenly now present. So far all of my preliminary tests indicate that Sandvox 1.6.8 works fine in this GM version of Lion, though I have not exhaustively tested every last feature.
We cannot make a final statement on Lion compatibility until Apple officially releases Lion to the public and we can see what's in and what's out. We'll know more tomorrow, we will do more tests, and we will update our official statement when we know more.
At this point, there is indication that everything might just work. But we don't know for sure until there is an official end-user release of Lion and we have had sufficient time to test.
The library in question is libcrypto, which has been a problem child to a number of developers. I understand that recently Xcode 4 did not provide the 10.5 SDK, which was needed for backwards compatibility with some libraries, including libcrypto. From Talbot's report, that situation seems to have changed.
For Mac users, it is clear is that if a workflow is working under Snow Leopard, there's no hurry to upgrade to Lion. And unless you have a clear need for Lion, then there's also no hurry to upgrade.
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RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
This is true on whatever system you use (Mac, Windows, Linux, something else).
However, start TODAY, like Windows before it there are significant advances in Lion, and you should take advantage of them as soon as you can... BUT not before you've made sure everything in your environment works (or can be replaced - if that's appropriate) and your users have the skills to use the software.
Isn't this obvious?
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
Windows 7 and 8 are miles ahead of Lion.
Apple, fix your bugs and software incompatibilities.
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RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
Yes, I'm sure he is.
[i]Lion eats Windows' lunch. They are so far ahead of Microsoft, you Windows users can't see the details.[/i]
Now that's funny. I've always thought that Apple hides the many details, and that's what makes OS X more user friendly. Ahead, behind... that depends on your PoV.
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RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
Just a couple of quick points/corrections. FreeBSD is [b]not[/b] Linux. Apple doesn't use a "special bios," they use EFI.
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RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
You obviously don't have anything else to do than to post those inane comments.
You are like many of those Apple or Microsoft fanboys. Fanatics! You are talking about computers, not religion. Unless of course for some people the OS is religion.
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
*jedi hand wave*
- Steve
Sent from my iPod.
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
Actually, if you *jedi hand wave*, Lion brings up the dashboard.
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
The problem with upgrades is people jumping blindly in to upgrade. The author needs his keyboard taken away for referencing Quicken for Mac, a product last released in 2007. See its funny, Apple has these things, that happen every year, where they work with developers to prepare them for the coming OS and IOS versions, its called the World Wide Developers Conference. So if you created an app back in 2007 and haven't updated it since, how is that Apple's fault? By the way, Intuit has since released a product called Quicken Essentials for Mac which works swimmingly.
We've seen Apple upgrade Final Cut and immediately throngs complained that their workflow was wrecked because such and such feature was removed in the new version that the old version had beach in 2005. Thats like complaining that you can't use RCA component connectors on that brand new 65" LED TV you just bought, because those VHS tapes of you at Disney World on the teacups were simply magic. Did Apple force you to upgrade your perfectly working suite to the "new" Final Cut? Did they push the change down without these folks consent? No is the final and resounding answer.
So Apple gets a pass on backward compatibility?
Four years (Quicken 2007) isn't that old for business...oh wait. :) Mac doesn't have business software, it has "graphics professional" software.
Quicken is a consumer program. Quickbooks is their business software.
And I'm sure graphics professionals are ecstatic to find out their $1,000+ software suites no longer work.
Apple. No wonder it's compared to a religious cult. If MS did something like that the howls would echo around the world.
(And no, 95%+ of all software worked on Vista, there were only a few holdouts who hadn't followed *10 year old* guidelines. MS is king of backward compatibility. Don't you wish Cupertino had fired up their copy machines now?) ROFL
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
Dude really? You're giving him a hard time about a typo? Really Dude?
[i]was removed in the new version that the old version had [b]beach[/b] in 2005.[/i]
Really Dude?
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
As much of an Apple supporter as I am, still, I'm not blind to their follies and an apologist for Steve Jobs. I've had pretty much the same problems with downloading and installing Lion. Multiple downloads hanging up for no reason, the inability to consistently resume where it left off, and multiple failed installation attempts left me feeling like it was Vista all over again.
RE: Lion: What's the hurry to upgrade?
Many users are doing fine work with older versions of Photoshop, etc. Many developers have been slow to move away from Rosetta APIs. Or the transition has been slower than they expected. And Snow Leopard works great.
Still, there's zero reason to upgrade to Lion TODAY unless you have summer time to kill working out the kinks.
I have to laugh
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