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Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n’-paste divide

By | June 29, 2010, 10:00am PDT

Summary: With Mac user ranks swelling with switchers from Windows, often misunderstandings crop up about each system’s implementation of a user interface. One of the sorest points surrounds a fundamental feature that everyone might believe was settled years ago: cut-and-paste. But the two systems see this function very differently. Now, a developer offers switchers a way to keep using their old, bad cut-and-paste Windows habits.

With Mac user ranks swelling with switchers from Windows, often misunderstandings crop up about each system’s implementation of a user interface. One of the sorest points surrounds a fundamental feature that everyone might believe was settled years ago: cut-and-paste. But the two systems see this function very differently. Now, a developer offers switchers a way to keep using their old, bad cut-and-paste Windows habits.

Here’s the basic problem: the Mac is a graphical interface and promotes the concept of drag-and-drop to move files around the interface. Users drag items from one “container” to another with either a copy or move operation. The Finder changes the cursor icon to reflect the status of the copy/more, it even offers users spring-loaded folders that will automatically open when the user drags an item over it. Drag-and-drop doesn’t use the Clipboard, which is the fundamental concept with the cut-and-paste operation used in documents.

Instead, Windows is all about cut and paste. It works for text in a document and with files and folders in the desktop.

For example, on the X vs. XP contest page, the writer dings the Mac because it doesn’t support selecting a piece of text and then pasting it onto the desktop. This is true, of course, but it ignores the Mac way of doing this task, which is to drag text out of a document onto the desktop. This action creates a Clipping file, a stored state of the Clipboard.

Notice that the Windows user can’t imagine the idea of dragging something over to Desktop. Windows users don’t interact the same way with the graphical interface and can’t grok the fundamental difference between Mac and Windows implementations. To a Windows user, cut and paste are the “natural” functions, not drag and drop.

Enter Kapeli’s moveAddict, a Snow Leopard-only application that provides  Windows cut-and-paste file/folder capability to Mac OS X. The $4.99 app  uses the Mac-standard Cmd-x/Cmd-v keyboard shortcuts. Developer Bogdan Popescu says that the original data remains untouched until the move is registered by the Finder.

Extras:
Merge folders. When moveAddict detects that you are trying to replace a folder, it lets you choose whether you want to completely replace the folder or merge the two.
Familiar keyboard shortcuts. You can use ⌘-X and ⌘-V as your shortcuts or you can choose your own.
No hacks. moveAddict doesn’t modify the Finder or any System file in any way. It’s just a regular application which you can uninstall by deleting it.
Easy to configure. The moment you run moveAddict, you can start cutting and pasting files. However, if you’d like to change something, you can do it in the preferences.

Fine. Be that way. But switchers, please consider dragging files around. Try it, you’ll like it - a real graphical interface.

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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
DennisMcCK 6th Jul 2010
@windozefreak
Windows can only "drag and drop files from one folder to another" if the destination folder is either open or showing in its parent folder's window. With Mac OS X, you could have a single window open, click and drag the file you want to copy/move, and hover over a disk or folder icon where you want to put it. The disk or folder will open in a new window where you can continue dragging to another folder, which opens a window, etc. Repeat this until you arrive at the destination folder. Release the mouse button, the file is copied/moved, and all the windows that were opened on the path to the destination are closed, leaving you right where you were before with the one window open.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
The Danger is Microsoft 29th Jun 2010
I had never moved text to the desktop. Always copy and pasted into TextEdit. Now I will always moved to the desktop. Totally cool and must faster/easier! Thanks for the tip David!
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@The Danger is Microsoft Try it with HTML! Try dragging something selected in Safari to the desktop, you'll see that nothing's changed! The same thing for Pages! I discovered this one two years ago and since then I'm using it for many cut & paste operations because I'm not taking the risk of losing data by accidentally replacing it.
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@The Danger is Microsoft
In windows you can drag and drop files from one folder to another. I believe this is accomplished more than moving a document to the desktop. OOps I'm Sory, just logged in again even thought your site said I was already logged in.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
StandardPerson Updated - 6th Jul 2010
@windozefreak
You can "drag and drop files from one folder to another" on Macs too, so this isn't an advantage or disadvantage of either OS. Perhaps I missed your point.
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@windozefreak
Windows can only "drag and drop files from one folder to another" if the destination folder is either open or showing in its parent folder's window. With Mac OS X, you could have a single window open, click and drag the file you want to copy/move, and hover over a disk or folder icon where you want to put it. The disk or folder will open in a new window where you can continue dragging to another folder, which opens a window, etc. Repeat this until you arrive at the destination folder. Release the mouse button, the file is copied/moved, and all the windows that were opened on the path to the destination are closed, leaving you right where you were before with the one window open.
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You're kidding, right? Dragging a mouse is way slower than using keyboard shortcuts. This is the reason keyboard shortcuts exist; to be a shortcut for finding an option with the mouse.
@Droid101
user. No need to learn just do. Or less time to learn just do. I will grant your basic point that keyboard commands are in theory faster but only if you want to take the time to learn such and a lot of people don't want to learn to use a computer they want to the computer and the UI to do things for them. Todays success for Apple is there are a great many people who don't want to EVER know anything about the workings of a computer.. No computer projects please. Just do it.

Pagan jim
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@James Quinn
> Todays success for Apple is there are a great many people
> who don't want to EVER know anything about the workings
> of a computer.

This makes me sad. Computers are, be design, complex. People who think they shouldn't be complex, shouldn't be using a computer above the most basic of tasks.

The attitude of 'its too hard!' is a bad one that has invaded the USA. In the computer field, however, it helps me to get paid so it's a mixed blessing.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
ItsTheBottomLine 29th Jun 2010
@James Quinn you are still funny...
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@lefty.crupps

Telephone technology is complex.
Automotive technology is complex.
Microwave ovens are complex.
CDs are complex.
Televisions are complex.

And yet, somehow people use them all the time.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
RationalGuy Updated - 29th Jun 2010
@lefty.crupps

Computers are, be design, complex. People who think they shouldn't be complex, shouldn't be using a computer above the most basic of tasks.

Computers are only complex by poor design. Engineers who think that even the most basic of tasks should be complex have no place designing computers.

Used to be to connect a printer to your PC, you had to install drivers, possibly amend the PATH variable, possibly change f-ing interrupt requests, dick around with dip switches, power the PC off, connect the printer with this giant cable, turn on the PC and pray that you didn't have a driver conflict and that your computer started without blowing up. Now you plug in one little USB cable and print.

What is the correct way and which way is utterly, stupidly, needlessly, and senselessly complex?
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@James Quinn "but only if you want to take the time to learn such and a lot of people don't want to learn to use a computer they want to the computer and the UI to do things for them"

This is kind of like saying there are a lot of people who don't want to learn how to drive a car. This is not a smart attitute.

Besides when I see my employees doing things the slow way, if reflects on their performance reviews. Shortcuts are there to improve productivity. Don't use them and I will hire new, smarter people.
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@lefty.crupps

Cars are complex, but who needs to know how to repair them anymore. TVs are complex, but you no longer have to fiddle with the horizontal/vertical scan adjustment dials anymore.

If you know anything about thermodynamics, you will realized that modern refrigerators and air-conditioners are very complex... but I certainly don't need to know how they work to use one.

Apple is attempting to make the modern computer into an appliance. Turn it on, it works, do your stuff, don't worry about how it works... it just does.

PCs are still in, automotively speaking, largely in the model T era, where you would not dare drive from one city to the next without a tool kit, extra water and gas, a spare tire tube and patching kit, and the knowledge to use all of the above. PCs in general are getting to the point where users are having to work under the hood far less, and Apple is leading the way - for better or for worse.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
lelandhendrix@... 30th Jun 2010
@James Quinn
I disagree most strongly.

I grew up from Timex Sinclair to the PC-world, and it's always been about Windows until last year. In fact, I was anti-mac for years because they didn't have anything to offer me or the people I advised.

But last year I switched, and I still use Windows 7 for media center in the LR & BR, but I chose Mac OS for actually working with a computer.

AND, one of the FIRST things I did in making the transition to Mac was to print a FULL keyboard shortcut list--which, by the way, RIVALS WINDOWS'!

Even better about OS X keyboard shortcuts? They're pretty much universal. This means wherever I am, I know that I gives me an inspector, and common controls for switching fullscreen or even executing macros.

The most effecient way to be more productive is to learn how to not move your preferred hand away from the keyboard and onto the mouse. More specifically, becoming proficient with complex selections created only from the keyboard, can double a document creative's workflow.

This article strikes me a silly, because obviously Apple wants you to learn the keyboard shortcuts for the "power users'" who demand efficiency, unified to otherwise they wouldn't be so heartily implemented.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
lelandhendrix@... 30th Jun 2010
@James Quinn Oh, and all the most common key-combination shortcuts may be performed with the left hand--for the most obvious of reasons.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
_crystalsinger_ 1st Jul 2010
@rwgreene: Agreed. I fix computers for a living. It's amazing how many people claim they "know nothing about computers", yet somehow manage to install and configure a BitTorrent client to download all their illegal music and videos...

If people are motivated to learn how to do something, they usually find a way. Claiming ignorance/incompetence is often shorthand for "I don't see how this benefits me, so I couldn't be bothered learning how to do it".
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@Droid101 You forgot one fundamental thing of the "keyboard is much faster than a mouse" thing. The keyboard is only faster if you keep your hands on the keyboard. Of course, you could learn and use complicated keystroke combinations to switch between windows and elements, but this would result in a long search, especially if you have many windows and apps open. Using the mouse doesn't require any keyboard ? so you don't lose time switching back and forth ? and you don't lose time searching and skipping trough all elements. And I didn't even begin about precision.

Shortcuts are only handy when you work in the same app and especially in the same window. The odds of using the same windows when copying and pasting are very small.

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two handed earthlings
mswift@... 30th Jun 2010
@ctxppc
most earthlings have two hands. One hands runs the pointing device and the other works the keyboard.

The odds of using the same window may be small if you do a lot of notes and one page documents. If you are doing long documents like user manuals. or moving around web site pages on a 1000 page site, you will be working in the same window for long periods of time. Having a a quick and easy way to pick between cut and copy is a winner. For example, working on a long help document in our proprietary software we have sections for the managers, for the supervisors, and for the floor workers. Each section is complete, each section is somewhat repetitive as each higher user has a superset of the user below them. We don't show floor workers features that they don't need to know about or have no permission to access. Nothing is worse than put a feature on the screen that replies with a "you have no permission to do this". If you don't have permission, the item should not be availabe to you at all, just one of my design criteria.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
davidmorgenstern 29th Jun 2010
@Droid101 Dragging a mouse is way slower than using keyboard shortcuts

This is an assumption that keeps being disputed. User interface research in the 1980s showed that for most people, using the mouse to select menus and other interface tasks was faster.

FWIW, I use a combination, depending on how I feel at the moment. Maybe this is better for my wrists. It's just nice that the Mac offers a choice.

thanks for reading,

david m.
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It's just nice that the Mac offers a choice.

You sound like Mac finally has caught up with the rest of the modern OSes. happy

Notice that the Windows user can?t imagine the idea of dragging something over to Desktop. Windows users don?t interact the same way with the graphical interface and can?t grok the fundamental difference between Mac and Windows implementations. To a Windows user, cut and paste are the ?natural? functions, not drag and drop.

Really? This is the old OS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTKpNk3uHos

Have you ever seen selections dragged from a browser into OneNote? Here is a demo.

The UI for merging folders is quite nice in Windows 7. It works for both Copy/Paste and Drag and Drop.

There are also useful little gems that make life easier. Like dragging a file (or files, or directories) onto a shortcut. Drag and drop works with the console and shortcuts to batch files and cmd.exe. It works with applications pinned to the task bar.

Yet sometimes Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, Alt+Tab (or Ctrl+Tab) and finally Ctrl+V is faster than mousing around.
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@davidmorgenstern

David, you seem to be confused on several points. Of course Windows supports drag and drop of text, files, folders, you name it, and Windows users do this all the time, so sentences such as "Notice that the Windows user can?t imagine the idea of dragging something over to Desktop." display a complete lack of awareness of Windows user behavior (not to mention articles).

We really enter the reality distortion field with statements like the above though: "It's just nice that the Mac offers a choice." Remember, the article is about the fact that you can't cut and paste files or folders in the Mac, which is true, so you have no choice but to drag and drop. It's Windows that offers you the choice, David. In Windows, you can move a file, folder or combination of files or folders, using any of the following methods:

1) Drag and drop between different open folder windows. If both folders are visible, this works exactly like the Mac, of course, including holding a key down while dragging to toggle between moving or copying. If, however, the destination folder is not visible because it's hidden behind the folder you're dragging from, there's no need to waste time arranging them first like the Mac requires - just start dragging, and then ALT + TAB to the folder window you want, and drop. You can't do this in the Mac, and it's a real drag (sorry).

2) Drag to the hierarchical folder tree in the left side of the folder window and drop onto the destination folder. Like Mac's spring-loaded folders, you can navigate to any sub-folder by pausing over the parent folder for a second while dragging - the folder will automatically expand to reveal the folders within it, at which point you repeat the action, etc. until you've reached the destination folder. Then drop.

3) Select any combination of files or folders with the mouse or keyboard, and then select "Cut" from the "Edit" menu. Switch or navigate to the destination folder, and select "Edit" menu > "Paste".

4) Right-click the file/folder/group you want to move, and click "Cut" from the context menu. Switch or navigate to the destination folder, right-click on any empty area inside it, and select "Paste" from the context menu.

5) Select any combination of files or folders (which you can do with either the mouse or keyboard), hit CTRL + X on your keyboard, switch or navigate to the destination folder, and hit CTRL + V.

And by the way, if you make a mistake at any point, undoing the mistake is as simple as hitting CTRL + Z on your keyboard, or right-clicking any empty space in any folder or the Desktop and choosing "Undo...". You can "undo" multiple steps in your file operations history this way, and again, the Mac doesn't have this. Everything I've described here has been available since Windows 95.

The Mac's only got drag and drop, and while, being a feature geek, I think the Mac's spring-loaded folders feature is cool, it doesn't get the job done when you're managing large numbers of files - it just gets in the way. My litmus test for the usability of any feature is my Mom, and she HATES spring-loaded folders - "I don't like video games" was her remark when I showed her how to do it. Whenever I have to clean up a lot of files or folders on my Mac, I often fire up VMWare and manage the files on my Mac hard drive using Windows Explorer - the Mac Finder is waaaay past due for an overhaul.
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@Droid101 : You are absolutely right... Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V is a wayyyy much fast ... And this is the goal of keyboard shortcut ... And I am not a fanatic of keyboard shortcuts ... This article is the most stupid article I read ...
@EricDeBerg Coming from Windows to OS X, I don't know how I used keyboard shortcuts in Windows. Sure, I got used to the CTRL key, but now using OS X, CMD is much better placed. To me, placement matters. In Windows, I found myself with a sore pinky after a short time, from using it to press CTRL. CMD is placed on a Mac keyboard perfectly, so that I can use my thumb. It just feels better, from a users' perspective.

To me, if we're going to do the whole Graphical vs. Keyboard, you need to compare apples to apples. I think the Mac keyboard is better suited for key commands, but also offers users an extremely easy way of manipulating their documents/web pages/messages and such with true drag-and-drop to their directory of choice.

For what it's worth, this article may be too advanced for you, and you clearly like ellipses a bit much. For what it's worth, Windows makes you learn such obscure ALT key combinations - my last name is Troj?. You have no idea how much easier that is in OS X. For the accented e, on Windows, I found ALT+1+3+0 by absolute accident. On OS X, they offer a real-time keyboard character viewer that shows you the result of holding Shift, Option, ad Option+Shift; a must for new users. Back to my point, on OS X, to make the accented e, it makes perfect sense. Option+e, (to produce the accented character, which is places above the next character typed) then e. [Option+e, e] makes so much more sense to me than some outlandish ALT command.

Oh, and just for salt in the wound, (you Windows people will see a small hollow box, sorry.) My favorite key command in OS X is Option+Shift+k. The result? ?
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@Ktroje, what accent ? There are at least 5 types.

The standard ones are:
For an ? it's right alt + e
For an ? it's right alt + a
The same key combo is used for the rest.

Why do you think you have to use the num codes?

To get the others I'll launch Character Map by pressing the Windows Start Key, type 'char' and press enter. That process takes me about 2 seconds while holding my 3 month old baby.

This article sounds like another Mac bandwagon hopper trying to convince their self it was a good idea to switch.

BTW, I use Linux, FreeBSD, Windows and I also have a Mac Mini at my disposal. I find using keyboard shortcuts the quickest and easiest in all scenarios. As others have stated, anyone caught doing things the slower way doesn't last long round here.
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@EricDeBerg I'm not convinced that "faster" is even relevant. The cut-paste analogy has been used in just about every UI I ever used, from old DOS apps through Windows, Linux and even OSX uses it when dealing with text.

Every other modern UI (that I know of) extends that same analogy to files and folders, except OSX. At that point it's just a bit stupid. I heard this defended it as "It's un-intuitive to cut and paste a file if the file doesn't get removed from the source location on the cut, but if it did, then what happens if you don't paste". Well, you do what every other OS does, you leave the file in place until the paste operation is complete. If you really have an issue with the cut-paste paradigm, change the feakin' terminology; make it mark/move or grab/put or who-gives-a-toss just make it work consistent with your own UI, let alone every other OS.

While where on it. Home/End keys should move your cursor to the beginning and end of the line when inside a text control. This should be consistent. I'm sick of using OSX apps where these keys don't do this and instead I have to "MAC+SHIFT+left/right" this is stupid. Consistency within your own UI is essential. Matching the functionality of every other UI that also uses a keyboard, pretty important too.
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@Rational used to be, you're saying.. right? I have never once had to change my path to get printing to work. Not even on windows 3.1.
there are STILL things that you need drivers for, even on a mac. not EVERY printer is available in the OS, and not every driver that's inherent in the OS is the newest driver either. That's the thing that bugs me about both mac and PC users. using what you're given. It's not too tough to understand why using a plate to eat off of instead of your hand, and equivocally, using newer drivers for things makes them better (usually)

@lefty.crupps it's true.. people want the world to change to their wants, not the other way around. that's why remote controls were invented, and many other "conveniences"

I"ve found that the biggest problem with a "turnkey" system like macs is it keeps users ignorant about those very inner workings. I just today had to tell a macbook user (yes, i don't know HOW it would be done on today's unibody machines!) to remove her battery and reboot the machine, which worked, thank you. This is an uncommon experience, for both Macs and PCs, but still, since when is the concept of a hard reboot such a tough thing to conceive? Granted this very ignorance is what keeps me in IT, but i'd almost rather teach myself out of a job if it would allow a certain amount of self-reliance rather than running around in circles screaming "my mac is broken" until someone pats them on the back and shows them the way.
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@Droid101

Exactly right! Windows maintains this as legacy from the DOS days and I am dang glad they do. I would be lost without it. Shortcuts are so much easier, faster, and puts less strain on the wrist (carpel tunnel) than using a mouse driven system. Just my 2 cents
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That's great that drag-and-drop on the Mac doesn't require the use of the clipboard, but I see one big downfall over cut-and-paste - cut (or copy) once, paste multiple times. I'm not very familiar with OS X, so maybe the same functionality exists; but based on your examples in the article, it does not seem as such. I'd be at a loss, I use that functionality all the time - in Windows and Linux.
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@NetAdmin1178 Once you drag it to the desktop you can right click (just like a PC) copy and paste away to your hearts content. Plenty of keyboard shortcuts too. Instead of 'control+c'&'control+v' its 'command'&'command+v'. To prove it, that's how I just did this post. It's not just "drag and drop" as the the article says. Right clicking is available and has all the shortcuts and contextual menus that Windows has.
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@I12BPhil I think you didn't understand his/her question right. He/she said *pasting* multiple times. This is perfectly possible.

I want to denote that cutting and copying multiple times without replacing old data in the temporal clipboard isn't possible on either Mac, Windows or standard and clean distributions of Linux. There are a lot of tools that can add this functionality. Or you could use the simple function that you just marked down: using the Finder.

I'm proud the Mac OS X's the only (popular) operating system that has this state saving functionality into his core foundation. Even more interesting for developers: drag and drop is embedded in the universal core of the system and so it's universal across every Cocoa and Carbon application in the system. Actually, the Mac is extremely "application-universal-friendly". :-D
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@ctxppc
> I want to denote that cutting and copying multiple times
> without replacing old data in the temporal clipboard
> isn't possible... on... standard and clean distributions
> of Linux
Um, KDE's Klipper can do it fine.
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Yeah,
evilkillerwhale@... 30th Jun 2010
@I12BPhil

And drag and drop has been in Windows since 3.1
The newer versions (Vista on) allow almost all of the same drag and drop abilities Mac does. I've never seen anyone drag and drop to the desktop, but that idea sounds like a way to further clutter my desktop, which seems crazy. My desk in my office is cluttered because I don't have storage space. My desk on my PC doesn't need to be cluttered because I have huge amounts of storage space.
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@NetAdmin1178 Pasting multiple times is possible, like in other OSes. You cut or copy one time and you paste the same thing as many times as you want.
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@NetAdmin1178
It IS a function within OS X ... as it has been in each Mac OS version I've used sine I got a Mac Plus in 1988.
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It's there if you want it.
Ktroje 30th Jun 2010
@NetAdmin1178 Drag-and-drop is just a graphical workaround for novice computer users. I still use CMD+C and CMD+V; and it works the same way in OS X. Copy this once? (CMD+C) Apple Inc. And paste it with CMD+V however many times you'd like.

Apple Inc.
Apple Inc.
Apple Inc.

That, and there are some wonderful clipboard managers that log your cuts/copies for you, should you require multiple uses of multiple copies. Clipmenu is free and simply wonderful, but I got Clips (normally 20 euros - the developer's company isn't called "Conceited Software" for nothing) as part of a $20 10-App MacHeist nanoBundle.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
lelandhendrix@... 30th Jun 2010
@NetAdmin1178 It does exist in Mac OS.

I think what the author was going on about was the UI making a translation of content between the two windows: Text dragged from a window to the desktop and creating container for the data on the desktop would eliminate the step needed to create a new typing area in which to past the copied-and-not-dragged text.
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Just out of curiosity, who decided that it was "old, bad cut-and-paste Windows habits." There is nothing wrong with people prefering one method to the other. As soon as you decide that one method is "wrong" you've blinded yourself to alternatives.
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No_Ax_to_Grind 29th Jun 2010
@RonCri

Spot on.
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@RonCri You're partially right, but imagine the same scenario on the two OSes. You need to copy some text from the web and move it to a text editor.

Microsoft Windows and its method:
1. Select the wanted text by dragging the selection with the mouse (since there's no other method for that).
2. Go to the menu item to copy it or switch to your keyboard.
3. Switch to the destination window by using the mouse or by (multiple times) tapping the Tab button.
4. Select the destination position (if necessary) by using the keyboard or mouse.
5. Go to the menu item to paste it or use your keyboard.

Mac OS X and its method:
1. Select the wanted text by dragging the selection with the mouse (since there's no other method for that).
2. Drag your mouse to the destination window, eventually through Spaces and/or Expos?, to the destination position.

On Windows, you probably would use the keyboard. Switching requires some time, and time is money in the business world. It also results in some hand strain, eventually. You also need to move your eyes between the keyboard, mouse and screen, unless you're an expert and you know your computer and its hardware for years. You also need 5 steps to do this whole procedure.

On the Mac, you use only the mouse while keeping your eyes on the screen. You have only 2 steps to do this whole thing.

P.S.: Sometimes copying and pasting still is necessary or faster, it depends on the situation. That's why Xerox invented it and Apple (yes, Apple themselves) liked it a lot, among with the whole GUI concepts! Microsoft thought it was fantastic and took it over to Windows (of course, without permission of Apple). Cut, copy and paste will probably never die because even humans do this (we call it "remembering" and "jotting," like remembering a telephone number to then jot it down). The Mac still supports this functionality and iOS uses it as the only resort to move data around applications.

wink
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For the sake of completeness:
Yagotta B. Kidding 29th Jun 2010
@ctxppc:

Microsoft Windows and its method:

...

Mac OS X and its method:

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And then there's the old fashioned X11 method:
1. Select the wanted text by dragging the selection with the mouse (since there's no other method for that).
2. Navigate to the destination by any of the ways you might wish, including opening new Web sites etc.
3. Middle click to paste at the mouse location.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
Bob in upstate NY 29th Jun 2010
@ctxppc "1. Select the wanted text by dragging the selection with the mouse (since there's no other method for that)."

Try triple-click with the touchpad (i.e. mouse). My hand never left the keyboard, and they selected the entire paragraph. I use the technique frequently in multiple apps on multiple platforms. Also, Cmd-Sh-right arrow and other keyboard shortcuts do similer specific selections.
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yes, if only Bear Sterns, Lehman, AIG...if only they'd have converted to the Mac way of cut-n-paste, those financial giants will still be alive and thriving today
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
ItsTheBottomLine 29th Jun 2010
@ctxppc So let me get this straight. If I use a Windows machine I have to look at the keyboard to drag something around the screen "you use only the mouse while keeping your eyes on the screen. You have only 2 steps to do this whole thing." Uh-Huh but If I use a Mac because it's a Mac I can drag it around and watch the screen w/o having to look at the keyboard. OK Yeah that makes a he'll of a lot of sense - NOT!. Your directions are just flat out silly. Options - just like the Mac - which has keyboard shortcuts as well.

Here is how I use Windows:
1- Highlight the text - A: Drag Mouse B: Use keybaord
2 - Drag higlight to destination - DONE! OR I can press Ctrl-C Click on the destination windows and CTRL-V
WOW - Look TWO STEPS!
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OR . . . .
JLHenry 29th Jun 2010
@ctxppc

Once you select the text to be copied, right-click on it, which brings up a menu with commands you can use for that selected item, copy (or cut), then go to the destination window, left click where you want to put it, then right-click and select paste.

About the same as the MAC method, really. The only thing you can't do (in XP, at least, I'll check 7 tonight when I get home), is paste it directly to the desktop.
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@ctxppc "Mac OS X and its method:
1. Select the wanted text by dragging the selection with the mouse (since there's no other method for that)." Actually there is another method. You can hold the Shift and Command keys down and hit the arrow key and text will be selected. I'm just sayin'
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@Itsthebottomline, JLH, etc.

You are missing the point. Or purposely glossing over it. On Windows, in order to select the destination, it is NOT, as your simplified guide suggests, one step. Selecting the destination window is a series of keyboard and/or mouse procedures.
Not so on OSX. It IS just one step (well, one and a half, perhaps, depending on how you count.) Drag selection and hit F9, F10, or drag selection to expose All Windows or Application Windows hot corner, and continue dragging until the cursor is over the appropriate window. Release F9 or wait, release mouse. Done.
The closest MS has to this is Flip 3D, which is not even in the same league.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
ItsTheBottomLine 29th Jun 2010
@RonCri AMEN! "There is nothing wrong with people prefering one method to the other." There is if your article hit quota is low.
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RE: Mac vs. Windows: The cut-n'-paste divide
lelandhendrix@... 30th Jun 2010
@ItsTheBottomLine Hahaha! I wonder if everyone got that one.
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Habits are wrong
Richard Flude 29th Jun 2010
when you move to a different OS and expect it to function in the same way.

Different OSes perform functions differently. Drag-and-drop is a huge UI function on Macs, largely missing on windows.

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