MacBook Air Diary-Day 13: Installing 10.5.2

MacBook Air Diary-Day 13: Installing 10.5.2

Summary: I generally wait at least 72 hours before installing any operating system updates from Apple but yesterday's announcement of 10.5.

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I generally wait at least 72 hours before installing any operating system updates from Apple but yesterday's announcement of 10.5.2 made me throw caution to the wind. I figured that I had a solid backup (as Apple recommends) and I wanted to see if the new update from Cupertino would play nice with the MacBook Air.

Mac OS 10.5.2 Update available from Apple

The Mac OS 10.5.2 Update weighs in at a hefty 341MB and is available via Software Update. A 10.5.2 Combo update (343MB) is available as a standalone download that will update both 10.5.0 and 10.5.1 and is convenient for IT folk and people that may be updating multiple Macs. (I don't have any HP printers so I skipped the 84MB driver update.) I highly recommend running Disk Utility > Repair Disk Permissions on your hard drive before installing the 10.5.2 Update. If the repair find lots of bad permissions on the first go around, run it again. Apple has posted several important tips in knowledge base Article 307109 that should be heeded before installing 10.5.2:

  • It is recommended that you back up your system prior to installing any updates.
  • The installation process should not be interrupted, even if the progress bar remains unchanged for several minutes. If a power outage or other interruption occurs during installation, use the standalone installer (see below) from Apple Support Downloads to update.
  • You may experience unexpected results if you have third-party system software modifications installed, or if you've modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)
  • If issues occur during installation--for example, if Software Update quits unexpectedly--please see this article.

Mac OS 10.5.2 Update available from Apple

The software update downloaded fairly quickly over a standard cable connection but takes a decent amount of time to complete. You have to "restart and install" and your Mac will restart between one and two more times before the process completes.

Be patient. The 10.5.2 update took the better part of an hour to install on my MacBook Air. Keep the AC adapter plugged in and don't panic if there are long periods of time where nothing seems to be happening. Don't interrupt the procedure for any reason (for example by force quitting or powering down) as doing so can render your drive useless and lead to data loss.

Mac OS 10.5.2 Update installed

Installing the 10.5.2 update on my MBA was fairly painless – other than the multiple reboots and long waits which will make any Mac user bite their nails after a while. Clicking on the software version number in the "About This Mac" dialog box reveals a build number of 9C31, which is the build that was seeded to developers on 06 February 2008. Clicking on it again displays your motherboard serial number.

Advice for the impatient: After you've clicked Ok and Agree buttons the requisite amount of times, go grab a coffee, walk the dog or use one of your other Macs for a while. Nothing is worse than watching grass grow.

Mac OS 10.5.2 Update available from Apple

After successfully installing the 10.5.2 update on my MBA I ran Software Update again (just an old habit) and to my surprise, there was an almost 50MB "Leopard Graphics Update" waiting to be installed. Little is mentioned in the knowledge base article about the Leopard Graphics Update other than: "Leopard Graphics Update is recommended for all users and improves the stability and compatibility of your Mac. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2."

Ok, guess I'd better install that one too...

Mac OS 10.5.2 Update available from Apple

No noticeable changes after installing the LGA, but hey, what the heck.

After the jump, some 10.5.2 fixes and a poll...

Here are some items that I cherry picked from the list of fixes and features in 10.5.2. The number after the feature is the number of fixes. This is only a subset.

  • Active Directory - 1
  • AirPort - 3
  • Back to my Mac - 1 - Adds support for more third-party routers, as detailed in this article.
  • Dashboard - 2
  • Dock - 2 - Updates Stacks with a List view option, a Folder view option, and an updated background for Grid view.
  • Desktop - 2 - Addresses legibility issues with the menu bar with an option to turn off transparency in Desktop & Screen Saver preferences. - Adjusts menus to be slightly-less translucent overall.
  • iCal - 4 - Improves iCal so that it accurately reflects responses to recurring meetings.
  • iChat - 8 - Addresses an issue with simultaneously-logged in accounts in which iChat sounds generated from one account might be heard in another account.
  • iSync - 1 - Adds support for Samsung D600E and D900i phones.
  • Finder - 8 - Addresses an issue in which Finder could unexpectedly quit when displaying folder contents in Column view.
  • Mail - 15 - Addresses an issue with Message menu's Mark > As Read choice.
  • Networking - 1 - Addresses a hanging issue that may occur when connecting to an AFP network volume.
  • Parental Controls - 6 - Improves stability when opening the Parental Controls System Preferences pane.
  • Preview - 3 - Improves stability when scrolling through a PDF document.
  • Printing - 5 - Adds support for certain printers connected to the USB port of an AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express base station.
  • RAW Image - 1 - Adds RAW image support for several cameras, as detailed in this article.
  • Safari - 1 - Addresses issues with Safari reliably resolving certain domains.
  • Login and Setup Assistant - 2 - Addresses an issue in which Setup Assistant could unexpectedly appear each time Mac OS X 10.5 starts up.
  • System - 2 - The computer will now shut down if an automatic disk repair does not succeed during startup.
  • Time Machine - 5 - Adds a menu bar option for accessing Time Machine features (the menu extra can be enabled in Time Machine preferences).
  • Other - 4

What has your experience been with the 10.5.2 update?

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  • 10.5.2 on MBA

    Mine did not take that long to install. however... boot up time increased from 42 sec to 2 min and 20 sec. tried it 4-5 times, no change.
    did permission repair, that took it down to 1 min 30 sec. next boot up was 1 min 10 sec. 3rd boot up was 55 sec. another round of permission repair did not change it. final boot up time 55 sec.
    nbrxifzhcqbz@...
    • How is the average user supposed to know this?

      [i]did permission repair, that took it down to 1 min 30 sec[/i]

      Does the update say anything like:
      [i]if you experience increased boot times, please click "this" button to repair your permissions[/i] ?

      I'm glad that you know about this but I suspect a lot of people wouldn't think: hmm, my boot times are long, maybe I should repair my permissions?

      Come to think of it, why do your permissions get so corrupted? I've never had corrupted permissions on any of my Linux or Windows boxes. Is this due to some deficiency in HFS+? Odd.
      NonZealot
      • how is the average user supposed to know anything?

        weird issues like this come up on all OSs. usually, the average user will call their techie friend and say, "hey, my computer is doing this weird thing. any ideas?"
        lostarchitect
        • Thank you!

          [i]weird issues like this come up on all OSs[/i]

          Seems kind of silly then when Mac people respond to postings about Windows solutions with: [i]how is the average user supposed to know that?[/i]

          I just love it when a good spoof post gets the exact response I was eliciting. :)
          NonZealot
          • well, i never respond that way.

            i think it's very clear that every OS will have issues at least occasionally.
            lostarchitect
      • Come to think of it..

        since you've never used OS X, nor any Mac in at least 7 years, how can you have a
        valid opinion, one way or the other?
        msalzberg
  • Sounds like this is FAR better than Vista SP1!!

    Those guys over in Windows land have to download a few hundred MB patch, the install takes the better part of an hour, and they have to reboot multiple times. Apple would never put any of its users through something as [b]ridiculous[/b] as that!

    [i]The Mac OS 10.5.2 Update weighs in at a hefty 341MB and is available via Software Update.
    ...
    The 10.5.2 update took the better part of an hour to install
    ...
    You have to ???restart and install??? and your Mac will restart between one and two more times before the process completes.
    ...
    After successfully installing the 10.5.2 update on my MBA I ran Software Update again (just an old habit) and to my surprise, there was an almost 50GB ???Leopard Graphics Update??? waiting to be installed.[/i]

    Hmm, wait a second, why it doesn't seem to be that different after all!! Why then were Mac people all over the Vista SP1 stories talking about how multi hundred MB patches, hour long upgrades, and multiple reboots were such a bad thing and that we should all switch to Macs? :)
    NonZealot
    • No you should stay with Windows my friend...:P

      Pagan jim
      James Quinn
    • They're your people.

      [i]Why then were Mac people all over the Vista SP1 stories talking about how multi hundred MB patches, hour long upgrades, and multiple reboots were such a bad thing and that we should all switch to Macs? :)[/i]

      I guess the same reason why you show up on every Mac related story with your own taunting and trolling. You would be the man to ask.
      Tigertank
      • I've answered this question a million times

        I'm a spoof of you. It sure seems to annoy you when I copy your posts but apply them to an Apple story. Gee, wonder why that is? :)
        NonZealot
        • Well at least your convenient.

          Your always talking about phantom Mac users you talk to on other stories and websites and then accuse everyone on the current thread of their supposed behavior.
          However, It's much easy for us because one need not bring up the trolls encountered in blogs hither and yon, because your always right here in person. :)
          Tigertank
        • If you have to tell people that you're a spoof...

          it's obvious you're not doing it very well.

          What [b]is[/b] obvious is that you're a troll, and like the attention you get by acting
          like a fool.
          msalzberg
    • not the same for everyone...

      not sure how his update was 341mb, when mine was only 170mb, and barely took 20
      minutes, but the separate restart was for a driver update, noting to do with the OS
      update.. that was not available before 10.5.2 was done (and was not required to get to
      10.5.2). I'm sure you like to twist anything to look bad for Apple, you always do... but
      your really reaching far with this one... oh hey wait you always do... never mind.
      doh123
      • I'll second that

        Mine too was only 170mb, and took about 20 min. Had no permissions problems. Am typing on it right now.
        jorjitop
        • Selective?

          I'm still on X.4, but it sounds like you may have already had some update on your system that his system did not have installed yet, so you didn't need all of the same files he did. Chances are Apple put several different packages out there and Software Update picks the one most appropriate to your system depending on what you have installed already.
          fde101
    • My Experience.

      The 341 meg file took just on 15 minutes to download and install. Everything fired
      back up and it was plain sailing. I wonder if the time differences that people are
      experiencing have something to do with internet speed.

      BTW, I downloaded the combo install from the Apple site instead of using the
      software update facility. I'm not sure if this made a difference to the time or not. Now,
      before someone says "how will an average user know how to do this?" I am an
      average everyday user. I read things.
      A Grain of Salt
      • Average user?

        [i]I am an average everyday user. I read things.[i]

        How should we define "average", I wonder? My definition of "average" is "button pusher". That is, someone who has been sold the lie that a computer is an appliance like a toaster or TV, and therefore needs little, in any, maintenance. "Average" users, by my definition, never "read" anything about their computer, at least not deliberately. So, I was say that you are NOT an average user, but an "intermediate" user. I would agree with the initial postulation that "average" users wouldn't have any idea any repairing permissions, and simply do the updates (sometimes!) and accept whatever condition the Mac ends up in (in terms of speed and stability). The same goes for "average" Windows users.

        Heck, lets face it people: MOST computer users are "average" - they just want to press a few buttons, wiggle their mouse about the screen, play a few games (solitaire, anyone... :)), send e-mails, then go do something more meaningful (in their view) that has nothing to do with computers. It's only those of us who use computers at "work", then come home and "tinker" with our computer for a few hours afterwards (and not be "sick of the sight of a computer") that are NOT average. WE are the ones who know about permission repairing, hard drive defrags, having enough RAM to get the best out of our computer etc, not the "average" users.

        Anyway, enough said.
        IslandBoy_77
  • And How Lagre Is Your Hard Drive???

    After a few more large patches like this one...your MBA's wimpy 80GB HD is going to run out of space for apps & files....and if you ponied up the extra $1k for the SSD...happy patching folks! :-)
    IT_Guy_z
    • I don't think it works that way....

      Say an upgrade/patch is 341mb that does not mean it adds 341mb to the size of the
      over all system. Does a patch not replce faulty or buggy software with better but does
      not simply add to it?

      Pagan jim
      James Quinn
      • "I don't think it works that way.... "

        ...and you would wrong.

        The bits & bytes have to go somewhere. Maybe not all of them...but over time the hard drive WILL get filled up with updates.

        I just updated my G4 iMac with 140MB of downloads, and before the download & install Finder was showing 91.7GB of space...after the install it shows 91.5.

        Sorry sport...it DOES work that way.
        IT_Guy_z