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Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?

By | December 6, 2010, 11:04am PST

Summary: The industry statisticians are prepping their year-end totals. But the introduction of Apple’s iPad brings some ambiguity into the previously finely-drawn categories. Where do they put the iPad: Mobile PC or mobile computing device?

The industry statisticians are prepping their year-end totals. But the introduction of Apple’s iPad brings some ambiguity into the previously finely-drawn categories. Where do they put the iPad: Mobile PC or mobile computing device?

The analyst company DisplaySearch puts the iPad in the PC category with its Monday release of the Quarterly Mobile PC Shipment and Forecast Report. With this calculation, Apple now has a Number 3 position worldwide in the category and ranks Number 1 in North America.

DisplaySearch calls this the “iPad Effect.” Without the iPad, Apple’s category share would be 4.8 percent, giving it a worldwide 8th place ranking, it said.

Whether one counts the iPad in the mobile PC mix or not, these rankings are great for Apple. It’s difficult to budge shares of the worldwide PC market, and with the refresh cycle happening in the enterprise we would expect Apple’s share to be toward the bottom of the list. Still, almost 5 percent of mobile computers sold in the third quarter were Mac OS X models.

HP is in first place with an 17.3 percent market share, edging out Acer with a 16.5 percent share.

DisplaySearch analysts questioned the acceptance of the iPad in Asian segments, such as Japan and China.

“A lack of competitive tablet PC products from other brands continues to drive Apple’s market share in the mobile PC segment. As the iPad continues its worldwide rollout, one developed region where the acceptance of the iPad has been weak is Japan, however. Questions of local language content and language-specific apps have slowed acceptance in this tech savvy region,” noted Chris Connery, Vice President of Large Format Displays at DisplaySearch. “As other players come to market with tablet PCs it will be interesting to see if they can move beyond the Western-centric nature of Apple’s product and develop an infrastructure to support local needs, especially with the growth of consumer spending in China on personal computing devices.”

However, I note the results for notebooks and for the Asian markets provided by Apple for the September quarter (for Apple it’s the fiscal Q4).

We experienced strong double-digit growth in both Mac desktop and portable categories led by very strong sales of iMac which was updated in July and the continued popularity of the MacBook Pro and MacBook. Mac growth was strong in each of our geographic segments, led by Asia-Pacific at 56 percent year-over-year and Japan at 49 percent.

Whether or not the Asian market is satisfied by the iPad, North American enterprise adoption is only ramping up. The results of quals are winding up now and the actual purchases will be coming in the next calendar year, perhaps bringing further growth in the quarter after the holiday sales.

Apple is bringing on SMB and enterprise sales forces. In the September quarter analyst call, Tim Cook said that he had “never seen an adoption like this in my life in enterprise.”

The iPad in business only starting to take off.

Should iPads be counted as mobile PCs? It’s a tough call. Mobility used to be easier: it uses a battery and you can carry it on an airplane. Now, there are many subcategories, each with a different footprint, price range and hardware/software capability.

In addition, there is blurring of the lines between categories. For example, there are the hybrid tablets that can be used as a tablet but also come with an integrated keyboard. At the same time, users can easily add a keyboard to an iPad.

Should the dividing line be the OS? The iPad uses a mobile version of OS X called by Apple iOS. Some tablets and netbooks run ordinary versions of their respective OS. Others use a mobile flavor.

My suggestion is to divide up the mobility market by capability:

Workhorse: A machine that let users easily edit and encode video, or other desktop functions. Both of Apple’s notebooks fall in this category.

Netbook/Tablets: Everything else. Small notebook-style machines that support primary computing functions.

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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 11th Oct
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Toy
dunraven 6th Dec 2010
Right there with Legos and Fisher Price.
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Which is why Fortune 500
zkiwi 6th Dec 2010
Companies are buying them in droves. Of course they got where they are by spending up big on toys, or not.
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I somewhat concur, but...
nix_hed 6th Dec 2010
@dunraven the power of the iPad is the fact that since it is a very lightweight system (in terms of size and power consumption), it's able to do a lot for a $500 device. When you look at similarly-priced competing devices (Galaxy Tab is too small, Windows 7 devices are underpowered anywhere close to the same price point), the iPad looks really attractive. Even smaller, less-expensive Android-powered devices come up short against the iPad when it comes down to it (you can look at this site and others for reviews).

So while the iPad may still be in it's "Toy" phase, it's becoming more and more useful to more and more people every single day.
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AGREED!
oncall 6th Dec 2010
@dunraven

At least my wife thinks so, but she says that about every electronic gadget I buy including my computer and laptop. I know I occasionally use them for actual work related activities, but they are all fun toys happy
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It doesn't really matter. Perhaps the age of the primary interface is the metric. So desktops are fixed OS, laptops are fixed OS with mobile features, Phones are phone OS with apps on top, iPads are Mobile OS with apps on top, etc...

Frankly, aside from want to score keep for bragging rights, what's the point?
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Who cares?
NonZealot 6th Dec 2010
I've noticed that it isn't enough for Apple zealots to like their Apple products, it is imperative that their Apple product be compared to other devices. Does Apple being first, fourth, or eighth make any difference in the usefulness of your product?

Be happy with what you have and let others be happy with what they have. Your immaturity gets tiring.
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Actually no....
James Quinn 6th Dec 2010
@NonZealot
What often brings me to respond is well people like yourself. Some of your claims or the claims of similar folk are often like the one above "Toy" for instance. Now I don't mind if you or the person above thinks of the iPad as a Toy and hence nor for him/her.. But he/she did not specify that to him/her it was a toy he/she just stated it to be a toy. Then there was your famous rant about the iPhone when it first came out. You kept saying it wasn't even an actual smart phone. Now to you and your needs/wants it very well might not have made the muster as an actual smart phone OK I get that but to say that the iPhone even the original was NOT a smart phone was well foolish and wrong cause to many it was. It's not that you don't have the right to your opinion but your or the posters above does not make it fact for anyone but you. All you need do is phrase your responses better but then that would not be nearly as much fun and way to reasonable:P

Pagan jim
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Oh, it's a toy, alright...
trickytom3 6th Dec 2010
@James Quinn

Get real. Any competent tech who considers the iPad to be powerful enough to be considered a PC is insane.

It's toy...it's a fun toy, and it has its uses, but it's a toy, nonetheless. The iPad simply wasn't designed to handle serious business applications.

Look, I like the iPad, but I'm not delusional enough to believe that its anything more than a content-consumption device. Sure, it has lots of lightweight apps that let you do lots of lightweight tasks, but it simply isn't in the same performance class as a PC.

Stop trying to make this thing something that it isn't. You want a PC-class device; buy a laptop.
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One last time .. the iPad is not a toy.
kenosha77a 6th Dec 2010
@trickytom3

"Toys" can not be used for the following tasks. From a recent article from americanconsumernews.com.

"...While some hospitals are eying the iPad as a way of going paperless with patient records, Georgetown University is already putting them directly in the operating room and into the hands of its surgeons. Offering real-time access to records and images of patients while inside the operating room, iPads have become "as essential as a scalpel" for surgeons while eliminating guesswork for those taking care of multiple patients each day."

In your eyes, perhaps Trickytom3, the iPad is a toy. But that view is increasingly becoming a singular insight into the reality of the situation.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
cyberslammer2 6th Dec 2010
@trickytom3 Look who's returned, the resident village idiot, Trickytom3! Gee, can't take the truth can you?

I suppose being the all-powerful CIO at a one-room school affords you the luxury to be the expert on the iPad, since you probably have never used one.
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@James Quinn

In the end Jim, you should just use one for a bit. I'm pretty sure it's a toy. I can't run my web apps on it because it doesn't do Flash and it's HTML 5 is broken (no autoplay). The WiFi was horrible, slowing for no apparent reason and dropping out and after we finished testing it, I really couldn't think of a reason I wanted to carry this brick around. I'm also unconvinced about games - most of the games I enjoy let me see the screen without having to view it through my hand.

Now the Kinect I got last night is used as a toy, but it certainly has a lot more potential than the iPad.

Oh and being a toy doesn't stop you doing some work on it, but it's still a toy and an expensive one at that.
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@trickytom: I totally agree
NonZealot 6th Dec 2010
Any competent tech who considers the iPad to be powerful enough to be considered a PC is insane.

I really like my iPhone but it isn't a PC nor does it replace a PC. An iPad is nothing more than an oversized iPod Touch and anyone who says that it replaces a PC is just an idiot. Even more hilarious is that they ignore the fact that you need a PC in order to use an iPad!!!
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
DeusXMachina Updated - 7th Dec 2010
@trickytom (number 3, since I assume your other accounts are banned)
Being that your previous posts make it clear that you are not a competent tech, You are not really in a position to speak.
As to handling "serious business applications" who says. That would all depend on the application, now wouldn't it. Some VERY serious businesses have applications for iPad form-factors that do not require heavy horsepower. As you claiming that that makes them not serious? Are you that dense?
Please explain how this device is NOT a serious business appliance, but the dumb terminals UPS drivers use are. Please explain why iPads are not, but the x386 luggables from Compaq may years ago were.

@tonymcs

You're actually going to claim that not having Flash makes it a toy? You're kidding right?!? In what way is Flash the metric for business utilization?
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@NonZealot
Hey,NZ. I'm sure the Apple Zealots are just fine with granting other non Apple product users their happiness .. especially at this time of the year when holiday good cheer fills the frigid northern climes.

I suspect any over zealous statements that you have encountered recently stem from a shared history of having been told market share statistics were the equivalent of platform usefulness or relevancy. Now that Apple market share statistics indicate a growing adoption of their "beloved" platform, they are being told that market share doesn't matter anymore or that's it no big deal.

Personally, I think I would just cut those zealots some slack on this issue. "Tis the season for good cheer after all".
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your immaturity gets tiring
buddhistMonkey Updated - 6th Dec 2010
@Zealot ((( "I've noticed that it isn't enough for Apple zealots to like their Apple products, it is imperative that their Apple product be compared to other devices." )))

I've noticed that you do the exact same thing. In a recent Zdnet article which mentioned the iPad, you chimed in that "Kinect is a bigger hit than iPad. For all of you wooing over iPad's success and how that proves it can't be overhyped, suck on this..."

http://www.zdnet.com/tb/1-90658?p=3&tag=mantle_skin;content

Cue the double standards.
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@buddhistMonkey
It annoyed the crap out of the Apple zealots who can't stand to have their own logic shoved back in their faces. Did you see the responses to my post? happy
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Funny how that works, huh NonZ...
SonofaSailor 6th Dec 2010
@NonZ

when you pull the same **** the apple fanboy idiots do, then all of the sudden it's not cool, and you're "immature"
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@NonZealot

Glad to see you're admitting to posting items merely to annoy others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
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What would Buddha say (WWBS) if he...
godsfault 8th Dec 2010
met up with nonzealot?

Seriously, anyone with the moniker "buddhistMonkey" should be able to come up with an answer.
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@NonZealot

Completely agree. It doesn't matter to me, and you can bet it doesn't matter to Apple as long as this "thing" continues to get rave reviews, sell in the millions, and make a nice profit.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
DeusXMachina Updated - 11th Dec 2010
@NonZealot
Who cares? Well, if you would bother to RTFA you would see that businesses care. A lot. In addition, all those who use the numbers provided by those analysts care. A lot. This fact has NOTHING to do with Apple Zealotry (or are you claiming these metrics are some sort of conspiracy) and eve LESS to do with your biased, anti-Apple zealotry.
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@NonZealot incur so much wrath that I suppose you must derive pleasure from it.

Me, I can take a few slams in a strong argument, but when the slams number in the hundreds, as they do against you in the comments sections, I would seek another outlet for my hostility.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
Mythos7 Updated - 6th Dec 2010
Anything with a 10" screen is certainly not a mobile device. I wouldnt consider a 7" screen a mobile device either. It will really skew the wireless stats is we start lumping iPads and tablets in with mobile phones.
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Well, its certainly good news for Apple.

Don't think ipad belongs in the same category as PC, its functionality is far more limited.

It's basically it's own category and they need to treat it as such. "Tablet"
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
DeusXMachina 7th Dec 2010
@SlithyTove

Um, limited how exactly? Limited how in relation to, say, a PC from 5 years ago. Or were those not PCs either, and we were all just mislead?
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Well it does compute after all....
James Quinn 6th Dec 2010
That and the inclusion of iWorks it does actual "Work". So I guess the answer would be yes.

Pagan jim
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@James Quinn

that creates a circular reference. After all, you do have to hook it up to a Personal Computer, whether Mac, Windows based to initially configure, maintain, transfer. Including the Pads in the PC category, translates to hook your iPad up to another iPad to configure, maintain, transfer.

Is that possible?
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
lelandhendrix@... 7th Dec 2010
@SonofaSailor That's not really true...in a way. Well...

You could say the same about an iPhone. Yet there are thousands of people with iPhones that don't even use a computer.

When you purchase your iPad at an Apple store, they will initialize it and you can walk right out of the store using in and installing/removing apps, whatever you need to do. Just the same way it works with an iPhone.

I see your point, but it doesn't prevent full user functionality.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
DeusXMachina 7th Dec 2010
@SonofaSailor

How many times do you need to be told that this is not true for it to sink in?!? Please explain how downloading an app over Wifi, and using it on an iPad, without ever plugging into a host machine, supports your case.

Please also look at how PCs are initialized prior to shipment. How do you think that OS got on the hard drive in the first place, huh?
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PLEASE...
SonofaSailor 7th Dec 2010
@DeusX

So someone can go through the life of their iPad without ever owning a computer? they can backup/restore their device "over wifi"? not to mention data?

and "how PCs are initialized"??? REALLY? You know those are two completely different animals. Don't act like you don't. I've never had to hook a new PC up to another PC to finish setting it up after purchase Or, since you like to bring it up, at the point of purchase, I've never had to have the Retailer hook it up to their computer to configure before I took it home. Have you? what did they use? a crossover cable?
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
DeusXMachina 8th Dec 2010
@SonofaSailor
"So someone can go through the life of their iPad without ever owning a computer?"

Yes.

"they can backup/restore their device "over wifi"? not to mention data?"

Hooking the device up over WiFi is still hooking the device up, so your distinction is nebulous at best. But more to the point, this is a discussion about classifications. Whether the iPad can sync over WiFi, and whether it needs a PC to sync are all issues of firmware, and have NO bearing on the the central discussion.

"I've never had to hook a new PC up to another PC to finish setting it up after purchase"

Because all that was done for you prior to purchase.
But again, immaterial to the central issue of classification.
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It can't be a computer - where's the floppy drive?
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
lelandhendrix@... 7th Dec 2010
@Monkeypox HAHAHAH! I like it. grin
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@Monkeypox It can't be a computer - where's the punch card reader? Or the bank of reel-to-reel tape drives? It doesn't even need its own air-conditioned floor!
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And why...
Economister 6th Dec 2010
would a classification matter? It only leads to stupid comparisons and fan boy rants.

It is what it is. If it is useful to you, buy it. If not, stay away.

Pointless discussion.
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Exactly right
NonZealot 6th Dec 2010
@Economister
Apple zealots are so petty.
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So are anti-apple zealots
verrick Updated - 6th Dec 2010
@NonZealot Look up the definition of zealot. Let me help - "an excessively zealous person; fanatic."

I read your rants all the time, and I never hear about what you think other than the fact that you hate fanboys... Hmmm? Nothing to brag about?

All devices have their uses in different situations, and I use them all.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
lelandhendrix@... 7th Dec 2010
@NonZealot Just like your first post above, I don't know who you are directing this to...

The author? The market analysts that are trying to figure out the category in which to place the iPad?

Why the vitriol?
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@Economister
It doesn't take that much. And look above: the comments are predominately slams agains the iPad, so as to who is looking for a reason to go off....

Now a trade group, such as DisplaySearch, is interested because their job is to describe accurately the market. Well, no one said taxonomy was easy and I imagine that's why they make the big bucks.

The iPad's classification is immaterial to me. Maybe it makes sense in the notebook category, but then again, Apple doesn't call it a netbook. It does provide an alternative for people who don't want to deal with the friction of running a portable pc. I suspect it is bringing in more people to mobile computing than taking business away from other mobile devices.

Eventually, it will have explicit competitors, products that are thought out and designed for these new customers. Once that happens, it will be its own category.

Til then, not my problem, best best of luck to those for whom it is.
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@Economister : Bad day at the office? To many Mac Book Pros crashing?
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It's actually a nightmare for us right now.
terry flores Updated - 6th Dec 2010
We have about 50 of the things that execs and "vips" bought. There are few management tools or options for the things, so we spend a lot of "hands-on" service calls whenever they hiccup or the user doesn't know what to do. I figure that our TCO for these devices are going be weighted about 20/80 in procurement vs. service management costs. I would much prefer a real tablet running Windows for business users, even if they never did "real work" on them.
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What a load of BS
wackoae 6th Dec 2010
@terry flores It is pretty much clear you are just pulling a story out of your uncleaned rear-end.

Only complete idiots would think that a device just purchased can be used as-is in a corporate environment. Even execs and vps understand that simple fact.

The fact that you can't see how stupid your post make you sound, shows your immaturity and complete lack of basic in the IT world.
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Yeah!!!!
NonZealot 7th Dec 2010
@wackoae
Apple products aren't perfect.

But anyone who states that there is anything wrong with them is lying.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
lelandhendrix@... 7th Dec 2010
@terry flores There are full management and deployment tools for iPad, just as there are for iPhone. Policy setting, app restriction, custom app installation, remote management and wipe. Google is your friend, seriously.

If they are just walk-in devices, then your execs need a CIO to explain that you can't just piece functionality together and a group policy is needed. They are asking too much if that is the case.

If they are company bought, then it IS YOUR department's job to educate yourselves in how to deploy and manage--which honestly took ME all of ONE DAY.

Your argument that a windows tablet would result in less time babysitting the end-user is completely unfounded, since children and elderly, autistic and otherwise intellectually challenged are capable of just picking the thing up and doing whatever they want.

If employees are just walking in with them and telling you to make it work, THEY are the problem, not the device.
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Well said
use_what_works_4_U 7th Dec 2010
@lelandhendrix@...
IT departments need to stop bowing to the desires of the individual and start actually enforcing policies. If someone so far up the food chain tells me I have to support their personal technology then I will (and have) told them they have 2 options:
(1) Pay me to be an outside consultant
(2) Give me time to learn about the specific device.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
DeusXMachina Updated - 8th Dec 2010
@terry flores
Congratulations on proving your IT incompetence. Not a single complaint you lodged against the iPad is valid. It certainly is NOT a replacement for many computer tasks in the enterprise. It does not need to be. All it NEEDS to be is a device that increases productivity to a sum greater than its total cost. That a HUGE number of top 500 companies seem to think that answer is a resounding yes (including the likes of ADP) while you can't figure out how to find readily available deployment and management tools says little about the iPad and a LOT about your IT knowledge.
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No...
Zc456 6th Dec 2010
As a former iPad owner (prove me wrong all you like), I say no.
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It is a PC
Gis Bun 6th Dec 2010
It has a CPU and GPU. It has memory. It has a hard disk. It has a large screen. You can run applications and not just silly games from the App Store. You can't [directly] make a phone call. You aren't paying monthly fees to a carrier to get phone service.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
DeusXMachina 7th Dec 2010
@Gis Bun
Exactly.
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Truth Hurts Doesn't It Shills??
cyberslammer2 6th Dec 2010
And when iPad 2.0 comes out next year you'll be screaming "NO HDMI PORT, NO USB, WHERES THE DVD DRIVE??" as you always have since January...

Success never looked so good.
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RE: Should the iPad count as a mobile PC?
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 11th Oct
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