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While Skype and Fring feud over video calls, could FaceTime be the answer?

By | July 12, 2010, 7:41pm PDT

Summary: Fring’s updated app allowed iPhone 4 owners to make unrestricted 2-way video calls to Skype on the desktop, but now it doesn’t because of a kerfuffel between the VOIP heavyweights. This one is a draw and the loser is the customer.

Last week VOIP provider Fring released an update to its iPhone app (free, App Store) that allowed iPhone 4 owners to make unrestricted 2-way video calls over Wi-Fi or 3G with other iPhones, Android or Symbian devices.

This was a big deal because while FaceTime is restricted to iPhone 4 users on WiFi, Fring could now make video calls to Fring or Skype on phones or on desktop computers. Imagine the possibilities!

Unfortunately, I had to use the word “could,” as in past tense.

The whole sordid tale turned ugly today when Fring claimed that Skype blocked it and called the company “cowards” that are “afraid of open mobile communication.”

Skype responded by saying that although the two were talking about it, Fring is lying about being blocked and that Fring itself “withdrew support for video calls over Skype on iOS 4 without warning.”

Skype then rattled its $2B legal saber stating that Fring was “in breach of Skype’s API Terms of Use and End User License Agreement” adding that “developers that do not comply with our terms will be subject to legal enforcement.”

It would be nice if all the VOIP and SIP clients (Skype, Fring, Truphone, et al.) banded together and supported the open platforms behind FaceTime so that we can all use video calling. We need to learn a lesson from the fragmentation that happened with incompatible IM protocols and agree on one open platform for video calling and put all legal posturing behind us — for the benefit of the customer.

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Jason O'Grady is a journalist and author specializing in mobile technology. He has published six books on Apple and mobile gadgets and his PowerPage blog has been publishing for over 15 years.

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Jason D. O'Grady

Jason D. O'Grady developed an affinity for Apple computers after using the original Lisa, and this affinity turned into a bona-fide obsession when he got the original 128 KB Macintosh in 1984.

He started writing one of the first Web sites about Apple (O'Grady's PowerPage) in 1995 and is considered to be one of the fathers of blogging. He has been a frequent speaker at the Macworld Expo conference and a member of the conference faculty. He also co-founded the first dedicated PowerBook User Group (PPUG) in the United States.

After winning a major legal battle with Apple in 2006, he set the precedent that independent journalists are entitled to the same protections under the First Amendment as members of the mainstream media.

O'Grady is the author of The Nexus One Pocket Guide, The Droid Pocket Guide, The Google Phone Pocket Guide, and The Garmin nuvi Pocket Guide (Peachpit Press), the author of Corporations That Changed the World: Apple Inc. (Greenwood Press), and a contributor to The Mac Bible (Peachpit Press). In addition, he has contributed to numerous Mac publications over the years, including MacWEEK, Macworld, and MacPower (Japan).

When he's not writing about Apple for ZDNet at The Apple Core, he enjoys spending time with his family in New Jersey.

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RE: While Skype and Fring feud over video calls, could FaceTime be the answer?
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 11th Oct
I really hope you will maintain updating your content and various subject material frequently whilst you have got a simple devoted 2012 nfl jerseys reader proper right here.
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what makes you think FaceTime uses any of these standards
Johnny Vegas Updated - 12th Jul 2010
properly, let alone at all? The linked article only says "if". Do you know of any other video chat clients (maybe PC based) that use them that FaceTime interoperates with? Until I know it interoperates with more than one other non FaceTime, non apple video chat client I'm guessing it's not fully standards compliant.

Also apple would have to make it work with 3G/4G for us all to be one big happy video chatting family and someone would have to pony up for the licensing of the H.264 encoder for android.

So there's still a bit of work to be done...
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And why, out of all, should it be FaceTime?
Daniel Breslauer 13th Jul 2010
Sounds like you're trying to Appelize the entire world. Why FaceTime and not Skype? Is Apple somehow more ethical than Skype?
Sure, facetime is a great answer if all your friends are on iPhone 4.0. Skype is also great if all your friends are on the specific phones and carriers that Skype struck commercial deal with. For me, fring is the only practical option with friends on whatever phone they have and whatever cellular carrier they happen to be signed to.
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Stick with open protocols, e.g., SIP
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 13th Jul 2010
I use Gizmo (SIP) and GoogleTalk (Jabber), both of which work fine on Fring.
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Hey, if Facetime is standards based then:
Hameiri Updated - 13th Jul 2010
Somebody will build an app for Android that will use the same standards and work on 3g/4g. That will give Apple a kick in the butt.

But, remember that new iPhone 4 customers are limited on their data plane. How many video phone calls will it take to go over that limit?
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Somebody will build an app for Android that will use the same standards and work on 3G/4G. That will give Apple a kick in the butt.

But, remember that new iPhone 4 customers are limited on their data plane. How many video phone calls will it take to go over that limit?
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RE: While Skype and Fring feud over video calls, could FaceTime be the answer?
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 11th Oct
I really hope you will maintain updating your content and various subject material frequently whilst you have got a simple devoted 2012 nfl jerseys reader proper right here.

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