Apple: You're too dumb to make your own technology decisions

Apple: You're too dumb to make your own technology decisions

Summary: I was reading TechCrunch's coverage of regarding the roll-out of the iPhone in the UK, particularly the point where it says:...O2 has fired up its network with the slower Edge technology (as against Europe’s love affair with HSDPA) to accomodate the iPhone.....

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I was reading TechCrunch's coverage of regarding the roll-out of the iPhone in the UK, particularly the point where it says:

...O2 has fired up its network with the slower Edge technology (as against Europe’s love affair with HSDPA) to accomodate the iPhone..... There is no 3G iPhone as yet because, as Jobs said at the launch, the “The trade off with 3G [in battery life] is too bad right now....

This, of course, gets to one of the iPhone's biggest drawbacks: the fact that it doesn't have an easily replaceable battery (an issue that New York's Consumer Protection Board took serious issue with). The trade-off of HSDPA performance vs. battery life wouldn't have been a trade-off at all if only Apple had thought to make the iPhone with a replaceable battery the same way pretty much EVERY other cell and smart phone on the market has. But Apple knows better, right? A replaceable battery would have probably confused people who are used to the iTunes/iPod-esque way of everything just working without a fuss.

Update 9/18/2007 8:40 PM PDT: Either Jobs knows something about forthcoming improvements to battery technology or he's had a change of heart regarding iPhone design.  He apparently said a 3G iPhone is coming in 2008.

I felt exactly the same way when I read Cory Doctorow's blog post on how Apple's new iPods have been re-engineered to block synching with Linux. Apple knows better than you. God forbid you should have choice and be able to make some technology decisions for yourself. Of course, Apple is engaged in all sorts of unspeakable acts of walled-garden erection: "OS X may runneth on the Intel platform but thou shalt not runneth OS X on anything but our Intel platform." I'd be running OS X in a heartbeat if only I could run it on a notebook with a pointing stick (I hate touch pads). "Thou shalt not calleth someone with your iPhone on any network but AT&T's network" (Ooops, HACKED). "For 99 cents, thou shalt only start the playback of an iTunes song manually. Automated playback as the result of an event (for example, the arrival of an inbound call on your iPhone), will cost you an additional 99 cents." In other words, "You are dumb. Insert money here (buy Apple stock if you want it back)."

Bonus Link: video of Bill Maher ribbing (or should that be ripping) "early adopters" of the iPhone

Topics: Apple, Hardware, iPhone, Mobility

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  • Bad morning?

    Did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed? While I agree a replaceable battery for the iPhone would be nice, I believe there was a benefit to having it not be replaceable, wasn't there? And the design is pretty consistant for iPods and the iPhone (which became an iPod as well) not having a replaceable battery, so it's not like it's a surprise? It seems to come down to, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Offering suggestions is always good, but there seems to be some pent-up anger in your phrasing. What does insulting some of your reader's intelligence accomplish? (Note: Own 1 apple, 2 homebuilt winxp desktop, laptop winxp, dual boot with ubuntu/winxp, desktop with win98, and another computer with either fc5 or dreamlinux on it, I don't remember)

    The rest has been covered already so I hesitate to comment on them, except the ring tone one. What do the other carriers charge for ringtones? Seems like it's more than 99 cent (or $1.98 if you don't already own the song)? I've never bought a ringtone from Verizon (whom I'm locked to by MY choice of phone, just as an iPhone purchaser is locked to AT&T) so I can't say how much they cost.

    Thanks
    meelder
    • re: Bad morning?

      [i]I believe there was a benefit to having it not be replaceable, wasn't there?[/i]

      I'd be interested to know what that was.
      Badgered
      • Sturdy case design.

        iPhone has not broken is several thousand test drops (Google it or YouTube it). Can't say that about the plastic phones!
        nomorems
        • interesting

          in all the phones I've owned that's never been a problem. ty for the info though.
          Badgered
        • re: Sturdy case design.

          nomorems:

          "iPhone has not broken is several thousand test drops (Google it or YouTube it). Can't say that about the plastic phones!"

          Q. And just what space-age material is the iPhone's case made out of?

          A. Plastic.

          I've dropped several of my [b]plastic[/b] phones on various hard surfaces and have never encountered anything more than superficial cosmetic damage. And, the battery covers stayed in place!

          Also, I seem to recall photos of one of the early adopters who managed to whack the screen of his iPhone against the corner of his desk. Said phone was docked at the time, and the early adopter rushed to answer it when it rang. Oopsie! Busted screen!

          It's certainly not a common occurrence, but bad things can happen.
          M.R. Kennedy
          • Correction

            I was in error when I said the iPhone's case is plastic. It is not.

            Mea culpa.
            M.R. Kennedy
      • One benifit.

        Is that the case is tighter. The ipod and iphones pack a lot of components into an extremely streamlined housing. Providing a battery door weakens the housing, and constantly opening it and closing it can further weaken it. It might be that Apple wasn't confident that their slimline housing was durable enough and so needed the extra rigidity of being a sealed unit.
        But thats just speculation.

        I understand why some people would want this extra feature but, I would personally rather have a sealed unit and just plug it into a dock or cradle to recharge it rather than always looking for batteries to keep the thing going.
        Tigertank
        • Ummm...what?

          "Look for batteries to keep the thing going"
          ???????????????????

          Who does that? No no no no no. I know you've had a cell phone before and know better than that. You CHARGE a cell phone battery. But, when you have no access to a charger or the battery finally stops holding a charge (usually takes a few years if you are a normal user), you can CHANGE it. Example - I charge my phone (on average, once a week). I don't turn it off, I don't take the battery out. I simply connect the charger to the phone and in an hour, boom. Fully charged ready for the week ahead. However, when camping, there are no outlets, but there is cell service (emergencies, I turn it off when camping, or else what's the point, right?). Say the battery goes dead and you're in the woods, lost or hurt, with your iPhone. Too bad, huh? Me, I'll just pull my extra, fully charged battery out of my pack, replace the battery, and get help.

          That's just one example. There are hundreds of reasons to have a user-replaceable battery and only one to not - control.
          laura.b
          • easy tiger...

            Why so fired up about a battery in phone you don't even want?
            As I previously posted, this was a reason why a replaceable battery is not a deal breaker for me. Obviously it means more to you.
            I don't even like my car keys in my pocket, I don't want to have to carry around the extra battery just in case the other one dies. I don't know the reason for not offering it as an option but I gave a possible one in my previous post.

            and just for the record, I have a Nokia phone with a sealed battery which I have been using since 1999 with no problems.
            Tigertank
          • Not fired up :)

            Simply confused by the reference to changing the battery every couple of hours, as if anyone would actually do that.

            I understand that you don't want the extra battery. Lots of people don't. Truthfully, I've never had to replace a battery because it wouldn't hold a charge anymore (except for maybe the Nokia phone I got when I was 16....remember the 11-lb, grey screen POSs? Man, they were awesome and totally cutting edge at the time, weren't they? LOL) They only time I have changed a battery is because I needed a charged one NOW and there was no outlet, so like, 10 times, probably, ever. However, since I have had to, I want the same option in the future, just in case. I was just pointing out that lots of people do, so it's not stupid to want one.

            I didn't say I didn't want an iPhone. I certainly would never pay what they are asking for it considering the features attached. But if it were a reasonable price, I'd like one. It's a really neat device. Just not as unique and special as lots claim it is.

            Yeah, after posting, I think I recall a Blackberry that had a sealed in battery once too. They got rid of that, though, because users didn't like it. I suspect the same will happen with the iPhone.

            In case you didn't know, or hadn't paid any attention - if we keep making a stink about it, prehaps they will change it. It doesn't have to actually tear you up to complain, but if you want it changed, well, you've got to squeak. :)
            laura.b
      • Style

        It's a factor. Especially in a consumer product.
        frgough
        • Not quite sure I buy that as a benefit

          of not having a user replaceable battery.... but to each his own.
          Badgered
          • One million iPhone

            sold in three months in the United States is pretty strong evidence that a replaceable battery is not as important as the pundits talking to themselves in the shower think it is.

            But, I forget. These same pundits think anyone who disagrees with them (I.e. buys Apple) is stupid.
            frgough
          • Are you going to be okay?

            He said that that wasn't a factor for him as far as the battery goes. You reply with, he must be wrong because 1,000,000 others are right, and then call him out for thinking that "anyone who disagrees with them is stupid."

            Seems to me like you're having a stroke or something. That's about all that could explain such an out-of-proportion response to a post like that.

            I suggest you call 911 immediately. If you are actually just having a particularly nasty day and are in perfect health, please don't subject the rest of us to your bad mood, and please reply to politeness with politeness and not rude, smug, pointless drivel. A simple "Lots of people don't agree, but that's your opinion" would have sufficed instead of insulting him and everyone else who does have a problem with this feature - and those of use who carry an extra battery around do have a problem with it, btw, and there are more of us than you think - that doesn't make us stupid, and it doesn't mean that we are going to try to make you follow our lead. It does, however, mean that we have a differing opinion than you. Thank god we live in America where we are allowed to have differing opinions without an obligatory duel, huh?

            Basically, I'm telling you that you need to back off. It's not important enough to make a jerk out of yourself for it.
            laura.b
          • "and there are more of us than you think"

            Apparently Apple disagrees. And 1 million iPhone purchasers disagree. Unless Apple sees that a sealed phone is causing a dramatic loss in sales I doubt they will change it. Oh, and getting a new battery for the iPhone is actually CHEAPER than getting a new battery for my BlackBerry pearl. I don't think Apple did this for the money but for durability.
            nomorems
          • @nomorems

            Or however it's spelled.....I can't remember at the moment

            You have dilluded yourself. There are over 1,000,000,000 cell phones. 1,000,000 of them are iPhones. If you do the math, that's equal to .1% of the cell phone population.

            Yeah. That's a compelling reason to think that you are right, no one would ever want that.

            Not to mention that the post was far more aimed at the previous poster being a jerk about it as opposed to the number of people who care/don't care.

            Wait...what am I doing? You're a troll. I don't talk to trolls if I can avoid it.

            Go troll somewhere else. You don't make sense here.
            laura.b
          • re: One million iPhone

            frgough:

            "sold in three months in the United States is pretty strong evidence that a replaceable battery is not as important as the pundits talking to themselves in the shower think it is."

            No, it's strong evidence that the importance of form over function (style vs. substance) is less important to the pundits who voice reasonable criticisms.

            "But, I forget. These same pundits think anyone who disagrees with them (I.e. buys Apple) is stupid."

            But I forget. These same Apple fanbois think anyone who disagrees with them (i.e., buys anything [b]but[/b] Apple) is stupid.

            Check. And mate.
            M.R. Kennedy
          • I think you need to just watch...

            the Bill Mayer clip a dozen times or so and get back to reality about what Apple users are all about. You know it's funny, so don't hold back just cause he's dissing your beloved.
            <br>
            ;)
            xuniL_z
          • Guess your beloved Microsoft couldn't help you with this one.

            His name is Bill Maher. Try exploring something else other than the Microsoft propaganda you love to read and shill so much.
            nomorems
        • re: Style

          frgough:

          Yeah, form over function is the most important part of any piece of modern Apple equipment...
          M.R. Kennedy