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How long will Microsoft support XP and Vista?

By | September 21, 2008, 6:00pm PDT

Summary: In the comments to an earlier post, a reader wonders out loud whether Microsoft plans to dump its Vista users when Windows 7 comes out. Fortunately, the support lifecycle for all Microsoft products is well documented. In this post, I show you where to look up the details and explain why XP and Vista users will still have access to critical support resources even after Windows 8 is released.

In the Talkback section to another post, a reader asks a question about when Microsoft plans to drop support for Windows Vista. I hear variations on this one all the time, so I figured it’s worth covering here:

If MS is pushing up Win 7, what is going to happen to all the Vista users? Are they going to get screwed by a short term OS? It seems that MS is stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one. If Vista becomes a speed bump, then the Vista users will be angry. If they don’t then all the people who hate Vista will be angry. While in total numbers Vista users are small in number now it still is a large number of people.

I might quibble with the characterization that the total number of Vista users is small. Even if you discount Microsoft’s numbers by 50%, you still have 100 million people using Vista today. That’s a huge number by almost any standard and is only small when you compare it to the billion or so Windows machines in existence. So, are those millions and millions of customers out in the cold when Windows 7 comes out?

In a word, no. Microsoft has a well-documented support lifecycle for its software products. It’s part of the agreement that the company makes with everyone who installs Windows, especially business customers who want some assurance that they’ll be able to get updates and support for operating systems and applications even if they choose not to upgrade to the latest and greatest. Here are the high points and how they relate to Windows Vista.

The lifecycle includes two main phases:

  • The Mainstream Support phase includes security updates, non-security hotfixes, no-charge incident support, paid support, warranty claims, design changes and feature requests, and access to online resources such as the Knowledge Base and Microsoft Help and Support.
  • In the Extended Support phase, Microsoft continues to provide security updates, paid support, and online information. Customers who want hotfix support can purchase an extended agreement within 90 days of the end of the Mainstream Support phase.

After the Extended Support phase ends, you can continue to use online self-help resources, but all other support has to be provided through third parties or through custom support agreements such as those enjoyed by some large corporate customers.

So how do these support options map for you? That depends on whether you’re using a business or consumer product.

  • For Business and Developer products (which includes Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions of Vista), the Mainstream Support phase runs for a minimum of five years or two years after the release of the next edition of the product, whichever is later. Assuming that Windows 7 ships in 2009 or 2010, that means Vista will enjoy mainstream support until at least November 30, 2011. The Extended Support phase runs for an additional five years, so you can count on security updates for Vista until at least November 30, 2016.
  • For Consumer products (which includes Vista Home Basic and Home Premium), Microsoft provides Mainstream Support only. Because the launch of the consumer version of Vista was two months later than the business launch, the support lifecycle provides for full support until at least January 30, 2012, or two years after the release of Windows 7, whichever is later.

Good news for consumers is that security updates apply to all Windows versions, so any Vista security updates made available via Windows Update should be delivered to consumers and businesses alike, even during the Extended Support phase. So your copy of Vista Home Premium will continue to receive security updates for at least eight more years.

And what about XP? When Vista came out, conspiracy theorists were quick to predict that Microsoft would abandon it and force customers to switch to Vista. I debunked that notion shortly before Vista shipped. A few months later, in January 2007, Microsoft officially expanded its support terms for XP, covering home editions under the Extended Support phase (see “XP gets a new lease on life”  for details). So, if you use any XP edition, you’re covered through April 2014.

By that time, of course, Windows 8 will probably have been released, which means that Microsoft will be actively supporting four separate desktop editions of Windows.

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RE: How long will Microsoft support XP and Vista?
beijing2008 14th Sep
First of all, snagging, and tysm for sharing! fake hermes
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Long Live Windows Support
larry@... 21st Sep 2008
Not only is the lifecycle well-documented, but nobody supports their products for as long a lifecycle as Microsoft. Microsoft is still supporting Windows 2000, released 8.5 years ago, and Internet Explorer 5.5 on it.

Apple supports only the last two OS versions. 10.4 was released 4/29/2005. If you bought a new Mac the day before your OS is no longer supported.

When a new version of Firefox comes out, you have at most 6 months to upgrade before Mozilla abandons all support, including security updates.

Red Hat is better than it used to be. They how have a 7 year lifecycle on RHEL (http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/#lifecycle). Long, but not as long as Windows.

Sun stops issuing patches for Solaris after 2 years (http://www.sun.com/service/eosl/index.jsp).
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Sun
TedKraan 21st Sep 2008
Sun supports a major milestone for at least a 9.6 year lifecycle.

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/lifecycle.xml

Not 2 years.
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misreading
larry@... 22nd Sep 2008
We both misread the pages we linked to. Re-reading both it looks to me as if they have security updates for a total of 6 years from initial ship date.
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Re: Long Live Windows Support
wtfk 22nd Sep 2008
Apples and oranges, so to speak. OS X v10.5 is OS X.
v10.4
is OS X. 10.0.00 is OS X.

It's all "supported" through complete backward
compatibility.
Unlike Windows, where something written for yesterday's
version often doesn't work on today's, OS X rarely has
anything like that issue.

Oh, and that's Apple the OS X vendor and OS X the
computer vendor. As for the vendor of your windows box-
-that can be an entirely separate issue.
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Good distinction there...
Ben_E 22nd Sep 2008
...on the Apple hardware vs. Apple software. However, 10.5 is not 10.4 is not 10.3 etc. etc.

Each one is touted as a fairly major release, software y will only run from version x onwards etc. It is the same as Windows in that regard - cut off pre-SP1 support, then pre-SP2 support etc.

I write this as a massive fan of both Vista and OS X (though not necessarily the July 08 MacBook Pro it runs on - it has too many minor niggles and one major niggle in the appalling wi-fi connectivity for me to truly recommend it, given its price point) and I use both for different things. One thing I will say is that if you are feeling financially flush enough to get a Mac, go the whole hog and get the AppleCare support - they do a great job of help with the systems!
First of all, snagging, and tysm for sharing! fake hermes
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Microsoft does several things to stay in the game:

1. Create infrastructure that others can play with. They do not always make the best, but it is usually fairly open so the developers have a large play area. For example, VB was limited at the start, but now has the largest number of programmers.

2. Don't give up on customers, by providing loooooong-term support. This is where other companies, including IBM and Apple have dropped the ball (examples below). Many get bored and think it is OK to ditch loyal customers and leave them in the lurch. Others just don't have the financials to backup their visions.



Apple has a couple of notable examples of abandoment:

a. They had a PDA called the Newton. One day it was just dropped. Software companies that had built products around it were abandoned without notice. One Melbourne mapping software company, decided to go with MS CE, its PDA OS, citing it couldn't trust Apple any more. MS evolved CE in Windows Mobile, but it what is important is that it was a continuous line of develpoment.

b. A music software company called eMagic has a product called Logic, an audio sequencer for recording music available for both Windows PCs and Apples. We were just about to buy it so that we could work with the two musicians helping us with our CD. One had just recently bought the program. Apple bough eMagic and immediately announced that the PC version would be discontinued in two months. Basically they cast it away as dead in the water, with the ultimatum for its users to buy an Apple or get lost. 10,000s went elsewhere as they didn't want to HAVE to have an Apple. From then on, I decided that Apple couldn't be trusted for anything that I would consider mission-critical.

Can you trust a company that lets ideology trample its owns customers? A single source that has ideological blinkers is not what I would call a reliable business partner! MS sometimes gets confused about which way to go, makes wrong calls, but at least it stays in the game. Unfortunately some things don't get the takeup that MS expected, start falling by the wayside. But declaring a product non grata from one day to the next is not their game.

What I don't understand is why Apple engenders such loyalty when they treat their customers so badly. But some people seem to like being abused, like those who worked for a computer manufacturer where I was a Tech Manager. The boss was not adverse to verbally abusing them, even to the point of daily abusing one guy. The guy used to winge about the boss, but continued to work there. Some people have low self-esteem and allow other people and companies to walk all over them. Hard spell to break.


In all this I am not saying MS is perfect. I use MS Office app to create utilities to support enterprise micro-management. It is such usage that will make it very difficult for alternate products to get in. I still do not know why we still have separate formats for Word, Excel, PowerPoint files, when a single format encompasing all of the structures would really allow some creative solutions. OLE is faulty. Word's numbering resets itself too often (suddenly all TOC entries point to page 0 - numbering has been broken is this way since Word 6). The interaction between Word's styles and the numbering is too complex so that indents will suddenly go completely askew.
Why can't Tables in Word have the full functionality of Excel, but allowing formula anywhere that can reference any named field in the text or cell range? And the competition thinks emulating the separate apps will break MSs hold in the enterprise. Only a real quantum leap in functionality of real value to a company will have any chance of that.
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Well, Ed
TedKraan 21st Sep 2008
The support thing of MS is always in the news. I think it's a way to getting folks scared and run out and get a newer windows version that they don't even want.

I would rather be using 98SE for my games so i would see a huge performance gain. Yet, i can't, cause the gaming industry is supporting XP and Vista only.

But i don't think Vista lovers will have to worry. I think MS kept supporting ME for quite a while too, after being a total marketing failure too.
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It's amazingly naive...
cgdams 22nd Sep 2008
...to assume that todays complex and memory hungry games would even theoretcally be able to run on the Windows 16 platform.
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Today's
TedKraan 22nd Sep 2008
games would easily run on a DOS/4GW, provided the correct drivers where available.

Somewhere along the road, memory management stranded in Win32s and PC gaming suffered serious performance hits because of it and every more bloated edition of the OS hasn't helped it neither.
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Not for long
CobraA1 22nd Sep 2008
Not for long - the high resolution textures of today's games are starting to hit the limits of 32 bit computing, and game developers are starting to get vocal about wanting 64 bit support. If 64 bit computing continues to gain popularity, they'll become too large even when using 32 bit extenders.

And drivers can be a major problem, considering that most games are using DirectX 9 and 10, which are totally unsupported in DOS.
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You would need a 64 bits extender ofcourse.

And DirectX is indeed how you put far too dominant even to be able to judge it's true performance. (e.g. no reference in High End PC gaming)
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win 98 max addressable mem - 512mb
John.Murray 22nd Sep 2008
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It's not memory alone...
cgdams 22nd Sep 2008
...that would pose a problem here. Most games today are massively multi-threaded, and Windows 16 does not even have decent preemptive multitasking.

Besides, i consider the claim that game performance has take a considerable hit by the OS and it's needs just another urban myth. Seems to me more like my grandpa used to say: Everything was better in the old days... even the future...
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Exactly!
TedKraan 23rd Sep 2008
Seems to me more like my grandpa used to say: Everything was better in the old days... even the future...

You are right there! or your grandpa is.. what if he had kissed that girl? what if that other guy hadn't come in to take over the position he could fill as well?
What if that manager hadn't made that silly decision and the company had survived?

Sometimes we look back on things and see how it could have been.
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Which is why it was faster. In the move to more
stable and secure operating environments that had to
be changed and the drivers moved out. That means the
drivers have to interact with Windows as it's the only
thing allowed direct access to the hardware. This is
what prevents a display driver crash from BSOD'ing a
PC these days. Often times, short of hardware
failure, it's able to be restarted without rebooting
the OS. Certainly a fair trade off.

As for why DX is dominant, it's simple. There hasn't
been any competition for a long time. OpenGL has it's
head pretty far up it's own arse.
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Huh?
TedKraan 23rd Sep 2008
This is what prevents a display driver crash from BSOD'ing a PC these days. Often times, short of hardware failure, it's able to be restarted without rebooting the OS. Certainly a fair trade off.

Riiiggggghhhht...
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re: huh?
rtk 23rd Sep 2008
Ted, Might want to do a little research on this before you look silly.

XP video driver crash = BSOD
Vista video driver crash = screen flash and a notification that your driver had to be restarted.
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Read it again
TedKraan 24th Sep 2008
This is what prevents a display driver crash from BSOD'ing a PC these days.

Maybe i'm making too much of what this statement implies semanticly.
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Try again
Joeman57 22nd Sep 2008
That's bs and you know it. There's no way crysis would run in DOS, and your bloat argument is tired and false.
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who said DOS?
TedKraan Updated - 23rd Sep 2008
Besides PS3 runs on DOS too..

/me tries to feed some more ......

Dos4/gw was just an ill example really. Back in the DOS days we had one game that made a custom bootdisk and started from that special boot disk. It had a customised optimised environment.
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Win2k?
x-windows user 15th Oct 2008
Win2k, not win98 was the ultimate speedy gaming platform.
I'm still using windows 2000 on a dual core athlon x2 5600, and I can tell you it flat out smokes.

Compare win2k and xp, and win2k beats it, compare win2k to vista, and there is no comparison. Period.
Win2k was the pinnacle of Windows development.
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98SE
atari8bit@... 7th Apr 2009
remember 98 can't support over 2ghz cpu's and SLI is a dream on it. I still use Epox 8rda+3 with a Athlon 3200 and a Geforce 4600TI and 2gb PC400 but that's about it.
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With all respect to Ed...
Sleeper Service 22nd Sep 2008
...this shouldn't really be news to anyone although it is interesting to contrast their legacy OS support to that of other OS providers.
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I've been using MS software since Dos 3 and no competitor has ever come close to allowing me to do what I do the way I want to do it like Microsoft. Ya Ya they suck some times but really . . . Microsoft ROCKS!!! Linux? Phooey!
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I couldn't care less. I do windows installation and security for a living but I prefer Linux for myself so I don't really care how long they support it, in fact the quicker they come up with a new insecure buggy OS the more money I'll make grin
Apples and oranges, so to speak. OS X v10.5 is OS X. v10.4
is OS X. 10.0.00 is OS X.

It's all "supported" through complete backward compatibility.
Unlike Windows, where something written for yesterday's
version often doesn't work on todays, OS X rarely has
anything close to that problem.
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It would be nice if they throw a bone to VISTA users in the form of a very cheap upgrade to W7, especially if W7 turns out to be Vista SP2 with a new name
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not of this world Updated - 23rd Sep 2008
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Win7 is not a "new" OS but it's the codename for Vista SP2.
if it's a "new" OS, it will have the same Vista core + other new user's features such as Multitouch. The most of updates in core components will be backported to Vista with a SP2.
I stick with Vista
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How long SHOULD Microsoft support XP and Vista?
Dr_Zinj Updated - 23rd Sep 2008
15 years, and 20 years.

Operating systems have been an evolving technology. As they mature, the life cycles should increase in length, which we are seeing, as the code becomes larger, more features are incorporated into the package, and the code stabilizes (hopefully).

1 year Win 1.xx
2 years Win 2.xx
3 years Win 3.xx
4 years Win 4.xx
5 years Win 9x
10 years Win 2000
15 years Win XP
20 years Win Vista

Of course since I drew a line in my personal bank account at XP, I don't have to worry about Vista support. By the time W2K and XP become uneconomically supportable, I'll be cruising with whatever version of Linux I'll be using.
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By that logic...
Ed Bott 23rd Sep 2008
Apple should support OS X 10.5 for about 50 years.
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What's the point to this article, Ed?
hasta la Vista, bah-bie 23rd Sep 2008
It's all right here in b/w. No rocket science. No confusion.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&C2=1173&x=17&y=10

Unless it's too quiet out there and you're running out of M$ topics to talk about...
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time to jump off your hobby horse
midgeuk 6th Oct 2008
Ed, when are you going to acknowledge that Vista has flopped? Everyone else seems to have given up on it including Microsoft. Your reputation has gone down the pan by flogging this dead horse for so long.
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Works just fine here
Ed Bott 6th Oct 2008
I know lots of people who are very productive with Vista. If it doesn't work for you, fnie, don't use it. But don't assume that you speak for the entire market.
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Nice try. No cigar.
Cayble 6th Oct 2008
"Everyone else seems to have given up on it including Microsoft."

A statement that is not only dead wrong, I would suggest that its so horribly incorrect that anyone who could find their way to this forum and decide to post, also knows that the statement is completely wrong and is therefore, when coming from such a person is also a bare faced lie.
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No, it's half right
Breetai 15th Oct 2008
Vista is a Dud but that's not stopping Microsoft's propoganda and monopoly machine from forcing this lemon on everyone.
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Try it for yourself!
Mectron 16th Oct 2008
Vista as been bashed bu just about every lound mouth on the planet (this include you). But most of then are too dum to use a computer (then you should get a mac) or try vista on old hardware or complain because they cannot use a 1999 piece of software....

The thrue is, most of vista problems are caused by buggy drivers or older software NOT Vista it self. Vista work just fine and is a natural evolution of the Windows platform. i even run smoother on my EEE PC 1000 then winXP...
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Perhaps
Dr_Zinj 24th Sep 2008
Maybe not for 50 years, but definately for longer than previous Apple/MAC OSes.
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That's just silly
notsofast 23rd Sep 2008
MS should patch Vista for 20 years? That makes no sense.

Most people buy a new computer and they get a new OS (or the same one if a new one hasn't come out). There's no way that a persons main computer in 2028 is going to be Vista. I doubt people will run windows 8 or windows 9 for that matter.

Personally, I don't get the complaints about Vista pricing. Home Premium is under 100 bucks.

Adjusted for inflation, Home Premium might cost 10 or 15 bucks more than Dos 5!

I considered older versions of windows expensive, but IMO, home premium has pretty much everything a typical home user needs...actually it has much more than they need.

For non-business use, there are plenty of ways to get cheap licenses for for Vista Ultimate. I got it for under 100 bucks (retail license at that). I got a free license for Business, as well as Office 2007.

And again, for the home users, they'll take whatever comes in the PC....and Vista is definitely easier than XP (as a whole...some things take more mouse clicks, but for non tech users, they may not use those features much).
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Not at all, think about it.
Dr_Zinj 24th Sep 2008
Think of it this way.

XOS 1.0 has 10 features, 9 of which get used all the time, 1 almost never.

XOS 2.0 has 100 features (inclusive of the 10 from the previous version), 75 of which get used all the time, 20 infrequently, and 5 almost never. Performance is 5 times faster than 1.0

XOS 3.0 has 250 features (inclusive of the 100 from the previous version), 100 of which get used all the time, 125 infrequently at best, and 25 almost never. Performance is 3 times faster than 2.0

XOS 2000 has 750 features (inclusive of the 250 from the previous version), 200 of which get used all the time, 450 rarely get used, 100 almost never. Performance is 1.15 times faster than 3.0

Each time you buy a new OS, you are paying for the same old features that you used, you're paying for a decreasingly smaller percentage of total features that you'll use. And you're paying more for a decreasing amount of speed gain.

You're going to reach a point where you'll be buying a new OS, and effectively getting nothing of value in return.

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You say that there's no way a person's main computer in 2028 is going to be running Vista. That will be entirely dependent on what people will have as disposable income between now and then (which today doesn't look very hopeful), and what significant gains (if any) we see in PC performance.

I still have a fully operational AST 486/33 running Windows 98 that I bought back in 1994 (I could load Windows 3.11 back up on it and run that if I desired.) It runs MS Office, that I purchased that year. Internet Explorer and Netscape run on it. And I can access e-mail and the web with it. Admittedly a lot of web pages don't load other than glacially; but office apps don;t run significantly slower than current apps unless I'm working with supergigantic spreadsheets or databases, or powerpoint slides with massive graphic objects and 100's of slides in them; all of which is way more than Mr. or Ms. Average are going to be doing. And that system is from 18 years ago. I'm not exactly on the top of the socio-economic scale, but if I were at the bottom, it's not at all inconceiveable that I would be running this system as my main (and only) system. And I know people running sole proprietorships who were still running old systems with DOS as much as 2 years ago because that was all the technology they needed.

So unless people are making computers that aren't as good as they were 15 years ago, there's no reason why today's systems can't be working just fine in 20 years.
What do you think free product support is? I can see you have no clue. It aids in protecting the product against manufacturing, or in this case more like design defects. Not too many products that get the use a computer OS has would last long enough to even have the opportunity to get serviced for free after 4 or 5 years. What do you think Microsoft's responsibility to support XP for 20 years is? SO it can operate on hardware from 2010 and still get online and not crash when it meets new obstacles and threats from 2020? Be real. In every case there has to be a reasonable limit to product life span.
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Beyond silly. Your right.
Cayble 6th Oct 2008
Patching XP for 20 years implies that 20 years after the fact Microsoft still suggests that using XP is a reasonable option. XP is a great OS, hence its long term usage, but 20 years?

Fair is fair. Free support for an OS is much the same as a manufacturers guarantee of a product being free of manufacturing defects; a virtual impossibility in any program or application, never mind an OS as complex as Windows.

Thinking that MS should keep patching up XP for 20 years pretty much makes the claim that MS should have been able to reasonably foreseen the kinds of conflicts, errors and security issues XP would face in that time and should have been able to reasonably protect the OS against all those potential problems for the same price. Absurd. 10 years is pretty darn good in such a situation. It looks like MS will go beyond that.
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RE: That's just silly
richdave Updated - 17th Oct 2008
>>>...MS should patch Vista for 20 years? That makes no sense...

There are a couple of Linux Distros which are set up that way. Install once and forever current via upgrades, bug fixes, normal updates, and security fixes. All of your software always supported. Pretty neat!
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I barely skimmed the article, but 2 years between major releases WAS standard before XP. Now everybodies complaining cause they've had half a decade of un-innovated operating system. XP won't be disabled or held useless when microsoft quits supporting it, you just won't be able to get service from microsoft (big woop) The only time I've used microsoft support was when a new OS came out that I wasn't familiar with. Theres plenty of third party support out there, and microsoft is a company, and companies need to make money for their shareholders. In return we have fancy new operating systems that give up reasons for faster computers every few years. (big woop). I still run '98 on my pentium 90, (I really don't know why, but it's sitting around so I use it)
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support
rtk 23rd Sep 2008
in this sense doesn't mean calling up to complain that your mouse is slow, support from MS means service packs, updates rollups, security patches, etc.
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As the other poster said, it's all in black and white. But I do
disagree with the numbers Ed is assuming...maybe MS sold
200 million copies of Vista, but how many are actually being
used? We still haven't booted a machine to Vista in our entire
school district, just upgraded to XP Sp3, including the entire
new lab we just installed. The Vista disks went in the closet.
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And I am sure you had reasons...
Cayble 6th Oct 2008
To put the disks in the closet. If you are in the know, you will recall there were more then a few XP disks sitting in closets for a few years when XP first cam out,until the reasons changed. So, so what. Here we are again. Deja Vu all over again.
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Signs of desperation, the more they move the more they
sink. Let it sink brother let it sink happy
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I am so tired of getting an up to date new system that is suppose to be the absolute end all of systems and then the next system is suppose to be better and bolder...and blah blah blah..

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