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Is IE8 really fat and slow?

By | March 26, 2009, 5:14pm PDT

Summary: Since IE8 shipped last week, I’ve read two criticisms repeatedly: One is the burning question of whether IE8 is faster or slower than its competitors; the other is whether it makes reasonable use of system resources. In this post, I explain why some people are seeing performance issues (and share an obscure system tweak that might just cure IE8 performance and stability problems). I also take a closer look at why you might prefer a browser that uses more memory than others.

Since IE8 shipped last week, I’ve been following reviews and user feedback closely. A lot of the reactions to Microsoft’s new browser come down to personal preference: Some people like the usability-oriented tweaks Microsoft made, others think the browser is too busy or cluttered. It’s hard to argue with opinions.

But two criticisms have come up repeatedly that can be measured empirically, so I thought I would do that here. One is the burning question of whether IE8 is faster or slower than its competitors; the other is whether it makes reasonable use of system resources. In this post, I explain why some people are seeing performance issues (and share an obscure system tweak that might just cure IE8 performance and stability problems). I also take a closer look at why some browsers use more memory than others.

When it comes to browser speed tests, I have yet to find an objective consensus from the published data. Microsoft’s tests, not surprisingly, show that page load times are competitive with (and in many cases, faster than) its rivals on most popular pages.

That conclusion was borne out by a series of independent tests performed by PC World, which concluded that IE8 really is faster than Firefox:

By and large, we found that Internet Explorer 8 performed well, and beat out Firefox 3.0.7 in the majority of our time trials. However, IE 8’s performance advantage is relatively negligible. In most of our testing, IE 8’s advantage was half a second or less.

On the other hand, the Wall Street Journal’s Walt Mossberg reached the opposite conclusion in his review:

in my tests, IE8 wasn’t as fast as Firefox, or two other notable browsers — the Windows version of Apple’s new Safari 4 and Google’s Chrome. IE8 loaded a variety of pages I tested more slowly than any of the other browsers, and it grew sluggish when juggling a large number of Web pages opened simultaneously in tabs

I was baffled by Mossberg’s results. When I tried the same tests on several PCs here with IE8, Firefox 3.0.7, and Google Chrome, I got the same results as PC World. In general, all pages loaded so quickly in all three browsers that detecting any difference with a stopwatch was nearly impossible. If I tried to graph the results, it would look like a picket fence.

Then, I heard from a colleague (let’s call her Mary Jo), who was having problems nearly identical to those that Mossberg reported. Using IE8 on Windows XP, she reported:

It’s running horribly. I am having a ton of performance problems with multiple tabs open. After opening four or five tabs, things slow down and the tab progress indicator spins endlessly if I try to open a new tab.

Sounds familiar, doesn’t it? In fact, the problem was so bad that simply closing IE wasn’t enough, as multiple processes of Iexplore.exe continued running and had to be killed manually.

We did the basic troubleshooting, checking for the current version of popular add-ons like Flash (up to date) and confirming that system resources weren’t a problem (1GB of RAM on XP should be plenty).

So I checked with a few colleagues on some back channels and discovered a tweak that had worked for other people.  From a Command Prompt window, I had her run the following command:

regsvr32 actxprxy.dll

That re-registers the ActiveX Interface Marshaling Library, an obscure DLL that most people (even Microsoft experts) had never heard about. (Update: 27-Mar: Note that if you try this using Windows Vista, you must do this from an elevated Command Prompt window; type cmd in the Start menu Search box, right-click the Cmd.exe shortcut, and then choose Run As Administrator. For detailed instructions with screen shots, see this post.) After restarting her computer, she tried using IE8 again. The results were stunning:

WOW. That really made a difference. It made my performance faster and more stable. Tabs are opening faster and more consistently instead of spinning endlessly.

After several hours, my colleague reported that she was ready to give IE8 a second chance instead of “chucking it and going to Chrome out of frustration.”

Next page: Is IE8 bloated? –>

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Ed Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications.

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RE: Is IE8 really fat and slow?
JACOBSONR 14th Oct
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IE8 Should be your only browser.
xuniL_z 26th Mar 2009
To start with, I'm running Vista x64 on a core 2 duo with plenty of hp and it is much faster than IE7. Even there (as with all current browsers) the speed difference isn't of the earth shattering type, but quite an improvement.
I love the new features, the in-private browsing, web-slices, tab groups, the list goes on....oh yeah, some pretty neat add ons and hopefully we'll see a lot more of those.


Then couple this with the fact that IE simply blew away the field in it's ability to filter malware sites, making it the safest browser on Windows imho, it's my default and my every day browser
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... then I'd switch back from FireFox to IE.
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Re: AdBlocker & Flashbuster
vinnyboombatz 27th Mar 2009
IE7Pro. Haven't tested it on 8 yet, but it works flawlessly on 7
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I'm testing today
Ed Bott 27th Mar 2009
The IE7 Pro folks say it's compatible and I've heard ogthers say it works as well. I'll report back.
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I agree on that one. But like Google....
xuniL_z Updated - 27th Mar 2009
MS has vested interest in not blocking ads. Google and MS may find themselves pushed into it however when people start to migrate more heavily to FF. But so far, that FF marketshare seems to have peaked around 20% and has stayed there for a few years now.
- with IE8's InPrivate Filtering you can blocks advertising.
- the new IE8's add-ons management lets you to decide on which sites the Flash plug-in can run. You can have a different sites list for each add-on.
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Try GogoData
LegendsOfBatman 8th Apr 2009
It's an old app, and the co. is now defunct, and has been since 2005, BUT, it still works! Running Vista 64-buit, and it works! (depsite the claims from Windows it doesnt). Since i formatted the hard drive over the weekend, and reloaded it Sunday, it's killed 2210 flash and ads. It still works better than anything Ive seen, and can still be downloaded off ZD's sister site CNet. Google Gogo Data. or, Gogo Database. It's the only toolbar I dont hate.
The majority will stay with modern technology that adheres to real standards.
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majority will use IE
joeller 27th Mar 2009
The majority of users will be like my wife and use whatever browser comes with the machine or the software provide by the ISP. In her case that is IE6 and compuserve. Users don't want to work.
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REAL standards are those set by ...
mwagner@... 27th Mar 2009
... the number of people using them.

No matter how hard standards bodies try to insure interoperability, as long as vendors are competing for the hearts and minds of customers, they will continue to offer proprietary solutions in the hopes that customers will pick their products over other vendors' products.

No one complains about this until one vendor dominates. Then all those unsuccessful vendors start crying "foul". In the mean time, those customers have spoken and, no matter how hard standards bodies try to change things, ultimately customers decide which product best meet their needs.

Firefox is a good example of the non-dominate player making sufficient inroads to effect change in the dominate vendor's product.
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Yarp
WarhavenSC 30th Mar 2009
Which is why Flash is the standard for interactive webpage media
instead of something like JavaScript & CSS transforms. No one
company can decide how or what they'll implement with regard to
open standards, so in steps a company with a product that essentially
does what the open standards do (a la Flash & Silverlight); but because
it's not up to the browser (or even operating system) companies to
decide what works and doesn't*, it gains in popularity quite quickly
over open standards -- because, quite frankly, it'll more or less work
under every major browser whereas the open standards won't.

(( *It's up to the user who installs the company's plugin and the
developer of the technology who writes the plugin for your browser ))
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Again we see silly coments.
Cayble 27th Mar 2009
Horse and buggy technology? Sure. Its comments like that that show that a specific opinion was created out of unreasonable bias as opposed to facts.
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If you take the time to look at all my posts over time, you will see I have to "types" or "styles" of posts. Those for the extreme fanboys of the NBM variety, such as xunil above, loverock, ye, and a few others. they get the posts like the ones above. The rest get the normal posts which I use for fair opinions, discussions, and questions.

So if you don't fit into the NBM fanboy catagory, than my pst above was not meant for you.
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I Can Understand That, But
LegendsOfBatman 8th Apr 2009
Ok, that makes sense, and I can understand your reasoning, but, unless people follow your responses, they wont realize this; unless of course you state this.
Some fanboys we see ALL the time. Im not sure I remember seeing you. Just certain names stick; like the ones you mentioned. There are Linux and Mac fanboys too. Both sides of the extremeists tend to annoy me. Unless they offer valid reasoning to their posts. But often times, it's just a waste of time reading most responses. I tend to hate all sides of the extreme fanboy stuff, and hate reading anything they have to say. IMO and not so humble one, I have to say they do nothing more than fill these blogs with puke.
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Look in the mirror again....
linux for me 30th Mar 2009
And you will see the real loser....NBMer to the extreme.
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Is that so?
InAction Man 27th Mar 2009
What about real support for standards? Regarding standards compliance IE is definitely a very low end browser, bottom of the barrel in the browser market!

No to mention vulnerability to malware. Do you want to be the next malware victim? Then go ahead, stick with IE8.

You must have been struck with Hysterical Blindness.
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Oh, you didn't know?
xuniL_z Updated - 27th Mar 2009
You apparently need enlighted.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2981

A slice of the news for you:

A recently released NSS Labs study, claims that Internet Explorer 8 greatly outperforms competing browsers in terms of protecting users against web based malware.

And considering the browser with 70% of the market, with 4 others battling it out for a meager second place slot, defines THE standard, it's good to know that IE8 will work with both pure standards based sites and those that were designed for IE, which are heck of a lot of sites. And it can give you both on the fly with lightening fast page loads.

If you want to stick with code knocked off an old darpa project that was taxpayer funded by millions of Americans, feel free, your Grandpa, Father or perhaps you paid for it so you might as well.
You wrote:

"...considering the browser with 70% of the market, with 4 others battling it out for a meager second place slot, defines THE standard, it's good to know that IE8 will work with..."

Do you stand by that numbers? Given past evidence I bet you do.
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that numbers??
xuniL_z 28th Mar 2009
Do you stand by that numbers

Do you stand by that statements?


Ok, I obviously meant that IE has 70% marketshare, not IE8, but considering it will work with sites designed for earlier versions of IE and sites based on standards only, it gives one the most usable browser on the market.


No comment on the awesome smart filter IE8 has, which is schooling all other browser makers big time.


Why not forget your smart arse remarks and just go to slashdot and preach to the choir.
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How could this be?
donniebnyc666 27th Mar 2009
I am shocked, shocked to hear MS has released a browser with a security flaw.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/chats/transcripts/09_0325_ez_ie8.mspx

"we can say that the attack as demonstrated in Pwn2Own at CanSecWest will not succeed on the RTW build released on March 19 due to changes that can block the ASLR+DEP .NET bypass demonstrated by Dowd and Sotirov at BlackHat in 2008."
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Firefox is just as susceptible
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 27th Mar 2009
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Every Browser is subject to exploits
edwards.wb 27th Mar 2009
All of the current browsers are subject to exploits, and it is unlikely that one will ever be made that cannot be taken advantage of through malicious code. User configuration settings also have a lot to do with how well protected one is, how fast the browser will perform on specific hardware; depending on the end user, their technical experience, and what they're looking for, these configuration setting can mean the difference between a poor experience and an ideal experience.
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that flaws get fixed and IE8's smart filtering is working at staggering percentages compared to any other browser on the market.


http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2981


There you go, another huge reason to make IE8 your only browser. MS promised security and with Vista and IE they have delivered.


Oh, did you happen to notice this little story?


http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=3013


Just one of a growing number of Fireflox critical flaws. You know, I've not gone out and looked, but based on the daily zdnet news, and they never miss a single MS related flaw, while thousands of Ubuntu and other linux based systems get a free ride on flaws by the hundreds that you won't read here, but nonetheless show up almost daily on any vuln watch subscription, but I really think we are seeing more Firefox and Ubuntu flaws and OS X for certain with their Mega patch payloads every few months, than Vista or IE.

Funny thing but they really are better and safer now. Windows has always been a kick ass productivity/usability style system, which I don't think anyone the least bit objective or reasonable would deny but now security has come of age, as bill gates promised and it's damned good. I know you are probably not one that's going to admit it, based on your post, but we are seeing MS combine top shelf usability with security and the users are the beneficiaries of it.

I'm sure I'm talking to a deaf ear on that point, but the truth is the truth.
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Truth? You wouldn't recognize the truth if
InAction Man 28th Mar 2009
you were ran over by a truckload of truth.
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Well duh....
xuniL_z 28th Mar 2009
if I were run over by a truck, I'm sure the last thing I'd be worried about would be it's contents.

However, if you are saying that Vista and IE8 both don't show significant improvement by Microsoft in the area of security then you might as well just have a blinking sign attached to your head and pointing at it, saying contents lacks objectivity.
Or maybe "no contents" would be more appropriate for you.
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Pie in the sky
hasta la Vista, bah-bie 30th Mar 2009
Sure, they're responding faster than they normally would have. Then as soon as IE8 becomes widely adopted by the ignorant, then they'll be back to the same ol second Tuesday of the month. If that.
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I'll believe it when I see it
hasta la Vista, bah-bie 30th Mar 2009
Nothing they've done in the last 20 years would cause me to change my mind.
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It is...
storm14k 27th Mar 2009
"IE8 Should be your only browser"

...the only browser I don't use.
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Your post
xuniL_z 27th Mar 2009
is meaningless. At least I gave solid reasons why it should be at the very least tried out.

Oh, I have FF on all of my PCs.
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It is to me. IE8 is the only browser
InAction Man 28th Mar 2009
I don't use.
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I'd only have to use it...
hasta la Vista, bah-bie 30th Mar 2009
...to download that stupid ActiveX whenever I have to go to a Micro$haft website, which unfortunately happens occasionally.
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Will not touch it - ever
Economister 27th Mar 2009
I do not bend over naked in the presence of a tyrant / dictator
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but
Azathothh 27th Mar 2009
you will for Stallman, right?
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When i started my post below, yours was not there yet. You must have clicked "Add your comment" at almost the exact same time, just a little quicker.


Nice post btw.

happy
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Wow
xuniL_z 27th Mar 2009
you are so brainwashed you didn't even realize you are already doing it for RMS.
I bet that Freud could explain why you behave the way you do.
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Then you haven't...
Marty R. Milette 8th Jul 2009
been through a US airport recently and heard the snap of fresh latex donned by homeland security looking for hidden flash drives. happy
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But you are using x64 ...
mwagner@... 27th Mar 2009
... and I'd bet that IE8 takes advantage of that and IE7 may not. Nor, I'd guess, does the competition since x64 is still not widely leveraged (and probably won't be until 4GB systems are somewhat more common.).
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IE8 is 32-bit by default
Ed Bott 27th Mar 2009
Although there's a 64-bit IE version available, it's not used by default and no one I know actually uses it.

Btw, most recent stats I've seen show that Vista x64 is outselling x86 at retail.
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We are using IE8 x64 and.....
htotten 27th Mar 2009
It works GREAT! Not a single problem.
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Far too many sites I use, utilize flash player and still no 64 bit version last I checked, which was very recently.
The only site that doesn't that I've run into is the Ford Motor site. They have some really big flash presentations over their featuring the new Ford Fusion Hybrid. They really look stunning on a 61" HDTV. It really knocks my eyeballs out!

I can always fire up my 32bit IE 7 if I want the content. Maybe this new IE 8 compatibility mode will accomplish this easier?
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Thanks, Ed!
mwagner@... 27th Mar 2009
I didn't know that x64 was already starting to make serious in-roads into the desktop market. I'll be moving to x64 as soon as my new system arrives.

When you say "retail", do you mean shrink-wrapped Vista sales? If so, what about OEM sales (Dell, et al)? I haven't noticed much discussion about x64 on OEM sites selling desktops.

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Shrink Wrap
htotten 27th Mar 2009
We haven't tested x64 on a "shrink wrapped system" yet; however, we have a ton of customers who have. We actually, wipe out the system and install x64 from scratch because we develop our own products.

Based on what our customers say, x64 is the way to go.
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Most consumer PCs today
Ed Bott 27th Mar 2009
... in the non-budget lines from Dell, HP, etc. come with Vista x64.

Look at this Sunday's circulars in the paper for Staples, Best Buy, Office Max etc. You'll be surprised.

I should update this post from last summer:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=506
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I'm pretty sure...
JCitizen 5th Apr 2009
My friends said they got their x64 systems from Wallmart. Both DELLs and HPs.

RAM was only 4Gb though, but the price on that is getting really cheap. With a lot of people like me that want to produce HD digital movie cam video, I'm sure it will take all of it to author the DVDs and BDs.
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RE: Is IE8 really fat and slow?
JACOBSONR 14th Oct
Good day to confirm this comment I would appreciate T h e b e s t o f Z D N e t d e l i v e r e d your website very nice to everyone Yes, Oracle is the only one with shared-disk architecture, but that is there advantage. It means you can add or remove nodes and the database lives on. In a shared nothing architecture, if you lose a node, you lose the system. I'm sure Oracle appreciates EMC highlighting their advantage.I also desire to signal in your RSS feeds. Thank you as soon as once again and maintain up the great operate Awesome post! Thank you very much || thanks for nice content this is really benefit to me.

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