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Is it time for Apple to face an antitrust investigation?

By | December 17, 2009, 11:24am PST

Summary: Apple’s always had a reputation as a tight-lipped company, but now it’s under fire for being a bully as well. Today, the open-source VideoLAN Foundation claimed that Apple is actively trying to block its widely used multimedia playback program, VLC. Is it time for antitrust regulators to take a closer look?

[Update 18-December 8:00AM EST to include responses from VideoLAN Foundation spokespersons, including the manager of the VLC project.]

Apple’s always had a reputation as a tight-lipped company, but now it’s under fire for being a bully as well. A sensationalistic story in Gizmodo this week painted an alarming picture of Apple’s Worldwide Loyalty Team and its ruthless tactics for hunting down the sources of internal leaks. And now an upstart open-source developer claims that Apple is actively trying to block its widely used multimedia playback program, VLC.

For the past month or so, I’ve been alternating between Windows 7 and OS X Snow Leopard, as part of an experiment I first wrote about in September (see Can a Windows geek learn to love Snow Leopard?). Last week I used Snow Leopard full time, and one of the issues I ran into repeatedly was one I cited in that post last September. iTunes on the Mac won’t play back much of the music in my large media collection, because it doesn’t support the WMA or FLAC formats, and the alternatives are few and far between:

Converting all those tracks to alternate formats would take several days and isn’t an option, so for now I’m using VLC. It’s a perfectly adequate bare-bones playback program but a terrible library manager.

I’ve used VLC on the PC platform for years. It’s a great, lightweight playback program that deserves the praise it’s received for its performance and versatility. Coincidentally, tech analyst Michael Gartenberg noted earlier this week that the new Beatles collection comes in the lossless FLAC format and asked via Twitter what’s the best way to listen to those files on his Mac.

The answer is still VLC, and the limitations I cited in my September post are still there. But now there’s a new wrinkle. According to a number of Mac-oriented news sites, the open-source VLC project on the Mac is moribund, with the number of Mac developers “reported to have dwindled to zero.”

On its website, the VideoLAN Foundation says those reports are “greatly exaggerated.” The VLC team admits that the current graphical interface “is not being maintained at this time,” but says a new, more Mac-like version code-named Lunettes is under development, with a test release due in January.

What I found most interesting, though, was this terse but extremely pointed slap at Apple, dropped in at the end of the VLC team’s post:

Finally, we have a few issues, since Apple doesn’t want us on the Mac platform and is blocking us a lot, and refuses to explain why.

Really? Apple has a substantial investment in its iPod/iPhone/iTunes platform and makes huge profits there. Last week, the company bought Lala, which I identified last April as the best candidate to bust the iTunes monopoly. Buying and/or blocking competitors is the sort of thing that gets big companies into trouble with antitrust regulators. Just ask Microsoft, which earlier this week settled its long running antitrust case with the European Commission, after paying some $2 billion in fines. Or Intel, which is now the subject of a complaint by the FTC in the United States.

Update: Via e-mail VLC Manager Jean-Baptiste Kempf supplies more details about Apple’s actions:

Apple is still considering that VLC is potentially violating Mac OS’s license, and therefore has withdrawn VLC from apple.com/downloads, where we were on top of the downloads for years. This, of course, has slowed down our download rates on the mac.

The allegations that Apple did was that VLC was violating some QuickTime License, which is ridiculous, since we don’t use QuickTime.

For more than 2 and a half years, we have been trying to get apple to answer this potential allegations, and we have been answered by noone, with no response. We have tried to contact them more than a few times, of course, with no break-through.

Seeing how many downloads happen through apple.com/downloads, this is a big hit for us. Therefore, we have to consider that Apple considers VLC illegal on its platform and wants us out of this platform. Of course, this won’t block us from making great things in the future, because we have a few surprises coming in the next few months.

 Rémi Denis-Courmont, also of the VideoLAN Foundation, adds this comment in a separate e-mail:

Apple is the least cooperative of the operating system vendors at this point in time. It used to go very well with them. But then they threatened us with bogus copyright infringement claims.

Then they started pretending we did not exist. That is what JB referred to when he wrote “blocking”. To this day, we have no explanations why VLC has been unlisted from the official Apple downloads list.

Compare to Microsoft. They funded our Windows 7 compatibility program participation. Better yet, Linux and BSD distros typically do include VLC in their installable package list.

(As a developper, I’d further add that MacOS claimed POSIX support is but a bad joke. But that is obviously not a deliberate attempt from Apple at blocking VLC ;) )

The VideoLAN Foundation is organizing a developers conference that starts tomorrow in Paris. From there, it’s only a short train ride to Brussels and the European Commission offices. If Apple really is trying to shut down this open-source competitor, maybe a sit-down with the EC would do some good.

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RE: Is it time for Apple to face an antitrust investigation?
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It's way PAST time. (nt)
IT_Guy_z 17th Dec 2009
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Apple maybe feel they have to ...
CapitalismAteItself 17th Dec 2009
... play a bit like that to at least keep abreast with another large software company that is well know for such tactics.

No worries though, FOSS will grow slowly over, on, in and around them.

2010 onwards will be looked back upon as a software gold rush era for independents.
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Yes, and it's only fair.
ptcruisergt 17th Dec 2009
After all, they did it to Microsoft, so now it's Apple's turn.
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Seriously?
slappymctaint@... 17th Dec 2009
So just because a competitor got investigated, Apple should too? Who's
forcing you to buy from iTunes? It's a free download for both OS's. People
all up in arms against iTunes should move back to cd's then.

The biggest difference and why Apple hasn't been investigated is because
they make the hardware and the OS -unlike MS, who makes just the OS
and was monopolizing the market to force their browser on 3rd party
hardware. Apple makes both so they should be able to put their programs
on their hardware.

You don't have to use it if you don't want to.
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Im sure youre joking
Johnny Vegas 17th Dec 2009
Because it doesn't take any brains to know it's not just because a competitor got investigated. It's because of anti competitive behavior like the mentioned hindering an open source player alternative.

I didn't see anyone suggest apple not be allowed to put itunes on macs, just prevent them from stopping alternavtives from running as well.
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How are they stopping alternatives?
Bruizer 17th Dec 2009
By not answering questions? Killing people? Freezing funds of the open
source competitors?
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Contributr
Free download for both OS's?
Ed Bott Updated - 17th Dec 2009
Uh, no. iTunes is a free download on PCs but it is bundled with OS X and AFAIK cannot be removed.
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Ed needs a little Mac 101. Anyone else?
Arm A. Geddon 17th Dec 2009
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Huh?
Ed Bott Updated - 17th Dec 2009
The original post I replied to said iTunes was a free download for OS X. It's bundled with it.

And the link you provide says nothing about removing it from OS X.

Thanks, but not helpful. Now, if you had showed me this, you might have been helpful:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1224
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I thought maybe you could use some help.
Arm A. Geddon Updated - 17th Dec 2009
I wasn't sure how much you knew about OS X so I thought I would provide you a link. Sorry that I didn't explain myself better.

Btw, if you were new to Windows 7 I'd provide you with this one.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help

Or should I give them this one?

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Windows-7-Inside-Out/Ed-Bott/e/9780735626652

wink
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Not new to either, thanks
Ed Bott 17th Dec 2009
But I appreciate the plug.
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Simply drag to the trash...
Bruizer 17th Dec 2009
And poof. Gone.

You really need to learn the tool you are working on if you are going to
even attempt (fairly) to use it full time.
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Um, dude?
Ed Bott 17th Dec 2009
You're describing how to eliminate the alias, not the program itself. Sheesh.

I linked to Apple's instructions, which are c onsaiderably more complex. But thanks for the misguided condescension.
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Uh, no.
jct12 17th Dec 2009
That is the program itself. There is a background program, "itunes
helper," that opens on startup, and that is not as easy to find, but not
difficult. Look at the instructions again: to remove itunes, drag to the
trash.

How did you get this job? Seriously, how did you get this job?
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Ummm dude
SquishyParts 17th Dec 2009
"You're describing how to eliminate the alias, not the program itself.
Sheesh."
Nope...you are dragging the iTunes application to the trash not an alias.
Keep up sparky. You have no clue as to what you are talking about. The post
was essentially correct.
The iTunes helper, Some more hekp for ummmmm dude:
http://osxdaily.com/2009/09/10/ituneshelper-what-does-itunes-helper-
do/

1. Drag iTunes app to trash.
2. kill process for iTunes helper (which you don't even need)
3. Turn off Login in item (start up item for the Windows impaired.
4. Empty trash. Itunes go bye. bye.
I guess this is complicated for some.
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Contributr
It is much more than just "drag it to the trash."

But thanks for your help.
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Nice attempt at redirection, Ed.
msalzberg 18th Dec 2009
Let's start from the beginning:

You claimed iTunes couldn't be deleted. You were told it could be,
and then, quite condescendingly, told us all that you knew what you
were talking about.

It was then shown that you did not know what you were talking about;
iTunes can indeed be deleted. Your next step is to talk down to those
who proved you wrong, because the method of deletion was a bit
more than they stated.

Just admit you were wrong; iTunes can be deleted. Whether it
takes one step or fifty, you were wrong, and your condescending
attitude really makes you look foolish.

I'd suggest leaving Apple matters to those who know what they're
talking about, because this exchange shows that you certainly don't.
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@sceptical
Badgered 18th Dec 2009
Just admit you were wrong; iTunes can be deleted. Whether it takes one step or fifty, you were wrong, and your condescending attitude really makes you look foolish.

Talk about condescending attitudes...

He said, and I quote: and AFAIK cannot be removed: emphasis mine.

AFAIK, meaning as far as I know. Which also means to the extent that I have knowledge on this subject... which also means there might be more to know. He already admitted he might not know everything about the removal. What more do you want?
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I said AFAIK
Ed Bott 18th Dec 2009
I stand corrected.
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@badgered and @ed
msalzberg Updated - 18th Dec 2009
I did not mean to be condescending. In rereading my post, I still don't
see it as such, but if you took it that way, I apologize.

It was this line that got to me: "You're describing how to eliminate the
alias, not the program itself. Sheesh."

I agree that the "AFAIK" inoculated Ed from criticism for being
incorrect originally. It was his attempted put-downs of those who
were actually correct that put him over the line.

Ed, I appreciate that you admit that you were wrong.

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What I was responding to
Ed Bott 18th Dec 2009
Here is the ENTIRE comment I responded to:

"Simply drag to the trash... And poof. Gone."

This is what my "sheesh" was responding to.

Simply drag WHAT to the trash? First I have to stop a service, and then I have to locate an auto-start item. There are some additional preference files that have to be deleted as well.

And as for condescending? Here's what was in the comment I was responding to:

"You really need to learn the tool you are working on if you are going to
even attempt (fairly) to use it full time."

Yes, and that is exactly what I am trying to do. If you read my original post from September you'll see that I asked the community for help and received a fair amount of it. Nice counterweight to the haters.

I am perfectly willing to admit when I make an error. But if someone wants to come in here and leave a condescending comment they can expect a response in kind.
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That link is a little overblown...
lostarchitect 18th Dec 2009
You don't really need to kill itunes helper
(when you
restart it'll be gone anyway) and most of those
steps
are overly descriptive. In plain english, this
is how
to delete itunes from OSX:

1. Delete the itunes app from the applications
folder.
2. Turn off itunes helper in startup items (in
system
preferences)
3. restart.

That's all, it's very easy. In my experience,
itunes
helper isn't even always in the startup items.
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Official Apple documentation
Ed Bott 18th Dec 2009
You're saying it's "overblown"?
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Yes. Was I confusing?
lostarchitect 18th Dec 2009
I'm not criticizing you for posting it, I'm just
saying that (like many sets of instructions) it
makes it seem like the operation is more complex
than it really is. It's pretty easy to delete a
program on OSX (usually).
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@ed.......
msalzberg 18th Dec 2009
I read your posts as using a different tone of voice than you felt you were
writing in. That's always a problem with non-verbal communications.
Sorry for the snark.
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Sheesh.
buddhistMonkey 20th Dec 2009
((( "You're describing how to eliminate the alias, not the program itself.
Sheesh." )))

You're wrong. Emphatically, ridiculously, embarrassingly wrong. The
icons in the Applications folder are the actual programs, not aliases. To
delete them, you throw them in the Trash. It has ALWAYS been that way.
Yes, there may be additional files that you'd need to remove to
completely uninstall any given program, but that's beside the point:
what Bruizer wrote was essentially correct, and what you wrote back
was absurd.

Your opinions about Apple have always been off-base, but now I know
that your deep, belligerent ignorance of their platform is to blame. Honestly, you shouldn't be writing about Apple or OS X with such a
pathetically weak knowledge base. You embarrass yourself and your
employer. I hope you wake up every day and thank your deity of choice
that whoever signs your paycheck at ZDNet is even less-informed than
you are.
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Please show me where...
Ed Bott Updated - 20th Dec 2009
...the words "Applications Folder" were written in the comment I replied to. Here is the entire post:

"Simply drag to the trash...
And poof. Gone."

There is an iTunes alias on the dock. An impartial observer (not you, obviously) might think this is what was being referred to.

Thanks for sharing your thoughtful opinion.
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Huh?
Rick_K 24th Feb 2010
You are not serious, are you? You're describing how to eliminate the
alias, not the program itself. Sheesh.

To delete the program it self you drag it to the trash and empty the
trash. It has been that way for the last decade. What you wrote is
nothing more than misinformation.
How abbot this:

"In the Finder, choose Go > Applications.
Locate iTunes and then drag it to the Trash."
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1224

I took this form the link you provided!
Here's a good question. How do you completely remove windows
media player from a windows machine? Answer: you cannot!
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What?
SquishyParts 17th Dec 2009
Why can't I uninstall iTunes? This statement is total clueless BS.
Maybe that's why a link was given to you to Mac 101. How exactly did
you get this job?
Maybe this will make it clearer for you:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1224
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Wow
Ed Bott 17th Dec 2009
I posted the same link as you, only a few hours earlier.

Pay attention!
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WOWzzzzzzie!!! WOW!!!!
SquishyParts 17th Dec 2009
You made the statement to begin with. Why did you make the ignorant
post to begin with? You obviously should have checked your facts before
responding to something you know nothing about. Anyone that has
worked on a Mac for any amount of time knows that most applications
are contained in a single package & can be dragged to the trash, unlike
Windows that spews crap all over your hard drive.
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The one where Apple tells you how to delete the "crap all over your hard drive" that Apple spews?
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@rtk
Axsimulate Updated - 18th Dec 2009
or you could pop open the terminal and type this in one line...

rm -rf ~/Library/iTunes ; rm ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iTunes* ;
rm ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.iTunes* ; rm
/Applications/iTunes.app


and be done.

I wouldn't call 4 locations "spewed" all over the HD. Very unlike Windows.
Most of the files are user preferences.
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@ Axsimulate
rtk 18th Dec 2009
I wouldn't call 4 locations "spewed" all over the HD

I wouldn't call the support page, the command you posted, or four different locations as "contained in a single package & can be dragged to the trash" either.

Both store preferences apart from data and binaries, in more than one physical location.
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@rtk
Axsimulate Updated - 13th Jan 2010
You could just drag the iTunes icon from the Applications folder to the trash and be done with it. It's really not necessary to remove the preference files. Heaven forbid we leave a 16k file on a 1TB HD eating all that space. In short it would take you less than a minute or two to manually remove iTunes from OS X.
Compare that with trying to manually remove iTunes or any other app from Windows. How many hours do you have to search through the registry to remove all the entries? or the Windows folder? That is what I called spewed all over the place.
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@Axsimulate
Rama.NET 26th Feb 2010
>>Compare that with trying to manually remove iTunes or any other app
from Windows. How many hours do you have to search through the
registry to remove all the entries? or the Windows folder? That is what I
called spewed all over the place.

Well, it is very easy to uninstall from Windows machine than deleting the
program. Goto control panel/Add Remove Programs/ and then select the
program you want to uninstall.

--Ram--
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Well ED..
mrlinux Updated - 18th Dec 2009
It can be removed.
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Yes it can
Ed Bott 18th Dec 2009
Although the main point of the original comment was that it is a free download for both OS's, and my response is that it is bundled in OS X. That's still true.
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Spot the goof time...
johnmckay 17th Dec 2009
Everything you say is a reason FOR. I want to try mac os but I'm not buying a mac for that, and I'm not alone by any means. Why buy something and be tied into other products?

And your argument about forcing browsers is just plain dumb. The European thing is a painless sham that suits everyone. Nobody was ever tied to IE even if it was on the PC. Now we'll all just have to waste time downloading it and installing it. Make no mistake.. most folk are totally uninterested in who makes Chrome, Safari, Firefox, IE. We just want something simple to BROWSE the web. It's a tool to an end result; it's no big deal; we don't go to bed dreaming we can one day use Safari without IE being there.

Me.. I use IE 95%, I use Firefox to remote connect from time to time, and I use Firefox on my forays into SUSE Linux. So long as I see what I want, I don't care what I use.

All I now want to do is load mac os on my PC but Apple tinker enough to stop me, just for the sake of it. It's dumb in my view. MS got where they are today by allowing free use (literally for many years) and have built up a huge market share. Apple could learn but no doubt won't. I'm now using Linux more, and hope that continues across the market.
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Apple makes the hardware?
uberclocker 17th Dec 2009
They don't make a darn thing any more than any PC manufacturer does. Mac's are assembled out the same OEM parts as PC's such as Intel Core 2 Duo or i7/ATI or Nvidia graphics/DDR2 or DDR3 memory etc. and so forth. The difference is a Mac are extremely limited in hardware upgrade options. Oh and the ungodly price you pay for those same parts. Oh and Mac's don't support crossfire or SLI. Oh and... Well just fill in the blank at your leisure.
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Behold the ignorant poster
frgough 18th Dec 2009
All manufacturers, even your beloved auto maker uses parts turned out
by third parties where it makes economic sense.

Apple makes their own hardware in the sense that they design their own
motherboards, cases, and how it all fits together. And a little FYI a
motherboard is more than a CPU and chipset. It's also resistors,
capacitors, diodes, etc.

Apple then contracts a factory to turn out their design.

They make their own hardware. Deal with it.
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Behold the ignorant poster
uberclocker Updated - 18th Dec 2009
The definition of hardware as it refers to computers is that it is the physical components that make the whole. They design certain components they don't "make" anything. Years ago we had "IBM clones". Now they are simply PC's assembled and designed by dozens of different companies out of again OEM parts.

This is the future of Apple. Deal with it.
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Ah, but consider this...
kaninelupus 20th Dec 2009
MS bundling of IE (which you also don't have to use, given the alternative browsers) still landed them in hot water.

Apple Corp has been a thug for a long time, using scare tactics to maintain a strangle-hold to try and prevent any unwanted innovation on their platform, and using advertising campaigns which are based off ridiculing the competition rather than highlighting any of their own features/benefits. Any of the usual Mactards raving on about MS's behaviour over the last decade and a half should spend a little time more closely examining the deeds of Apple Corp, and stop making excuses which you would never make for MS.

As to "You don't have to use it if you don't want to. " Tell that to every iPod/iPhone user who can't use anything but iTunes (which is a bloated horror as ported to the PC, and forget trying to use on Linux!)... who are indeed forced to use it!

It's about time the gloves came off... long overdue!
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Apple is a cult
P. Douglas Updated - 17th Dec 2009
I think it is going to be difficult to go after Apple. When Apple makes the same blunders as MS or do much worse things, the blogging community echo chamber becomes quiet. Also the Apple fan boys go out in force, reprimanding those who are complaining.

I'm still mystified at how iTunes grew in popularity under DRM music. My experience with iTunes DRM music was terrible, and comparable to MS' own DRM music. Yet people either complained about MS' DRM music, and / or stayed away from it back in the day. Virtually not a peep came from the iTunes community concerning the inconveniences of Apple's DRM music. Apple really does appear to have some kind of reality distortion field going on there.
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Go after Apple!
Starman35 17th Dec 2009
That, if it happens, will be a long overdue step. As a long-term PPC Mac
user, I have become a jaded, highly annnoyed user. I have a lot of
DRM'ed music that required a great deal of trouble to get to work
elsewhere after my iPod died, & Apple's response: buy it again! I hope
they get a big judgement against them!
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Because they were 2 different things
SquishyParts Updated - 17th Dec 2009
Itunes grew in popularity because it was the least restrictive DRM on the planet at the time by far & it did
not have variable pricing like Janus MS's DRM. It also allowed you to burn your own CDs to popular
formats including MP3. Janus was a much more draconian DRM. You seem to not remember the state of
Music & DRM before iTunes...it was a joke. In MS's world the music was sold at variable pricing & the DRM
was different for different songs. In other words on track could be listened to on your computer but, not
burned to CD. Another track might allow you to listen to it on 2 different computers, cost more & could
only be burned 3 times. A complicated, anti-consumer/pro record company mess. To try to say that they
were the same things is naive. MS even dropped support for MP3's at that time trying to kill the format off
& replace it with WMA. A big mistake.. MS makes money selling software & DRM schemes, at least it
wanted to until iTunes. They had no music store at the time & sold NO digital music player. Now they are
following the same business model as Apple. When iTunes came out all songs were 99 cents, You could
burn a playlist up to ten times, which could easily be maneuvered around by changing the order of the
playlist. You could have your music on up to 5 different computers & it supported most popular formats
including MP3 & WAV. You don't have to but an iPod to use iTunes & never have to buy on damn song from
the iTunes store. AAC is not Apple's proprietary Format ,unlike WMA, it is MP4. The Fairplay DRM could
easily be stripped from any song by burning it to CD & importing it back into iTunes. There it could be
formated into MP3, WAV, AIFF, unprotected AAC, etc. They also built an easy to use music store. Apple is
the main reason that there is NO DRM on music anymore. They won the format war with MS & competition
is better off for it. Apple is not stopping anyone from building competing products.
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No, No Ed......
OhTheHumanity Updated - 17th Dec 2009
This isn't true. Mac is only doing this for your good interest. Not their's. I mean Apple is like the only philanthropic company out there and in no way would they ever do anything to harm your choices. Its all about helping you and making your life easier. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I love seeing developers getting shunned in the name of our good interest. I am sure all those developers out there understand its for the good of you and me and this is why they understand and respect Apple as being the greatest, most ethical company on the planet.
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You're a little confused
yeshuawatso 17th Dec 2009
Contrary to your belief (and I hope you're being facetious) that Apple is doing things for your
own good is just wrong. This statement would imply that
Apple knows what's best for the 6 billion people of the
world. You wouldn't tolerate the government dictating
how you live your life, why would you trust an
organization that purposely uses tactics to stifle any
competition to dictate how you use the products you buy?

Examples:
1.) Apple would scream bloody hell if Microsoft
prevented iTunes from running on Windows, but they make
it near impossible for Windows Media Player (wma and
wmv) formats to run (properly) on Macs. And let's not
get started with the many attempts they've made to
prevent iTunes from running in any manner on Linux.

2.) Apple applies a standard that it's OK if they
use open source software in their products, but you're
only allowed to use their proprietary software or void
your warranty. Even worse, modify the open source components in any way, and suddenly you become a second
rate customer. This is especially true with the iPhone
and iPod. Apple's use of open source software is to make
their products cheaper to develop, but the cost savings
are never passed down to the consumer. I
guess your best interest is to pay for software they
received for free. What's really ironic, is how so many
open source developers and supporters seem to overlook
this behavior.

3.) Apple is the only computer manufacture on the planet
that will give you the instructions to install a
competitor's operating system (and was forced to do so
by customer demand), only to shun their customers to the
wolves when they need support. This message is pretty
clear: Use our OS, or don't bother us if you need help.
This forces Microsoft and any Linux distro to attempt to
provide support for hardware that they can't write a
driver for without being sued by Apple. This is not
in the best interest of the consumer


4.) Apple forces consumers to use their products for
their digital distributions without regard to contracts
Apple previously agreed to with other device
manufacturers. Apple rejected all Palm devices after
they began to compete with Palm (remember Palm was in
the handheld and cellphone market well before Apple)
because Apple prefers that your best interests
are using only their products. They did the same thing
to Motorola too, but Motorola decided to get even with
the Droid rather than complain about it.

Apple doesn't give a rats butt about your best interest,
only the interest of the company's. Your best interest
are for you to decide and not anyone else's. It's when a
company purposely limits your ability to choose for
yourself is when they've broken anti-trust laws.

I hope you were being sarcastic.
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SquishyParts 17th Dec 2009
1. "Apple would scream bloody hell if Microsoft
prevented iTunes from running on Windows, but they make
it near impossible for Windows Media Player (wma and
wmv) formats to run (properly) on Macs. And let's not
get started with the many attempts they've made to
prevent iTunes from running in any manner on Linux."

http://www.ehow.com/how_5197743_download-itunes-linux-
ubuntu.html

Apple doesn't stop MS from writing software for the Mac,,,IF MS made
windows media player for the Mac apple would not stop that. It's MS's
decision not to make their media player available for the Mac along with
Outlook, Access, IE. It was MS that killed IE & the Media player for the Mac.
Why should Apple pay MS to license proprietary formats (WMA, WMV)? This
is just an ignorant statement.

http://developer.apple.com/opensource/server/streaming/index.html

2. Apple contributes to Open source projects....Webkit (which aslo used bt
DROID & Google's Chrome), Darwin, GCD, etc.

3. Total tin foil hat BS. Why should they support Windows isn't that MS's
job? Most people that own a Mac don't run Windows...I'm not sure where
you got the customer demand BS from. It's a small percentage of the base.
Apple is not a MS OEM.

4. More nonsense & total BS. More like Palm's lack of syncing software for
the Mac. It had to be handled by third party developers. What exactly did
they do to Motorola? Partnered with them on the PPC chip only to get half
assed attempts at advancing the tech.

"Apple doesn't give a rats butt about your best interest,
only the interest of the company's. Your best interest
are for you to decide and not anyone else's. It's when a
company purposely limits your ability to choose for
yourself is when they've broken anti-trust laws."

What Choice have they stopped you from making, exactly?
If you don't want to buy an Apple product...Don't. Go buy something else
Apple is not stopping you from buying a competitor's product. Welcome to
capitalism junior. The Newton pre-dated anything at Palm. Motorola made
a half ass phone the ROKR & the market spoke, them motorola dropped
the support. Linux is free & no one's buying...why is that? Of course Linux
doesn't borrow anything from anywhere else, right?
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WMA and WMV are proprietary Microsoft formats. Why should
Apple pay to use them, when they can use industry standard
formats
, such as AAC?
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