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Latest filings in Oracle patent case spell trouble for Google

By | September 7, 2011, 6:54pm PDT

Summary: Newly released documents from Oracle’s copyright and patent lawsuit against Google contain sections that Google’s lawyers fought unsuccessfully to keep confidential. The details support Oracle’s claim that Google copied Java code, and one slide is certain to make Android OEMs nervous.

The latest documents filed in Oracle’s copyright and patent lawsuit against Google contain more than a dozen chunks of information that Google’s lawyers fought to keep confidential. They lost, and the result is some embarrassing and possibly damaging disclosures.

Two documents filed yesterday were made public today and first reported by Florian Mueller on his FOSS Patents blog.

The most interesting revelations are in a 290-page report from Oracle’s expert witness, John C. Mitchell, Ph.D. Dr. Mitchell, a Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University and a heavyweight in programming circles whose work is incorporated in both the Java and .NET programming languages, was hired by Oracle (at a rate of $800 per hour) to testify on Google’s alleged infringement of Oracle’s copyrights and patents on Java, which it acquired when it purchased Sun in 2009.

Oracle’s most damning accusation is that Google directly copied Java source code for use in Android. The new documents directly address those claims.

[Confused by the claims and counter-claims in this case? See my follow-up: The real history of Java and Android, as told by Google]

A total of 12 sections in Prof. Mitchell’s report were marked as GOOGLE ATTORNEYS’ EYES ONLY or GOOGLE CONFIDENTIAL. Here’s a sampling of what Google wanted to redact:

  • “[A]ccording to Google’s records, a number of Google employees and contractors who worked on Android previously had access to Sun’s Java code.” One, Joshua Bloch, “was an architect of the Java platform at Sun [and] now works for Google … his name appears in the source code of several Java library files.”
  • “When asked about the significance of copyright protection for the specifications he wrote at Sun, Bloch replied: ‘[I]f someone else were to take this prose and publish it for profit, Sun would probably be upset, and with good reason.’”
  • Google exec Patrick Brady, in a June 2009 document titled “Android Strategy and Partnerships Overview,”  is quoted as saying “Android isn’t a new product to monetize; it’s a new medium to drive monetization on existing products.”
  • In a deposition, Bloch was asked whether he accessed Sun code while working at Google. “I don’t have a recollection, but I’m perfectly willing to believe that I did. You know, I think the similarity of the signature, the fact that, you know, the three arguments are in the same order and have the same name, you know, is a strong indication that it is likely that I did.”

One lengthy five page section of the expert witness report, marked as GOOGLE ATTORNEYS’ EYES ONLY, contains a slide from an internal Google presentation titled Android OC Quarterly Review – Q4 2010, by Andy Rubin et al. (Rubin runs the Android division at Google):

The section contains multiple quotes from confidential Google emails dating back as far as 2007 and documenting Google’s intention to create a full-fledged ecosystem based on the Java programming language. But Google has to be embarrassed by the second and third bullet points in that slide. “Do not develop in the open” contradicts Google’s oft-stated description of the platform. This, for example, was the company’s public statement earlier today in response to to an antitrust raid in South Korea:

Android is an open platform, and carrier and OEM partners are free to decide which applications and services to include on their Android phones.

Likewise, the explicit statement that Google gives “early access to the [Android] software to partners who build and distribute devices to our specification” is potentially troubling. The quid pro quo? “They get a non-contractual time to market advantage and in return they align to our standard.”

Play by Google’s rules, and you get an advantage in the market. Try to innovate, and you’ll start the race in second place.

The mention of Motorola is especially troubling given Google’s plans to buy the handset maker. Google’s previous reference devices, the Nexus One and Nexus S, were from HTC and Samsung, respectively.

In a separate lawsuit involving Motorola and Microsoft, Google stated last month that Android contains “highly proprietary source code that Google does not even share with its partners, such as Motorola.” The new admission that Motorola has “early access” is certain to be disturbing to other OEM partners.

The second document, also filed yesterday, contains 13 exhibits—email messages and a slide deck—dating back to 2005 and early 2006. They trace the history of Google’s negotiations with Sun over open-sourcing the Java code for use in Android. The final exhibit is an e-mail from Andy Rubin to Google founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page and Senior VP Alan Eustace:

I’ve been working with Sun and pushing them to open source Java … [T]hey have conceptually agreed to open java and additionally they desire to broaden the relationship and become a customer of the Android ecosystem and Google. Their desire is to create a “distribution” of the Android system ala Redhat. … This is a huge step for Sun, and very important for Android and Google.

That agreement never happened, of course, and Oracle argues that the Java code was so important to Google that they simply copied it.

As this case unfolds, I am continually reminded of another company that dominated its industry until hubris, as documented in internal emails and other documents, brought it down to earth. Google’s lawyers and executives need to take a weekend and study the history of U.S. v. Microsoft to learn what not to do.

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RE: Latest filings in Oracle patent case spell trouble for Google
THUFIR.HAWAT 16th Oct
@Gabriel Hernandez It's not really about the patents, but the copyright violations. All Google had to was to comply with the GPL and there would be patent issues.
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This seems to be a pattern here.

PS. And in other news...
@Return_of_the_jedi

If you've seen Mad Men you won't be suprised. This is primarily an advertising company, not a software development one.
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Indeed there is
guihombre Updated - 8th Sep
"[A]ccording to Googles records, a number of Google employees and contractors who worked on Android previously HAD access to Suns Java code"

'Had' is past tense, one step different from what they're trying to prove.

"When asked about the significance of copyright protection FOR THE SPECIFICATIONS"

Specification not code? One step different from the thing they're claiming was copied.

"Android isnt a new product to monetize; its a new medium to drive monetization on existing products."

You're supposed to ignore the second part and read the first as 'it's a copy not new'... one sub-clause away from what he actually said.

"...Im perfectly willing to believe that I did. You know, I think the similarity of the signature, the fact that, you know, the three arguments are in the same order and have the same name, you know, is a strong indication that it is likely that I did"

'Willing to believe', I'm willing to believe in the existence of little green men. But I don't. Again one step away from what they wanted him to say.

"Do not develop in the open"
'Open' but not 'open source', one word different. Because open source software is often developed in secret.

"[T]hey have conceptually agreed to open java.."
Java 2 standard edition platform (from which their array claim stems) is GPL'd, so Sun did open Java in the only way that matters.
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Good points.
JohnVoter 8th Sep
@guihombre
Particularly good point about the difference between open source and developing code in front of an audience.
@guihombre

Good points, but I think they represent some wishful thinking on your part. Google fought hard to prevent this information from coming forward, and there were good reasons for them doing so. If this case were being tried in the court of public opinion, they would have fought against the information coming forward to reduce the likelihood of negative public perception - they're a publicly held company - even if the information was, from a technical perspective, not damning. That would have been reason enough to prevent the information from coming forward. Unfortunately for them, it's being tried in the judiciary and they were clearly interested in keeping the information out of the evidence files to prevent a broad array of tech-savvy folks involved in the case from seeing that their business practices have been questionable at best. Parsing sentences as a defense is sometimes a reasonable tactic, but the courts will have little patience for it. They'll look for intent, and Google will find themselves having to decide how far to let this progress. It's also important to remember that this isn't a new issue that recently surfaced. It's been around for years. Here's a link to a good discussion back in 2007 re the same subject. The platform was new and raised questions then. It's just taken some time for the legal ramifications to fully surface. http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/11/05/android-the-gpl-and-java-the-qs-with-no-as/
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@Return_of_the_jedi
...unlike SCO!
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google is not M$
The Linux Geek 8th Sep
@Return_of_the_jedi
and the copyright allegations are flat lies peddled by the axis of evil software companies.
@The Linux Geek
And you're trapped in the 90'$.

The copyright allegations are valid and true otherwise it would have never made it to court in the first place. Good to see you're the all knowing when it comes to law, I'm sure that's your profession right? Yeah about that... There is no axis of evil aside of Google trying to rip off other peoples innovations. Google is a pile of trash and needs to be hauled off to the dump.

Understand that if people were never acknowledged or rewarded for their innovations there would be a lack of motivation to innovate. Google only takes what others have worked so hard to provide and copy it then insert spyware to steal your information and shove advertisements in people's faces that no one really cares about aside of Google as they make money off the advertising companies which are stupid enough to think it actually produces business. It is a cash cycle that appears successful but in the end when people avoid all advertisements because they are so sick of them we will then see everyone drop the advertising bubble. How many people DVR T.V. to also* fast forward past commercials? I would have to say every friend of mine thus far... I don't even pay for television as I buy my movies to avoid any stupid advertisements and have what I want when I want it. If I want news I hop online and I have other things to avoid stupid pop ups and obnoxious adverts.

As I've said a million times over... I love Linux but do not condone Google's horrible shady practices. I'd rather pay $150 for an OS that is ad free and does everything I want then to sacrifice all of my identity and individuality and have ads crammed in my face for some half baked playskool kids garbage.

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@audidiablo - Gotta agree with that - anybody who sees hard work being devalued definitely saps the desire to innovate...
@Return_of_the_jedi

Yeah, Florian Mueller just hates Android on a daily basis and tries to sound sophsticated in order to scare people into a direction. These lawsuits will take YEARS to resolve, not at the speed Florian Muller blogs at.
Such a very useful article. Very interesting to read this article.thank you
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I've been saying forever Google is the new Microsoft. They stick their hands in everything, trying to do so much at once, they're making a mess of their business. They are going to need to scale back and focus on quality, design and security. Android is what Windows Mobile used go be except with significantly better hardware and increasing malware infection risks.
@WixosTrix Google is 10 times worse than Microsoft ever was. Couple this, with the fact that this is a company with an atrocious privacy record, a company who reads people's email(electronically of course), and buys and sells personal user data for profit. Don't even get me started on the anti-trust issues they are facing in search, and in youtube with Microsoft buy not allowing them access to metadata, while they do for other companies.

They deserve everything that is going to happen to them.
@jhammackHTH

So far every anti trust case bought against Google has failed. I do not think the FTC one will be any different.
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@WixosTrix
The open garden model of software is probably on its way out. But Android is essential to Google's future, when no one uses a desktop machine, or even a laptop, to do a search.
@WixosTrix

At least Microsoft has a product to sell where Google just steals everything.
@audidiablo ... they are also evil.
We get that you hate google. We don't care.
This discussion is about facts. Got any?
Otherwise stop cluttering up the real discussion.
@audidiablo You are aware that Microsoft stole a lot of ideas and designs from Apple back in Windows 3.0/3.1 right? While Google may have developed on top of the Java platform, the Android OS is still their own.
@radleym Could be wrong but I believe I have seen you spread your fair share of FUD about Apple.
@audidiablo - there's an irony...
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Ed, you use to write about tech stuff, but it seems that you have been relegated to this.

Leave quoting FM to Rachel King. Don't lower/waste your skills with tabloid tech. Hence no skills required.
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Excuse me?
Ed Bott 7th Sep
@Return_of_the_jedi

The only quotes in this post are from legal documents filed with the court in the aforementioned legal action. I have no idea what you are referring to when you say "quoting FM," and I don't think you do either.
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FM = Florian Mueller
wackoae Updated - 7th Sep
@Ed Bott Fandroids hate the man because he is being RIGHT 100% about the Google vs Oracle case.

They don't want you to quote facts that show Google stole from others.
@Wackoae
I'm certainly not an an Android fan. Oracle's case is bird-dirt. Trying to copywrite functional elements, and pretend that checking for compatibility with Java is a crime.
@Ed Bott

Don't sweat it Ed... Return_of_the_jedi is just feeling upset... Inferiority Complexes can do this. Apparently he isn't that bright at all as this is directly related to "tech stuff" or better yet technology. He's just butt hurt because you make an excellent point and have evidence to back it... Since he can't prove anything otherwise he only knows to attack you to try and make him feel better about himself. This just proves just about anything coming from him can easily be skipped as jargon.
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@Ed Bott .. So let's get this straight
thx-1138_@... Updated - 8th Sep
.. you're primary, self proclaimed role is as a MS expert / blogger / informer (.. sorry, i meant 'Information ambassador'), and suddenly .. miraculously .. you have airtime enough (and concern and compassion enough [sic]) to report on OSS? What's your caper in blogging about a company you obviously couldn't give a monkey's about?

To top it off, you insult the collective intelligence of the readers here by trying to play dumb (..which by the way, if there were Oscar nominations for tabloid, trashy swill, than you'd be a shoe in) or innocent?

" ... Googles lawyers and executives need to take a weekend and study the history of U.S. v. Microsoft to learn what not to do. "

.. now really? That about summarizes your angle to a tee: a h3ll bent, anti-F/OSS blogger with a history for defamation and FUD propagation on a shameless scale.

Some advice: if you're going to start flinging the brown stuff (mixed with a hefty dose of half-truths, innuendo and sensationalized, glorified gossip) please don't get all precious and defensive when it gets flung back in your sorry face.

If, on the other hand, you've a problem playing big boy games Ed ... then tough titties, grow a pair and suck it up.
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somereader 9th Sep
@Ed Bott
A list of information presented as damaging for Google because it objected to it's release.
But why would it be damaging? In a litigation? Which one? Oracle-Google? About patents or copyright? Why? (Where are all the copied files?)
Or damaging from a PR point of view? For who? And why? (Why would it not be open if it is only open when it is distributed?)
Or damaging in the relation with partners? Why?
Without that I think it is to early to comment.
What is funny, I think it was you that in your search for problems with Android commented (and even advised) on what Google should do to get money from Android and how it can keep equipment makers in line. Well it may not be your advice, but now you have some answers.
Hello Ed? Not sure if you realize it but Java was Open Sourced Years Ago! It still exists in the form of OpenJDK and Oracle cannot remove the current license.

Regardless, the only thing that Google would have done wrong is not release the updated code and that is easily remedied.

As far as certain partners having early access to code, that is no secret as Google always picks one vendor to create its Flagship Product and they work with that Vendor straight through!

I am not sure if the Original Droid was one such example but the Nexus One, Nexus S (4G), and Motorola XOOM all had their respective companies working with Google ahead of the official Code Release. Did you think that Google wouldn't want to control that process?

Ass for Florian Mueller, he's a no skill, no talent Ass!
@Peter Perry Sun did not open source the entire Java source code. Oracle is contesting that Google has copied the non open source code in Java.
@browser. Yes they did! Years ago with Java 2! OpenJDK and the open source community got it in shape.
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@Peter Perry. It is very well known that JavaME was NEVER open source and any 3rd party code (in JavaSE) was never delivered as part of the GPLv2.0 release.

That fact was talked to death everywhere and it is part of the Oracle vs Google case.
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jhammackHTH Updated - 7th Sep
@jhammackHTH I did read the article, where do you think I got the points to refute... Maybe should prove it is BS but once you step away from the RDF you see I am making sense.

Oh, here's an article for you...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-07/htc-sues-apple-alleging-infringement-of-four-u-s-patents.html
@Ed Bott I will wait for some type of real legal article and not a tech blog before recanting anything.
@Peter Perry But JavaME was NEVER open source.

Guess what code Google stole?
@wackoae Not sure 100% of that is actually true, some yes but I doubt it was all J2ME code as the Dalvik Cache is heavily customized.
@Peter Perry

Not sure 100% of that is actually true, some yes but I doubt it was all J2ME code as the Dalvik Cache is heavily customized.

"Some" or "All" doesn't really matter, does it. If "some" of the code being used in Android was from an unlicensed source, then Android infringes, doesn't it?
@Peter Perry

Give it up Peter Perry. You consistently make up your own world view to fit your wishes. Sun reserved rights for specific applications requiring a license. There are blocks of Android Dalvik cod that are 100% identical to Sun Java code when they do not have to be. The only thing that changed is the header.

Google got caught really bad on this one. As a company, Google has has built its existence on devaluing all original content (from books to news to music to software to photography to...) to force any value of original content to be linked through to their ad engines.

Their future vision for the world looks dark and bleak.
@Bruizer

Maybe not so bleak if you buy Canadian drugs.
@Bruizer
Now a compatibility test suite is copywritable, and Google will probably be held accountable for it, but apparently it was only a small portion of the test suite, and, more interestingly, this code is not part of the body of code that places calls, receives calls, or is present in the Android phones themselves.
@Peter Perry

Regardless, the only thing that Google would have done wrong is not release the updated code and that is easily remedied.

In a legal sense, I wonder if this is really true? If you produced a GPL'd piece of software and I took the source code, modified it, and published the modified app without including the source code, and it turned out that I managed to market the product to success while your "old" version sat stagnant, you would probably take me to court (rightfully so) for violating your license.

Would you really expect that if I lost that lawsuit, that your remediation for effectively killing your business using your own product would be to "simply" release the modified source code? No monetary damages for however long your licesne has been violated?

What you're talking about is a breach of contract (Copyright) that can have a pretty far-reaching effect. I don't think the remedy is as simple as you think.
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@Peter Perry

The real history of Java and Android, as told by Google:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-real-history-of-java-and-android-as-told-by-google/3924
Great now we have another Florian Muller here.

I might point out that Android does not have 90%+ of the mobile market share. Also, even though it appears Google may give a competitive advantage to those that play by it's rule, MS to this day won't even let you play outside of it's rules. Google rules are a lot more competition friendly also.

Just try changing the default search engine on WP7. Carriers and handset makers can't do it either. Forget competitive advantage; with MS it's their rules or you don't play at all.
@anono
Also the nice thing about open source (even if it doesn't happen immediately) is that other companies can take over development if the original company becomes dominant and gets lazy.

Do you think IE6 would have been so bad for so long if it was open source. Somebody else would have decided to take the source code and make it better.
@anono Again, what does this have to do with Microsoft or IE6? Again, absolutely nothing. Here's the point, which you don't have the intelligence to grasp. Android is not open. It's only open in that it doesn't charge a licensing fee.

In fact, this article shows that Google's "were open" mantra is BS.

Now you may plant your tongue back in Larry Page's bum.
@jhammackHTH you had better check the Android Developer site as that is where Cyanogen got it from when building his mod.
@Gabriel Hernandez It's not really about the patents, but the copyright violations. All Google had to was to comply with the GPL and there would be patent issues.

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