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Live long and prosper, Windows 7

By | October 4, 2011, 5:00am PDT

Will businesses adopt Windows 8? Or will Microsoft’s next-generation operating system be ignored?

There’s no easy answer to that question, and I expect to see lots of analysts get it wrong over the next year or two as Windows 8 completes its development cycle and rolls out into the marketplace.

But history suggests that Windows 7 will continue to dominate the business segment for years after Windows 8 is released. To understand why, you have to look at how Microsoft’s enterprise customers make technology adoption decisions.

Consumers tend to buy a new operating system with a new PC and then deal with compatibility issues. Businesses, on the other hand, have to exhaustively test line-of-business applications to ensure that they are compatible with a new operating system; they also have to factor in training and support costs that go hand in hand with the rollout of a new OS.

If you have tens or hundreds of thousands of users, deploying a new OS is an expensive and complicated proposition, and it isn’t done without extensive preparation.

Over the past two years, businesses that use Windows as their primary desktop OS have been testing, remediating, piloting, and deploying Windows 7. There’s a certain urgency to that process, as extended support for the widely used Windows XP is due to end in April 2014.

Will those same businesses then turn around and begin planning deployments of Windows 8? Highly unlikely, given the sales and support lifecycle for Windows 7. In fact, Microsoft encourages its business customers to take a long-term view with this sort of deployment, offering a full 10 years of extended support for business editions of Windows.

In addition, Microsoft has a sales cycle that makes it relatively easy for enterprise customers to stick with a previous version for several years after its successor is released.

Microsoft has previously announced how its sales lifecycle works:

In the interest of providing more consistency and predictability with how we manage the Windows lifecycle, we are confirming our current policy of allowing retailers to sell the boxed version of the previous OS for up to 1 year after release of a new OS, and that OEMs can sell PCs with the previous OS pre-loaded for up to 2 years after, the launch date of the new OS.

I confirmed with a Microsoft spokesperson that this policy remains unchanged.

Here are the relevant dates for the Windows 7 sales and support lifecycle. I’m assuming that Windows 8 will be released in September 2012. If that date changes, you’ll need to adjust the end dates for retail and OEM sales accordingly.

As you can see, the business editions of Windows 7 will be fully supported by Microsoft until the end of this decade. And there’s also the sales lifecycle, which works on a different calendar.

For consumers, it will become increasingly difficult to buy a new PC with Windows 7 preinstalled a year or two after Windows 8 is released. For business customers, it’s somewhat easier, as OEMs are allowed to offer downgrade rights with business editions of Windows for up to two years.

But for enterprise customers who purchase volume license agreements, that’s a non-issue. Those license agreements allow enterprise customers to buy a new PC from an OEM with a Windows 8 license and then reimage it with their tested and preferred OS. For the next several years, that’s likely to be Windows 7.

Is Microsoft OK with that outcome? Absolutely. In fact, a senior Microsoft executive told me last week that the company believes “enterprise customers will fully deploy Windows 7 today and use Windows 8 for certain scenarios.” They’re far more interested in moving businesses off of Windows XP and onto modern, supported Windows versions.

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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
elizabeth@... 15th Oct
There are some really good points here on both sides of the discussion. But 1 thing I haven't seen addressed is MS's pattern of releasing a pretty good OS only every other release. The releases in the middle tend to be less than an improvement. I much prefer Windows 7 to Vista so I'm thinking that Windows 8 will be the next not-so-great release. But the 1 after will be pretty good if they stay true to their pattern. So we'll wait & see for our personal use. I can't imagine any business who's noticed this trend will be in a hurry to jump on Windows 8 either.
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Master Joe Says...One Thing
MasterJoe 4th Oct
The one thing I think could drive enterprise adoption of Windows 8 is unification. The same OS on a desktop, tablet, and smartphone means that users only have to learn a single UI, and that applications which work on one can work on all. Take a nurse in a hospital, for example. With Windows 8, she can be working on her desktop at the nursing station, only to, potentially, sync with a Windows 8-powered tablet, and pick up the same application, at the same place in that application, to go take care of the patient for which the application provides the data and keeps records. Now, from a smartphone perspective, Windows 8 wouldn't be as useful in applications like this, but it woudl still be great for checking corporate e-mail, as well as being used as a method of contact, much like the smartphones of today. I might be off on this, and I'll be the first to admit that's possible. But, I could easily see Windows 8 being a player in the enterprise, as well as in traditionally non-technical places.

--Master Joe
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@MasterJoe They will bet on Cloud computing... to sync all your devices...
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@pepe-el-Toro
Cloud is a failure and hopefully will be a thing of the past in 2-3 years. Businesses have already found out what a bad idea the cloud really is as it fails daily.
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@Master Joe
Just like Apple is moving all thier platforms into a single ios.
Which hackers will love. Now they just have to hack one os and then will have all equipment running said os. be it (i)phone, (i) tablet device or personal computer
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@MasterJoe
The problem is..unification or the one ui OS is a fail. One size os does not fit all and being a windows 8 developer user I have to say if metro, ribbons, and start button removal stay as is in windows 8 almost no one will go to it. I am alreqady seeing so much hate and negative feeling for windows 8 especially the metro tile ui i see no way for microsoft to release this as it had intended. They either have add a ui option to allow users to install a prefered ui choice upon setup ie ask if you want an xp look, vista, 7, or metro ui or they must scrap the entire windows 8 concept and idea as it is so far from what makes windows long time customer base love windows it will look at vista as a hiccup of failure in comparison. As is the windows 8 developers peek is not even usable as a full pc os. It just doesn't work and is formed more for tablet use and has no real connection to the reality of keyboard and mouse usage. I loe the idea of thinking cross platform windows compat5ibility but the OS has to be divided into 3 versions that play well . It needs a grown up pc version thats for real work on pcs and laptops, then a more touch friendly app version for tablets, and then a slimmed down customizable phone version. All need to allow the removale of the metro tile ui though as thats the biggest drag as shown by posts and wp7 sales where people dispised the tile look.
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@Fletchguy
I agree with you that the preview is not usable, it is there so you can start to think about Win8. It did provide enough usability for me to test our main proprietary apps but I took it off as soon as I was done testing. I expect that the first beta will be good since that is when Win 7 started to work right.
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@Fletchguy
Oh, Puleese!! What part of computing did you win your Nobel for???
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@Fletchguy
AMEN! One size does not fit all--never has and never will. Trying to make one OS for "circles" and "triangles" just won't work. Unless, of course MS allows one to disable the unwanted user interface via a Control Panel element. So far, no mention of that requirement.
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@Master

Things you use your mobile phone for differ from what you use your desktop for (different screen size, hardware capabilities, expectations etc). So, why should OSes look and feel the same? Plus, uses do not do complicated things with the OS, they do it on the app. So, as long as the UI is intuitive, it should not make a difference. I think Microsoft is unifying the UI just to get people excited and talking and not because it solves a real issue.
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@MasterJoe
No way a touch UI for a tablet will be usable on a desktop. Can you imagine reaching out to touch your screen all the time. Makes my arms tired just thinking about it.

Both Apple and Microsoft should abandon too much unification of tablet and desktop UI's.
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Dimdows Unification FAIL
ldo17 4th Oct
@MasterJoe Microsoft already offered you this "unification" 10 years ago: Windows Mobile phones with a Windows-style Start menu, and tablet PCs running full-featured Windows XP.

But people didn't want it, because the Windows interface is so awful on anything but a desktop (and not so hot even there).

The closest thing we have now to a single UI running on different devices would have to be Android. Nothing else seems able to match its market reach.
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
shellcodes_coder 4th Oct
Ya, Windows 8 will follow Vista's path. It's just not worth upgrading and besides tablet interface for desktop? what a joke. Anyways, it's still no where near to OS X
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
Michael Kelly 4th Oct
The question will be cost savings. If running low powered Windows 8 machines will save $500 a head and at least keep productivity the same (if not make it better) then businesses will adopt. Sure it may take a year or two for businesses to discover that possibility and then act on it, but if Windows 8 can accomplish that then businesses will notice.
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
WebSiteManager 4th Oct
@Michael Kelly
Windows 7 runs respectably on fairly old hardware. I doubt "8" will use substantially less hardware power than 7.
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@WebSiteManager - depending on your definition of "substantial", you're wrong. Win8 uses less disk, IO, CPU and memory. To port Win8 to ARM, MS had to clean up a lot of the OS and kernel. This also benefits the x86 versions since both are compiled from the same source.
@WebSiteManager All testing that I've seen has Windows 8 running well on older system. To be fair, Windows 7 runs great on my 2003 Sony desktop with a seriously old embedded video card and 512 megs of memory.
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@WebSiteManager
The specs for Win8 are lower but the preview stopped installation on a machine here with less than 1GB RAM that does run Win 7. It ran pretty well on a P4 - 1.5 with 1GB RAM, better than XP for sure.
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
Ptorq Updated - 4th Oct
@WebSiteManager If it doesn't, it's not going to be a pleasant experience on a smartphone (or iPad-like device), which is what I think Michael was talking about. There may, of course, be a "heavy iron" version and a "lite" version.
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@WebSiteManager .. au contraire
thx-1138_@... Updated - 5th Oct
.. get a clue before posting. I've used it on an old, decrepit, single-core AMD Athlon 64 3000+, with 1GB of RAM. It functions incredibly well and is also very responsive and memory efficient - moreso than Win 7.

So please, stop spreading baseless FUD.
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@Michael Kelly

So businesses are going to flock to Windows 8 if it will "save $500 a head and at least keep productivity the same"? And just how will it save $500 a head when you have to get an upgrade license for the OS (and possibly for apps)? And are you certain that all the legacy apps that a business needs, mission critical apps, and all other apps will work under Win8? In our enterprise, that alone will "take a year or two". We're still 90%+ Windows XP, and it isn't changing any time soon. Not in this economy.
@benched42 Most companies are on an annual agreement. They can put any "modern" version of Windows on their hardware. They only upgrade when there is a financial gain to do so (unless you're an executive, then you get the best hardware and software that sits lifeless in an empty office)
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@benched42
Dont forget retraing your entire staff costs as windows 8 is nothing like any prior windows it is completely different with heavy ribbon reliance and the removal of the start button option as it it is know will make productivity drop greatly until retraining and familiarity over a decade establish itsself. I as most who have used and posted on windows 8 plan on skipping it as it is a fail for full pc or laptop use and once xp and windows 7 die in 10 years I will be a canidate to going to a windows classic skinned linux os if Microsft doesnt change direction or is out of the os market.
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@Michael Kelly
Problem is windows 8 productivity and the cost to retrain all users as it is completely different then any windows before it and actually much more apple like means extra costs and slowed production which mean as a a choice for users in need of those and for businesses windows 8 with metro is the exact opposite of what you want.XP will stay strong til 2014 then people will moveinto windows 7 and keep that for another 5-8 years and windows 8 will fail much greater then vista. If the windows one os and tile metro ui stay I have already seen the massive outcry from those trying it that linux with a classic xp or win 7 skin will be where most go as they finally break up with Microsoft due to their failure to care about the needs of its long time customers.
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@Fletchguy
Only people whining is the linux folks. Windows users know that they will be up and running with Win 8 in an hour or two. Ribbons are common to Windows Users since Office 2007. Who cares what whining linus user think??
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@Fletchguy Start shopping for a linux system now because according to the boys in Redmond the Metro UI is the future and developers better fall in line. I'm still running XP and when they drop XP support I'll be switching to Gentoo.
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That's some weird logic.
Lester Young 4th Oct
@Fletchguy The new UI will be so disruptive that companies will opt for something more disruptive - adopting a version of an OS that looks like Windows but operates differently (!?).

It's actually the consumer space that kick-starts adoption in the business space. As a new OS becomes familiar in the consumer space the training issue becomes moot. In a couple of years, Metro UI will be familiar because of consumer devices.
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@Michael Kelly
Since when does running low-powered Windows machines ever save money? You might spend a little less on hardware, but at enterprise level, with negotiated contracts, a low power machine means the vendor is making more money than he should and the end users are not getting as much work done. Not to mention hardware lifespans must be fixed and the low power junk won't continue to run apps that are constantly being upgraded and needing more power and memory at every rev for nearly as long as the heavier hardware will. You don't save money going cheap.
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I think the question still remains will businesses adopt Windows 7?
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@jeyno

Well being that Win7's market share is now greater than Win XP's, I'd say they already are.
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@jmiller1978 The only reason market share is so high is because MS is included in every new machine sale for consumers. There are many businesses that refuse to update due to the cost of upgrading from XP to anything new by MS. As a MCSE in S Miss I know that majority of my small business clients will drain every last byte out of WinXp they can. We are talking many who need to update printers, software and hardware due to the HCL on Win7 or the tablet software known as Windows 8. I am running Server 2003 and XP and have Win7 on one machine personally and in all honesty the bang for the buck upgrade price is just not there. I'd really hate to say this at the route MS is going my next upgrade is going to be a Apple....
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@jmiller1978 Those are consumer numbers by and large not enterprise numbers. Business's are still running XP and some are runing even older Windows iterations than that.
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@Str0b0 Since you want to play the slice and dice game, consider that XP's share only is as large as it is because of pirate software markets throughout the Third World. In the US, XP is less than a third of Windows usage and rapidly declining. It's dead meat. Get over it.

@guitarest If you're talking bang for the buck, what's the logic in upgrading to Apple instead of a modern version of Windows? Is that really the kind of advice you give to clients who are so strapped that they are milking their obsolete XP hardware?
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
Cylon Centurion 4th Oct
@jeyno

They already are. One way or another support for XP is going to end.
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...Windows 7 may very well be the next XP and you'll be b!tching about that in the next couple of years as well. wink
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
GoodThings2Life 4th Oct
@jeyno ... They already are. My mutli-business enterprise rolled out Windows 7 this year, and my IT support request volume is less than 10% of the volume we had prior. Not only are my users more efficient, they are experiencing fewer technical issues.
@GoodThings2Life

ScorpioBlue perhaps? wink
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What truth, @Will Ferrett?
ScorpioBlue 5th Oct
The lie perpetuated by the corporate tools around here?

Hmmm? wink
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
ItsTheBottomLine 4th Oct
@jeyno That horse is already out of the barn and down the road.
@jeyno
Yes they will, and many are or have.
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For the desktop
gbouchard99@... Updated - 4th Oct
Windows 7 is the right os for a desktop computer. Anyone who needs to sit down and work on an authoring tool, business solution software or an office suite... Win 7 is the way to go. Smoother than XP, more business oriented than Osx and more compatible than Linux. It's not perfect and there are still a few things here and there that could be better but overall... it is very satisfying. Osx and Linux are great at what they are intended for. But Win 7 has no place on a tablet.

On the other end, Windows 8 gives my goose bumps. I don't get it. I don't understand how the metro UI could be a replacement to the start menu on a desktop computer (because it's basically what it is). MS needs to address this issue before they make any decision. Windows 8 should be the evolution, the refinement of Windows 7 Windows Tablet 8 should be a small, lightweight ultra fast metro UI only, OS for tablets. Why even bother with the desktop UI on a tablet MS is trying to hard right now and users wont follow them down the drain whit Win8 as it is proposed right now. Yes long live to Win 7 its a keeper.
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@gbouchard99@...

Very simple. Endless refinement of old products = no innovation.
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@dagamer34

I'd say there's an element of truth to that.
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No element of truth to that
William Farrell 5th Oct
@dagamer34

Regardless of what a few believe.
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Yes element of truth to that
ScorpioBlue 5th Oct
Regardless of what @Will Ferrett believes.
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
WebSiteManager 4th Oct
@gbouchard99@...
Windows "8" will be much better for cloud based computing, which may give it a huge leg up soon. When Windows 95 came out, USB wasn't a big deal, but by the time you hit XP, it was really painful using many new accessories if you were still on 95.
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@gbouchard99@...
You might be right?? But, one question? With Apple in the mist of doing the same thing with their OS, why would you run to them?? Is this because Microsoft will beat them to it??? Hummmmm!!
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Who said that?
Lester Young 4th Oct
@windozefreak Nothing in that post about running to Apple, just continuing with Win7.
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Okay, but systems that can actually boot Windows 7 could start to get rare within that 10 year timeframe. PCs that carry that "designed for Windows 8" logo must use UEFI, and I'm not sure Windows 7 boots on a system like that? (Does it?) Now probably this is fixable (a solution a bit like a "hackintosh") but I'm not sure how acceptable that will be for enterprise customers. I'm not sure how I feel about it for example, possibly "OK" if it has a Microsoft logo on it.

As for Windows 8, personally running it on a desktop PC is an exercise in mild irritation and low-level disruption. Being shoved back to Metro when you want to make a change in Control Panel only to be shoved back into "Desktop" when the change is deeper than Metro can accommodate is really, really annoying. Metro with a mouse is a truly "meh" experience. However application compatibility seems good (thus far) and in testing it seems impressively quick for such an early release.

But am I sold on this as an "Enterprise OS", err, no. Mostly because on my (possibly illogical) hatred of Metro. I'm sure it'll be lovely on a Tablet, but on a desktop - not so much.
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@Jeremy-UK

There are a number of business-class PCs sold today that use UEFI. I know of specific models from HP and Lenovo, for example.
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@Jeremy-UK

Actually both windows vista since SP1 i believe and windows 7 support UEFI
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RE: Live long and prosper, Windows 7
elizabeth@... 15th Oct
There are some really good points here on both sides of the discussion. But 1 thing I haven't seen addressed is MS's pattern of releasing a pretty good OS only every other release. The releases in the middle tend to be less than an improvement. I much prefer Windows 7 to Vista so I'm thinking that Windows 8 will be the next not-so-great release. But the 1 after will be pretty good if they stay true to their pattern. So we'll wait & see for our personal use. I can't imagine any business who's noticed this trend will be in a hurry to jump on Windows 8 either.

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