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Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition

By | April 20, 2009, 12:50pm PDT

Summary: If you’ve read anything about Windows 7 Starter Edition, your first reaction was probably the same as mine: Is Microsoft nuts? This ultra-cheap edition is intended for use on netbooks, but its biggest restriction sounds like a complete deal-breaker: it only runs three applications at once. I’ve spent the last three weeks running Windows 7 Starter Edition on an ultra-portable PC. Surprisingly, Starter edition works fine, if you’re really using your PC as a netbook.

Update: Since I prepared this post, Microsoft has reversed course and announced that it will not impose the three-app limit in Windows 7 Starter.

Note: See an important update at the end of this post. Contrary to some published reports, Internet Explorer does not get special treatment in Windows 7 Starter Edition.

If you’ve read anything about Windows 7 Starter Edition, your first reaction was probably the same as mine: Is Microsoft nuts? This ultra-cheap edition is intended for use on netbooks, but its biggest restriction sounds like a complete deal-breaker: it only runs three applications at once.

But I prefer to form my opinions based on facts, not press releases. So, for the sake of research, I’ve spent the last three weeks running Windows 7 Starter Edition on an ultra-portable Sony notebook. Here’s what I learned.

For starters, that three-app limit isn’t as cut and dried as it sounds. Several people who e-mailed me with questions assumed that the limit means you can only have three windows open at once. Nope. At the moment, in fact, I have 16 separate windows open at once (and multiple tabs within some of those windows as well).

Here’s the proof:

How am I able to get away with this? Well, for starters, you can open as many windows as you want from a single program. So if you want to open 15 tabs in your browser, six images in your photo-editing program, and a couple of instant messenger windows, you can do it. You won’t see this warning message until you try to open a fourth program:

In addition, some of the things you’re likely to do every day on a netbook don’t count against the three-app limit at all:

  • Windows Explorer windows don’t count. So you can open as many file folders as you want and even preview the contents of individual files without having any of those processes counted against your limit.
  • Basic Windows tools don’t trigger the limit. You can run a Command Prompt window or open Task Manager even if you already have three programs open.
  • Most Control Panel applets don’t count either. If you need to check your network settings or change to a different power management scheme or install a new Bluetooth device, you can do that anytime, regardless of what else is running.
  • Program installers run without triggering the limit. I just used Internet Explorer to download and install Google Chrome, even with three programs already open. No problem. [Update: Although Microsoft claims installers are exempt from the three-program limit, this appears to be untrue, at least in the beta I looked at. Based on some comments, I just tried to run a dozen or so installers with three programs already open. Each one failed.]
  • Desktop gadgets are free, too. I’ve got the Pandora playback gadget running on the Windows 7 desktop and have no trouble opening three full-featured programs as well.
  • Some system utilities get to bypass the three-app limit. The ClipMate utility, for instance, starts automatically and places itself in the system tray. I was able to pop up its main window and not trigger a too-many-apps warning.
  • Antivirus programs that run as a system service don’t count. I installed Sunbelt Software’s excellent VIPRE antivirus/antispyware suite on this system. The program icon showed up in the system tray and it alerted me several times about potentially suspicious events. I was able to right-click that icon and use its menu to scan the system for viruses and check for updated virus definitions without a problem, even with three programs open. (Trying to open VIPRE’s main program window, however, triggered a warning that I needed to close something else first.)

In short, when I used this system as a netbook, it worked just fine. On a netbook, most of the tasks you’re likely to tackle are going to take place in a browser window anyway. If you use Google Chrome or Firefox or Internet Explorer, you can check your mail using Gmail or Hotmail or Outlook Web Access, build a spreadsheet in Google Docs or Zoho, check Facebook or Windows Live, Twitter to your heart’s content, read your favorite feeds in Google Reader or NewsGator, and Web-surf till you run out of memory. All of those tasks count as only a single program, because they’re running within one or more identical processes belonging to your preferred web browser.

If I tried to use this system as a conventional notebook, running multiple Microsoft Office or OpenOffice aps, playing music in iTunes or Windows Media Player, and using third-party IM programs, I would probably be incredibly frustrated with the limitations of Starter Edition. In that scenario I would want to upgrade it to a more powerful version using the Windows 7 Anytime Upgrade feature.

Ultimately, that’s the question that you’ll want to ask before considering Windows 7 Starter Edition as an option: Is this a netbook or a notebook? If the answer is netbook, you might be pleasantly surprised at what this low-powered OS can actually accomplish.

Update 23-Apr: At least two sources have now mistakenly interpreted something in this post to mean that Internet Explorer is exempt from the three-app limit. This is incorrect, as I just confirmed with additional testing. Internet Explorer counts as an application in Windows 7 Starter Edition, in exactly the same way as any other browser. If you have IE8 open, you will be able to open an unlimited number of web pages in IE tabs (just as you can do in Firefox or Chrome), but you will only be able to open two additional applications before you see the error message illustrated above. As I note in this post, you can open Windows Explorer and perform file management tasks without using up one of the three simultaneous applications. But Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer are not the same.

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RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
Buzzard55 23rd Dec
I don"t know what my next device is gonna be, but it's gonna have a "i" in front of it, as in Apple....
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You are a GENIUS!
Bruce Lang Updated - 20th Apr 2009
Actually going through a process called "testing and evaluation" - with an actual product no less! Genius!! wink

p.s. more should try it.
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No, he is a M$ SLAVE!
urbandk 21st Apr 2009
Just joking! good article.
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don't make yourself look stupid
jk_10 22nd Apr 2009
this is not the place
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Agree!
windozefreak 22nd Apr 2009
One of the reasons I like Ed's posts. I may no like all of his post sometimes, but I Have little doubt he's giving solid information.
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Minimal Windows
chromeronin 27th Apr 2009
Now at last there is a version of Window I can use in a VM to run the one
last app I have that wont work in OS X or Linux.without having to fork
out $200 to run one free app - MS Communicator. I already have good
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Shareware style limit
Alan Smithie 20th Apr 2009
Still baffles me who would want to buy this, it makes MS look cheapskate and lowers the brand. I think a few people are going to buy this and not know about the 3 app limit (yes there are unscrupulous retail salesmen) until further down the line when they want to run more things and are going to be a little bit miffed. It's a given basic function of an OS that it runs multiple applications. Today's netbooks have the power of top notebooks from 5 years ago and good old Moore's law says they are going to get more powerful so people are going to expect more and want to run more. Careful MS you are giving Apple spin doctors a few bullets with this one
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Not to mention Linux spin doctors
James A Bailey 20th Apr 2009
Linux pushers will also have some good fodder from this one. From what I read on another site Microsoft is selling XP for $15 per license to defend against Linux getting a nice foot hold on netbooks.
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Yep that too
Alan Smithie 20th Apr 2009
and no 3 app limit.
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Agree
crazlunatic 20th Apr 2009
I agree with you on this one. The purpose is price. If anyone's got time including Ed, please feel free to take a look at my opionated article called Why Windows 7 will win the netbook war at Windows7Center.

It's really a fair game for everyone because of WAU and no one is forcing you to buy or stay on Starter, it's just an option
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Surely MS wouldn't do something like that would they?
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Why?
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 21st Apr 2009
Microsoft offers an OS to OEM's for %15.

Several alternatives are available for free.

The OEM's install the $15 OS and sales take off, leaving devices with the free OS on the shelves. Retailers reorder more devices but only with the $15 OS on them because nobody is buying the devices with the free OS.

What's wrong with this picture?

Don't confuse competition with anti-competitive behavior. Remember - Microsoft is still under the vigilant gaze of the DOJ - and has actually just agreed to extend this oversight to make sure that it isn't going to be accused of being dishonest.
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Maybe
windozefreak 22nd Apr 2009
Someone can explian how being smarter is anticompetitive?
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What's wrong with this picture is..
mike@... 24th Apr 2009
People use what they are used to or can get support for.

I have installed Ubuntu on customer's laptops because the lost the XP disks, and they hate it.

To much is different from Windows. They had a hard enough time trying to learn enough about Windows and the apps. Now, they have to start all over? And, who supports Ubuntu? Does Geek Squad? They are the number one go to for support at the consumer level.

It's simply worth a few more bucks for something familiar to them and can get support for.
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Lets face it, the argument for any Linux spin doctor is that MS is still making $15 on a 7 year old OS and that 7 year old OS is beating the pants off of free Linux distros in netbook sales. That ought to keep an quiet. BTW, where is Apple's netbook. That's right, they don't have one.
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hardware=os?
over2sd 21st Apr 2009
Perhaps it would be wise to not slam an OS based on whether it sells well on a particular niche market, eh?
And Linux? No artificial limits. No spin necessary.
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Artificial Limits Not Necessary
tem62 21st Apr 2009
Linux doesn't need articial limits. It has very effective natural limits. The open-source mantra often appears to be "good enough." Once something works good enough for the geeks to get it to work it's good enough. There is precious little Linux software that can be installed as easily as Windows software.

There are some awesome open source projects out there that *obviously* don't believe in "good enough" and it's a shame there aren't more of them. But, until a casual novice user can pick a new piece of hardware or a Linux application to meet a need and successfiully install it, without ending up in "dependency hell", Linux will not, and in fact cannot, topple Microsoft.
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"Precious little Linux software..."
CassidyJames 21st Apr 2009
"There is precious little Linux software that can be installed as easily as Windows software."

I'm sorry... but would you care to mention what Linux software you're trying to install? The process for installation is as easy as [or easier than] that of Windows. For most distributions the majority of software you'd like to install is simply found under "Add/Remove" in the "Applications" menu. Hundreds of applications nicely categorized, including detailed descriptions, all searchable. If the application you seek is not included there, you can simply do a quick Google search for it. Download the installer, double-click it, click "OK" a time or two, and it's installed.

Tell me how that's harder than Windows.
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How about commercial software?
dseward 22nd Apr 2009
I setup and Ubuntu box as a study to see if we could recapture some of our older hardware. The box ran great except for the most critical piece of business software that we use. The software is from IBM who is Linux server friendly, but not Linux desktop friendly. They have an unsupported Linux version of this software and trying to install the software was a joke. Four hours later I gave up. I'm not a novice, but if I can't get our most critical piece of business software to run on a Linux desktop in four hours, why should I keep trying when we have been easily installing it on Windows PCs since Win 95? Until there is across the board support from major software/service vendors for the Linux desktop platform it will stay a enthusiast OS. Argue all you want, these are the facts.
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HUH?
tech_ed@... 22nd Apr 2009
I can't tell you the number of times I tried to install a Linux (remember, Linux != Ubuntu) application only to be told that some such library isn't there. Then begins the hunt for said library...Or which app runs on which flavor of Linux...Is this my Linux SE machine, my Ubuntu 8.04 machine, my Fedora installation, my Knoppix installation or the andLinux installed on my laptop or one of many versions of DSLinux...I don't know and honestly I don't really care. I want to install the app and be done with it!
And dont' get me started on the automatic update issues...sure, it's nice to have, but when it fails, the only recourse is to drop down to a terminal session and manually type some archaic words like some form of ancient ritual incantation and then if you're lucky and the planets are aligned in your favor, it will begin to work again...but for how long?
Ed
web/gadget guru
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You are either a liar or an idiot
tracy anne 23rd Apr 2009
Installing software on any Linux is as easy as locating it in the Package manager and telling the package manager to install it.

So you are either a liar, or you are doing the Windows thing and searching the internet for software downloading and attempting to install it, which makes you an idiot.
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Who's an idiot? Ed?
mike@... Updated - 24th Apr 2009
@Tracy,

Does Hoyle Casino run on Ubuntu? How about Quicken, Google Chrome, Office or Word Perfect?

With more sites using Silverlight, is it available for Ubuntu?

Hey, what about iTunes or Zune software. The Netlix Movie Viewer, too. Then there is AIM, Yahoo, and MSN messengers.

Let's not forget Kodak Photo Share for my new camera, or my PIM software. Darn if all the apps that came with my printer don't have Ubuntu packages.

Ohhhhhh... I forgot about Wine. Now we have to teach a novice consumer about Wine?

All they want to do is drop a CD into the drive and the software installs. Not search the web for look a like or equivalent software.

You know what CDs are right? They are overpriced and come in a box at the big box store.

You and I might be OK with using Ubuntu Tracy, but the general consumer definitely is NOT.

And, I still want to know if the number one consumer support center, Geek Squad, is going to be of any help. I can't tell you the number of Windows machines they break in my area.

So, Eds not stupid or an idiot. It sounds more like you don't have a real handle on what is going on in the average home on your street. Those are the customers Ed is talking about and I talk about on my radio show every week.

You know the consumer? They weren't born knowing this stuff.

Mike DiMichele
miked@wgnradio.com
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Dependency hell? Not lately.
over2sd 23rd Apr 2009
I haven't had dependency hell since Red Hat 7.5 or something. I don't even know if I'm remembering the version number, it was that long ago.

The open source mantra is "end-user choice", and possibly, "end-user responsibility"...

As far as ease of installing, I can type one command (I cut my teeth on the C64 and MS-DOS, so I prefer the command line, but there are graphical Package Managers out there, if that floats your boat), go make a sandwich, and come back to have 30 or 200 pieces of software I chose installed. I've seen some people say Linux != Ubuntu, but I think you guys who think installing software is hard are looking at a different distro, so I'll say this: Linux != Gentoo and Linux != RedHat. Use your PMS until you want to take responsibility for system adminstration.

Yes, there are some good open source projects that aren't satisfied with "good enough", and those tend to be the big ones that lots of people use.

But you're applying the standards of a commercial economy to a movement that's not rooted in commerce. The vast majority of open source projects are (or started as) software some programmer built because he or she needed/wanted it, and the end result was what he or she wanted it to be. In the spirit of open source software, these people offer their hard work for free so that if you find it useful, you can use it, too.

By the way, I never said anything in my post about toppling anybody. I just said it was silly to judge a versatile OS based on one niche market. How many low-end embedded devices run WindowsXP? Lots of them run a *nix, but it would be silly to say that WindowsXP sucks because it's not popular on low-end embedded systems.

Not everyone's a fanboy, so try to show a little respect, eh?
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Windows Netbook vs XP
chromeronin 27th Apr 2009
Windows is winning here because the vendors are putting out
shithouse products. Dell even manages to scew up Ubuntu on the mini
12, by shipping a non redistributable CD and not opening up their
customisations to the general Ubuntu pool, so when you go to try to
install a proper version, say 8.10 it is busted. I beleive the disks are
marked Ubuntu +. That must be ubuntu plus the same sort of
crapware we load on the windows desktops.

I have ubuntu on my Acer Aspire One and I am pretty happy with it.
What would it be so hard for Acer to supply this and fix the tiny small
problems with their drivers rather than have to have a whole Linpus
infrastructure? which is now years out of date?

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Pay now or pay later
Ed Bott 20th Apr 2009
Intersting point. But really this is about letting a hardware maker sell a very cheap PC with a $15 OS instead of a $49 one. If that's enough for you, then you saved $34. If you need more power, you can use the Anytime Upgrade feature and have a full unlocked OS in 10 minutes.
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It is all about the OEMs
mikefarinha 20th Apr 2009
Try as I might I still can't find any official information stating that Windows 7 Starter Edition was made *exclusively* for netbooks. On the Windows Team Blog they state that Win7SE was created at the request of OEMs wanting a striped down and cheap version of Windows. On another Microsoft press release page they say that Win7SE works well on low performance devices such as netbooks.

I believe that Win7SE will see a very limited release once Windows 7 hits RTM. All of this mumbo-jumbo about Win7SE being a bad business move will subsides then.

It seems that whenever the topic Win7SE crops up the ABMers all start to feign disgust with Microsoft and offer up their *helpful* thoughts on what Microsoft should do become even more dominant... because I'm certain that nothing would please them more than to see Microsoft succeed with Windows 7.
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Here
Ed Bott 20th Apr 2009
"We?ll also continue to offer Windows Starter edition, which will only be offered pre-installed by an OEM. [...] This edition is available only in the OEM channel on new PCs limited to specific types of hardware. "

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2009/feb09/02-03Win7SKU-QA.mspx

It doesn't say what those "specific types of hardware" are.
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My point exactly.
mikefarinha 20th Apr 2009
The way the blogosphere makes it sound Win7 Starter was built exclusively for netbooks and therefore it fails because of some perceived pain inflicted by Microsoft.

Windows 7 SE is the result of Microsoft providing a product at it's customers (OEMs) request. That is what good companies do.
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"At the request"
Amelioration 21st Apr 2009
No, MS is just elbowing its way around to force itself into the netbook market so that it can try to screw people forever and a day there too.

MS sees it as vital, as it gradually tilts these unwitting muppets into its own cloud. It needs the OS so that it can do the leveraging.
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Microsoft's customers are largely OEM's, not you and I
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 21st Apr 2009
Microsoft ships a TON of copies of Windows every year. It ships the VAST majority of those copies of Windows to OEM's, not directly to its end-users.

Microsoft created SE at OEM's request and will only be shipping copies to OEM's that order it - you won't be buying a boxed copy of SE from BestBuy.
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something with reduced functionality which costs the supplier more (modifying the existing code to impose artificial limits) to produce.
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You have proof to the contrary?
mikefarinha 21st Apr 2009
If you have proof to the contrary then please share. However I doubt you have any special insight into the matter and are just projecting your ignorance and FUD.

The following is from the Windows Team Blog:

"Windows 7 Starter: Something that our OEM partners asked for is to have an offering for folks that will do very limited things with their PCs and for PCs with limited hardware capabilities. Windows 7 Starter only allows up to 3 applications to run at once. This is something that will be offered only through OEM partners."

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/02/04/a-closer-look-at-the-windows-7-skus.aspx
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Pay a BIT LESS now and get screwed more later.

Good move, offset the heavy screwing until the recession eases.
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Again, this is something you should take up with your OEM
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 21st Apr 2009
Microsoft doesn't sell SE to end-users. Only OEM's can order it.

Only OEM's that want to advertize and compete on price will order this. These OEM's will take every opportunity to upgrade you to Home Premium if they can.
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Trry this
windozefreak 22nd Apr 2009
An old First Sergeant friend of mine had this sign on his wall that guided me for years. "The perfect substitute for brains is silence."
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"It is all about the OEMs"
ReadWryt (error) 21st Apr 2009
Oh man, why am I hearing another Weird Al song bubbling up from the dark recesses of my gray matter..?
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Dunno
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 21st Apr 2009
Perhaps you should go lay down?
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What! What!
Mechageo 22nd Dec 2009
You've got white out all over your screen!

I bet you think your system's really neato, what kind of chip you got in there, a Dorito?!!?
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Specific hardware:
notsofast 21st Apr 2009
even if that's true, it's pretty clear what SE is for. MS added the restriction to prevent an OS that's designed for super cheap h/w from being deployed on regular laptops and desktop systems.

It may not work...based on Ed's post, it doesn't sound like the restrictions are nearly has bad as I thought they were (and even then I didn't think it mattered much if it was used on a netbook).

I guess we'll see what happens in a few months. If I bought a netbook, these restrictions wouldn't bug me. If I bought a desktop or laptop system with SE restrictions, I'd be pissed.
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And if you bought a notebook/desktop running Starter Edition ...
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 21st Apr 2009
... you'd need a checkup from the neck up!

No OEM (that expects to remain in business) is going to sell you a PC loaded with Starter Edition unless you're living in a developing country and are receiving an EXTREMELY low-end bare-bones PC.

I think you said it all when you stated that "doesn't sound like the restrictions are nearly has bad as I thought they were".

I think this is all a storm in a teacup because by the end of this year, most netbooks will be coming with at least 2GB RAM and a dual-core Atom CPU. Starter will then just be a lowest-price tool for the OEM's.
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I agree
dseward 22nd Apr 2009
Great point, so what's all the argument about?
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Dev Time
chromeronin Updated - 27th Apr 2009
Now how much time did MS spend working out how to cripple the OS
rather than just fixing Vista, making it faster, or removing unneeded
services for smaller low powered devices?
Lock-in, obfuscation, hype and bare faced lies is how that industry works.
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Wow!
mike@... 24th Apr 2009
I'm glad you think the same of Apple that I do.
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M$ Cash Grab
cafehunk 21st Apr 2009
Ed, that's nonsense. This is about M$ grabbing the full retail value of the upgrade for itself, and dis-intermediating the pricing of the OS. We know the system manufacturers pay way less than retail for all the OS versions. Plus, there will be no discounting when the upgrades come straight from the MotherShip and the payment goes straight to the M$ bottom line.

It's also about fooling the customer into a system that's cheap to buy, and hiding the price of a full OS as a separate line item.

It's also about putting M$ applications in a preferred position relative to third-party apps. When IE doesn't count toward the limit, but all competitive browsers do, it further tilts the playing field. When Silverlight doesn't count toward the limit, but Acrobat does, it hurts Adobe versus MS. When Java counts against the limit, it'll hurt Sun, uhh, IBM, uhh, Oracle. Federal Judge Kathleen Kotar-Kelly ought to slap this down HARD.

In the long run, it will also further the trend toward large bloated do-everything applications with complicated interfaces and massive security holes. You can't have a suite of apps that work together with clearly defined interfaces between them, 'cause that'll count as more than one app.

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Ed Bott 22nd Apr 2009
You start with a false premise: "when the upgrades come straight from the MotherShip and the payment goes straight to the M$ bottom line"

Actually, the Anytime Upgrade program allows OEMs and partners to sell upgrades as well. So if I buy a nwe computer from Dell/HP, they can sell me an upgrade. Or I can buy from Amazon.

You're also wrong about IE counting toward the limit. It does indeed count, in just exactly the same way as Firefox or Chrome or Safari.

Wanna try again?
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Hackerbait
chromeronin 27th Apr 2009
How long before the smart people who can unlock Apples iPhone get
into the system and work out how to disable the cripple limits?

I don"t know what my next device is gonna be, but it's gonna have a "i" in front of it, as in Apple....

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