No more Vista whining, please
Summary: Over the weekend, I read yet another Windows Vista whine that managed to hit the Slashdot front page. In this case, it was my longtime colleague Jim Louderback, who decided to push the "Vista sucks" button as he was bailing out of PC Magazine. Here's why I'm unimpressed.
[See my follow-up post: We need less whining, more complaining about Vista]
Over the weekend I received three e-mails and one online request for comment on outgoing PC Magazine editor Jim Louderback's farewell column, in which he trashes Vista on the way out the door:
The upshot is that even after nine months, Vista just ain't cutting it. I definitely gave Microsoft too much of a free pass on this operating system: I expected it to get the kinks worked out more quickly. Boy, was I fooled! If Microsoft can't get Vista working, I might just do the unthinkable: I might move to Linux.
It's the usual mishmash of Windows whining. Sleep doesn't work. Network settings are too complicated. I'm having problems with my network. Whaa whaa whaa whaaaaaaaaa.
So what's the problem? Well, I've divined a few clues from Jim's column:
"The brand-new dual-core system I built a few months ago..."
"...hours tweaking and optimizing it..."
"strange and nonreproducible system quirks"
To understand why I'm unimpressed with yet another anecdotal review, realize that Jim's talking about a homebuilt system put together out of bleeding-edge parts (with a motherboard "designed to help overclockers tweak the most performance possible out of their components") as documented in this April story in ExtremeTech. My experience says that there's nearly a 1:1 correspondence between those who try too hard to build the ultimate system and those who complain when it doesn't work. There's a reason they call it the bleeding edge.
I also groan, deeply, when I read about all those "tweaks and optimizations." You shouldn't need to spend hours tweaking any computer, regardless of operating system, to get it working properly. In fact, any time I hear some self-professed expert talk about how much time they spent on tweaks, I brace myself for the complaints.
Oddly enough, back in April, when Jim first wrote about his experience building this system, he loved it:
I love my new system. It's fast, and surprisingly—with three fans and a power supply—really quiet.... It's also over 5.0 on Vista's performance index—an imperfect tool, but it makes me feel good anyway. ATI's catalyst drivers are still uneven, but I'm driving two monitors and both work great. ... [F]or now I'm happy. It sure took a while, but I learned a lot, and I ended up with a great new system that'll last me a long, long time.
I guess "a long, long time" is four months.
In fact, just last March Jim loved Vista, too, and he was ready to wait until October or even December for Microsoft to fix the exact same annoyances that have suddenly become unacceptable:
I've been using the shipping version of Vista for about three months, and although I'm impressed overall, it's still full of nagging annoyances.
[Whine about sleep, whine about networking, whine about video drivers, whaa, whaa, whaaaaaa]
Still, despite the problems, I do love Vista. It's absolutely the wave of the future. ...
So please, Steve [Ballmer], reconsider a first service pack. It doesn't have to offer much more than your aggregated fixes. But do deliver it by October. You played the Grinch last year, delaying Vista and stealing Christmas. This year, you can play Rudolph and save the holidays with a shiny new service pack. That way, by December most of these problems, like my old Civic, will become just fond memories.
Now, call me old school, but I always thought one of the perks of being editor of a big national computer magazine was being able to get personal support from Microsoft, and more importantly, being able to pass along what you learn to your readers. Hey, he might even have tried installing these two hotfixes, which were released two weeks before his Vista rant was published and have reportedly solved performance and compatibility issues (especially sleep-related issues) for lots of people.
And of course, this is the same guy who said:
I'm so paranoid about bots that I recently rebuilt one of my home machines because it was exhibiting strange symptoms, including weird hard drive accesses and slower-than-normal operation. This could have been caused by many things, but I was just suspicious enough to reimage the hard drive.
Hooooooooo-kay. Fine troubleshooting there, Jimbo. You're the frickin' editor of PC Magazine and you don't know how to secure your own system or scan it for malware? Pathetic. (And don't miss the part in that March story where Jim explains why he doesn't need to use encryption on his wireless network. Yikes!)
Lessons learned:
All anecdotes are equal, but some are more equal than others. The Vista system I'm working on right now sleeps and resumes perfectly, It's a model network citizen. It doesn't crash. I've been amazingly productive with it. I have two notebooks and three more desktop systems working equally well, and I could introduce you to friends and neighbors who tell nearly identical stories. You won't read any of those Vista success stories on Slashdot or Digg, though, because they don't fit into the accepted narrative.
Vista-bashing is the ticket to online success. I've said it before, but it bears repeating: I could literally double my income if I went into the Vista-bashing business. Want to guess how many times Jim Louderback's writing was featured on Slashdot in the last four years? Only once, until he pushed the "Vista sucks" button.
The new standard of success for Windows Vista is absolute perfection. Any problems that occur, regardless of whether they're actually caused by a lack of drivers, by faulty hardware, by incompatible software, or by counterproductive "optimizations," are Windows Vista's fault. No, Vista is not perfect, but issues are inevitable when dealing with millions of combinations of components in the Windows ecosystem. If perfection is your standard, you should not build your own PC, and you should definitely not run Windows Vista on it.
I can't wait to read Jim's account of his experiences switching to Linux. It should be pure comedy gold.
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Talkback
True dat!
RE: No more Vista whining, please
Poor, poor, Ed
The "whine" about Vista is straightforward: in daily use it behaves as if it was written by people who were more concerned with troweling over problems than designing software correctly.
Any idiot can decide on first blush that something is just dandy: who doesn't love that new car smell? But after being nagged by the OS and after having it dodge your best efforts to make real use of its flagship features you might decide after all that, hey, this thing is way more trouble than it's worth.
This thing is way more trouble than it's worth. Next time write a substantive column about something relevant.
PC Mag will be lucky to be in business this time next year
I used to work for Ziff-Davis (no relation to ZDNet). The company is in serious financial trouble.
Like I said, if I wanted to maximize my income, at least for the short term, I would go into the Vista-bashing business. I certainly wouldn't go work for a dying magazine.
That would be too bad
No, they're in financial trouble
OT All tech press is sliding down the slippery slope
Long time print pubs have passed (I still have the last issues of Byte, The Industry Standard, InfoWorld and others) and I miss them. Industry publications, both in print and on-line are flagging right along with interest in the industry itself.
Who knows, maybe the next administration will be jazzed about tech and be the spark of a new life in the industry.
It's not just "tech press" it's "publications" in general
of the occasional phenom like Harry Potter print is in a terrible state and change is a
happening.
Pagan jim
I use to love hard copy
You forgot the real kicker
BYTE was trash
Why Vista War?
Sometimes I get the feeling these wars against Vista (more specifically Microsoft) are only a subterfuge by people who simply love to destroy (anything) and are comfortable hating things. These complaines should get a life.
How can any product on the face of the earth matter? Life is too short to have strong opinions that have nothing to do with eternal life values.
Amen
True enough. It's sometime fun to read these blogs and talkbacks, but it's often disturbing to see how seriously some people take this stuff.
Carl Rapson
What the heck is an "eternal life value"?
have food, shelter, and relative health then our minds tend to wander. Our
survival is assured so we tend to go off on all sort of things that are not important
in all reality but still we can imagine them to be. Take the guy who loves his car
and spends a lot of time and money on it's upkeep. Society collapses tomorrow
just how long do you tink he'd give one wit about said car?
I suppose we all could become monk like a spend our lives contiplating God and
such but I'm not a believer so that's out for me anyway. And I tend to think even
for most believers the surest way to loose one's faith is too spend too much time
thinking about it...heh heh heh...seriously. I love cheesecake and I could eat it 24
\7 but I'm sensible enough to know it's not good for me and eventually I would
grow SICK of it and not want to see or hear about cheesecake again. I think that is
true for most things even things we love most of all too much of it and it tends to
wear on us. Besides I've lived long enough to know I can achieve me goals without
help from the image of a God........all I need to be is a good man and I don't need
no god for that.
Pagan jim
where did you see someone
I guess all i can say is where did the idea of "good" originate? If we evolved from apes, how did the idea of what is good behavior and what is bad evolve? How would it have been known? It can't be inherent if we evolved from monkeys whe are only here by random chance that seaweed grew and evolved into thinking humans with emotions and a sub conscious etc. Where did the sub conscious come from....organic?
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Yeah, lot's of questions but when your days are numbered doesn't it seem like hedging your bet might be smart? If there is nothing, then nothing changes, but just the outside chance there is, why stand defiant to it? Surely nobody has a clue. <br><
You know what else if funny. Scientific theory changes year to year sometimes. Dating techniques are found to flawed. Creatures that were said by scientists to have been extinct for billions of years are found alive and kicking off the coast of Japan....seems like every year it's discovered the creatures supposedly only existing on a planet that is billions and billions of years old....pop up alive and well. <br>
What is really amazing, for every time scientific theory is proven wrong, nobody has every proven one statement in the bible to be conclusively wrong. Not the dates, not the places, not the events. In fact they are being proven more and more now....but never disproven. given the track records of both, that silly book seems to be the only one with an unblemished track record. How silly is that? <br>
Plus look at our Sun. It's a young star. It's still mostly hydrogen. Given the size of our star, it could not have been formed and burning for more than roughly 15,000. years. Which is about the age of the Earth. There is nothing to disprove that. <br>
There are just my opinions and not said in a strong manner. Only stating what I know....or think i know.
I was giving an "example" not about he going on and on
counter reaction in my case if I ate cheesecake 24\7 I'd soon grow tired of it even
HATE it. It's the classic Minister's Daughter joke a girl raised in a conservative
christian environment is the wildest vixen you could meat!!!! heh heh heh....that is
why I always felt kind of sad I was not lucky enough to go to HS in the bible
belt...:P And I used that as an example of the whole search for "eternal life values"
or some such sure people should look into this as part of a whole life but let's not
get carried away shall we? I mean yes people do get too serious about cars and
computers and such but you can even get too serious about spirituality and you
very well may drive not only youself away from you goal like me and cheesecake
but you could drive those you care most about away as well like your children who
are cheesecaked out about the same time heir hormones start to kick in...a deadly
combination.
Pagan jim
still don't understand why
I think I was trying to say......
and yes devleop a liking for said. Sure someone should spend sometime looking for
greater meaning even if in the end they do not find said the search makes us all
better. But there is room enough in everyone's lives as long as they have the basics
to do it all and enjoy.....
Pagan jim
Jesus want's his spirit back.
Being a good man...not difficult to know.
theft at least amoungst themselves even cheating on one's spouse was fround
upon looked as another form of theft. These concepts were not Jewish nor
Christian to being with but rather simple rules to prevent a society from tearing
itself apart. Can you imagine something like that living in a collective of people
with no regulation against killing and theft? Come on it just would not have and
could not have happend and we have plenty of record to show non jewish and non
chrisstian societies were ruled by laws and traditions that regulated such. How do
I know I am a good man without God or a claimed manual by said? Trial and error
my friend I live, I learn and I adapt to the knowledge and experiance I gain from
said. I don't claim to be perfect but that does not bother me for I can learn., and I
don't need no book to tell me. No not going to stone anyone either no matter
what a book says.
As for the bible sure it has it's historical points and burried towns and such are
being discovered to back the record up to a degree. But I don't see a lot of
evidence to back up other claims like David and Goliath for instance. In other
world you can prove that towns and cites existed but I still find it difficult to prove
actual events...the whole fish and loves thing for instance. Curing of the lepers.
Yes science is in a constant state of flux and I LIKE that about it. It learns and
adapts makes theorys and therims and has to change when never information
presents itself and yes the old saw about monkeys has changed quite a bit as new
evidence presents itself in fact I don't think chimps are a direct decendant but
rather a branch that went one dirrection and we another. And science and fossils
have shown that there have been many branches that have existed and ended and
now we have US, various chimps and monkeys and even great apes and
gorillas...all branches but our common ancestor is in the past or at least I think
that is more closely aligned with the theory today but again it's not a belief but a
theory and it can or eventually will be proven or changed as new evidence is
found.
As for creatures I love the finding of new creatures both those thought to be long
dead and or those that are new all together. Still you notice they are smallish
creaturs who found living environments where man has yet to invade and are in
very limited quantities no wonder they were thought to be extinct one can hardly
blame science. Find me a T-Rex and I'll be impressed.....No wait you can find a T-
rex or at least a relative grab a chicken. Back in the day scientists thought they
were all giant lizards (Knowing lizards as I do I did not myself think this possible
something to do with heat and size and seeing my iquana react to having to little
warmth it made no sense to me) now science see's most as being a ancient
relative of the bird and there for being more warm blooded then ever before and
the bird is an excellent example of adaptation and evolution when conditions
change you either adapt or die.
As for the Sun I will have to defer to the majority of legitimate scientific evidence
and theory on that one because I an no expert but I do know this much many who
claim to have a doctorate in front of their names and a scientific degree have turnt
out not to be so. Take the guy who owned a computer outfit I worked for called
himself Dr blankedy blank. Now many people thought his Dr was in computer
science because that was his buisness but not it was in Oceanography he just did
not tell anyone the difference and he got a lot of respect and assumtion of
knowledge that he frankly did not deserve. Still I will admit I just don't know for I
am no Dr.
Pagan jim