Not one, but two Windows service packs

Not one, but two Windows service packs

Summary: A newly released document filed with the U.S. District Court supervising the Microsoft antitrust case reveals some detals about two long-awaited Windows updates. Yes, Virginia, there will be a Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista, and there's news about the long-delayed Service Pack 3 for Windows XP, too.

TOPICS: Microsoft, Windows

Late last night, the U.S. and state attorneys leading the enforcement effort in the antitrust judgment against Microsoft filed their latest joint status report (a PDF copy of the report is available via the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, which also has a tidy wrap-up).

I’m still reading the report, but these two tidbits jumped out at me:

Yes, Virginia, there will be a Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista. According to the report, “Microsoft will deliver the required changes [to desktop search functionality] in Service Pack 1 of Windows Vista, which Microsoft currently anticipates will be available in beta form by the end of the year.” That strongly implies that SP1 won’t be ready for final shipment until well into 2008.

The on-again, off-again Service Pack 3 for Windows XP appears to be on again. According to the report, “Microsoft has agreed to make changes to Windows XP, two Middleware Products, and Windows Live Messenger. …
Changes for Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player will be made available to users in August 2007 … The Windows XP changes will be incorporated into Service Pack 3 for Windows XP.” Alas, no clues on the actual release date, but I’m placing my bets on early 2008, after SP1 for Vista.

Topics: Microsoft, Windows

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  • "Early" after "well into"?


    That strongly implies that [Vista] SP1 won?t be ready for final shipment until well into 2008.


    Alas, no clues on the actual release date [of XP SP3], but I?m placing my bets on early 2008, after SP1 for Vista.

    Me, I'm guessing that SP 1 will be released to coincide with the 1 year anniversary of general release, and XP 3 will follow within the month.

    Starting a pool?
    Anton Philidor
    • History is on your side

      The first service packs for Windows 95 and Windows XP were released roughly a year after launch. On the other hand, Windows 2000 Sp1 was out about five months after launch. So who knows?

      I'll put my money on March 1, which is well into 2008 but still early in the year.
      Ed Bott
  • MSWinVista SP1

    Given the popular wisdom in business circles of, "never install MS software until SP1," it only makes sense for MS to rush out SP1 as quickly as possible.

    After SP1, though, service packs are a net liability. A service pack for a product that they are trying to obsolete is a double liability and the only reasons to issue one are:

    * at some point it's easier to support a rollup than a hodgepodge of separate patches, and
    * it's a convenient launchpad for getting customers to adopt changes (e.g. IE7) that are meeting resistance otherwise.
    Yagotta B. Kidding
    • New products in Service Packs

      As a rollup a Service Pack makes sense.

      If a Windows user were to run Belarc Adviser on a computer with XP SP2, the list of updates confirmed fills a large portion of the report. (The Adviser also notes missing patches, which can be useful.)

      Having one integrated rollup can solve many problems. I agree.

      But making a new product part of a service pack adds unnecessary complications. Almost all users will want the new product because it's trusted to be an improvement, but some will have to test it.

      IE 7, for example, includes some compromise with "standards" developed in antagonism to Microsoft. Becoming more "standards" compliant can have a detrimental effect on hundreds of millions of past efforts, so that will prove an exception to the generally welcoming response to new products.

      The new products can and should be made available through Windows Update, a good way to notify people, and, because upgrade is not an issue for most users, a painless way to obtain the improvement.
      Anton Philidor
  • A need Focus on Google instead of Microsoft

    Instead of worrying about Google getting access to MS OS, why not start focusing on Google's abuse of our private data?

    Did you know that Google maintains user & IP specific data linking YOU to what you searched for, emailed on, purchased, etc for 18-24 MONTHS.

    I learned a lot in the article at EWeek,1895,2147350,00.asp

    EWeek mentions an alternate search engine that purges ALL user connected personal information is 48 HOURS.

    Read more about Google's data retention as well that of a public AOL database, and much more at

    Think about it before you search Google next time.

    • A hawk on the horizon

      Is not a valid reason to ignore the
      gargantuan buzzard roosting in the

      Besides, Google is not releasing a
      service pack, not to mention two service
      Ole Man
  • Service pack for XP?!

    XP is SO legacy man. My rep and I are using Vista and just keep saying WOW over and over again. The other day I downloaded a "gadget" that gave me the weather in ANY city in the world. My rep and I checked the climates in our usual destinations all through Vista. Why ANYONE would want to run XP at all is beyond me. As my rep says, "the eXPerience was great, but it is TIME TO WOW". I told my rep he could donate our XP SP3 beta CD to a local non-profit if he wanted to. He said he would look into it to make sure the non-profits were fully licensed before he did it.
    Mike Cox
    • TIme to WOW is in XP NOW

      You should have tried one of the Vista toolbars for XP SP2.
      It does the same thing with the weather & costs alot less!
      I have Vista Ultimate(64bit), on a Core2duo 2.6Ghz(OCed to 3.2Ghz) PC with 4GB of DDR667Mhz and a 8800GTS(one more on the way for SLI) & 2 x 74GB 10,000RPM Raptor's in RAID 0

      After I installed the updates to Vista Ultimate, and got my programs installed(office Pro 2003, and 20 others) Vista took almost 2 minutes to boot, and was crawling along...
      I had to go get a 2GB titanium Cruzer, to BOOST Vista to even perform, close to XP's performance...
    • 8.5... Good one..

      Got one hook line and stinker..
      • RE: 8.5... Good one..

        And another one bites, another one bites, another one bites the dust! Only 8.5? He gets extra credit for the fish, doesn't he? Should be at least a 9.0, maybe more.
        • 9.3

          For fishing one in so damn quick!
          Bite Me_Ax_Moron
  • That's right, let's just remove useful features...

    ...and let Google collect the usage data, and then ?enhance? their product at our expense. We all know that Google desktop search calls home every time a data query is requested. Let?s face it, Windows Instant Search is one of the most, if not the most useful features available in Vista. Ever since I installed Vista, I was able to stop filing my files and email, because with the Instant Search they are easy to find.

    For once, Microsoft was able to solve real business problem, and now they are being punished for it, by no other than Google that claimed the web-search space some time ago, gathering myriad of information, and uses it as they please.

    Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to defend Microsoft, but just a feature within the OS that is truly valuable to the end-user.
    • Competition hurts!

      Two thieves are better than one.
      Ole Man
    • I think you misunderstood the turn out of the case...

      From what I gathered from the results of the case. Microsoft has to provide ways for Google, and other search engines, that use the Microsoft platform, equal competition. From what I see, instead of using the built in Windows Vista search, you can use that, but with Google's functionality. I don't think that they are making Microshaft remove their desktop search feature and it's entirety, they just want you to basically, do what you do with FireFox, choose which search engine you want, but the functionality remains relatively untouched.