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Remembering Windows XP's early days

By | February 25, 2008, 9:36am PST

I am amused by the current lovefest going on with Windows XP. It’s the greatest operating system ever, in the minds of some, especially compared to the allegedly bloated, slow Windows Vista. In fact, InfoWorld has gone so far as to kick off a “Save XP” petition drive.

Vista bashers really hate it when you point out that the same criticisms being leveled at Vista today were commonly aimed at XP after its launch. Fortunately, I’ve found a near-perfect example of this trend. It’s illuminating, and ironically, it comes from InfoWorld blogger Randall Kennedy, who has been bashing Vista and hyping the “Save XP” campaign relentlessly on his Enterprise Desktop blog. His latest entry dismisses any comparison between Vista now and XP then:

One of the arguments I hear in defense of Windows Vista’s bloated footprint is that it’s simply a repeat of the situation faced by users when Windows XP first shipped. Back then, the logic goes, users were complaining about Windows XP’s CPU and memory requirements, with many resisting the upgrade push because they simply didn’t want to make the necessary hardware commitment. …

However, the truth is that “Windows 6.0″ [Vista] is really only the second mainstream iteration of the current Windows platform (Windows 2000 doesn’t count since it was never a mainstream product). As such, there simply is no real precedent from which to draw such conclusions.

In the same post, Kennedy goes on to rhapsodize over Windows XP:

As those of us who remember can attest, the jump from DOS/Windows to Windows XP was a quantum leap forward in Microsoft’s OS architecture. …

The introduction of Windows XP was a watershed moment for the PC industry, one that firmly cemented Microsoft’s role as the pace-setter for the desktop.

Yes, XP was totally awesome when it was officially released on October 25, 2001. A quantum leap forward. A watershed moment for the PC.

Or not. Thankfully, Google is here to step in and help out some of us old fogies who’ve been in the industry for 20 years or so and can’t quite remember things as clearly as we used to.

Those of us who are willing to supplement our memories with some help from Google can attest that XP was not welcomed with open arms. In fact, it was slammed by magazines like InfoWorld, where P. J. Connolly and the very same Randall C. Kennedy published this not-so-glowing review in the October 26, 2001 issue:

Hopeless optimism must be a fundamental part of human nature, because we want to believe that new operating systems truly represent an improvement on their predecessors. It’s easy to point to certain features in a new OS as examples of progress, but end-users often find that a new OS performs like molasses compared to the version they were using. As a result, CTOs wanting to capitalize on the benefits of a new OS may find that new hardware investments are necessary — and expensive — requirements.

Unfortunately, Microsoft’s Windows XP appears to be maintaining that tradition …

Windows 2000 significantly outperformed Windows XP. In the most extreme scenario, our Windows XP system took nearly twice as long to complete a workload as did the Windows 2000 client. Our testing also suggests that companies determined to deploy Windows XP should consider ordering desktop systems with dual CPUs to get the most out of the new OS. …

Sound familiar?

Let’s compare and contrast those 2007 statements with their 2001 counterparts. Remember, this is the same publication, with the same author’s name in the by-line.

On Windows 2000:

2001: “IT departments should take advantage of license downgrade provisions and continue to press forward with Windows 2000 deployments until the installed hardware base catches up with XP.”

2007: “Windows 2000 doesn’t count since it was never a mainstream product.”

On why your old OS was better:

2001: “Windows XP increasingly ate the dust of Windows 2000 as load ramped up, regardless of machine specs or Office version.”

2007: “[E]xhaustive testing confirms that Windows Vista is at least twice as slow as Windows XP when running on the same hardware.”

On hardware:

2001: “[U]ntil 2GHz desktop PCs become commonplace, we have a hard time recommending widespread adoption of Windows XP at all.”

2007: “Windows XP SP3 … absolutely screams on today’s high-end, multi-core desktops.”

On “bloated” new features:

2001: “Shops lured by XP features should weigh their options carefully. In many cases, these features may not be compelling enough to justify saddling your end-users with a slower OS.”

2007: “Vista, which is basically Windows XP with more “stuff” heaped on top, and you begin to see why so many users are balking at the upgrade message. There’s simply not enough “meat” to justify the pain involved.”

Get the picture? Back in 2001, Kennedy and InfoWorld were bashing XP and recommending that their readers stay with Windows 2000. Today, they’re bashing Vista and hawking their “save XP” campaign. But judging by the progression that XP made in six years, all that the Windows Vista architecture needs is time and a hardware replacement cycle or two.

And we’ll be able to read all about in InfoWorld’s “Save Vista” campaign. 

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RE: Remembering Windows XP's early days
FAULKNE 13th Oct
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good one
ggarg@... 25th Feb 2008
nice one...goes for all Vista basher...hope infoworld guy read this...
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How is this "a good one"?
welcomeBeenie 26th Feb 2008
There are in fact those of us, that hated XP when it came, and STILL do. And the same goes for Vista. I use Server 2003 on my three Windows computers and Linux and Open Enterprise on the rest. I have a couple of virtual XP computers since I have too. It's part of my job. And now, it seems, I have to install Vista for the second time. The first time was testing the thing for 4 months.

The circus/Christmas tree look of XP, and the removal of several useful shortcuts everytime a new version of Windows is released (remember F8 in Explorer), doesn't help some of us think that "Hey, that's ok now. I can get used to XP." It looks so freakin' childish!

I don't want an operating system that I have to spend 4 minutes adjusting, tuning and tweaking everytime I reinstall the darn thing. I know about Ghost, WDS, and bla bla, but some of us work as troubleshooters and have to have several different types of installations and test these frequently.
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Nice line in the sand.
rtk 26th Feb 2008
An OS you can adjust, tune and tweak in 4 minutes, point me at it.

Once it exists, that is.
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water + fire
emenau 27th Feb 2008
= hissssssssssssss

more water on the bigger flames: So, what dit they NOT learn from the XP mistakes? Anyway, we are the stupid customers who PAY for their bugs. Exept the ones who use the betatest copy.

... Only an intelligent fool makes things bigger and more complicated. (Albert Enstein)

Sweet dreams.

M.
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Server 2008
ILoveMicrosoft 15th May 2008
If you prefer windows server 2003 over XP or Vista on your workstation I recommend you go for Windows server 2008, it is faster,more lighweight, easier to confugure and yeah if you absolutly want the aero desktop on it is doable with a little effort. Windows server 2008 boots twice as fast as xp or server 2003, it uses less memory the server 2003 and it has full support for the latest hardware. By the way, I run Server 2008 standard x64 on my workstation. (PS not recommended for the avarage pc user, you should be an IT pro before going for this solution)
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If people wanna buy alpha software because it has a big brand name on it, hey, that's how it works.

If people wanna buy water in bottles and create huge landfill problems, hey, that's great, they make a profit and the world loses out.

You can't educate pork.
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Total Bull
FredOneSaid 28th Feb 2008
In no way was xp nearly as bad as vista, I am no techie, but I do remember well when xp came out, took a little time to get use to and for manufacturers to catch up which was in no time than off to the races.

But with vista you got to be kidding me, not even close, many manufacturers still havent cought up and many that did are still having problems with software, its a total dog, mistakes all over the place, and I'm not talking just about me, I see people bringing back new pc's constantly in stores like best buy and circuitcity, I see the frustration in the salesmans eyes, I see vista pc's in the hundreds for sale on sites like craigslist and others and minimal xp used sales, just talk to the people in the trenches out there, we the public, the regular guys not what some techies want you to hear, I hear people screaming about this trash OS, and not even to mention the DRM crap vista laid on us, and this guy wants to defend this manure of a system, what a joke, this guy that wrote this article, what happined, did you get paid by microsoft, are you guys trading favors or something, cause none of it makes sense.
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Congrats.
rtk 28th Feb 2008
You've managed to post just about every anecdotal, irrational piece of FUD imagined by the hard-core ABMer. There's not one truth in either paragraph.
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Each new OS has the same problem
aka_tripleB@... 5th Mar 2008
They require more resourses. That's because people add more features and almost never take any out. PC manufacturers have more to blame with Vista's "poor" performance than Microsoft. Just look what was on store shelves when Vista came out; it was basically what has been used for XP. Now that manufacturers are releasing beefier machines, and Vista is starting to look less bloated. OSX would have the same problem if Apple wasn't in complete control of its hardware and release new hardware almost simutaneously with new OSs. And Linus installes with only the bare essentials turned on or even installed. You have to turn on individual services you need and install IM clients, Codecs for video and audio, amoung other things. Once you install everything, it will be bogged down. And much of the bloat on Windows is installed by the manufacturer, not Microsoft; maybe that's why my custom computer I built myself work so well. And it was built for XP, but has no problem with Vista. The only thing that has changed since I installed Vista is the graphics card, which was something that I just wanted to do, not something that was actually needed.

As far as DRM, Microsoft did not decide to put them in to annoy users; it was required in agreements have certain functionalities available for Windows.
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Unreal
Cayble 9th Sep 2008
Ok, I'm not going to say that you are telling lies, perhaps its possible that you just travel in some weird circle where people with Vista have been overly prone to glitches and breakdowns. It's possible I suppose.

Now for the rest of the world; there is no major problem with Vista. I personally know may users, I use it myself at work, and I haven't even heard of someone returning a computer or laptop due to an issue with Vista. I personally cannot justify (yet) spending the money on a new OS for my home computers when XP still works so well, but I certainly use Vista every day at work, and I have done that for many months and Vista seems to work just fine without issue.

So, if you live in some strange warp zone where Vista is crashing out computers left right and centre, thats a shame. You should move into the rest of the world where Vista is apparently working just fine.
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Wow, very awesome job. Replica Panerai Watches
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Awesome
soonerproud 25th Feb 2008
It is amazing how it is the very same people that loathed XP in 2001 are now calling it the greatest OS ever. These people live to rehash the same old tired arguments they had against XP.
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Live to rehash...
jacarter3 25th Feb 2008
Yes, MS has lived to rehash and recommit all of the same problems that they dumped upon us 5 years ago.

Way to go MS!
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yes yes
rtk 25th Feb 2008
Of course Apple or a random Linux distro would handle the conversion of hundreds of millions of machines perfectly.

Unfortunately we'll never get to see it happen in real life, Apple's forums burst with just a few dozen million.
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Does mean we shouldn't hold Microsoft to higher standard.
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What you meant .....
ShadeTree 26th Feb 2008
... "Doesn't". What you said "Does". In effect your saying we shouldn't hold Microsoft to a higher standard which is correct. So even when you were wrong it was correct. We shouldn't hold them to a higher standard.
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Eh?
CreepinJesus 26th Feb 2008
That made no sense.
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Actually it did
tikigawd 26th Feb 2008
Too bad you didn't understand it
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We shouldn't hold MS
jacarter3 26th Feb 2008
to any standard.

Wow! Come to think of it MS does this very well. It conforms to no known standards and breaks many that we do know and that the rest of the world tries to comply with.

Regarding a "higher" standard, we certainly cannot expect from MS a "higher" one as they have shown repeatedly in the past that they can't achieve that. Only an idiot would expect MS to hold a "higher" standard of product quality, customer service and customer regard.

I personally don't hold MS to any "standard" as I try very diligently not use their damaged products, which by the way is ALL OF THEM.
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I disagree
voska1 26th Feb 2008
Microsoft has created some great software in the past and some really crappy software. Some example I'd say are Access databases, Excel (not the rest of Office though), Windows 2000, and Visual studio. Was there something better? Maybe but at the time when these products where in their prime they were great.
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exaggeration and hyperbole
rtk 26th Feb 2008
The only thing substandard is your understanding of the IT marketplace.
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Sure we should
voska1 26th Feb 2008
Personally as a Windows user I'd like to see a better OS not just the same as Apple or Linux. I also believe Microsoft is perfectly capable of delivering that. They have created some great software in the past so I'm sure it's not all downhill from here. I want to see a Microsoft OS that you can clearly say does it better than Linux and OS X. Today with Vista I can't really say that but I have my hopes up for Windows 7.
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rtk, RTFA
jacarter3 26th Feb 2008
No one mentioned Linux or Mac OS-X but you. But now that you mention it, I have not any any of the problems described here while upgrading or updating my Linux laptops or MacBook Pro.

But thanks for caring.
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RTSF
rtk 26th Feb 2008
Read the Support Forums.

Every upgrade will negatively affect some small percentage, it's just when you're dealing with a few percentage points of the overall marketshare (in the case of Apple) or fractions of a percentage (in the case of Linux) that it "appears" to be less widespread.

The point of course being, as a direct comment to your "way to go MS" comment, is that the alternatives aren't any better, and more often than not are far worse.
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Why?
jacarter3 28th Feb 2008
I explore the support forums only for SUPPORT. Having no need of that for Linux or Mac OS, then why bother? I do look up a lot about Windows though but not at any Microsoft internet asset. I used to, but never found MS admitting that anyone had my problem. Most of the Windows problems were repaired by removing a recent MS update anyway.


I see your understanding of the "IT" industry is limited to advocating and promoting the very same problems that secure your gainful employment for the process of repairing them. MS is a real money maker to Windows problem solvers like yourself. It's a complete drain of resources and productivity for the hapless idiots forced to use the infrastructure you're paid to prop up. As a business owner and not an "IT" guy, I see things from an entirely different perspective than you and if I could, you're fired. But instead I eliminated my need for Windows and your services, and just in time because with a tightening economy, who can afford to pay for MS anymore?
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re:Why?
rtk 28th Feb 2008
Ok, let me see if I'm following, since you're jumping topics anytime your point is refuted....

You seem to be of the mistaken impression that Apple and/or Linux is some panacea. You'll continue to need support contracts regardless of vendor, Apple uses commodity hardware, no difference there besides the case. Since you're not an "IT" guy, you'll continue to need services as well, if you want to do more than make hella-cool websites for your cat.

As a business owner, you might consider leaving the technology decisions up to those that have experience and knowledge, rather than just listening to the marketing and paid shills like Goatberg.
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Except that succeeding .....
arminw 26th Feb 2008
version of OSX get faster, rather than slower on the same hardware. OS10.5 is noticeably faster than OS10.4 was.

VISTA running on the same Mac with Parallels is a a lot slower than XP on that same
Mac. XP is also slower that 2000, but not by much.
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Totally false and unsupported comment.
ShadeTree 27th Feb 2008
Would you like to point us to a single benchmark that shows OSX gets faster with every iteration? I didn't think so because there aren't any! Each new version includes more code making OS's slow down not speed up.
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Problems?
No_Ax_to_Grind 25th Feb 2008
Explain the problem YOU are having and I am certain we can a 12 year old to fix it for you.
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You're right Bitty
jacarter3 26th Feb 2008
A 12 year old could fix Linux but you couldn't.

The problems to which I refer are the ones that Ed is trying to spin as being the same on XP's release and Vista's. Get it?

Prolly not so ask that 12 year old to explain it to you...
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So true
voska1 26th Feb 2008
I've seen 12 year old pull some crazy stuff in Windows to get around security settings that prevent them from downloading malicious code or surfing for porn. One kid I say set up boot able Linux disk to bypass the security on school PC. You'd think they would have the firewall locked down or at least monitored but nope this kid was getting away with murder network wise.
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Too many idiots
fr0thy 27th Feb 2008
... ie consumers who know nothing wandering around and passing themselves off as IT literate.

Why can't you learn Linux? Because it doesn't say Microsoft as it boots up. If it did, you'd be raving about it.
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Becuase I run BOTH on my laptop, and prefer Windows. Linux has too many...quirks for me (like having to COMPILE a program to install it. They have no equiv i can find of that handy EXE file installer)
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Same arguments hold on XP
voska1 25th Feb 2008
Heck I'd still be using Windows 2000 if it supported my hardware. I still have the exact same gripes about XP that I had when it first came out. I live with those gripes today and it seems like Vista just adds to the pile.
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Maybe you just can't ....
ShadeTree 26th Feb 2008
... learn new tricks. You wouldn't be an old dog would you?
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Ah I just accept it and move on
voska1 26th Feb 2008
Most as in 99% of my gripes with XP were cosmetic. Don't like that I have to click here then there to get something done. There are few issues I have with XP in how Microsoft tries to make things simple for the end user that seem to cause me grief. Like the driver roll back that doesn't work if XP thinks you should be using a faulty driver. That one is a real pain the rear. I had to get utility from Omega drivers to clean out my video drivers off the system. A new trick for example.

Vista is the same. I hate how they've buried some stuff in the UI. It's something I can live with though. I suspect I'll bump into more things where the OS is trying to be helpful but is actually getting in my way. The helpful OS is handy for someone with out a clue, they'd be lost in Linux for sure but I know what I'm doing and just want to change something. It makes me angry with Microsoft at the time but they I get it working and move on.
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UI = teh sux0r
friedtoast@... 26th Feb 2008
I agree that the UI is horrible. Some things are a PITA to get to in XP. Vista makes it much, much worse.
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More "experts" should be forced to revisit their predictions. I found an old Wired magazine that said text messaging was on the way out. It's cute, but why would people go to all that trouble when we already have e-mail?

A lot of people learned the risks of being an early OS adopter with the 98/SE disaster. Microsoft will never get that kind of first day buying frenzy again because of it. The first release of anything that complex isn't going to be perfect. Never has been (Windows 3.0 anyone?). But just promoting "wait and see" as common sense doesn't make you sound like an expert or guru on anything.
Get a clue.

XP today enjoys several YEARS worth of hardware upgrades. The current installed base didn't EXIST several years ago.

The truth of the matter is that Microsoft LIES about minimum hardware requirements. They specifically target a new OS at hardware of the near future.

The moral of the story is take things slowly. Only upgrade to the new OS when you buy new hardware. Let the old systems run the more stable, previous OS until you're ready to retire it.

And don't listen to pseudo-pros that don't understand all this.
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What 'must have' features does Vista bring to the table? A more painful WGA? More DRM? XP does everything Vista can but faster.

Xp upgraders could also count on XP to run on the hardware that was already out there; Vista rarely can. Vista is so bloated and slow, not even Ed Bott can save it.
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I'll check back when Windows 7 releases and hear how vista was the best OS ever and how Window's 7 sucks. It has been that way with every Windows release. To deny it is to put your head in the sand.
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Some of us couldn't wait for XP
MyLord 26th Feb 2008
In the consumer market it was 98 and Millennium which would crash daily if not hourly. XP had issues but they were trivial in comparison. Not quite like Vista where Internet Explorer fails to work unless run as administrator half three quarters of the time.
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Important Differences
bmgoodman 25th Feb 2008
One difference today is that XP was allowed to mature for over 6 years. During that time, the OS largely became "good enough", people became comfortable, and did not miss the "upgrade treadmill".

When XP came out, it is true that many didn't feel it to be a compelling upgrade. But how long did corporate users live with Windows 2000 before XP arrived? I'm not sure they had the time to get too acclimatized to W2K.

Also, don't forget that before XP, home users were largely on some flavor of Win 9x. And surely XP, despite some initial weeping and gnashing of teeth, was a better OS than Win ME.

Really, if Vista had been released at the time Core 2 came out (or perhaps Pentium D), MS could have used the new CPU as a springboard to sell Vista. But they missed the window and now there's no new hardware shift to drive Vista sales.

They lost me when I felt that the biggest "reason" for going to Vista was to make sure MS had me in their complete control, DRM-wise.

I'm still no fan of Linux, so I think I'm staying with XP for as long as I possibly can. Eventually, once XP is no longer being supported, I can see myself running Vista in a virtual machine that I use to access the Internet. Or maybe Linux. Hopefully that will help keep XP from being infected, because XP will still be my main OS until I find the futuristic OS that does true voice control.
1 year old. So, of course there was not much compelling about XP. It is quite different to here this criticism when the last desktop release was 6 years ago. You should have people clamoring for the update like they did for Win95.

Really, Vista is a big failure compared to Win95.
that standard, Vista is a complete failure.
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Compared to Windows 95
Ed Bott 26th Feb 2008
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Windows 95 i irrelevant.
InnocentBystander 26th Feb 2008
As a consumer product, you may possibly say that Vista can be compared back to Windows 95, but as an OS, there is no comparison.

Windows 2000/XP/Vista are all based on Windows NT, which was NOT based on previous Windows versions. If you look under the hood, it has more in common with OpenVMS than with Windows95.

Have a look at Windows 95. By todays standard it is extremely primitive.
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Actually, Windows 2000
alaniane@... 26th Feb 2008
was based on Windows NT line which goes back to at least Windows NT 3.5 desktop/server(I forget what the first release was; it may have been 3.1). So, Windows was based on a previous version of Windows, but not the Windows 9.x line.
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How so?
AllKnowingAllSeeing 14th May 2008
How is Vista is a complete failure compared to Win95?
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