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Some standards are more open than others

By | January 23, 2012, 4:20pm PST

Summary: Ace Apple-watcher John Gruber thinks Apple is perfectly within its rights to build a proprietary, incompatible version of the open EPUB digital book standard. It’s not their business to reduce the cross platform burdens of the publishing industry, he says. So why do they still belong to a standards body pledged to do just that?

As I wrote earlier, Apple has decided to throw the open EPUB standard for digital books under the bus with its new iBooks format. It’s built on the EPUB standard, but it’s filled with proprietary and undocumented extensions that make it completely nonstandard. Others can and probably will reverse-engineer it, but that’s a dangerous game to play.

I’ve gotten an earful from readers who defend Apple’s decision. Their bookstore, their rules, the argument goes.

The top defender is ace Apple-watcher John Gruber, who has been slowly and publicly changing his mind on the new iBooks format and accompanying license agreement over the past few days. First he said it was “Apple at its worst,”  And then he began backtracking.

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The output of iBooks Author is, as far as I can tell, HTML5 — pretty much ePub 3 with whatever nonstandard liberties Apple saw fit to take in order to achieve the results they wanted. It’s not a standard format in the sense of following a spec from a standards body like the W3C…

Next:

Apple’s concern is not what’s best for the publishing industry, and it certainly isn’t about what’s best for the makers of (and users of) rival e-book reading devices.

And most recently:

But again, Apple’s not in this game to reduce the cross-platform burdens of the publishing industry. If the publishing industry wants to reduce the number of formats it supports and the hassles of converting from one format to another, Apple’s pitch would be to go exclusive to the iBookstore.

OK, everyone, you got that? It’s just capitalism! Why should Apple care about other companies in the digital publishing industry? Let them go build their own tools and design their own formats!

Except for one little thing. Apple is a member in good standing of the International Digital Publishing Forum, which identifies itself as the “Trade and Standards Organization for the Digital Publishing Industry.”

As a member of the IDPF, Apple most certainly is on record as agreeing to do what Gruber thinks they don’t have to do: reduce the cross-platform burdens of the entire digital publishing industry.

The charter of the IDPF is clearly spelled out on its About Us page. I’ve bold-faced the most interesting parts:

The work of the IDPF promotes the development of electronic publishing applications and products that will benefit creators of content, makers of reading systems, and consumers. The IDPF develops and maintains the EPUB content publication standard that enables the creation and transport of reflowable digital books and other types of content as digital publications that are interoperable between disparate EPUB-compliant reading devices and applications.

Among the goals of the IDPF, to which all of its members subscribe, are the following:

  • Promote industry-wide adoption of electronic publishing through standards development, conferences, best practices, and demonstrations of proven technology.
  • Develop, publish, and maintain common standards (e.g. EPUB) relating to electronic publications and promote the successful adoption of these specifications.
  • Encourage interoperable implementations of EPUB publications and reading systems and provide a forum for resolution of interoperability issues.

As I noted in my earlier post, Apple has bragged for nearly two years about its support of the “industry leading” EPUB standard, “the most popular open book format in the world.”
 
There is no question that the new, proprietary iBooks 2 standard is based on that work. Except none of that work has been shared with or submitted to that standards body.

Perhaps if Apple no longer wants to support open standards in digital publishing, it should resign from the IDPF.

Footnote: Several other readers have pointed out that Amazon uses a proprietary format as well. Indeed they do. But to my knowledge they have never claimed to support open standards—quite the opposite—and they are not members of the IDPF.

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RE: Some standards are more open than others
usr001 29th Jan
By the way, hasn't Bill Gates bought up the rights to the published images of a great number of works of art (i.e. photos of the Mona Lisa, etc.)? How will Gates and Apple intersect?
One word: APP?????
@jkohut A textbook should not be an App!
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A textbook should be ... what, exactly?
WaltFrench@... 24th Jan
@jatbains People who want to write textbooks can continue to use Adobe content management tools and they will continue to spit out ePub documents that work across a wide range of platforms; they can be easily modified to work through others' (Amazon's; B&N's, etc) stores.

But Apple is using the word ???textbook??? loosely; they are trying to help people build interactive learning experiences. Not different from the notion that my phone's calendar does things like alert me when a date is coming due, which a real, paper calendar can't/shouldn't do.

Go ahead and keep using those textbooks; I, for instance keep my stat and math texts close at hand despite having MUCH more functionality in Mathematica and Excel that's not quite yet as useful in learning how Bessel functions, for example, work.

But some of these new ???books??? are gonna be killer great.
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Your new MacDefender Crusade, Ed?
kenosha77a Updated - 23rd Jan
Perhaps Apple will do just that. (Give the specs of iBooks 2 file format to the IDPF)

To use Jason Perlow's favorite word of late, "if" this digital textbook format really proves to be popular with McGraw-Hill, Pearson and other Publishers and "if" the IDPF body REALLY WANTS this file format as an EPUB standard, than Apple "may" do just what you suggest and supply the IDPF with the technical specifications.
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@kenosha77a

Normally a company that is a member of a standards body submits proposals to that body. It doesn't create a finished product with an incompatible bvariation of the standards-compliant format and then decide at some point in the future, "Oh, maybe we'll tell you about this now."
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WaltFrench@... 24th Jan
@Ed Bott Normally, a group like MPEG-LA solicits patent-holders to identify patents that are necessary to a standard they are forming, to prevent submarine patents and facilitate the common good. That in no way prevents them from doing similar work in graphics. In fact, that handcuffing would pretty much guarantee nobody with an ounce of innovation would join a standards consortium.

Especially when they derive no direct revenue from the consortium. You are making up rules or standards that do not exist on the face of this planet.
@Ed Bott isn't Apple doing pretty much what MS tried to do with HTML support? Look how well that went, both for MS (now supporting standards) and web users who had to put up with sites looking radically different on different browsers. In the end, MS didn't so much climb down as climb up onto the next standard, but only after causing themselves and lots of web users massive pain.
@Ed Bott You seem to be missing the point (which Walt French mentions, below, too) that Apple or any company can be a member of a standards body and support those standards and -- at the same time -- do pioneering work that pushes beyond existing standards.

Apple does, in fact, support the EPUB format: iPads and iPhones can read EPUB files using iBooks. That's unequivocal proof that Apple _supports_ EPUB.

But Apple ALSO chooses to support its own proprietary extensions to EPUB. That's their right. And they don't necessarily have to share those extensions with their competitors. That's not the nature of business in a free-market economy. Apple is taking a risk (albeit a calculated one) that folks will embrace its new format -- that publishers will choose to produce ebooks in the new formats, and that consumers (or schools) will choose to buy ebooks produced in that format. If it doesn't work, if people don't buy Apple's iBooks textbooks, Apple will lose its gamble, and probably millions of dollars of development time. But if it works, they get to reap the rewards. That's how business works.

Support standards are pushing the boundaries aren't mutually exclusive.

This is no different than when Microsoft created the .doc file format for Word. Before Word, we had .txt, which worked just fine -- it was (and is) THE standard for text files. But MS wanted to do more than just stuff ASCII characters into a file and save it. They wanted to allow us to store tags that allowed for bold, italic and underlined content. They wanted us to be able to mess with tab stops and paragraph spacing. They wanted us to be able to embed tables and pictures. And later they added countless other advanced data like change tracking data, hidden text, and more. All of which has significantly advanced word processing. But MS still doesn't fully document the .doc file format for competitors to convert and work with. And yet, Word still opens .txt and .rtf files and a ton of others, too.

By your standards, we should be vilifying Microsoft for deviating from the .txt file format standard all those years ago -- or forcing them to share their trade secrets with the world, so that everyone can properly parse and present .doc-formatted data. Or perhaps you'd prefer that all written documents contain only a single font and no styling or formatting?

History shows that Microsoft made a better mousetrap. And people liked it -- enough to choose it over the standards that were (and still are) readily available. Apple is attempting to do the same sort of thing now, with iBook Author.

Remember: the nice thing about standards, is that there are so many of them. And just because a company chooses to "support" one doesn't mean that they have to support _only_ that standard.
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jscott69: but people did vilify MS
toddybottom_z 24th Jan
"By your standards, we should be vilifying Microsoft for deviating from the .txt file format standard all those years ago"

But MS has been vilified for their proprietary formats and their practice of taking standards and improving upon them. That is historical fact. The DoJ even forced MS to do exactly what you claim should never be done:
"And they don't necessarily have to share those extensions with their competitors"

MS absolutely was forced to share their Active Directory protocols with Linux.

You aren't the first person here to suggest that it isn't fair that Apple is being vilified for this behavior since MS isn't. The problem with your argument is that it is factually incorrect. MS has been vilified for years for doing exactly what everyone is defending Apple for doing here and now.
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@Ed Bott

Point taken about your "incompatible bvariation" comment.

I have no experience with this particular IDPF committee. I do have some experience working with a standard's governing body in the automotive manufacturing area, however.

Case in point. Blueprints were undergoing a transformation to Geometric and Design Tolerance based prints during my career. Fun stuff. However, these standards sanctioned by the appropriate governing body were constantly evolving. That didn't stop our engineers from designing product to print GD&T specification callouts that were not sanctioned in the current standard version but were anticipated to become part of the standard in a future standards revision. (Some callouts didn't and the prints had to be reworked at a later date.) But the product still got built.
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Could IPDF stop Apple?
dbret 24th Jan
@Ed Bott. Everyone agrees that the new Apple iBook format is based on EPUB, right?
Now the companies that developed EPUB in IPDF gave IPDF a license to use their ideas (i.e. Intellectul Property) in creating EPUB - see section 3 of the IPDF IP policy at [1]. However I don't think the IPDF IP policy gives the rights to those ideas to anyone else, e.g. Apple, to create their own specifications.

This could mean that the other companies in IPDF that contributed to EPUB may well have a claim against Apple for use of their IP in the Apple variation of EPUB and, in theory, force Apple to pay royalties.

If Apple really wanted to create their own format then they should have started from scratch with original ideas that didn't infringe anyone else's IP - this would be very hard for them to do.

I think the only ones who are likely to be happy with this are the lawyers.
[1] http://idpf.org/sites/idpf.org/files/corporate-documents/IDPF_IP_Policy.pdf
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@Ed Bott Err, you're new aren't you? Apple telegraphing a product launch; that goes in the column labeled "Things that don't happen".
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RE: Some standards are more open than others
jeremychappell Updated - 24th Jan
weird duplicate thingy...
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@Ed Bott : you definitely are coming over the the dark side.....
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@Ed Bott

MS have been doing this for years
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wink

You know this whole etextbook enterprise may turn out to be a big fat flop. Have you read the reviews? Crash, crash and more crash (yes I got to see this FIRST hand) and when it works right the exams are loaded with errors. In which case submitting new standards, only to have to wait for them to be approved, then trying them out would have been an even bigger waste of time than it already may be.

Just saying.
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@oncall

I heard about the crashes and errors from other sources. I downloaded the Algerbra, Geometry and Chemistry textbooks in order to check them out for myself. (I sort of aced those topics in high school but I have a 16 year old nephew who asked about Algebra and pre-Calc textbooks. It seems their high school doesn't even have a geometry textbook to teach with???)

Anyway, I did have a few issues with an initial download problem. It seemed that, for whatever reason, when I downloaded them first into iTunes, the files did not transfer over correctly to my iPad. I ended up deleting those files from both my iPad and my iTunes library and then re-downloaded them into both my iPad 1 and iPad 2 tablets without going thru iTunes first. It worked then.)

So far, I haven't come across crashes in the Algebra textbook and I am still working thru the problems. (I'm retired .. I have time. Grin)
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Daily?
WaltFrench@... 24th Jan
@oncall If it is to be a daily thing, @Ed can go take a cold shower because his hyper-paranoia about Apple controlling our brains won't work. Whew!
purchases in non open standard format and from single source markets and with non transferrable licenses. Period. Apple, android, windows, kindle, et al. can complete on who has the best reader(s) and who's markets have the lowest mark up to get consumers and or schools to purchase their hardware. Apple is clearly in this for the money and this is set up to take the maximum amount of cash out of the education budgets with the maximum amount of lock in. There's no benefit for the students thats not also available outside of the apple ecosytem. They completely dont care that the money they're grabbing comes at the expense of cutting something else.
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@Johnny Vegas

You forget about the Publishers like McGraw-Hill and Pearsons that submit these textbooks into Apple's iBook Store distribution system.

You seem to be against example of free enterprise and the process of how standards come into existence and evolve over time.

The free market will dictate whether this Apple initiative is beneficial both in cost and student learning potential. People are forgetting this.
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@Johnny Vegas

"Period. Apple, android, windows, kindle, et al. can complete on who has the best reader(s) and who's markets have the lowest mark up"

Do you want the best or the cheapest?

"Apple is clearly in this for the money and this is set up to take the maximum amount of cash out of the education budgets with the maximum amount of lock in."

Yep. Apple, like Google, Amazon and MS, are for profit companies.

"There's no benefit for the students thats not also available outside of the apple ecosytem."

Actually, the pilot program seem to point to exactly the opposite conclusion.
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@Bruizer For schools? The cheapest... Most schools and parents can't afford even a cheap device for every child. Then, kids tend to be rough with stuff, water logged books and hard falls are common place, tech doesn't do well in these situations... Then there is theft and bullying.

A dedicated school textbook isn't really a desirable object, an iPad is. If you are going for a reader, then make it school branded and only workable with the school's cirriculum of books.
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@Bruizer Well said.
They made something better. Let them profit from it.
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... and take care of the author too!!
Too Old For IT 24th Jan
@Johnny Vegas Eventually who treats the author best is going to come into play. This includes who is consistent with the largest advance, largest percentage of sales, etc. Security too, as it does no good to propose a decent percentage, and then find 100,000 copies in the wind at a campus (or professors!) file-sharing site, and not be able to capture the sales for the author.
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@Ed
If Apple are not even opening this protocol up to their existing and capable products such as Mac, iPod Touch and iPhone, why do you expect them to open this up as a proposed standard?

Amazon might be proprietary but at least I can read a Kindle purchased book on any device that I own, including my Macs and my iPad.
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You said it all
jscott418 24th Jan
@dazzlingd This is about Apple making the most profit on this lame ideal. Nothing noble about it. I cannot believe they choose not to even include all their own hardware. Would it have been that hard? Makes me question Apple's technological abilities.
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@jscott418 Apple don't consider there would be an "end user advantage" to what you suggest.

These interactive books require a certain screen size (not pixel resolution).

These interactive books require multitouch.

So by definition, they are only going to work on the iPad. It isn't a question of "Apple's technological abilities", this is a design choice.
@dazzlingd If this new idea from Apple sells a lot of iPads, I suspect that they will extend this capability to their Macs as well and sell lots of those also. Besides, standard dumb e-books, those without video and audio capability and other enhancements, work just fine in all e-book stores including Apple's iTunes store. So anyone who wants to write a dumb garden-variety e-book using whatever tools they are using now, can still sell those e-books anywhere. However, anyone who wants to produce an advanced interactive e-book using the free Apple iBook author tool, has to comply with Apple's rules. Is that so hard to understand? At some point down the road, Apple is likely to publish the extensions they have made to the e-book standard, so that anyone is free to build an authoring tool that also includes those extensions. There is nothing that prevents Android and Windows tablet and computer makers from writing their own extended e-book publishing software.
Turns out the student and home version are just like iBooks Author:

From page 6
12. HOME AND STUDENT SOFTWARE. For software marked ???Home and Student??? edition, you may install one copy of the software on up to three licensed devices in your household for use by people for whom that is their primary residence. The software may not be used for commercial, non- profit, or revenue-generating activities.

Of course, he has made a life of reading EULAs for us so we don't have to so this is not news to him. To think that MS owns the rights of any of the work you make on Office 2010 if you use the Home or Student version. Shame on MS.

Heck at least Apple is giving away their software and only claims the formatting. MS actually charges for it and still won't allow you to use it for any payed work and is claiming the content.

10:1 Ed does not care and won't write a rant on this Evil and Greedy EULA for MS Office.
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You've missed the point
Romberry 23rd Jan
@Bruizer Your entire post is non sequitur in the context of this discussion. The issue is standards. The MS EULA you just quoted was for cut-rate (reduced price) software, and it's pretty much unenforceable...and dang if I can think of a single instance where there has even been any attempt to enforce it. But again, the issue is standards. Open standards. Instead of addressing the actual issue, you're seeking to deflect and misdirect.
@Romberry
And the statement stands.

Will Ed do a rant on Tuesday exclaiming how evil and greedy MS is for Section 12 of Office's EULA? MS charges for their "cut rate" product and still prohibits any author from making money off of derived works (and why put it in there if it is never intended to be used?). Apple at least gives their tool away and only claims the formatting.

Ed is also mad because Apple has a new format for iBooks that might cut out Windows 8 tablets if they ever make it to market. iBooks has always supported formats other than ePub (and it still does). Some open and some not.

10:1 Ed will prove his hypocrisy and not call MS on their totally evil and greed EULA.
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Sauce for the Goose???
WaltFrench@... 24th Jan
@Romberry if you can freely break your EULA with Microsoft, you can freely break it with Wolfram (I use their ???Home Edition??? license because it's $THOUSANDS$ cheaper).

Or Apple. You are giving legal advice that neither EULA matters, although @Ed says it does.

Oh, BTW: which standards committee created .DOC? Who has ever called for Microsoft to give away its word processor so that @Ed can use it for free to write his screeds? The hypocrisy is thick here.
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@Romberry Except iBooks Author never claims to create ePub documents. Nowhere to Apple claim that's what these are, because they aren't.

Apple already has a tool that creates ePub: "Pages". Today "Pages" creates bon fide ePub documents like it did yesterday.

Apple's new iBook Author creates "iBooks Textbooks", and these aren't ePub books. The iBooks 2 app still uses ePub books, but in addition it can handle these new "iBooks Textbooks". Apple still accept ePub books into their store, the store still sells them. The only difference is today they accept this new format of theirs as well.

So why has Ed written this? Well, if you look at the new file format you can see it is implemented very much like ePub, with additions. But this is just an implementation detail, it is completely irrelevant (it's interesting in an academic sort of way). The two formats have nothing to do with each other.

So you can still create ePub books with Apple's toolchain, and this is unchanged (iBooks Author has nothing to do with it). Apple's iBook Store still sells them, and Apple's iOS devices can still read them. Apple's new interactive textbooks don't affect this at all.

I don't see the threat that Ed is suggesting. But it has gotten him a lot of page views.
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toddybottom_z 24th Jan
"I don't see the threat that Ed is suggesting."

Clearly when a standard is embraced, extended, and then extinguished, there is absolutely no threat to the standard whatsoever.

Speaking of which, how did you enjoy the web during the 90s? You know, when IE on Windows could be used to properly view all web pages but other browsers couldn't? The attempt to embrace, extend, and extinguish HTML did wonderful things for consumers and for the HTML standard itself.

Oh wait. It didn't. I don't see the threat that Ed is suggesting.

"Apple's iBook Store still sells them, and Apple's iOS devices can still read them." ('them' being standard ePub documents)

You are all totally missing the point of embrace, extend, and extinguish. The embrace and extend phases absolutely rely on the original standard to still be supported by the company attempting to embrace, extend, and extinguish the standard. Apple embraced ePub. They are now extending it. The standard becomes extinguished when no one bothers to create textbooks using standard ePub. The standard does not get extinguished because the embracer stops supporting it. The standard gets extinguished when the authors stop supporting it. Once all the authors are on the Apple ePub format, a format that cannot be supported by anything other than the monopoly iPad, Apple has successfully blocked all other tablets from ever being successful in the education market. That ePub will be extinguished is not actually Apple's main goal just like extinguishing HTML was not MS's main goal. The main goal is to get enough authors to use your extended proprietary format in order to prevent the rise of any competition.
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@toddybottom_z Key difference is Microsoft called their extensions "the Web" and the weaved them into their tools. So developers created this "non-standard" HTML without considering the consequences.

This isn't what Apple are doing. You don't use the same tool: Apple have "Pages" for ePub, and "iBooks Author" for this new format. There is no confusion - these are not the same animal.

It's a bit like the debate about "web apps" and "native apps" on iOS. Ed will tell you that these compete against each other. But in truth this isn't the case. Apple is perfectly happy when you create a "web app", they don't try and put developers under any pressure to create "native apps". They continue to improve the performance of "web apps". They remain committed to "web development", and provide a lot of the best infrastructure in the industry for that (I'm talking, of course, about WebKit).

This is a parallel. In fact, these new "iBooks textbooks" don't compete so much with ePub books in Apple's ecosystem as much as with "native apps" that provide a "book experience". So "iBooks Author" isn't competing with "Pages" (and 3rd party ePub authoring systems) rather it's competing with "Xcode" (in truth, it provides a limited subset of what "Xcode" offers, but it is many orders of magnitude simpler).

So the two things are very different. MOST ebooks won't benefit from this new format (because that's how Apple see it) and will continue to use ePub (which is exactly what Apple intend).

This isn't, never was, nor will ever be: either/or.

So I still don't see what Ed is driving at.
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@Bruizer if you

You do realize that there are countless programs that are free (or cheap) for personal use and cost money for commercial use? FWIW, if you exercise your search skills, you could find the post where I talked about the Home and Student License.

But you really just are parroting a talking point someone else gave you. happy
@Ed Bott

Think of this:

"The nightmare scenario under this agreement? You create a great work of staggering literary genius that you think you can sell for 5 or 10 bucks per copy. You craft it carefully in [Office Home edition. Once finished you realize you have to throw the work away, buy a new copy of Office professional and start over.]"

While the "work" may not be covered, the use of the Home edition to make a non-commercial product is still, technically, invalid and you would be forced to throw out any work that you created for commercial intent on that copy.

You do realize that many programs put limits on how the end product is used especially if the program is free. But for iBooks Author it is "mind-boggling evil and greedy"? For MS it is 100% OK? For Apple, if you are using their free tool for free stuff, no restrictions. If you are using their free tool for profit. restrictions. That is much better the MS's draconian EULA on Student/Home version of Office. Cheaper tool for personal use. No issue. Cheaper tool for non-personal use (from no-profit to for profit. For example working on the Church news letter) violation of EULA.

Me? I have dealt with EULA professionally for years. I have no issue with either one. They are what they are and they often have ridiculous aspects. I have walked away from many products because of them. There is a reason I paid for the full Office version.

So are we going to get a rant and diatribe on the evils and greed of MS for their mind boggling EULA?:D
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@Ed Bott : "But you really just are parroting a talking point someone else gave you" - pot black kettle comes to mind watching a microsoft advocate talk about "open" standards and formats... Welcome to the "dark" side, hope to see you start talking about Microsofts corruption of standards and proprietary formats, but be careful, you might sound like the apple fanbois defending their god.
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@Ed Bott Why would anybody want to use a product that *only* creates iBooks-compatible documents, for any other purpose? Something is terribly wrong with your thinking.

Please point me to a past post where you blasted Google Docs for implementing free but incompatible equivalents to the .DOCX and .XLSX formats.

Or the 100 posts where you blasted MS for not giving away the latest versions of their Office products, which broke compatibility with the .DOC and .XLS formats in order to implement new features (both fully-paid and reduced-cost versions). Those tools and their Microsoft-designed incompatibilities, of course, touch the great majority of users, so should generate 100X the heat you're radiating.
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RE: Some standards are more open than others
bigjon-x64 Updated - 24th Jan
@Bruizer
@Bruizer

One big difference here is that MS offers a version that allows you to use it in a commercial, non-profit or revenue generating activities. You do pay more for it though. Also, MS doesn't claim ownership of the works, or demand the right to revenue if you do sell the work.
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@ihobbs Apple don't either, if you don't sell the result through their store then you can't sell the result. But they didn't say they'd be able to sell it (so they aren't claiming ownership). You can put it on students iPad's (or more likely your institution's iPads) if you wish, you just can't charge for that.

This is no different to using Xcode to create an iOS app.

Apple still have a tool for creating ePub books that can either be sold through their store OR anyone else's. It's called "Pages". The new "iBooks Author" isn't intended to replace that tool, in fact "iBooks Author" can consume "Pages" documents as a starting point for these new "enhanced" books (there is nothing to stop you publishing ebooks in both formats).
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Yeah, apple is a bung-hole company, and while writing this on an iPad 2, I go out of my way lately NOT to support apple as much as possible... I buy no media, very few apps, and what I do buy only gives apple 10% instead of 30% because I only buy iTunes cards at 20% off. I can't wait until ICS and WP7 take off and I can quit buying anything from this company. They have become too big for thier proverbial britches. In the long term, they are only screwing themselves.

For the record I have NO apple desktop or laptop computer or iPhone, and don't plan to get any. And I have their cheapest iPad 2.

Go Android! Go WP7!
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Ed.

Once again, you are perpetuating the lie that Apple has stopped supporting the open ePub standard. They have not.

iBooks 2.0 still supports exactly as much of the standard as every other ePub compatible e-reader on the planet. They fully and unreservedly support ePub 2.0.1, and are much closer than anyone else to supporting ePub 3.0. No, they do not yet fully support ePub 3.0, but nor does anyone else, and no books are yet published in that standard anyway.

You can STILL take a standard ePub 2 file, load it on your iPad running iBooks 2.0, and it will load and render correctlyor at least, as correctly as any other e-readerassuming it is a properly formed ePub document. Indeed, nearly 100% of the content on the iBookstore is still in a fully standard ePub format.

The addition of apple's new (ePub 3.0 based, but not true ePub 3) iBooks format is exactly that. An addition, something extra. It is proprietary because Apple has invested a lot of money developing the tool to author these interactive textbooks, and rather than charging a licensing fee for the software, they are making it available for free. iBooks Author is apple's loss leader, to get people submitting this content to the iBookstore. Nothing more, nothing less.

If, once ePub3 files start appearing, apple announce that they will not be supporting the standard anymore, and force you to use the iBooks Author tool to create content for the iBookstore, then you have my full and unreserved support, but until they do so, please stop lying to people, and go back to what you're good at, evangelising Microsoft... Oh... I forgot. Apple bashing is what counts for Microsoft evangelism these days.
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Maybe if he lies too many times
ego.sum.stig@... 24th Jan
He will run for publiuc office and/or get dropped by zdnet.
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You are missing the point....
linux for me 24th Jan
@loplop

Apple's "modification of the EPUB standard renders all of the new documents unreadable to every EPUB capable device EXCEPT the iPad.....That is the real issue here, Yes, the iPad can read the standard EPUB documents just fine, but that does miss the main point of the article.

Even Microsoft has done this several times, kerberos comes to mind. Kerberos is an authentication system developed by MIT. Microsoft has added/change some of the standard for use in Windows, making some other systems incompatible with the Windows version.

This is not a new trick that Apple discovered on it's own. It is practice by companies, to keep users locked in to a single product. If you want the documents from Apple, you have to have an iPad to see them. Apple will be more than happy to sell you an iPad! And that is the main point of the discussion. Lock in to Apple for a device that schools and middle to lower class families can not afford.

Nice job Apple!
@linux for me. I'm not missing the point... Ed is.

Apple have never claimed that iBooks Author is a standards-compliant piece of software. Rather, it is a proprietary value added "Add On" to their iBookstore.

Apple have developed a piece of software, which like most of what apple does "Just works" because Apple control it, end to end, people like, and recognise the value of, and are then annoyed that they can't use it to submit content to other -- hereto non-existent -- epub3 based bookstores.

The simple fact remains, no-one compelled Apple to invest their own time and money in developing a beautiful, functional, simple ebook author -- but they did. Apple could have very easily chosen to charge for it -- they did not.

If you do not like it, you are very welcome to develop a free, open source, ePub 3 author yourself, which outputs standards-compliant ePub documents, and submit them separately.

Perhaps when ePub 3 takes off, apple will choose to sell a version of the software which outputs standard ePub3 files which can be submitted elsewhere, but right now it's kind of a moot point anyway -- the only ebook reader which even comes close to implementing ePub3 is the iPad, and all of the Kindle's, Nooks, Kobo's etc. out there today will still not support it.

If Apple were selling you a piece of software which you believed you could use to create ePub3 documents so supply to other bookstores, and it included this EULA, then you'd have a right to complain, but they are not.

They STILL support open standards, like ePub, fully and unreservedly in their iBooks software. They still supply software which creates ePub files -- their "Pages" word processor package -- natively and without any restrictions, and they have still given no indication that you will not be able to submit ePub3 files created with third party software to the iBookstore in the future.

However, having spent money developing the iBooks Author software, and designing the layouts for these interactive books, and then providing the software FREE OF CHARGE, i think apple are within their rights to limit it's use to the creation of books for the iBookstore.

Again, I liken it to a web host.

You buy a hosting package, which includes a free, WYSIWIG Website Creator as part of the package. You've not got any third party software, and need a site quickly, so you use it. The host, of course, lets you upload your own website designed in third party software if you prefer.

Some time later, you move to a new web host. No-one would be shocked to discover that the source code, and design elements -- though written in standard HTML5 -- belong to the old web host, and you can't take the code with you. Your own content, of course -- the text and images you created -- belongs to you, and you are free to take them with you, but the HTML documents, CSS stylesheets, javascript etc. are not yours, and you have to recreate them from scratch. Annoying, but not unexpected.

This is no different. Apple has created a tool to streamline the creation of interactive iBooks for the iBookstore. It is based on standards, yes, but the tool itself is a value added feature for its own customers alone, and so the output cannot be used elsewhere.

They still permit you to create standards compliant documents elsewhere, and upload them as you already have, and continue to be a driving force behind the adoption of those standards, but IN ADDITION, also support some proprietary formats which they modified for their own use.

It is no different between Adobe creating the open PDF standard, or being part of the steering group for the EPS file format, but also maintaining it's own proprietary file types like PSD and AI.
@linux for me

To build on what loplop wrote.... Further, Apple still offers a program that will format and produce industry standard ePub 2 files that are unrestricted by license. So, stop lying.
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And yea, the Jihad continues...
ego.sum.stig@... 24th Jan
Ed Bott, foaming at the mouth with yet another unsupportable and hypocritical rant against Apple. Would that he would have done this with Microsoft, Oracle, IBM, Adobe, Cisco etc blah blah and so on.

Nope, not a chance, they aren't Apple so they're off limits for the Bott treatment.
By the way, hasn't Bill Gates bought up the rights to the published images of a great number of works of art (i.e. photos of the Mona Lisa, etc.)? How will Gates and Apple intersect?

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