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This new version of Windows? "I love it." "Oh yeah? I hate it."

By | March 5, 2012, 10:39am PST

Summary: There’s no middle ground in the early reactions to the Windows 8 Consumer Preview. Reviewers either love it or they hate it. Why the strong positive and negative response?

What’s fascinating about the early reactions to the Windows 8 Consumer Preview is their wide range of intensity.

There’s no middle ground. Early reviewers either love it or they hate it.

Last week, David Pogue wrote an unqualified love letter to the Windows 8 Consumer Preview in the New York Times, calling it “new and delightful.”

Today, longtime Mac enthusiast Andy Ihnatko gave raves to Windows 8 in the Chicago Sun-Times:

Windows 8 and Metro show true multiplatform OS promise

My overall opinion is so high that it has to be stated right here in the first paragraph: Microsoft has really cracked something here. With the Metro user interface, they’ve created a simple and beautiful design language that’s relevant to a broad range of devices and to the ways that people use computers in the second decade of the 21st century.

And later, under the heading “An OS for all devices,” he writes:

I’ve had a chance to try Metro on a wide range of devices. I’m impressed by its elegance and I’m impressed by its feature list. It wasn’t until yesterday that I came to appreciate how flexible the Metro design scheme is.

But that reaction is counterbalanced by equally negative reactions, often from PC traditionalists. See, for example, this post by Russell Beattie today:

The integration with the classic desktop though? Wow. It’s. Completely. F***ing. Insane.

The combination is jarring, confusing and ultimately unusable. I can’t even respect it as an interesting attempt, as it just simply doesn’t work.

And there’s this from Mathew Baxter-Reynolds: That Windows 8 experience? Confusing. Confusing as hell.

I’m getting occasional blasts of that powerful negative reaction to Windows 8 in direct interactions with some readers as well. It’s not a majority—call it a very vocal minority.

They’re represented on Microsoft’s forums, too. At the moment, the top-rated topic at Microsoft Answers for Windows 8 Consumer Preview is “What happened to the Start icon on the desktop?” It’s followed closely by “Disable Metro” and “Disable Metro UI.”

Reading some of the complaints about the new Start screen inspired me to go back and look at Usenet groups from 2001, when Windows XP was in the final months before it was released.

Here’s a priceless exchange from late September 2001:

> WinXP is a great operating system it combines the best of WinME with the

> best of Windows 2000 and adds new and for once usefull features and then

> there`s messenger - I think I`ll stick with ICQ.

Well I hate it. I hate the way it works and I hate the way it looks - The interface is a digusting piece of OS-X wannabe crap IMO.

Talk about losing control of the machine.

I’m sticking to Win2000 thanks.

The entire thread is both hilarious (as long as you don’t mind occasional filthy and juvenile language) and pathetic (it started less than a week after 9/11).

In looking through other newsgroup posts from that time I also found surprising support for a Windows feature that was dropped in XP.

Here’s how one particularly impassioned user ended a lengthy plea to save personalized menus:

But going back to my original post, the part that baffles me is why we, the end-users, weren’t given an option of turning Personalized Menu’s on and off with the new XP-style Start Menu. The code is there for the Classic Start Menu and I’m sure that it should be hard to implement on the new menu. The removal of what (as seen by the response) is a very popular feature ALTOGETHER in the new XP-style Start Menu should be reconsidered. I am sure that many of us would like to see it back as a powertoy or add-on.

Please, bring it back!

Another message from later in that thread includes a response from Microsoft’s Raymond Chen, explaining why the change was made.

More than a decade later, and it’s the same discussion, with a different Windows version.

I think the passion in those reactions is potentially a very good thing. It’s also a strong indicator that this really is the most important Microsoft product launch in two decades.

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Sort of depends where you are coming from.
NoAxToGrind 5th Mar
From what I can tell, those in love with smartphones think its acceptable, those that dislike smart phones and are serious PC users don't care for it.

From the PC users perspective there is nothing of value in Windows 8 that isn't in Windows 7 and Windows 8 requires learning not just a new interface but how we work.

Microsoft (and pundits) don???t seem to grasp that 80% of everything a person does with a mouse and keyboard is done with muscle memory in much the same way we walk. I don???t have to stop and ???think??? about where to put my feet, how to handle a slope, or even how to dance. Muscle memory takes care of all that for me.

Now if there is a real benefit to learn say, walking backwards I might be willing to learn but if all it does is get me to the same place, just slower, then it holds nothing of value or interest.

My fear for Microsoft is PC users and those who make decisions on upgrades will figure it out and come to the same conclusion, there is no benefit to learning to walk backwards...

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Spoken Like a True ABMer
RobbCab 20th Mar
You can code Metro apps in C#, XMAL, & yes HTML5/JS. Wow ubiquity across devices with the coice of three flavors. Sounds horrible. And if you're really "serious" as you like to say you can still develop for win32/65.

Get a clue.
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Interesting
dagamer34 5th Mar
I think it's really a bad idea for people to basically advocate for a faster Windows 7 in Windows 8. These people are basically asking Microsoft to pull a RIM and assume that "once a leader, always a leader" in operating system market share. The fact that they have the confidence to try something completely new either means a they recognize that the iPad completely changes everything or b) they recogiZe the iPad WILL change everything. The fact that they are making this adjustment in the Windows development cycle immedialty after the iPad was released means they aren't stupid.

Or they can again make another, faster Windows OS, assume the iPad never happened and watch Apple capture the next billion computer users.
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Good call!
Imrhien 5th Mar
Change, it seems, is necessary.
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Change for the worse!
sonotech@... 12th Mar
Change that panders to the lowest common denominator, e.g., PC illiterates, ensures that mediocrity becomes the standard.
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RE: Interesting
benched42 5th Mar
You have to admit, though, that Apple has completely different interfaces for its laptops & desktops when compared to its phones & tablets. Microsoft is taking the "one size fits all" approach. And I'm with Frank Zappa in the song "Valley Girl" - one size does NOT fit all!
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Apple MacOS and iOS
bobiroc 5th Mar
Actually with Lion and Launchpad it very much resembles iOS. It just doesn't boot into that interface by default.
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Why Not?
rwalrond 5th Mar
Why can't one size fit all? I think it's a smarter plan to bring all of these technologies into 1 single device to rule them all. Perhaps I'm the 1% but I'd rather carry 1 device that could adapt to the ways I compute, instead of having to carry multiple computing devices for different situations.
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This one-size-fits-all meme is inaccurate. Putting Windows 7 or OS X on a tablet would be one-size-fits-all. But Windows 8 is versatile. And I, for one, appreciate it. Why would I want a different OS for my phone, tablet & PC, if I could use just one that worked equally well on all of them? That makes no sense. That's just fanboy propaganda.

The reality is that Windows 8 is an evolution. Possibly a revolution in computing. Apple started this, and Microsoft is taking it to the next level--borrowing the best from iOS & Android... and then innovating on top of it.

I think some people just find it hard to accept that Microsoft is innovating again, leading again (or at least has a chance to). I'm pleasantly surprised.
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One size does NOT fit all
benched42 5th Mar
bobiroc: So Lion boots into a screen with icons and four or five icons fixed at the bottom and can ONLY run programs in full screen mode?

rwalrond: Because of the limited screen real estate on a phone. On a phone screen everything has to run full screen. On a desktop or a server, not so. And do you really want the same limitations that a small screen form factor that a phone has when using a 32" HD monitor with your desktop?

metromalenyc: An OS that works on a phone shouldn't be used on a server for, at the very least, screen size considerations. And how about resources necessary? You going to put 20-30G of storage simply for the OS and then 1 Tb of storage for data on a phone? Not saying that wouldn't be awesome, but the tech is not there yet; in particular the battery tech necessary to power all that hardware. Not saying the base shouldn't be the same, but the interface? Really?
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Benched42,

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I specifically said it does NOT boot into that by default and used a descriptive word stating that Launchpad on Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) Resembles iOS.
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I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude, but I have to admit that I'm skeptical. On my work desktop I have two 1920x1080 screens. I have that much screen real estate so that I can have several windows open at the same time. If that is reduced to two windows that each take up one screen, I don't think I would appreciate that very much.

I have to see how this new interface really works on the desktop. I'm not terribly worried at this point because I know that I'll have Windows 7 on my work desktop for a while, and all my other machines at work and home are Linux where I have plenty of choices of user interface. Besides which, it looks as though there will be a classic desktop choice on Windows 8 (at least) when my desktop at work might change to it. Basically, my fall back position is very strong now, so if Microsoft is forging in the wrong direction, I have plenty of time for either them or I to deal with it later.

The KDE project is taking an approach that uses the same base for the GUI, but has different skins for desktop or touchscreen use. That's at least an interesting alternative approach.

@bobiroc
Either the Lion desktop with Launchpad resembles iOS functionally, and you had a point to begin with; or it resembles it superficially, and you have a point now but had none to begin with.
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Well
windozefreak Updated - 6th Mar
Apple is running full bore, trying to do the same thing. So better watch out you won't be able to compute soon??? I think much of the furor is that that non-innovating, slugg of a company called Microsoft beat that can't stop innovating company called Apple to the punch, in what might be called the most innovating process since the advent of computers??? Huh!
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@benched42 and @CFWhitman

The Server 8 OS does NOT boot into the Metro interface as standard. I know, as I'm using it.

Both Server and Desktop OS allow you to run multiple applications (using that term intentionally, not Apps) and to spread them across multiple monitors if required. Shortcut enough stuff to the desktop and you don't need to enter Metro, ever. As Ed's previous post indicates, there are plenty of shortcuts for power users to get to grips with too, eg Windows key + X to bring up a shortcut menu for all the key admin applications.

I think the power of multiple devices behaving in the same way, with the user implementing them how they see best for any given circumstance is a real bonus for Windows users. If user A has a Windows Phone and an XBox and is a master at using that interface, why shouldn't they use it on a PC? If you truly are a "Power User", well, Windows key + R still works, use that to launch your dskmgmt.msc, compmgmt.msc, secpol.msc etc. Stop being a GUI wimp and bitching about progress. wink
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I still use my PC/MacBook
jgoode@... 6th Mar
I use desktops/laptops for more hours than my iPad. I do real work (programming etc.), not browsing the internet. This post PC crap is just that, crap.
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Sort of depends where you are coming from.
NoAxToGrind 5th Mar Top Rated
From what I can tell, those in love with smartphones think its acceptable, those that dislike smart phones and are serious PC users don't care for it.

From the PC users perspective there is nothing of value in Windows 8 that isn't in Windows 7 and Windows 8 requires learning not just a new interface but how we work.

Microsoft (and pundits) don???t seem to grasp that 80% of everything a person does with a mouse and keyboard is done with muscle memory in much the same way we walk. I don???t have to stop and ???think??? about where to put my feet, how to handle a slope, or even how to dance. Muscle memory takes care of all that for me.

Now if there is a real benefit to learn say, walking backwards I might be willing to learn but if all it does is get me to the same place, just slower, then it holds nothing of value or interest.

My fear for Microsoft is PC users and those who make decisions on upgrades will figure it out and come to the same conclusion, there is no benefit to learning to walk backwards...
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I disagree
Joe_Raby 5th Mar
The new development model means that Metro apps now can benefit from all primary Windows programming languages (including HTML5) but without having API layers built on top of additional Win32 layers (such as the case with C# and .Net). The benefit for the user is fast apps with better functionality in a smaller package without requiring all of these API runtimes to be installed separately. WinRT allows developers to develop for high-end multi-core systems or low-power ARM devices, and know that it's going to run everywhere. The curated store and Metro version of IE mean less drive-by and accidental malware installs (I'm almost curious to see how creative malware writers get to counter this). Having a computer that is more device-like is Microsoft's goal - they even state this in the hardware logo docs. It means a more seamless experience for users where they can just USE the computer, not have to manage every little process on it and worry about doing something wrong.
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Your analogy of walking backwards....
kris_stapley@... 6th Mar
seems inaccurate. Once the new method is learned, it is much faster than the old windows workflow. Walking backward is never going to be faster than walking forward.
For some people Win8 may truly be a great interface. But it also has a lot of problems for folks who have to live with legacy applications and scripts. I develop drivers for Windows, and while things work ok with Win8 if I use the Windows 8 driver development tools, if I have to go back to support anything pre-Vista the odd's of getting it to work are essentially NIL.

It is unfortunate, since I think Microsoft could have left the desktop a little closer to Win7 (i.e. a start menu that does something), and the environment would have worked. As it is, it will be a long time before I can use it on my system.
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I want both.
n.gurr@... 6th Mar
I really like 8, and love 7 too. I think that the best option would be to have an overlay which could be switched to drop down using a keyboard press, perhaps the legacy pause/break button. I find switching screen between Metro and the desktop to be too disruptive to my work flow. It would be even better if I could have a translucent Metro drop down so I could see the data running in the desktop below. This mixed response would appease everyone and if it was fully optional that would be even better!

I am really open to 8 and have enjoyed it enough to install it as VM and now on my gaming pc at home. I just have to make it dual boot XP for Mass Effect and several older games now!
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I Want Both...Too
BeoStyx Updated - 7th Mar
I agree completely with n.gurr, and he's voiced exactly what I was thinking: Why not have the Start Screen act as a transparent overlay to whatever is running underneath, brought up when you need it? This transparent overlay Start Screen could also be sizable, so you could set it to your size preference, and still have its swipe-ability. And imagine that with this functionality it could truly mimmick your Windows phone or Windows tablet (when that comes to market), perhaps default set with the same exact apps those mobile devices have => truly Windows everywhere.

Plain and simple: The Start Screen shouldn't HAVE to be full screen. The Start Screen should be available beside (or overlayed over) either Metro of Desktop apps. Metro apps shouldn't have to be full screen (or 1/3 screen). Those of us who have been given windows to resize at will for the last 25 years should not now all of a sudden expect to deal with settling for just partitions.

Furthermore, have a choice of what you want to boot into, Start Screen or Desktop (I think the new Opening Screen system is OK before either choice). A real coup would be to be able to boot into WHATEVER OS you want (via Hyper-V) and have it act much like how Windows 8 has the Desktop itself acting now (like a quasi-virtual machine screen able to run beside Metro apps).


The whole Metro idea is a good concept IMO, just piss poor execution. Check out the environments that the guys at Rainmeter have come up with for Windows 7, especially the Metro ones. Now that's class. You don't have to bring back the Start Button, just make a better offering of the Start Screen.
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@kris_stapley ... That's just the point
thx-1138_@... Updated - 8th Mar
" ... Once the new method is learned, it is much faster than the old windows workflow. "

That's not the diagnosis from most pundits so far .. you're in denial if you think the overall verdict from Jane & Joe Public is positive towards the W8CP. You can read the related threads and general sentiment, can't you? Trying to force-feed new technology to anyone is a tightrope, high-wire affair for any vendor: MS is no exception.

" ... Walking backward is never going to be faster than walking forward. "

(...see this post's header)
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Is "new" always "better"?
sonotech@... 12th Mar
I suspect there are more than a few "business users" that use their computers as tools. Most of my time is spent using Outlook, Word and Excel (Office 2003). I don't have time to learn a new way to do work that has changed little since Office 97!
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Bicycle or Unicycle
arminw 6th Mar
Most people already know how to ride a bicycle, but fewer people know how to ride a unicycle. Windows 8 with its one-size-fits-all approach, is more like a unicycle, because bicycles are more complicated, thus requiring more resources than tablet/phone technology can presently deliver. On desktops and laptops Microsoft should make the old-style bicycle interface the default. On resource limited portable devices, the simpler Metro style, unicycle interface should be what the user sees. A touch screen and a keyboard/mouse interface are fundamentally different and should be treated that way.
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Sort of Depends..................
Disgruntled M$ User 7th Mar
AAAAAMMMMMEEEEENNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Simple answer
Michael Kelly 5th Mar
It really is a good change (though it does need a few tweaks), but people hate change. Especially when it comes to operating systems.
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Simple.....
Disgruntled M$ User 7th Mar
Change? What change??? A new UI ergo Metro???? KEEP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From EVERYTHING I've read it is 90% Metro, 10% tweaks!!!
People aren't complaining about Windows 8, which apparently has some very nice feature enhancements (like mounting ISOs in Explorer -- about time...), but a LOT of desktop users are VERY unhappy with the Metro UI.

To me, I see it as Microsoft simply doing their tablet strategy in reverse (instead of shoehorning a desktop UI onto a tablet, they are shoehorning a tablet UI onto the desktop), in the totally disconnected-from-reality-conclusion that going right to left instead of left to right is what they had been doing wrong the past ten years.
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The Metro UI ...
P. Douglas 5th Mar
... is a clean, simplified UI, that is better than the current GUI for traditional PCs. You are just used to doing things the old way, and do not like change. With the Metro UI, things are just spaced out more, giving apps a new, modern feel. I do not see where Metro is slower than the desktop. I see no real justification for so many complaints about Windows 8. Griping that the Windows UI is undergoing a radical overhaul after a littler under 20 years, so that it can remain relevant, doesn't sound like a legitimate complaint to me.
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Condescend much?
baggins_z 5th Mar
Metro UI is not a clean, simplified UI. It's cluttered and noisy. People do not use desktops (or notebooks) the same way they use tablets, so it's impossible to create a UI that maximizes the strength of each.
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So Tell Me
rshol 5th Mar
Using the metro UI, how can I reply to an email while having the original open and viewable for reference and while having a spreadsheet open and visible for reference in the same reply. If I can't do that (and it can't be done in metro) then the interface brings nothing to my daily workflow.

This is not about a UI redesign. Its about a UI redesign that reduces the usability of laptops/desktops to people who do Real Work (tm).

WinRT/Metro is also a huge cash grab by MSFT who want 30% of all applications sold. Its not about safe, curated apps, its about 30% of sales. Its not about the UI, its about MSFT revising its business model and then trying to tell us its good for us.
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A UI to rule them all
tonymcs@... 5th Mar
What most people ignore is the need for a UI that will span mouse and kb, touch, gesture and voice with a bit of facial and body recognition thrown in. While Metro may not be everyone's cup of tea, it's the first interface that will cover my phone, PC, laptop, tablet and Xbox/Kinect. Just like Windows gave us a standard world-wide interface for PCs (those of us who remember DOS will remember the bad old days), Metro and its successors will standardise our interactions with multiple devices and platforms. Just as web cams integrated with laptops and displays, Kinect hardware will also become embedded over the next few years and some people may never touch a computer again wink

This isn't about the past or even the present, this is designing for the future.
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Agree completely
kris_stapley@... 6th Mar Below threshold | Show anyway
It takes about 5 minutes to learn the best way to use the new OS. Not to mention all the keyboard shortcuts that power users will use to get around the OS faster than they've ever been able to. People just hate change, but they love to complain about it.
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Condescend much? - Pt. II
ScorpioBlack 6th Mar
I'm with @baggins_z here.

Just advocating change for the sake of change doesn't cut it. Especially when tools like you all parrot what your masters in Redmond say.
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Condescend much?
ironwolf 6th Mar
I'm with baggins_z myself. Tablets and smartphones SHOULD be different from the desktop PC. You don't use one the same as the other.
" ... In my humble opinion"

.. and to go with what baggins_z basically said, it surely is condescending and sanctimonious of you to belittle others criticisms of the changes - without a sound counter-argument.

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From what I have seen almost everyone loves the new Microsoft Windows 8 and the new Metro interface. The only people who don't are the known Microsoft haters so they can be ignored. I have no clue who Russell Beattie or Mathew Baxter-Reynolds are so finding some rant on a random blog from these guys doesn't mean much.

Given time everyone is going to come around to the Metro UI. It makes it so much easier to find the information you want when you want it. Applications are right there for you, data is right there for you. You really can't go wrong with Metro.

This happens every time a new version of Microsoft Windows is released. Some random blogger will post how he hates it and this is the big opportunity for some competitor to step in. Just do a search on ZDNet for "Five reasons why Windows 8 will be dead on arrival" for a great example of this nonsense.
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No Loverrock
NoAxToGrind 5th Mar
Come on, you know I have always been a huge proponent of Microsoft and their offerings. Sorry but not this time...
"The only people who don't are the known Microsoft haters so they can be ignored."

So if you don't like Metro then you must just be an MS hater. You should really get that tin-foil refitted. I think it's cutting off circulation to your brain.
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Interesting. So Windows 8 Metro is going to be force fed to us? That's just great.
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nonsense!
The Linux Geek 5th Mar Below threshold | Show anyway
people will flee M$ products for the superior FOSS alternatives.
This will be an enabler for the year of Linux!
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Just as it was in 2011, 10, 09, 08, 07, 06, 05, 04, etc.. for the past 15 years I have been hearing this.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
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Year of Linux?
Pete "athynz" Athens 5th Mar
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Thanks Linux Geek I needed that laugh!
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You crack me up.
FuzzyBunnySlippers Updated - 5th Mar
I used to think you were absolute with your comments. Now, I get a kick out of them. I picture Yul Brynner as Pharoah Rameses II, or Charleton Heston as Moses, with hands on hip, making 'proclamations". Too funny.

I even gave you a plus one, to get you out of the red.
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tongue in cheek..
kris_stapley@... 6th Mar
You remind me of Stephen Colbert's TV personality. Pretending you like something and playing it up consistently enough that casual glancers will think you are for real. You know, like Stephen Colbert likes to agree with Bill O'Reilly for entertainment purposes.
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back to the fry station your smoke break is over with.
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King Canute
n.gurr@... 6th Mar
You remind me of the whole back sea back bit, without being a king or missunderstood.
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It's OK to not like it
bobiroc 5th Mar
If you can discuss it like a civilized person and have well thought out and educated reasons to back up your claim. Having only a little bit of time to use the interface I have a love/hate relationship with it at the moment but most of that is because I do not fully know everything about it.

That being said I have to say after installing Windows 8 on a Dell Duo Multi-Touch capable computer the MetroUI is awesome for touch. It works well with a mouse too but to me does not seem as intuitive but I think I just need to use it more.
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It's Ok not to like it
IgnorantBugger 8th Mar
No you're first impressions are correct it is horrible to use with a mouse, hence my dislike of it...
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...it isn't that bad with a mouse, and I am already starting to build the muscle memory someone else mentioned. I opened this article along with several others from my email newsletter and I am getting used to right-clicking to bring down the list of open "tabs" so that I can close one and move on to the next.

I will not talk down to those who hate Metro, but I do think that you need to give it more time. I actually do think that it will get easier once we all figure out the shortcuts that help us work.
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...I haven't tried it yet and have no plans to do so until my job requires it. I suspect that the vast majority of those who "hate Microsoft" fall into that category.
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Spoken Like a True ABMer
RobbCab 20th Mar
You can code Metro apps in C#, XMAL, & yes HTML5/JS. Wow ubiquity across devices with the coice of three flavors. Sounds horrible. And if you're really "serious" as you like to say you can still develop for win32/65.

Get a clue.

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