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Windows 7 and SSDs: Cutting your system drive down to size

By | February 3, 2011, 11:50pm PST

Summary: Solid-state drives are wicked fast. They’re also expensive. So how do you get the performance benefits of an SSD upgrade without breaking the bank? Use a fast SSD as a Windows 7 system drive and install a conventional hard disk for use as a dedicated data drive. Here’s the right way to do just that.

Solid-state drives are wicked fast. They can breathe new life into a PC whose performance is being dragged down by a slow conventional hard drive. They’re also expensive and (at least for now) limited in total capacity. So how do you get the performance benefits of an SSD upgrade without breaking the bank?

With a notebook, you’re generally stuck with a single drive. But with desktop PCs (and with large notebooks that support the installation of a second disk drive), you can do what I’ve done: use a fast SSD as a Windows 7 system drive and install a conventional hard disk for use as a dedicated data drive.

In that configuration, your goal is to use just the right amount of space on the relatively small, expensive system drive. That doesn’t mean playing “How low can you go?” and ruthlessly deleting as much as possible. Instead, the smart strategy is to look at the total amount of space available on the system drive and then make intelligent, case-by-case decisions on where to store different kinds of files.

In this post and the accompanying gallery, I go through three big buckets of files that potentially consume large amounts of disk space, and I list the strategies you should follow for sizing and, if possible, relocating that data.


Don’t miss the rest of this series:

Part 1: Windows 7 and SSDs: Just how fast are they?

Part 2: Windows 7 and SSDs: Setup secrets and tune-up tweaks


First, an overall question: How big should your system drive be? There’s no one-size-fits-all answer to that question; the correct choice depends on your needs and your budget. But in general, I recommend choosing a system drive that will allow you to keep at least 20% of total disk space free at all times. That translates into the following general recommendations, organized by PC type:

Netbooks: 30 GB minimum, 60 GB recommended

If you’re using a small notebook or netbook almost exclusively for web-based applications and you don’t plan to install more than a handful of lightweight Windows programs or download and save large data files, you can probably get by with a 30GB drive. But you’ll spend much less time and energy monitoring disk space if you can afford a 60GB drive instead.

Workhorse desktop PC: 60 GB minimum, 120 GB (or more) recommended

I define this class of PC as one where you install and use multiple applications, including large programs like Microsoft Office. Windows 7 uses less disk space than you might think in a default installation; I have a 60 GB system drive on the PC I’m using to write this post, and it’s currently showing about 25 GB of free disk space. If you can afford a larger drive, you’ll spend less time fretting over free disk space.

Business-class notebook: 120 GB minimum, 256 GB recommended

For a high-end, single-drive notebook that you use as your primary PC, don’t skimp on storage. That’s especially true if you use it to store, convert, and play back digital media files. HD video and high-resolution digital photos can use a lot of disk space, and you want to make sure you have enough space for them.

In the following pages, I’ll go through specific configuration steps for two different categories of data and system files.

Page 2: Data files This is the largest of the categories and potentially the biggest space-saver. By relocating default data folders to a different drive, you prevent them from consuming space on the system drive.

Page 3: Windows system settings Among the biggest consumers of space on a Windows 7 system drive are hidden files used by the operating system itself—paging files, indexes, and so on. Here’s how to safely resize and/or move them.

Page 2: Relocating data folders –>

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Many Lenovo models allow this.
lordkoos 8th Mar
Many of the new Lenovo Thinkpads have this feature. I have a T420 and I've put in a SSD for the OS, and have a 7200 rpm HD in the optical slot, which Lenovo calls the "Ultrabay". It's a great setup.
Great feature, thanks Ed. Also your timing is perfect as I just bought a new desktop with an SSD as the main drive on your articles have condensed the info I found in 10 separate articles into one easy to follow guide.
I agree, thanks for this write-up, Ed. I'm a very experienced user (and a programmer) but I'm still looking for advice prior to my upgrade from XP to win7. My biggest question right now is the proper size for my system drive (partition). I've been storing data on a separate drive for many years. I don't even install software on the system drive, usually.

I'm quite excited that win7 has built-in disk imaging. I can finally get rid of the expense of buying 3rd party imaging software.
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@ken@... Don't rely on the Win 7 disk imaging software. If your system hard drive fails and you try to restore an existing image to a new disk, Windows always seems to complain that it cannot find any suitable device to restore to. Personally, I think you're better sticking to third party imaging software instead.
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@Euhemerus...I disagree with statement. I have used it a couple of times (changing HDD's) and it has worked flawlessly for me.
@ken@...

dd is free.
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@ken@...
I use imagex to capture/apply images to over 60 machines daily.
@Euhemerus
Sounds more like a missing controller driver in your WinPE.
@ken@... Like you, I am a professional dev so I feel your concern about how big a partition to use for your system drive.

I have been partitioning my machines' storage in the manner Ed describes here since 2001. Most of my machines have a single HDD which I'd split into C: and D:. C: is where the OS and all my apps go. D: is where all my data goes. This way, if and when I do need to reinstall a new OS, I don't have to move all my data to external storage and back again.

On my C: drive, I have:
Win7 x64
Office 2010 Professional + LiveMeeting & Communicator
Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate + various SDK's (WinPhone7, Azure, RIA, etc)
Expression Studio 4
SQL Server
SQL Server Express
SQL Server Compact
MySql
IIS 7.5 Express
WebMatrix
Adobe Flash Player, Reader, Photoshop & Premier elements
Debugging tools for Windows
Evernote
IE9
Chrome
Windows Live Essentials 2011
VirtualBox
Microsoft Security Essentials
Many drivers & utilities
Usual tools (7-Zip, BeyondCompare, Filezilla, Fiddler, GIMP, etc).

My C: partition is 100GB and has 38GB free.

I could install several (less-frequently used) apps to D: to free up room on C:, but I'd prefer to have all my apps on C: - the perf is worth the SSD$.
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System partition size
Rick_R Updated - 4th Feb 2011
@ken@...

Ken,

Awhile back, in response to a Robin Harris article and planning to eventually get an SSD I bought a 1.5TB drive and reconfigured my system. Harris pointed out that with a high capacity HD drive in some cases the transfer rate from the outer edge (where data is stored first) can actually exceed that of an SSD. The configuration I have is 100GB C: with Win XP, 1.4TB as D: for data, and an old 80GB Western Digital with Win7. I choose which drive will boot from Setup--neither drive has a dual-boot loader.

I have LOTS of programs--generally at least 4-5 of each type: Office 2007 Pro, WordPerfect X4, OpenOffice; FoxPro 9 Pro database, Visual Basic 2008, Adobe Elements 7, Paint Shop Pro X3 and 9 (9 loads much faster), Artweaver, Photostudio 5.5 & 6, Dragon Dictate 10, Namo Webeditor, Acrobat 9, Nuance PDF Professional (Acrobat competitor), several high-quality synthesized voices, several genealogy programs and logo-creation software, Google Chrome. 3 programs over 1.1GB, 3 over 700MB, 4 over 400MB, 8 over 200MB, and several dozen others. With that huge amount my XP 100GB C: partition has 55 GB free.

I did move My Documents and my emails to the data drive.

Something that is EXTREMELY important is that pretty much all office suites and graphic-editing programs include a TON of fonts, border, clipart and stock images. ALL of that needs to be moved to the data drive or not installed. One particularly useful tactic is to use hard links. Each graphics-editing program tries to install the sample graphics and fonts in C:\Program Files\ProgramName\graphics\wherever. Once it is installed, exit the program, move the data to your D:\Graphics folder and then hard link to it. The program will still see the original location. An added benefit of this is that each program has access to the stock graphics of ALL the programs.

Regarding Fonts, I have found that most applications wind up with either Arial, Times New Roman or Courier (I'm a lawyer), which are part of Microsoft "core" fonts. The average person simply doesn't need 1,000 fonts. Acrobat and Java install the Lucida family. Various other Microsoft programs install Tahoma and Verdana, which are widely used on the Web. Almost everything else isn't needed--when installing wordprocessors, I routinely deselect all fonts except possibly wingdings.

Just to make it clear ... both the XP and Win 7 installs share all the data folders.
@bitcrazed,

On a HDD, partitioning to separate information that will be used simultaneaously (like OS, data and programs) will practically excessive head travel and its consequent slowdown. Basically, the further the heads have to travel, the less time they have to actually read or write data.

On an SSD, thre is no penalty because it is a truly random access device with no head-position-dependent delays.
@Patanjali - many HDD's these days intermingle data sectors from different partitions. Rarely is your HDD physically split between two or more regions of your HDD.

Dividing your storage into a system and data partitions has little to do with performance - it's more about ensuring that you can choose to re-install your OS and apps without having to copy all your data from/to your machine each time. As a ******** developer, I tend to run at the bleeding edge of things and run LOTS of betas which necessitate more frequent reinstalls than most computer users.
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@ernonewman@...

Last week I bought a Dell Alienware M11 with a hybrid drive 50 GB SSD and 450 GB conventional. All in a tiny laptop and pretty fast loading. But, Dell doesn't offer them everywhere. It was unavailable in Germany, so I bought it from Spain.
@Bernard61

HP had them available in their Envy line for a year, but couldn't move them, I guess. The new 14" and 17" Envy's aren't nearly as nice as the 13" and 15" were.
Configuring Windows to use your big traditional hard disk for the Users folder during a clean and 'unattended' installation is a fairly popular option. Much better than mucking around in the registry.

Naturally, it's still not something I'd expect civilians to be doing.
@simonneedham I advice against this approach in a normal desktop environment. If the entire Users folder is placed on a different drive, a failure on this drive (temporary or permanent) will unable you to even log on to the computer (you will get a message saying "Unable to load profile" or something like that). That is very different from, say, not being able to load your documents because the drive is down. It makes debugging and error correction much more complicated.

I say this based on first hand experience.

In my opinion, the reason to have data on a different drive is not only to save space (on SSD or whatever) but also to make it simple to reinstall. And after a reinstall you usually don't want all the data stored in Users\Appdata anyways, since reinstalling applications will re-create this.

One big caveat, though. Be careful where Outlook files are placed, if you ever need to reinstall.
@magnusak:

I've come across this exact problem. A friend had a hard disk partitioned in two. I was going to wipe and reinstall Windows but didn't want to delete partition two (it had a recovery partition on it, which would be difficult to recreate).

The Users folders was stored on partition two and I wanted to move it to partition one (there is no benefit having it on a second partition if it's part of the same physical drive anyway). I deleted the majority of the Users folder (Vista let me delete a surprising amount of it, given that I was logged in as that user. About the only thing I couldn't delete was NTUSER.DAT, obviously).

I did this, rebooted and got the "Unable to load profile". I literally could only then log in using Safe Mode. This wasn't a problem (more an observation) because like I said, I was about to reinstall Windows anyway.
@magnusak Hmm doesn't sound great. Thanks for the tip off.
@bradavon - not sure you're describing your scenario sufficiently accurately. Here's what I think you're describing:
Partition 0: Recovery
Partition 1: System
Partition 2: Data

There are VERY good reasons to separate your data from your OS & App files:

1) When it comes to reinstalling your OS, you don't have to copy all your data off your PC and back again afterwards.

2) Backing up your data is now simpler as there's less confusion about what is your data and what is the data that your apps will re-create when they're reinstalled.

3) If you have a primary system drive which is limited in space (e.g. you can only afford to buy a 60GB SSD), moving all your data to your data partition/drive will free up a lot of room on your primary system drive.
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Very little reward, high risk
Ed Bott 4th Feb 2011
@magnusak @simonneedham

This is why I do not recommend this approach.
@simonneedham my question is how do u create a windows install that will do that, i've googled my head off and nothing comes up in understandable english. I always end up using windows profile relocator to move everything over after the clean install is done.
@veer01 It's an option that's available when your perform a Windows 7 Unattended installation. Here's the entry point to the documentation http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd349343(WS.10).aspx . Basically you write an xml config file that answers all the questions one usually answers during the install process.

However, I'd take @magunsak and Ed's advice on this one. I agree with them that the results when the D drive blows up outweighs the cleanliness of having a D:\Users folder.
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NTFS Mounts
s_souche 4th Feb 2011
No need to drag multiple drive letters. Just need to create mount point for your spinning drive. As you do that, you can have your Program Files in the spinning for instance, as this is the largest filetree you'll ever have....
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Disabling Windows Vista/7 Indexing isn't a bad idea. If you regularly search for files or Outlook/Windows Live Mail, it's very useful but otherwise it has little worth.

I've disabled it because A: I rarely search, B: I know where all my User files are (Docs/Pictures/Video/Music) and C: When I do search it's usually System folders that I don't index anyway. Windows indexes the Start Menu contents regardless.

It does work particularly well in Outlook though but it's not worth having it enabled just for that alone. It works well enough without it.
@bradavon deleted :S
It's annoying laptops don't come as standard with two SATA slots. I'd love to put a SSD in my laptop and turn my HDD into a secondary drive but I instead have to make do with a fast SATA drive on it's own. External storage isn't practical for laptops.
3 months ago I bought a Lenovo R500 laptop with Win 7 Pro 64 bit, and after I got familiar with it, discovered it had a built-in option to install a 2nd SATA HDD in the place normally taken up by the optical disc. I did have to purchase a carrier from Lenovo to accept a 2.5" HDD and lock it into the optical disc slot. This option was not mentioned in the promotional literature & seems to be little known. Asking retailers which laptops offer something like this is an exercise in futility. Model R500 has since been discontinued. It was one of Lenovo's cheaper models.
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Many of the new Lenovo Thinkpads have this feature. I have a T420 and I've put in a SSD for the OS, and have a 7200 rpm HD in the optical slot, which Lenovo calls the "Ultrabay". It's a great setup.
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News Flash!
Alan Smithie 4th Feb 2011
Ed Bott admits to Linux envy:

Yes, it would be lovely if Windows was designed like other operating systems (cough, Linux, cough)

wink
@Alan Smithie
When will you software zealots lean that all software (including OS'es) are flawed in their own way. Linux isn't necessarily better than Windows or OS X. The same could be said for ALL OS combinations. Any code written is innately flawed. The question is, do you know why ALL code is innately flawed???
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RE: Ed Bott admits to Linux envy
fatman65535 Updated - 4th Feb 2011
@Alan Smithie

I could not help but laugh at that one. Are you sure the correct expression would not be "(choke)"?

You poor WindoZE guys, just all of the b------- you have to do to move a dammed profile.

Here is the line in my fstab file that mounts a separate hard drive for my data:

/dev/sdc1 /home/fatman/Files ext4 noatime 0 0

NO f------ around in some registry to make it work. Oh, and BTW, the fstab file is simply a plain text file, nothing fancy. I thank God I took the time to evaluate Linux 4 years ago; and I no longer have to content with that `defective` M$ operating system.
@fatman65535

...it's not for non-tech savvy users.

Yes it's simple if you know what you are doing (I've done it too) but I would never expect anyone else in my family to do it, in the same way I would never expect them to edit the Registry.

It's great feature of Linux, but it's not a simple "Click this button to move your Home folder" feature. It requires some searching, and willingness to learn about the OS. Which for techies awesome (it's one of my reasons for using Linux), but non techies don't want to have to think about it!

If MS implemented this, you can quarantee it would be user friendly.
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@Alan Smithie. Wake up!
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Gentlemen,

Where is your sense of humour ?
@Alan Smithie

All drained out due people starting flame-wars over this OS it better then ________ and stuff like that. People can't seem to get their minds wrapped around that all software is flawed. (However, with the iZombies, it almost like telling them what they're eating is chicken and not human flesh.)
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@Alan Smithie - Is Ed smoking again?

lol...
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MS continues to disappoint
bmgoodman 4th Feb 2011
I'm still annoyed that MS *still* does not make it easy to relocate user profiles. I had "Documents and Settings" on a separate drive for 9 years with XP. With Win 7, it looks like a *much* riskier proposition to relocate "users", as Ed warns against.

How have they not copied Linux/Unix after so many years?
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Another Option for User Data
johnfenjackson@... Updated - 4th Feb 2011
I employ a different technique for handling 'user data'.
Instead of moving Windows locations ... I simply direct all 'SaveAs' dialog boxes from all applications to store files where I want, not where Windows wants/expects. In addition I add all the places where I want files to be saved to the 'Favorites' list. The latter is a useful feature introduced with VISTA which appears as an option on all 'SaveAs' dialog boxes.

So, for example, I have a 'Software Downloads' folder in 'Favorites' which puts the files in ... well does it matter, it's where I want them! In my case to an HP MicroServer on the network. In your case it might be to a second disc in the PC ... or you might want to put audio in one place ... and video in another ... and your own precious photographs in another.

The point is that YOU decide where files are going ... and you tell Windows (via Favorites) what to do, instead of ... all Homer Simpson's Music goes to ... DOH ... /user/MyMusic.

This technique is not as onerous as it sounds because most applications, once told where to save the last file, will offer up the same location for the next file. If one is working on a project this is invariably correct. And if there is an exception ... well Windows would have got it wrong anyways!

Having said that, if you are a disorganised "I'm a consumer - put my stuff in the 'MyStuff' folder and don't bother me with the details" kind of guy ... then Ed's procedure will be just the ticket! One thing I've noticed about casual users is that they have never heard of Windows Explorer and never manipuate the file system: they rely on Windows to find files and are hopelessly lost otherwise.
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Again, what is the reliability of new SSDs?
wackoae Updated - 4th Feb 2011
Just like in the last related article, I ask has the reliability improved? So far I haven't seen any new article showing that the reliability of SSDs has significantly improve compared to earlier generations. Many of the previous serious test showed that SSDs have a very high rate of early unrecoverable failure.

Shrinking the size of the part and adding some IO access speed is completely useless if the reliability goes down the drain and the higher price drive craps out within the 1st year.
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SHow me a link, please
Ed Bott 4th Feb 2011
@wackoae

I am still researching this, but everything I have seen says the current generation of SSDs (2009 and later) do not suffer from any reliability issues.

I have some interviews scheduled to discuss more. However, I do not belive that major OEMs would be shipping SSDs in any volume if they were problematic.
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RE: Windows 7 and SSDs: Cutting your system drive down to size
johnfenjackson@... Updated - 4th Feb 2011
"I do not belive that major OEMs would be shipping SSDs in any volume if they were problematic."

The problem I have with EB is that he writes a splendid article on how to use Windows does tons of reasearch on various important issues ... and then blots his copybook with complete crap.

1. VISTA
2. SANDYBRIDGE
3. VAIL

... 'would not ship in volume if they were not problematic'.

Sheesh!
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The part you missed...
Ed Bott 4th Feb 2011
@johnfenjackson

"I am still researching this..."

Meanwhile, you mention Vail? Not shipping. Sandy Bridge? Brand new and very similar to 2008-era SSDs. I would not buy a first-gen model of any new chipset for precisely this reason. Vista? What does that have to do with hardware?
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When backed into a corner, just mention "Vista"?
AllKnowingAllSeeing 4th Feb 2011
@Ed Bott

I guess that's the new trick:

1) Say something.
2) Asked for proof you can't produce.
3) Mention "Vista".
4) Believe that it was ever enough to fool somebody.
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people like johnfenjackson just don't get it, to them they think they're doing a great "smoke and mirror" trick, but they don't see that we can see the wires.
@wackoae

The newer SSDs are more reliable than the older generation. That being said, more reliable is NOT 100% reliable. A good backup solution is still your best friend since, as we all know, Murphy was a raving optimist.

As usual, YMMV.
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NO Drive is 100% reliable...
dtroyerSMU Updated - 4th Feb 2011
@DNSB ....even HDs fail at a regular rate...usually @ the 4 to 5 years in fact. Having worked in a high volume of computers area (university) all HDs, in Apples, IBM clones, etc... fail at a regular rate. SSDs have improved to 1mil MTBF, which is as good if not just as good as HDs today.
@DNSB show me anything that is 100% reliable! Other than death and taxes wink

SSD's do NOT eliminate the need to have decent backups. And having backups means nothing if you've not practiced restoring your machine from them.
@dtroyerSMU

I don't seem to recall having said that HDs were totally reliable. Ghod knows, I've had enough drive failures over the years that some have characterized my belief in backing up data and testing restores as being nearly fanatical.

@bitcrazed

As I said, a good backup solution is your best friend. And yes, I know about testing restores not just backups. One horror story I have is from a company that I helped after their primary RAID array crashed due to the IT person not noticing the alarm when the hot spare was put into service nor when a second drive failed. He did finally notice when a third drive failed and the array was toast. At that time, he also found that his carefully done backups had been running in a test mode since a new version of their backup software was installed so nothing had been backed up locally for ~ 3 months. We started with a 6 week old off site backup which used a different system to backup over the network and then sweated out recovering most of the missing data. Not fun, nor was it cheap.

IT staffer ended up collecting EI (employment insurance) after all was said and done since part of the backup procedure was testing restores which he hadn't done in over a year.

An older story comes from the CP/M days when a secretary had a 8 inch floppy diskette fail after 2 years of use. Took the diskette out and you could see when the head had worn the oxide off the surface near the outside edge. Nothing on that floppy but CP/M and WordStar so no data loss but total panic when the system refused to boot.
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@wackoae
I've yet to hear of a single SSD failure amongst my friends and collegues and I've been happily using one for some time too.

I think you're referring to the 'TRIM'/garbage collection issue with first generation SSDs; this has been resolved with 2nd gen drives.

As for 'brute' reliability, I would expect SSDs to vastly outlast conventional HDDs, at least in desktop/laptop scenarios.
@wackoae

Can you link these reviews of "unrecoverable" failure? That sounds like a controller issue, as the cell would be readable without refresh for something like a DECADE. So, if you can link that at all please, that would be great.

If it's an IO controller issue, then yes, changing the IO controllers is completely relevant to the question of IO failures.
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Data Location Change
magic@... 4th Feb 2011
Data folders can be relocated by a simple drag/drop to new location. Windows will update the location auto magically. I have been doing this method since windows xp.
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I've documented that before
Ed Bott 4th Feb 2011
@magic@...

That was true with Vista as well. I find this manual method more foolproof.

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