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Windows 7 Family Pack offer: 'ended' or 'sold out'?

By | December 7, 2009, 3:27pm PST

Summary: Last week, would-be Windows 7 upgraders noticed that the discounted Family Pack upgrade boxes had all but disappeared from store shelves and online inventories. Is the deal gone for good, or will it return after the New Year? Microsoft’s marketing messages are so confused I’m not sure they even know what’s coming up next. I’d love to find out who’s in charge, so I can ask what on earth they’re thinking.

When it announced its plan to offer a Family Pack upgrade for Windows 7 (three Home Premium licenses at a drastic discount), Microsoft said it would be a “limited time offer.” Last week, less than six weeks after it went on sale, online sources of the retail packaged product started disappearing. Is it gone for good?

I’ve asked Microsoft repeatedly for comment and received only this terse statement in response:

The Windows 7 Family Pack was introduced as a limited time offer while supplies last in select geographies. Response has been very positive and in some cases, the offer has sold out. Customers interested in upgrading their PCs should purchase Home Premium, Professional or Ultimate upgrade products.

My blogging colleague Mary Jo Foley thinks that the Family Pack offer might come back. I’m not sure what to think.

Historically, this sort of deal doesn’t come back. Microsoft offered a “screaming deal” on Windows 7 upgrades for two weeks in late June and early July, right after the product was released to manufacturing. That half-price offer was well received by beta testers and early adopters, but there’s no sign it’s returning. Similarly, when Microsoft offered a Family Pack for Vista (same name, very different offer), the deal lasted for a few months and then disappeared, never to be seen again.

And now, just to confuse customers and analysts a little more, Microsoft has subtly tweaked the wording on its web page for the Family Pack SKU. This morning, the page said “The Windows 7 Family Pack offer has ended.” A few hours later, it was tweaked to read, “The Windows 7 Family Pack is now sold out through many of our partners.”

 

If you’re a glass-half-full sort, you could take that subtle change in wording as a sign that the Family Pack is poised to make a comeback sometime next year. The glass-half-empty crowd can interpret it as Microsoft’s way of emphasizing that the deal is absolutely, positively over: “No more copies in the warehouse, sorry.” I take it as a sign that the Windows marketing team doesn’t have a clue about what it wants to do, and its fragmented, contradictory messaging is a sign of its internal confusion. How clueless is their communication strategy? I can’t even find out which executive is responsible for the decision so I can ask what on earth they’re thinking and make a pitch on behalf of the Windows community. (If anyone at Microsoft wants to ‘fess up, you know how to reach me.)

The oddest thing about this whole situation is that Microsoft is treating the Family Pack as a temporary price cut rather than as a product that meets a distinct need for its customers. Look, multi-PC households are common, and the Family Pack is already well accepted. Microsoft doesn’t call its Office Home and Student product a Family Pack, but every copy comes with the right to install it on three PCs in a single household, just like the Windows 7 Family Pack. And of course, Apple has validated the category with its $199, five-copies-per-household OS X Family Pack, which it reduced to $49 for Snow Leopard.

It’s really short-sighted for Microsoft to discourage consumers from upgrading as many of their household PCs as possible to Windows 7. Many of the consumer features of new OS (especially the HomeGroup feature and Play To media streaming) work best when Windows 7 is running on multiple PCs in a home network. A household with three Windows 7 PCs is going to be able to do a lot more interesting and fun things than one with a single Windows 7 PC and two others running Vista or XP. That interesting/fun experience translates into positive word of mouth, which means more upgraders in more households.

In this economy, at a cost of $120 per upgrade, I am certain that many heads of multi-PC households will choose to move only one PC to Windows 7 (by buying a retail box or getting Windows 7 preinstalled on a new PC). I’m equally certain that many if not most of them would jump at the three-copies-for-$150 Family Pack deal if it returned. When I pencil it out on the back of an envelope, bringing back the Family Pack means everyone wins: Microsoft gets more money from those incremental upgrades on PCs that might otherwise have stuck with XP. Its customers are happier, and they tell their friends. And Apple has one less item on its list of anti-Windows talking points.

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RE: Windows 7 Family Pack offer: 'ended' or 'sold out'?
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You should work for microsoft
jdbukis@... 7th Dec 2009
You seem to have more of a handle on the consumer than they do.
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Why should MS be different.
andrej770 7th Dec 2009
No other major US corporation cares about the consumer. Why would you think MS would?
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Cue the double standards...
NonZealot 7th Dec 2009
And of course, Apple has validated the category
with its $199, five-copies-per-household OS X Family
Pack, which it reduced to $49 for Snow Leopard.


When an Apple product is more expensive, we get post
after post from the Apple apologists stating:
1. Why should Apple change considering how much profit
they make?

2. You get what you pay for.

So my responses are:

MS makes even more profit than Apple without
offering a family pack. Why would they change?

and

Sure Windows is more expensive, in some cases,
much more expensive but hey, you get what you
pay for!

Cue the double standards...
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The difference is
Michael Kelly 7th Dec 2009
that MS wants to cater to all possible consumers and Apple doesn't.
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Actually the difference is
Richard Flude 7th Dec 2009
Apple produces a better product for less than MS. NZ can't handle it and reverts to his unsupported double standard line.
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The price for Apple is much more
Michael Kelly 7th Dec 2009
when you consider the prerequisites. And anybody not meeting those prerequisites will be sued out of existence, so there's little chance of anybody trying to skip out on those.

As for which is better, it depends on your needs. Each is better in its own way, so different people with different needs will find one to be better than the other.
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Apple produces a better product for less than MS. NZ can't handle it and reverts to his unsupported double standard line.

Yeah, to take advantage of the $49 5-license pack, you already have to have spent about $7500 (5 Apple units). On the other hand, you can buy 5 decent PCs for $3000, pay the $600 for 5 Win7 licenses, and still be way ahead of the game. Cheap isn't Apple's product. Cheap was that post that wasn't well thought out.
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You're forgetting something
Fred Fredrickson 7th Dec 2009
The comparison was with the price of the latest OS. It makes sense to get the Mac OS X 5 licence pack even if you only have 2 Macs, there is no need to actually use all 5 licences.

Also, because most copies of OS X are full licences, you can sell the old copy for about half price, making the new one even cheaper.

If you want to compare the overall price and features of Apple's PCs, then do so. Most real-world comparisons show Apple's products are competitively priced when compared to IBM-compatible PCs with similar features. They aren't the cheapest, nor are they the most expensive.

Apple PCs also get much better resale value, so the total cost of ownership over the life of the PC is usually about the same or better than a Windows PC.
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Matter of opinion
bobiroc 8th Dec 2009
and you are entitled to it. Now if you are just referring to the OS then I do not think OS X is a better product and it has it's own share of bugs and shortcomings but to each is own. I mean OSX is so great yet so many Mac owners feel the need to run Windows on their systems.
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plus they may have 1 or 2 applications that do not have OS X equivalents, I know that is what I went through when I switched to Apple there was no support for my GPS. I used Virtual PC (POWERPC Mac) .

But since their switch to Intel and their anti consumer behavior I have drifted back to Linux.
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Are Apple products better?
mwagner@... 8th Dec 2009
It is debatable whether or not a $1200 iMac is superior to a $1200 PC from Dell or HP/Compaq (or whomever). Of course, Microsoft does not dictate what hardware it's OEMs support.

Certainly, a lot of consumers would find a $500 PC preferable to a $1200 iMac simply because the $500 PC does evertyhing they need it to do!

MacOSX supports one platform and only a handful of configurations while Windows supports thousands of configurations on hundreds of products from dozens of OEMs. This gives the consumer more choice and allows the consumer to configure their system to meet their individual needs.

Consumers can run whatever OS they want (including old versions of Windows) on their new PC. Not so much with the Macintosh.

In the end, Apple has chosen to appeal to a smaller, more elite group of consumers willing to pay more money for their computers while all but ignoring the enterprise markets.

Windows PC vendors can keep their prices down in large part because Microsoft caters to the needs of their OEMs and enterprise customers.

Everyone gets what they want at the price they want to pay. Everyone, including the consumer, wins!
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Not throwing out double standards
Pete "athynz" Athens 8th Dec 2009
but MS would have been wise as far as PR to have kept the family pack available until the end of January 2010 IMHO...

On a side note, it is a really sweet OS - it is what Vista should have been from the beginning... and anyone who says the will not upgrade to 7 because the family pack is no longer available is really going to miss out on a great OS.
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it makes your life a lot more difficult. My guess is that MS is simply testing the market. If sales drop too much the offer will come back. If not, it will not come back. This is after all about maximizing revenue.
with the market. If they guessed wrong, they may have lost those customers for good. Many of them only make these kind of purchases once a year.
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I agree, worst possible time to do it.
No_Ax_to_Grind 8th Dec 2009
Makes little sense.
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What do you expect?
Wintel BSOD 8th Dec 2009
When they're the only game in town and can afford to be the big, pompous monopoly that they are, they can afford to blow any good deals away.

They know sheep out there will pay full price.
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I honestly don't believe...
PollyProteus 8th Dec 2009
...that Microsoft is playing games. More like they under appreciated the Family Pack demand and said "this is how many we'll make and stop there." Basically a limited run.

I do believe that Microsoft is truly surprised by how well the Family Pack was recieved. But then again, if you scan ebay, there are 80 separate entries and a few of the "buy it now" entries have multiple copies, so it's possible that the bulk buyers swooped in and are making money off of Microsoft's short-sightedness in this area.
Microsoft's Xbox 360 competes directly against Playstation 3, yet racing wheels like the Logitech G25/G27 have drivers for Windows Vista and 7, so that the wheel can be used for PC gaming. However, there are no third-party or native Windows drivers for using Xbox 360 racing wheels on Windows PCs. And now this nonsense of ending the Windows 7 family pack.

Chalk up another one for Microsoft going out of its way to shoot itself and its customers, in the foot...
Whatever their rationale, Microsoft should have
learned from the Vista fiasco that perception is
reality. This company continues to astound me with
their complete ineptitude at controlling their public
image. Their marketing department is the polar
opposite of Apple's.

In this economy, after a release that many people
(rightfully or wrongly) believed was a poor product,
Microsoft should be doing everything in their power to
provide good value to their customers. Punishing your
most faithful customers because they dare to want to
use more of your products is asinine.

I personally know of someone who is now going to get
the "unlimited family pack" for which Microsoft sees
no revenue because he has no desire to purchase 3
licenses without any sort of discount. I'm not
condoning that behavior, but people rationalize it
with little difficulty when they feel like they're
being ripped off.
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Lot of hackers already working on it.
strangename 8th Dec 2009
When MS decides to make it more expensive the incentive to get it for free goes up. I purchased a full version but couldn't justify another license for my other PC that is used very little. Would like to use Homegroup but gee, MS made that impossible for an XP machine. What shall I do?
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Personally, I find Microsoft's decision confusing and somewhat self-defeating. If the goal was to push upgrade sales during the holiday season of a down economy (perhaps balancing the loss of revenue from the expected lower than normal new PC purchases this year) then they would want to keep the deal going at least through Christmas.

Yet they either sold out, killed the promotion, or didn't ... and either won't or can't clarify. In my experience customer confusion always leads to a loss of sales.

I fail to see why anyone should upgrade an old computer's operating system. The systems run perfectly fine with minimal maintenance on the OS they were designed for.

Personally I get new operating systems all the time because I'm a tech and I like playing with them ... but ... most folks just get one when buying a new computer, and then neither the hardware requirements nor the device drivers cause them any issues.

The only reason I can see that a regular home user would upgrade perfectly good Windows XP computers to release 7 would be to standardize his family's systems so as to make it easier to maintain ... and the only way that I can see that happen is if they can get a discount on a license to use in his whole home.

I think the family deal was a good idea, and I think that MS should have just made it a new SKU ... after all, you can buy Win7 in a zillion different levels and types anyway, what's one more?

Just my $0.02 USD and your opinion may well vary.

Regards,
Jon
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I was thinking about doing the "family pack" in a year or so. if it's gone, I'll be happy to stick with XP until software no longer runs on it. The only reason i went from 98 to XP Pro which in some ways is inferior to 98 was because current patched mission critical software would no longer run on 98.
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I made a few attempts to visit local stores and buy a Family Pack. It was never in stock.
once again, if their marketing geniuses were on the ball, they would have made sure there were enough inventory to go around,,,or ,,perhaps that was their aim? peak the interest and then only have available the more expensive versions?
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... consumers! Ironic, isn't it?

You got it right, Ed! There are lots of us with mutli-PC households. The Family Pack serves a legitimate need. While everyone else is jacking up prices for the holidays, Microsoft could have looked like a hero (the guy with the white hat) by simply extending the Family Pack option through the holidays (say to mid-January).

If it was a matter of inventory of retail packaging, they could (and still can) run any kind of promotion they want to extend the discount to users who bought a regular retail package by simply issuing a new multi-PC key to anyone who applied for with with the proper proof of purchase in a particular time frame.

Lots of ways for Microsoft to come out looking good (and ultimately earning more money - not less) by offering such a package.
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Student Discount for 3 PCs?
Hal_9001 8th Dec 2009
Wait a minute ... You stated: "Microsoft doesn?t call its Office Home and Student product a Family Pack, but every copy comes with the right to install it on three PCs in a single household, just like the Windows 7 Family Pack."
I understand you to say that a student could install his Win 7 on 3 PCs. I have not found this on any website. Do you have more info?
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Office not Win7
iamagas 8th Dec 2009
Ed was referring to Microsoft Office Home and Student edition that you can install on 3 pc's.
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If the Family Pack is gone ...
terrykuntz 8th Dec 2009
If Microsoft doesn't bring back the Family Pack for Windows 7 upgrades I will not be upgrading any of my PC's to Windows 7.
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RE: If the Family Pack is gone...
QuimaxW 8th Dec 2009
I would agree for myself as well. Without the family pack, it's simply too expensive for me to upgrade the multiple computers in my house to Win 7. A couple are older, so we'll probably end up migrating to Win7 when we purchase new machines with Win7 already installed.
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Most multiple PC families are not going to have three PCs which have enough RAM or HDD space to run Windows 7. Many won't even have DVD-ROM drives.

If the typical family buys a new PC every three years, a three-PC family could have a seven year old PC which MIGHT run Windows 7 "as-is" but probably not well.

If a family's newest PC is three years old, they could have a six-year-old PC and a nine-year-old PC, neither of which will run particularly well with Windows 7.

Microsoft would rather you buy a new PC with Window 7 preloaded and upgrade the others later. In the end, Microsoft makes as much money (or more) from OEM sales than they do from retail sales. And, this makes Microsoft OEMs a whole lot happier too!
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I guess I'm not fitting into the average
Pete "athynz" Athens 8th Dec 2009
considering I have 4 computers that could be running Windows 7, 3 of which ARE running Win 7 by way of that oh-so elusive and time limited family pack... happy

Either way I'd have to buy an additional upgrade pack for the last computer in the house not running 7 but the timing does indeed suck...
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And that is the risk Microsoft runs ...
mwagner@... 8th Dec 2009
... when they pull a "limited time offer" at an inopportune time - like weeks for before Christmas. Sometimes they are their own worst enemy.
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Same Here
Hal_9001 8th Dec 2009
I have 3 PCs, (1 yr. old, 2 yrs. old, 4 yrs. old respectively) all able to run Win 7 accroding to the upgrade wizard and was very seriously planning to upgrade all to Win 7, but not now.

I think I will give Ubuntu a try with my 4 yr. old PC. Who knows, it might open up new opportunities.

Thanks M$.
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Same here.
OpEdMunkey 10th Dec 2009
If the deal isn't repeated that's fine - MS just saved me some dough I was hesitant to spend anyway.
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I am running 2 desktops and 1 Laptop, 2 w/XP and 1 with Vista. Currently building a high speed machine for internet use. Based on MS high cost for Windows 7, I will not upgrade existing PC's and will try Linux on the new machine. Have always used MS for 30+ years, but price forced me to look elsewhere.
Kinda flies in the face of the current marketing campaign of the consumer being the driving force behind this new Microsoft OS, doesn't it? If I was so instrumental in the development of the PC, why can't I also be instrumental in marketing it? It's a NO-BRAINER. Get the OS out to as many computers as possible. Stopping the sales of the Family Pack is short-sighted and - not to put too fine a point on it - stupid.
I disagree with an earlier comment that no US Corporation cares about the consumer. I think there are several companies that act with integrity and drive to make products and services of value whilst turning a profit. However, Microsoft lately, has not proven to be one of them. They constantly short their users. I am not that tech savvy, but Vista has made me so furious. I am thinking of investing both learning time and effort to transition to Linux and openware, just to be free of the bohemoth's glitchy promises.
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... to move to open-source, more power to you, but most consumers have neither the special knowledge nor are they willing to put in the time to move to open-source software and to deal with the challenges that brings with it.
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What tripe
LazLong 8th Dec 2009
Still pushing the same dogma, myth, FUD.....
Linux & Open-source require no more "special knowledge" and takes no more "time" than becoming familiar the latest MS or Apple offerings. As with those systems one chooses their level of involvement based on interest & need, but one major advantage: you don't have pay for the privilege.
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Reality will always get you
kdjkdj@... 8th Dec 2009
The Linux/open source proponents lack of a reality check always amazes me. I use open source applications but my 30+ years in the industry gives me an advantage. The mass of users are either too inexperienced, unable to invest time for any change, or are corporate users whose corporations are not about to invest the resources necessary for change.

As for me I can change any time that I want to but why should I want to? After many years of Unix experience I still do not see a compelling reason to abandon Windows for myself. Neither do so many others.
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A Separate Reality.
LazLong 8th Dec 2009
I did not say you have to abandon anything or that it was the destine to take over MS and the world etc, etc..........

I was responding to Mr Wagner's silly assertion that becoming familiar and using Linux is any different than becoming familiar and using any other system.

I too have over 30yrs experience on multiple system and I choose Linux on many of my systems, yet also have & use Windows, Mac's & others. Each have the qualities & advantages, real & perceived. Windows is not the only thing and for some not that necessary.

It seems to me Linux has tremendous utility & value for anyone, that's aware & interested. Yet it would appear the better/best utility & value is at both ends of the user spectrum.

For the professional/enthusiast who understands more than the fundamentals & concepts. It is the same 1's & 0's....

For the casual/general user it is just a tool/appliance and is equally Greek or
Geek to them. It is the same 1's & 0's....

Those between, have (or are locked in to) a specific need/app/vendor/work-flow or they just put to much credence in marketing, probably would not see the value.

It is not like there is any kind of parity(availability) in the common channels for PC's. Still in areas where there is parity it holds it's own and even does very well; phones, DVRs's, GPS, netbooks, etc not mention Google.

None the less use what serves your wants/needs..... but becoming familiar & using Linux requires no more "special knowledge" or extra "time & effort" than Windows or Mac........thats just maketing......myth, FUD, dogma.......
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Sure, if you are a geek, but ...
mwagner@... 8th Dec 2009
... most of the Windows users I know cannot provide their own tech support. (They call me instead.)

If you cannot provide your own tech support for Windows (or otherwise know a Linux geek) you will not be able to install a FREE version of Linux.

Consumers then are left to find a retailer who will sell them Linux preinstalled. Such systems, when you can find them, cost no less than a similarly configured Windows system.

Asking a consumer to move to Linux and support themselves is terribly naive when they can go to their local retailer and buy a PC with Windows 7 pre-installed. (To be fair, these folks couldn't upgrade their Windows XP boxes to Windows 7 either but that's not the point.)
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Not just for geeks any more.....
LazLong 8th Dec 2009
Anyone with an interest.
More and more are becoming more tech aware, welcome to modern times...
And everything starts somewhere. Is following instructions & prompts, downloading an burning a CD etc, all that difficult?

Those who would not install Windows would not be likely to be interested, but in many cases it is far easier and quicker than Windows. It is unfortunate that there is no parity in the common big box channels. but more & more of the custom & smaller shops offer it(sales, installation, support) as a value add for those that are interested.
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Linux not just for geeks?
M.R. Kennedy 9th Dec 2009
I have an example and a comment for ya on that one. Here goes:

"Anyone with an interest.
More and more are becoming more tech aware, welcome to modern times...

And everything starts somewhere. Is following instructions & prompts, downloading an burning a CD etc, all that difficult?"

The answers to the above are "Not really" and "Yes". Here's the example...

I play a particular MMO. In the user forums for that game, there have been many (perhaps hundreds) of questions posed by potential players who have had issues with their computers not being able to run the game properly. Most of the time, the problems boil down to either 1.) not having enough system RAM and 2.) not having a sufficiently capable graphics subsystem.

Being fairly knowledgeable, I do what I can to help these people. But many times, I've received responses that have included the immortal line, "How do I install (insert RAM or graphics card here) in my computer? Plz help!!!"

So no, I disagree with you when you say that people are becoming "more tech aware". "Aware" of the technology existing, yeah. But *unaware* of how to manage or upgrade it.

And just FYI, installing Windows 7 isn't as tough or slow as you apparently believe it to be. I used an Upgrade disc to perform a fresh installation of Win7 Professional (64-bit). Yes, I'm somewhat knowledgeable, and I followed Ed's instructions on how to do it. The initial installation took all of 20 minutes (after formatting the volume)--less time than it took to install Vista Ultimate 64-bit on the same machine. The final "upgrade" took a bit over an hour. Big deal, I had a book to pass the time. Worked like a champ. And yes, there was an existing Windows installation on the installation volume. Nyahh!

And now, for the comment: If Linux (pick yer favorite distro) was so easy for the average (not a *specific*) person to install, use, find applications to run on, et cetera, and for a far lower price (read as: "free") than "Windoze", don't you think that most, if not *all* OEMs would switch even their *consumer* products to one form of Linux or another, and push the hell out of it? I mean, c'mon! Screw MS and go all-Linux.

{great howling silence from the OEMs on this subject, eh?}

You may be able, with a certain amount of coaching and patience, teach your Aunt Sadie how to use Linux and some of the simpler applications that are packaged with *your* favorite distro. But getting a randomly-chosen person to make the switch from Windows and virtually *all* of the familiar applications they normally use is going to be a long uphill battle. And it's one that you're likely to lose.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Linux is still pretty much for geeks.

Linux is *different*. In most cases, it's certainly inexpensive or even free. But it's not necessarily *better*. And Linux has just as many limitations (though perhaps *different* ones) as Windows does.
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They got my 50 bucks
mlrodman@... 8th Dec 2009
On the preorder. I sure am NOT gonna spend another 120 bucks on my wife's old pc.
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Then wait until it dies ...
mwagner@... 8th Dec 2009
... and buy her a new one. That's what Microsoft WANTS you to do.
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Maybe that's what they want, but..
Wintel BSOD 8th Dec 2009
...if the old PCs still good, why bother.
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That's a good point
M.R. Kennedy 9th Dec 2009
And far be it from me to suggest or recommend that someone install Microsoft's Latest on a likely marginal machine. Oh, not necessarily marginal that it couldn't run Windows 7, but if the user is happy with the OS that's already there, why spend the money until the entire machine needs to be replaced?

Contrary to my earlier held belief, my almost 4-year-old HP notebook probably *does* have the moxie to run Windows 7. Will I bother to upgrade the OS? Nope. It does well enough with XP. When I'm ready to replace it, the new notebook will have Win7 pre-installed.

That's good enough for me.
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But that's not what they want
Wintel BSOD 9th Dec 2009
They want you to pay full price
They want you to spend that money

Nothing wrong with that, but people need to be aware of their pricing schemes.

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