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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Adobe remains creative pro choice despite Apple wild-cards

By | March 8, 2011, 6:14am PST

Despite continuing wild cards revolving around Apple’s lack of support for Flash and open Web standards, Adobe’s business appears to be chugging along nicely. In fact, the outlook for Creative Suite 5 upgrades and other development tools remain strong even with Apple’s ban on Flash, according to a survey by Jefferies.

Jefferies analyst Ross MacMillan conducts a survey of 50 creative pros each quarter. The immediate takeaway from MacMillan’s survey is that upgrades continue for Creative Suite 5, which drives Adobe’s revenue. Creative professionals also note that Adobe tools will be used alongside open standards such as HTML5, JavaScript and CSS3. In fact, 94 percent say open standards are positive to neutral for Adobe.

Adobe’s standing with developers is also helped by the fact that it is finding a way to work around Apple’s restrictions. For instance, Wallaby, an application from Adobe Labs that has generated some buzz, can transform Flash code into HTML5 as a way to reach Apple’s iOS.

The bottom line appears to be that Adobe remains the developer choice. Macmillan notes 88 percent of creative pros will use Adobe alongside open standards and only 13 percent expect to use Apple tools exclusively for iOS development. Survey respondents also noted they can use Adobe AIR to build Apple iOS apps. Apple’s move to lay off plans to only support native applications has appeared to help Adobe.

A few key charts to note:


Other odds and ends:

  • 88 percent of respondents haven’t adopted Adobe’s Omniture web analytics tools.
  • 62 percent said that Apple’s refusal to support Flash was neutral for Adobe and 38 percent said it was negative.
  • There has been a spike in respondents (more than 60 percent) planning to upgrade to Creative Suite 5 in the next 3 to 6 months.

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RE: Adobe remains creative pro choice despite Apple wild-cards
tryagain23 10th Oct
Interesting well the surveys are pretty much confirms my feelings. So I think this is very true. free cams
that Adobe was a doomed company.
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You can't believe everything you hear
use_what_works_4_U 8th Mar 2011
@John Zern
Now can you?
To survive, you have to evolve with change, even if it was a from a kick up the arse from Apple. Could be the best thing that ever happen to them.
And we have the iPad to thank for that. happy
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Interesting well the surveys are pretty much confirms my feelings. So I think this is very true. free cams
I decided to skip a version and upgrade from CS3 to CS5, then found out Adobe changed their policy and is charging more for the older upgrade. I came to realize I am quite happy with my CS3 suite and only upgraded my standalone Photoshop to the latest version. I'll probably drop my CS3 suite when it no longer is useful and buy individual Apps from Adobe or other vendors.
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Robert Hahn Updated - 8th Mar 2011
Adobe is smart to realize that the Flash IDE need not rely on the Flash runtime as the only way to execute the developer's ideas. Using back-end compilers to spit out AIR or HTML5 helps fulfill the promise of cross-platform development.

It's probably time for the Flash runtime to go away in any case. It dates from a time when doing smooth animation on 33MHz 486's was a big deal. With today's multicore processors and GPU's, the Flash runtime is kind of a 'layer in search of a mission'. But the Flash IDE is still a nifty tool for preparing animations, and even for scripting simple interactive apps.
@Robert Hahn, most most benchmarks that developers have done when it comes to animations show Flash generally a lot faster than similar HTML5 content.

Meanwhile, Adobe's preview of Flash Player 11 has it using the GPU a lot more, with it's own 3D API. As long as Adobe keep innovating and keeping Flash Player ahead of what is capable in browsers, I don't think it's going away.

So now with Adobe Wallaby, I don't think it will be long before iOS users get all those battery draining, annoying banner ads that they were missing without Flash.
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A mystery
Robert Hahn 8th Mar 2011
It is amazing that Adobe's Wallaby programmers have found a way to propagate the Flash runtime's "battery draining" properties straight through to HTML5. I wonder how they did that.
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@Robert Hahn

Unfortunately Apple is not smart enough to implement HTML 5 so that video and audio can be used by web app developers (no autoplay) so without Flash, you have to use Apple's appalling and dated development environment - no thank you.
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FlashBlock
Hasam1991 8th Mar 2011
Flash Block on Firefox was the best plug in ever made, you can click to enable flash or just ignore all the ads..
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Upgraded from CS3 to CS5
dragosani 8th Mar 2011
I was sold on the enhancements to Dreamweaver.

Live View, Multiscreen Preview, support for HTML 5, ect.

All of the little changes and additions have added up to be greater than the sum of the parts for me.
Adobe's poor support for the creative community and constant attempts to insert their proprietary new delivery mechanisms leave them open for some new disruptive competitor to come in and take away their primary market.
This is even more true in the coming new online media area where print publishers are naturally using extensions to Adobe's print creative software to create new web/app publications. They are failing to offer compelling interfaces and immersive experiences as they are trying to graft them on to print publications. Again this is wide open for someone to come in and change dramatically over the next year.
The big question is will someone do it, their current strategy is succeeding only due to lack of credible competition.
Whoa! HOLD ON!

The survey was with "creative professionals" that use Adobe CS. Then the author makes a HUGE jump to "developers" by whom I suspect he means Flash designers, which is a segment of the CS customer base and not indicative of the ENTIRE base! There are some wild statistical assumptions made here that aren't supported by the data...what little we're told anyway which a whole other issue.

Never mind that people who develop for all platforms is 88% meaning that while Apple is off limits to Flash it's strong enough to entice 88% of the sample to use their tools in addition to Flash. Given Apple?s tools target only iOS this shows the strength of the Apple platform. Which to me says something VERY different than this article suggests!

THE FACT is Apple is such a very VERY important platform, and even when given a complete suite from Adobe, iOS important enough that developers also use Apple's tools to cover the markets where they think their customers are.

Carry on!
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Re: NotTellinYou
DigiMediaMan 8th Mar 2011
Don't get me wrong. I like & dislike Apple products as with any other manufacturer... But tell me... Do they pay you or do you handle their advertising and PR for free?... Just curious.

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