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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Amazon likely lost $3 million thanks to Lady Gaga album deal

By | June 2, 2011, 1:55pm PDT

In an effort to attract customers and spur music album sales, Amazon offered Lady Gaga’s latest album for the extremely low price of 99 cents on May 23. It turns out that might not have been such a good idea.

That doesn’t mean that demand for Gaga’s Born This Way, which Amazon normally sells for $6.99, didn’t have enough demand. There was plenty of that and then some - so much so that it crashed servers.

The problem is that Amazon suffered from the age-old business problem of spending way too much and not making nearly enough in return on this investment. The New York Times reports:

Amazon paid Interscope’s distributor, Universal, the full wholesale price for the album — between $8 and $9 — and accepted the difference as a loss, according to several people briefed on the sales arrangement, who were not authorized to speak publicly about the details. Billboard reported that Amazon’s two-day sale yielded about 440,000 digital sales; if correct, that would mean that the retailer lost more than $3 million on the promotion.

Given that Amazon hasn’t commented on the issue publicly yet, it would be easy to assume that this is a major failure for its music sales sector.

However, maybe sales revenue (at least for this particular album) wasn’t the point. Maybe Amazon just wanted to draw more attention to digital album sales and away from competitors (i.e. iTunes). It also looks good for Lady Gaga and her label (maybe the only winners in this mess) because her first week sales were boosted to approximately 1.1 million units sold.

It’s a bold strategy, but certainly a costly one. It’s hard to explain why Amazon thought it could make money off 99-cent album sales even if it sold out of the allotted amount. It’s also difficult to predict whether or not Amazon will try such a promotion again. Lady Gaga is one of the biggest and most bankable artists at the moment, and if her album sales can’t even help out a retailer, who can?

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RE: Amazon likely lost $3 million thanks to Lady Gaga album deal
tringo007 28th Sep
Heya are using Wordpress for your site platform? I'm new to the blog world but I'm trying to get started and set up my own. Do you require any html coding knowledge to make your own blog? Any help would be really appreciated! exchange student
What a completely empty analysis. No, Amazon didn't expect to make money, selling something for $0.99 that cost them $8-9. They did this to get publicity for their cloud music service. They got tremendous publicity in addition to introducing 100's of thousands of customers to Amazon Cloud. It's called a marketing investment.
@dcborn61 : Actually I didn't even know it was available for 99 cents - not that I would of bought the crap.
@Gis Bun: ... of course, Amazon's plan worked perfectly and the company got much attention and more customers which bought a lot more stuff for regular prices, what definitely covers $3.1 million direct loss and, overall, generated huge surplus for Amazon.
@Gis Bun

She's wicked talented. Her music is very catchy and her lyrics are very witty and creative. It's not supposed to be James Brown or John Coltrane. It is what it is. And for the kind of music it is, it's top notch.
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@Gis Bun
But other people do,why should we care if YOU wouldn't buy it? Who are you?
@Gis Bun,
She's not my preference either, but I recognize that she is a great talent. Infinitely better then what is available from the current crop of so-called rock divas and boy band crap. She is an independant voice and sings quality songs. Hopefully that will catch on in the pop music business, but I'm not holding my breath.
@Stan57 But other people do,why should we care if YOU wouldn't buy it? Who are you?
Really, have I not seen more than a few posts from you talking down a product because you didn't like it so why would anybody?
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Economister 3rd Jun
@dcborn61

If someone spends $3M on commercials during the Superbowl, would she call that a loss and a failure? You do not expect an immediate return/profit from marketing expenditures.

Rachel does not have a clue. She should stick to cameras.
@dcborn61 and a bunch of free blogging to boot !
@dcborn61
Tremendous publicity? This is the first I have heard of it. (6/3/11)
Sure it must have been a loss leader, as long as it isn't against the law, it is theirs to do.
@dhays
First time I heard it, too. Guess we aren't the target market.
@dhays First I have heard of it too.
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Zero Business Intelligence
gatormba2003 3rd Jun
@dcborn61 Agreed. The writer of this article has zero business intelligence. The Lady Gaga promotion was intended to be a marketing promotion expense, and $3 million is a good deal for Amazon.
Heya are using Wordpress for your site platform? I'm new to the blog world but I'm trying to get started and set up my own. Do you require any html coding knowledge to make your own blog? Any help would be really appreciated! exchange student
95% of tech bloggers are idiots...
@owlnet : So are most of the people who respond to tech bloggers. happy
@Gis Bun

Well put.
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It caught my attention...
Mac Hosehead 2nd Jun
I went for it and 20GB on the cloud. I miss the dot-com bubble days.
@Mac Hosehead

*chuckles*
Yes to both previous posts by dcborn61 and owlnet!
Is this article for real? Wow.
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Bezos vs Bozos
Economister Updated - 3rd Jun
@Droid101

1-0 wink
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A major failure?
oncall Updated - 2nd Jun
Seriously? That's your analysis?! It was covered in every tech site and the regular news that I read and gained Amazon probably a couple hundred thousand new customers and it's a "major failure"? This is what companies like Amazon do, they sell things BELOW cost (remember the $399 TJMaxx iPad sale, same concept) if it gains them publicity (marketing) and customers, just like Amazon did with the Kindle, selling bestsellers sometimes below costs to gain market share.

P.S. and why $0.99 and not free? Because it got customers to sign up with an active credit card. I know I should not have had to state this it's so obvious, but looking at the article.....
Who said Amazon intended to make money on this?
They were willing to pay $6 per customer which is what they did.
440,000 new customers in a single day obviously exceeded their expectations given that the servers couldn't handle the load. So from this prospective this is anything but a failure.
@Scrabbler : But will half of those ever buy again from Amazon....
@Gis Bun
This is the 3 million dollar question happy
They are betting that the other half will.
@Gis Bun They now know about the cloud service, which is an incentive to buy again and gain the benefits that offers. They're also signed up as customers and have been through the purchase experience once, so assuming that everything happened positively then yes, they would probably buy again. Even if only 25% purchase a few more albums from Amazon they should come out ahead.
@Gis Bun

I know that I already have bought more from them. I probably wouldn't have gone to Amazon for music if the Gaga sale hadn't led me to try it out.
What a stupid 'analysis'. What really happened is that Amazon made a wise marketing move and gained so many new customers.
@inspiron555 : As I said above, but will half of those ever buy again from Amazon....
@Gis Bun Why WOULDN'T they buy again is the question that needs to be answered. Unless they had an adverse online musical buying experience, why would any of them make a conscious decision to never purchase online music from Amazon again? They've also got cloud storage space incentive to return. They've created accounts so all they need to do is log in. Their credit cards are on file. They've had a chance to see all that Amazon offers. It's hard to imagine why they wouldn't return.
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They may have had
Economister 3rd Jun
@inspiron555

demographics on Lady Gaga fans and decided that they do not shop at Amazon much. If so, it was a highly targeted marketing campaign. Nice going Rachel.
Truly a dreadful analysis. Ditto what everyone else is saying about the marketing brilliance of the promotion.
@lauren222 I never bash the journalists on ZDNet, but I do have to admit that after this article I'm going to have a bad feeling in the future whenever I see that trio of faces in the upper left-hand corner of a ZDNet page.
It's not as stupid as this article makes out. Amazon has been trying to shed the label of the "book website" for years now. $3 million to get a reputation as the "cheap music website" for 440000+ customers, since all of these people got a great bargain, will pay off over time. Maybe Rachel King should do an article about my stupid neighborhood grocery store, because they give out FREE samples for customers to taste! How do they expect to make money by giving away free food for God's sake?
Let's keep in mind Amazon's usual practices. Even if you buy nothing from them, as long as you sign in (or simply don't sign out, so you remain signed in on subsequent visits) they keep a record of everything you looked at--and they show it to you on future visits. They also make product recommendations based on your previous purchases and items looked at. In other words, they are showing you things you are most likely to buy. That kind of targeted marketing is a marketer's dream! "Hmm, do we spend our advertising dollars shotgunning based on demographics, or do we spend them advertising to people who look at and buy exactly what we sell? ... Hmm, ... that's a tough decision ..."
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Is the Math is Right to Start?
lewicd@... 3rd Jun
If the album normally sells at $6.99 and the sale is $0.99, how can the wholesale price be $8 to $9? Is Amazon's business strategy to lose money under normal circumstances? Doesn't this demonstrate marketing reasons beyond per unit profit?

How much is it worth a company to get 440,000 credit card numbers of a discernible demographic? Write the charge off as an advertising expense. Now how expensive does $3M sound to a large company?

This article's business analysis falls short.
The fact is, like most artists, some of her stuff is good and some of it is just crap.
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And some of it is unexplainable
Robert Hahn 3rd Jun
Hi. I'm taking up a petition to have you explain why you felt obligated to make that comment when it had nothing whatsoever to do with the article.

Perhaps you could save us some time and expense by revealing why you wrote that.
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I'm Confused...
steve_jonesuk@... 3rd Jun
...not by the 99c thing, which is fair enough.
But the *standard* selling price is $6.99 and the wholesale is $8-9... does that mean that Amazon is even selling its regular albums at a loss.
Or is that $8-9 figure erroneous?
Agree; it was a marketing investment for Amazon & I'm quite sure Jeff Bezos has already recouped the amount via the number of unique visitors & new customers to the site. As a Lady GaGa fan, I am very happy that it helped her notch more than 1 million album sales in a week - but the Amazon promo will mean the addition of an asterisk to her record at some point. I would have preferred it if she set that sales record "fair and square" (that is, sans the massive discounting) to allow for an apple to apple comparison with previous mega chart toppers like Taylor Swift, Fifty Cent, et. al.
Where does cnet continue to get the idiots it hires to write these articles? Perhaps they should just hire some smart high school interns instead. The fact that an article like this could even be written shows the writer's complete lack of understanding of business, of technology, and of life in general.
Is it really losing $3 million? That is assuming all of those customers would have bought the album at full price instead of them only buying it because it was such a low price.
What's with all the attacks on the author? She was born that way!
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Might have been a fine idea, Rachel.
geoffrey.langlois@... 3rd Jun
I'm confident that Amazon can subtract one dollar from nine dollars (or whatever).

I'm also confident that neither one of us knows the value that Amazon placed on that promotion. For all we know, Amazon may have achieved that age-old business success - spending enough to surpass their marketing goals (noting that "marketing" is not at all the same thing as "sales").

The data are interesting but your analysis seems a bit ..... rushed?
Jeff Bezos spoke about this very clearly in a previous interview with Charlie Rose when they were selling Kindle books for less than they paid the retailers.

Many customers buy extra other items when they make a purchase.

Bezos said that Amazon can *very precisely* forecast the sell through they get with other products when they discount items. As a result, he said they were profitable with Kindle books.

It is very likely Amazon's loss was much less than this and perhaps even a profit.
Actually it cost Amazon much more, another detail missed by this story: since the download service crashed, and Amazon didn't respond for a few days, they have now given me, and I assume many others, a $5 credit!!! An incredible deal for me!
I'm guessing that, like me, most people didn't sign up for the cloud storage deal when buying this album. Then, after the horrible download experience, ran straight back to iTunes.

I'll certainly be back for other crazy deals like this with music I like, but I'll use a much more seamless system for my regular music purchases.
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Desperation move
MSFTWorshipper 7th Jun
how many Kindles has Amazon sold? They still won't release the sales numbers.
Lady BlahBlah = overpriced at 99 cents.

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