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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

An odd Yahoo Mail search bug that requires escalation pronto

By | August 31, 2009, 2:47am PDT

Can you imagine your email without a search box? I couldn’t until my Yahoo Mail account lost its search mojo.

Email becomes useless without a functional search. And to make matters worse I had to find invites to one (yes there are three) fantasy football leagues. The clock was ticking for my drafts.

Here’s what I would get when I searched in Yahoo Mail:

It wouldn’t find anything with my name or terms like “fantasy football.” I dutifully went to the Yahoo help section and found similar issues here, here and here. None of those suggestions worked, but the problem I encountered had been seen by a few other users.

With that in mind I emailed the Yahoo public relations contacts handling the news that the company was dressing up tools like Yahoo Mail and Messenger. I said it’s great you guys are advancing your products, but I just want my Yahoo Mail search to work.

From there, my problem was escalated to a concierge, who had a ridiculously soothing voice. She could have been meditating (Microsoft Word suggested ‘medicating’ and that could have worked too). She said the help ticket has been passed along and she would relay what the fix was.

A few hours later, I was told:

  • The Mail Search fix can only be handled internally by Yahoo techies;
  • Yahoo migrated my mailbox to another server;
  • And my inbox was rebuilt.

The only reason I got this response is that I had a contact with Yahoo before—and a small megaphone via this blog. My next question: What happens to those poor folks on the help message boards that can’t use search?

The response was that Yahoo will escalate those problems to be fixed. I encouraged my concierge to troll any help query that includes “Mail search not working” and elevate those problems. What’s unclear is how prevalent the curious Yahoo Mail bug is. Should you have the similar issue with Yahoo Mail drop me an email and I’ll try and hook you up with the extremely helpful customer care department.  Hopefully, Yahoo will kill the bum server and you’ll get your search back.

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RE: An odd Yahoo Mail search bug that requires escalation pronto
techmasterten 29th Dec 2010
Here's my text:

Chris: It is already a system wide bug that is currently handled by our Engineering team.
ME: Correct - the engineering team can correct this on a mailbox by mailbox basis - so please have them correct this mailbox.
Chris: The bug is still open and still unresolved. I apologize but what we can do is to wait for the Engineering team to find a permanent resolution for this bug.
ME: But that makes little sense. You know how to fix it - in fact, I can tell you how, but you won't?
Chris: I'm sorry but we can't troubleshoot this issue since it is already a bug. We have to wait for the Engineering team to resolve this system wide.
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Switch to Google
ejhonda 31st Aug 2009
It's the only way Yahoo will respond appropriately.
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And vice versa?
goyta 31st Aug 2009
All e-mail providers are subject to bugs and glitches. So, what should one do when a serious bug happens in Gmail too? (Or a security breech, like some that have happened in the past?) What about all the hassle of having people unable to reach you in the address they have?

Definitely, not a practical or effective solution for everyone.
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Google has better search
jorjitop 31st Aug 2009
and better spyware. Depends which you prefer, finding your mail, or knowing that Google has a better record of all your mails and uses it to try and sell you more.
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Searching email?
CobraA1 31st Aug 2009
Searching email?

Well, I guess you ZDNet guys get enough volume of it.

Personally, I don't get that amount volume.
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YHOO E-MAIL SEARCH HAS BEEN SCREWED UP FOR MONTHS causing much consternation in a YHOO (motorcycle) GROUP that I depend on. YHOO even sent out a query asking for feedback (I reviewed it about ten days ago) indicating that YHOO was well aware of the issue. (It has not been possible to do a search of the e-mail archives of THE GROUP to research a particular issue.) But my corrective actions have served me well: I move the important e-mails into my YHOO DRAFTS folder and re-name the subject line so that I can find the important e-mails by subject line. In addition I continue to use GMAIL for 99% of my e-mails since GMAIL and its many functionalities - including SEARCH - continue to work without fail.

Imagine that !
to heck with google

had my MSN/HOTMAIL account for well over 11 years with no trouble @ all

and it never ceases to amaze me @ how many times of various forums ... thar always seems to be ethier a complaint about certain yahoo and or gmail hozers having problems

OMG! My FREE e-mail account is TOTALLY unusable because I can't search it! Puleeze.
I've had my Yahoo account since the mid '90s. I have about 50,000 emails in it currently. Never once had a problem with the email stuff...I've had issues with them sending some emails to another address (filter problem) but emails? Nope...Yahoo has been the most reliable (other than my own mailserver) mail portal I've ever used!
Ed
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I pull all my e-mail by POP3, so when I need a search my e-mail client does it, but I had a similar problem with a Yahoo group I belong to and for which I don't get messages by e-mail because of its very high volume. The search would return nothing for a keyword I knew was in a fairly recent message.

Unfortunately, in addition to the high volume, people there have that bad habit of reusing subject lines long after the real subject has shifted to something else, so a manual search was very laborious, but that was what I had to do.

Having found the message, and needing to search that group being an uncommon occurrence, I didn't open a help ticket, but I did find it ironic to happen in a service provided by a company that started and still has its mainstay in search and related technology...
Yes, I found this issue too. I was looking at an old email, copied [a bit of text] from it, pasted that text into the search field, clicked the search button and viola...

Sorry. We didn't find any results matching the following criteria:

* containing the search term: [a bit of text]

How unsatisfactory is that?

John L.
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RTL
adinas 31st Aug 2009
They also don't support RTL languages sad
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Search Index Lost My Old Emails
ronbo4610@... 31st Aug 2009
I've used Yahoo email for quite a long time. One day, searches stopped working. It seemed like the whole search index had been dropped. After that, the index started building back up again, but only with the newer emails. It continued working for a while with newer stuff being indexed and then at some point the older stuff gets dropped out. Once lost the older emails never get reindexed.

Unfortunately it's pretty unreliable as an archive/record of stuff you want to remember/keep track of. I find that I want and need to go back through old stuff from time to time for various reasons. I can get to old stuff, but I have to do a manual search through individual folders.

Been experiencing the same issue where Yahoo search is not working for me when I KNOW the content is in there. Trying to plan a wedding without email search functionality is NOT fun or efficient. Any help you can offer with a "help hook up" to that new server would be greatly appreciated!!!
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Yahoo Mail Search does not work
drummerplusone 5th Sep 2009
My yahoo mail search function suddenly quit working today on my desk top. It never worked on my laptop, but I did not sweat it, since it was at least working on one of my computers, but now I am basically screwed. My email is useless if I can't find old emails, particularly since I am an insurance agent who strongly relies on finding old email communication utilizing the yahoo mail search function. Can anyone give me a contact name or number to call at the proper yahoo department handling these issues? Thanks!
I have had similar with Search Mail problems for two weeks and Yahoo has been absolutely no help. Search Mail works on three out of the four email accounts I have. Unfortunately it does not work on my main account.

I've also experienced a dramatic slowing of performace since Yahoo's introduction of a new classic mail interface.

Given Yahoo's utter incompetence and ability to resolve the Search Mail problems, I will switch to Gmail or a POP3 account and never trust Yahoo to offer consistent, reliable service again.
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Yahoo Mail Search is DEAD
kel_stevens@... 21st Sep 2009
Yahoo is dying. We see it everyday. I can not search any email and they shut off Tech Support. I pay $19.95 a year for a PRO account and they now tell me to screw off.

Good Bye Yahoo. I hope every employee is layed off and eat dirt in the streets.

losers.
Yahoo doesn't care, as long as you keep looking at
their ads (which always seem to work...) The words
"Yahoo" and "Support" never go together well, I'm
migrating all my emails to Gmail, which at least is
reliable, after using Yahoo for over 10 years. Whoever
the genius was who decided to fix it 'til it's broken
deserves a medal. And by medal, I mean a solid kick in
the pants.

I use yahoo classic, after trying to use the appalling
"new & improved" version... one is less a joke than
the other, but not by much...
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Yahoo Mail Search Not working
naren_vasi@... 29th Oct 2009
STILL YAHOO DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM. LOOKS LIKE YAHOO IS NOT CARING ITS LOYAL CUSTOMERS ANY MORE...
Larry,

Thanks for your zdnet article on this issue dated AUg21, 2009.

I have been without YAHOO mail search capabilities for 4+ months now. IT is unfortunate as I need this functionality for my job searches of previous contacts. The harm this is doing is significant.

I have messaged YAHOO tech at least 10 times over the past month and bascially they ar enot answering. It is surprising how unethical this is and that yahoo has not made a general statement on their website or thru an email. I thought I was the only one with this issue, but now I realize many others still have this problem.

I also thought it could be a YAHOO ploy to get you to upgrade and hence rake in $20 per client frustrated at waiting and getting no reponses to their messages.

SEEMS very suspicious and UNETHICAL to the max. Tempted to use a free POP3 program out there and download all my yahoo mails onto my machine and NEVER USE YAHOO again.

Frustrated for 4+ months now!

Denis
Yahoo search being down for so long is ridiculous; it is intolerable. Add my protest here. Maybe you could collect these replies and send them en mass to Yahoo.
Yahoo search being down for so long is ridiculous; it is intolerable. Add my protest here. Maybe you could collect these replies and send them en mass to Yahoo as a petition.
I have had he same problem on and off for months. There
seems to be no easy way to contact Yahoo tech support. I
have started copying all sent emails to my Gmail account
and am now forwarding all emails that I receive to my
gmail account so that I have a back up. I will migrate there
if this is not fixed.

Also, I find that the spell check feature does not work.
although it highlights the misspelled words, it won't
replace them. Does anyone else have this problem
Yahoo has become worse and worse. They're more interested in promoting crap like "Hugh Downs reports" than making their products work. Worse yet, they are completely inaccessible via tech support either by phone or email.
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I started having same yahoo mail search problems for the past 2 days. It just could never find any of my mail, even though it is just right there! Never had this problem before, same web browser, same computers, and yet yahoo mail search function just stopped working on every single of the computers that I am using!
I have two yahoo email accounts that I've been using for years (one for my personal mail, one that I use for ordering stuff online, registering for websites, etc.). Both of them have had the search function broken. They were fixed fairly quickly after contacting customer care, but it seems as if they knew this was a common problem. If this is so common, why did I have to waste my time filling out a help form at all? Why couldn't Yahoo just fix this for everyone without being contacted since they know this is a problem? I don't understand Yahoo as a company.
I don't think Yahoo is taking this very seriously. It really concerns me that they are so indifferent to their customers. Especially since I own shares. Maybe I should sell them.
I am having the same problem but don't even see a link on the yahoo page for making an actual query..just "comment"...about how great they are, I guess. Yuk. Really frustrating. Mail search always worked until three days ago. Does anyone have an actual LINK to a help desk/person/whatever?
still dead for me last 5 days...Yahoo Mail...time for us to divide the assets and split the 401k...I am gonna walk after 10yrs.
My suspicion is they CAN'T fix it. Somethings gone amiss in a DB cutover, migration, conversion whatever. Their indexes are lost and would take a small eternity to rebuild. That or some other performance problem. If it WAS a code issue then I'm sure it would have been fixed within a month.

EVERYONE MAKE THE CUT AND MAKE THE MOVE. Not necessarily to Google. I just wish there was a decent alternative to Google (do you really want to use your email provider as your primary search engine...).

Someone else mentioned in an earlier post using a POP account to suck down the emails. Think this is the way to go. Perhaps a step-by-step "how to" details could be posted here Larry....?

Good luck.
Here's my text:

Chris: It is already a system wide bug that is currently handled by our Engineering team.
ME: Correct - the engineering team can correct this on a mailbox by mailbox basis - so please have them correct this mailbox.
Chris: The bug is still open and still unresolved. I apologize but what we can do is to wait for the Engineering team to find a permanent resolution for this bug.
ME: But that makes little sense. You know how to fix it - in fact, I can tell you how, but you won't?
Chris: I'm sorry but we can't troubleshoot this issue since it is already a bug. We have to wait for the Engineering team to resolve this system wide.

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