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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Apple iPad 2 sales leave something to be desired: report

By | October 18, 2011, 6:47am PDT

Summary: Sales for Apple’s iPad 2 fell short of expectations, according to a new report. Did it come too soon?

You know what we haven’t seen recently? Any press releases from Cupertino touting sales figures for the iPad 2.

It’s something we’ve discussed in the office here at ZDNet HQ, merely as speculation. After all, if the iPad 2 did well, wouldn’t Apple be the first to tell us?

A new report from the not-always-reliable DigiTimes claims that Apple shipped 13 million iPad units in Q3 2011 — an impressive figure showing 36.8 percent growth, but one that “did not meet its forecast.”

The report blames a weakening global economy, though I’m not so sure that’s what’s at work here.

My thinking:

  • The product came too soon after the first, at nine months about a year. And the first was, of course, a landmark, segment-forming product.
  • The second version didn’t have a killer feature. Most memorable thing about the iPad? The magnetic cover accessory you had to buy extra.
  • The product didn’t get a lot of play. The original iPad got loads of TV time, but I don’t recall there being much for the iPad 2. Could just be my fuzzy memory, however.
  • The content isn’t quite there. My wife purchased an iPad because she’s an early adopter; until I can find all my magazine subscriptions in Newsstand, it’s merely a TV-watching accessory.

But a weakening global economy? I don’t bite on that. Record-setting iPhone 4S sales this weekend demonstrate that, given enough pent-up demand, a product can sell. (Which brings me back to my first bullet, above.)

It shouldn’t be a surprise that rival tablet manufacturers are having difficulty — aside from poor products, there’s not quite as much built-in demand for tablets as you might expect. Simply: the iPad alone hasn’t justified the market segment to the mainstream. We’re all aware of it, sure, but there’s a big valley between awareness and purchase.

Smartphones may be the most lucrative for consumer electronics makers but it’s clear that twice as much work will be required to get tablets into the home and enterprise. Given enough time, it will happen — but someone needs to lay that infrastructure.

Does the DigiTimes report hold water? We’ll find out after Apple’s earnings call this afternoon.

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What!? I thought this was the post-PC era?
Nihon8888 14th Nov
Or maybe not? So perhaps the MS approach of a standardised OS to cover all form actors that takes a little bit longer to be released is not so crazy? Certainly Win8, for good or bad, could be defining.
9 months? The first iPad was released on 4/3/10 and the iPad 2 was released on 3/11/11 which is just a few weeks shy of a year.
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I'm using announcement dates.
andrew.nusca 18th Oct
@jmiller1978 Once it's announced, it exists.
@andrew.nusca

Not in terms of sales Andrew. People need to be able to buy it, in order to buy it.

Anyway, we'll see what the facts are in about five and a half hours. Whether iPad 2 sales leave something to be desired, or DigiTimes' inside track.
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@andrew.nusca
a year or 2 ago people would happily buy both the iPhone and the iPad, and do so again 6-12 months later

With a tougher economy, people may have be tightening their belts and getting just 1 product, the iPhone as it's the more versital of the two
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@andrew.nusca
If you're using announcement dates then you're even more wrong. The iPad was announced 1/27/10 and the iPad 2 was announced 3/2/11 which is over 13 months! The only way I can see you coming up with 9 months is taking the iPads last international release date and iPad 2's announcement which just don't make much sense.
@jmiller1978

9 months, 11 months does the 2 months matter that much. People in general want their $500 plus investment to last more than a year.
@Turd Furgeson Who said anything about lasting less than a year. Just because a new iPad is available doesn't mean the original one no longer works. If that were the case how would all the Android fans feel that within a month of getting their new phone it no longer works because there is a new and improved model on the market.
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We All Have One
Hasam1991 18th Oct
Most people already have one, it would be nice to have more than one but these things are pricey at $500. I own 5 ipods, why because they costs less. For now, only 1 iPad, if the prices came down I would probably get another one.
@Hasam1991 you can buy Kindle Fire ...
Its just too devoid of hardware and as a buy content only deal-no thanks
@Hasam1991 Most people don't have them. It's far more likely that people who wanted one also wanted the new iPhone and couldn't afford to buy both at the same time. So, they delayed their iPad purchase to buy the iPhone first. In a few months, we'll see the iPad sales start to climb again. Every time I show my iPad 2 to somebody, the feature they love most is FaceTime. Immediately, they get excited that they could video chat with their kids, relatives, friends, etc. Then, they show others and those people want one. This growing word of mouth is what will drive sales. We haven't seen anything yet.
@BillDem
If after 2 years they still need word of mouth to move their product then its pretty much dead. Like 3 weekends after a new movie is released. Apple doesn't rely on word of mouth. They use their PR machine and branding.
@BillDem
funny, I've been doing video chatting for a good 3-4 years, I don't think there was a facetime then, find a better reason to throw away $500
@rengek Wrong, if it was simply about marketing and PR then all the sales would have happened in the first several weeks, just like with your movie example. Sales continue through the year as more people talk with owners and get to try it out. Haters are always clueless and claim it's the marketing but that only gets you so far and does not get you repeat customers. To get continued sales and repeat customers you have to provide a high level of satisfaction in the purchase which is something that Apple beats everyone at.
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Pet rock syndrome
A Gray 11th Nov
@BillDem Its a fad that will die away soon enough. Phones are useful, music players are good if you don't want to mix your phone with your music or you want one for your kid. The IPad is fine, but hardly useful. If I turn on my IPad once a week its a lot. I'm pretty much thinking I'll just craigs list it and use the profits to buy a light laptop. If you like $5 games, I guess the IPad is awesome, but I have no interest in game-play. I prefer to enjoy my time with my wife, kids and friends in person.
@Hasam1991
ummm there are more than 30 million people in the world. So its safe to say most people DON'T have one.
The tablet market isn't as robust as tech pundits have claimed. There is a great number of people who do not feel the need to buy a tablet.
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RE: Apple iPad 2 sales leave something to be desired: report
LoverockDavidson_-24231404894599612871915491754222 18th Oct
@hoaxoner
+1
@hoaxoner +1
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Agreed
tgschmidt 18th Oct
@hoaxoner I am a technogeek. I get the latest gadgets and use technology all day every day. But, I just do not see the need for a tablet, They are "cool" but I just do not think I would really use it much. I have a nice smartphone with a big screen and I have had a Kindle for 2 years. I just think a tablet would not get used for much. The Kindle Fire does look interesting and is the first tablet that I have seriously thought about. The price point has allot to do with it. Sub $200 is what it will take to get a big audience to look at tablets. To the mainstream non-technophile average person, they are seen as very expensive toys or gadgets. My 17 year old Son has a iPod touch & says the iPad just a big iPod Touch that he would not carry around with him, its too big and fragile.
I think that tablets are still luxury devices. It is not that you can't get real work done on a tablet. But they are just right in between a laptop and a smartphone. You "need" a smartphone and many people "need" a laptop to lug around. But I don't know many people who absolutely need a tablet to get work done.
Many have pointed out that it is just the iPad and not tablets that are in demand and I think it is completely true
@regsrini Of course nobody truly needs a tablet but at the same time nobody truly needs a smartphone either. At $500 I don't really consider them a luxury item but they are definitely above the purchase on a whim device and that has held back sales overall.
... forecasts.

So DigiTimes made up whole "forecast" thing.

iPad sales are expected to be between 10-13 million units in Q3, comparing to 9.3 million in Q2.

For full year, total sales will reach about 40 million, which is, ironically, the same figure that DigiTimes made up previously as supposed "plan" of which they actually have no idea (they made it up).

So actual iPad sales meet with their old "plan" for Apple, and DigiTimes now invents new "plan" nonsense about sales not meeting it.
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How do you know what Apple's plans are.
William Farrell 18th Oct
@DeRSSS
they almost never give esitmates - this lets them get away with missing expectations without looking bad for under performing. They just chime in with "better then we expected!".
@William Farrell: ... plans, this was the point of my post. Being tabloid, they made it up to generate clicks/page views for "OMG! iPad2 sales did not meet expectations".

This is so cheap; pathetic. Especially since actual sales live up to their previously made up "plan".
Lower than expected iPad sales might be do to one other Apple product- the MacBook Air.
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@kenosha7777 not even in the same price range for the moat part, the slumping sales are mostly because Apple has failed to answer the one question that many are asking and all the Apple fans have theirs (I don't mean Apple desktop fans I mean Apple iDevice fans).

People keep asking, what is this things purpose?
@Peter Perry So when comparing Apple products you have to dismiss items that are not in the same price category but when comparing Android phone sales you have to include the cheap crap phones that are not in the same category as the iPhone? Not that I think Air sales have really hit iPad sales but nice cherry picking.
I told you guys what was being preached was wrong! Watch, bargain hunters looking for used products and low priced Android Tablets will overwhelm these sales.
they announce them at their quarterly earnings calls. And, of course, only in the world of Apple is 38.6% growth considered disappointing. Sheesh.
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True
toddybottom 18th Oct
@baggins_z
And of course, only in the world of Microsoft is releasing an OS like Vista that outsells all of its competition's installed base in 5 weeks considered disappointing. Sheesh.
@toddybottom
Different story. Microsoft could stop shipping all versions of Windows and bring back Win 98 and it would still outsell competitors due it coming preinstalled with new computers. Plus they have the ecosystem advantage as there is much more software written for it. iPad is also starting to have of some of these advantages but obviously less so as it's only two years old.
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Apple owns 91% of the high end PC market. Since when do Macs ship with Windows?

Right. They don't. You are a liar.
@toddybottom

" Apple owns 91% of the high end PC market. "

LOL, that simply means Apple's products are overpriced compared to everyone else's. Think about it.
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They released one just yesterday
andrew.nusca 18th Oct
@baggins_z ...for the iPhone 4S.

I'm not saying that's the norm -- because you're right, there have been no press releases dedicated to iPad sales; the numbers come from earnings calls -- but if there's something to chest-thump about, you can be sure that Apple or any other company wouldn't let the opportunity go by.
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Yes but the iPhone 4s was a NEW product who's
James Quinn Updated - 18th Oct
@andrew.nusca ... initial release was greeted with a resounding Ho Hum by the pundits. Where the iPad has been around for a while even the iPad2 and over all the press had been consistently good. There likely was never seen the need to "prance" or chest beat in the case of the iPad because so far it's Apple's market where Android phones are a challenge on the phone side of things and like I said the initial announcement was greeted with less than excited yawns:)

Pagan jim
@andrew.nusca Wait a minute, when MS doesn't announce sales figures for WP7 it's just because they don't make those announcements but when Apple doesn't do it for iPad 2 quarters after it's release it's because they aren't selling well?
Having compared the iPad to Android rivals, what the iPad really needs is a screen resolution bump. 1280 x 800 may not seem like that much of a jump over 1024 x 768, but it really makes a difference when reading a web page, for instance.
13 million in sales is disappointing? I guess you don't have much to write about.
@johnsuarez10
If they were expecting and planning for 20 million, then yes 13 million would be a disappointment.
@Doctor Demento
If Apple's Q4 estimates are anything to go by then they've probably beat their expectations, but then again they are known to low ball estimates.
@anono
makes you wonder why Sprint agreed to such a ridiculous deal prior to Apple's earnings call...
@Doctor Demento Care to link to anything that shows Apple was planning on selling 20 million? You can find all kinds of stories back when the iPad was announced that it would be a complete flop because of the price but we all know how that turned out. Just goes to show that pundits make it up as they go along.
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How many timed have I seen this before?
James Quinn Updated - 18th Oct
If any of you have kept an eye on Apple over the years you've noticed Apple has this habit of keeping quiet when others are throwing out projections and yes rumors. Then comes the day and OMG! Just about every rumor is off and all the experts projections prove false. Shocking! Now I'm not saying when the actual information comes out it will prove this so called report wrong but based on past history I'm saying if I were a gambling man and I had some green to throw around I'd be throwing it at this report:)

Still in the end no one can run from the facts not an Apple fan like myself, nor Apple itself and the smart thing to do is to just wait for the actual facts and not some speculation by Some one or some organization whom in the end when all is said and done is guessing.

Pagan jim
@James Quinn

Wise advice. And, I "bet" you made the right call on this one.
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RE: Apple iPad 2 sales leave something to be desired: report
LoverockDavidson_-24231404894599612871915491754222 18th Oct
I was right, tablets are a passing fad. There isn't much of a tablet market when Apple can't sell them. For one thing they are way overpriced even though people were saying it was the right price point. For $500 you can get a fully functional laptop that does a lot more than a tablet. Bloggers was trying to boost these things like they were going to be huge and the next big thing. Alas we find out that its not true.
@LoverockDavidson_ ... Who knows you may be right but based on past rumors and or projections I'm guessing not. Still it does my old heart good to see Apple bring a MS fan like yourself across the battlefield to meet and shake hands with an Android fan like Peter:). I never thought I'd see the day when Apple could being such combatants together to embrace in agreement like this.... Sniff. Wait a minute guys that's not the friendship embrace I was talking about!!! Oh no ick! Stop that! Get a room!!! OMG Apple is evil!

Pagan jim
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RE: Apple iPad 2 sales leave something to be desired: report
LoverockDavidson_-24231404894599612871915491754222 18th Oct
@James Quinn
LOL, that last line was funny happy
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@LoverockDavidson_ Thought you'd like it:)

Pagan jim
@LoverockDavidson_
It's only a passing fad until MS comes out with Win8 for tablets then suddenly it's a hot new market? lol

Please, just because you don't want/need one and you don't like Apple, doesnt meant it's not a new market segment for many many people...
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Or maybe not? So perhaps the MS approach of a standardised OS to cover all form actors that takes a little bit longer to be released is not so crazy? Certainly Win8, for good or bad, could be defining.

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