Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

Summary: "I don't see an advantage of putting our own music app on Android, except to make Android users happy," said Jobs.

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Steve Jobs thought about putting iTunes on Android much like Apple did for Microsoft's Windows platform, but the move didn't make sense. Why? Jobs didn't want to "make Android users happy."

Walter Isaacson's biography of Steve Jobs contains a lot of Android references. Jobs blew up when Google decided to launch Android and panned the search giant every time he could. The Apple-Android duel has led to a bevy of lawsuits. Ultimately, Jobs viewed Android as a "stolen product."

Jobs felt the same way about Microsoft Windows in some respects, but hell can freeze over when hardware sales are at stake.

In the biography, Isaacson quotes Jobs:

"We thought about whether we should do a music client for Android. We put iTunes on Windows in order to sell more iPods. But I don't see an advantage of putting our own music app on Android, except to make Android users happy. And I don't want to make Android users happy."

Jobs' calculus works out based on real dollars. Apple makes out nicely on iTunes, but the service's real benefit is to sell hardware---lots of it.

Topics: IT Employment, Android, Apple, Google, Hardware, Mobility, Operating Systems, Software, Windows

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  • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

    Amazon thanks him for that!
    slickjim
    • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

      @Peter Perry
      Amazon is much more limited than Google. They're a book seller who goes farrrr beyond just selling books. Even their newest ebook tablet has an operating system which they didn't develop.

      As for Jobs remarks. I totally understand his sentiments.
      I never owned a Microsoft product until they copied Apple. It was only at that point that they offered something I could use.
      Android?? The only reason I like it is because it's also a knock-off of an Apple product. Both Android and Windows are good, decent products because Apple paved the way for them. Without Apple, we would all be entering gawd-awful DOS prompts and using cellphones with a Blackberry interface (at best).
      Hmmm. I can think of several other OS which have come and gone who also owed a great deal to Apple's way of thinking.
      camcost
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @camcost@... How many times do we have to say that Apple didn't come up with the desktop GUI or pointing device concepts. It was Xerox who combined both of those things together on their own computer first. Jobs stole that idea/concept from Xerox. They stole it, maybe not in the legal sense according to the courts, but they did in terms of design. If Jobs would have never seen the Xerox demo and subsequently hired away some of their top people, there would have never been a Macintosh.
        mrxxxman
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @camcost@... I think everyone understands his feelings and might feel the same in his situation. On the other hand, taking action based on those feelings is riding the line of anti-competitiveness. You've got 98% of the market and are excluding a player in another of your markets because they are a competitor? Eesh.
        daengbo
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @mrxxxman
        And how many times does it have to be pointed out to you that you are wrong, and don't know what you are talking about, before you stop regurgitating these stupid internet memes, and trying pass them off as original, insightful information?
        Please list what you think Apple stole from XEROX (keeping in mind that they gave XEROX $150M in Apple \sStock, and hired many of the original researchers) and how they copied XEROX (keeping in mind that I was one of the original users of the XEROX Alto, the system in question, and know enough about the system to know that you speak from total ignorance.
        .DeusExMachina.
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @daengbo<br>Um, news flash, there is absolutely nothing anti-competitive about not supporting a rival's platform.
        .DeusExMachina.
  • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

    Thank you Steve Jobs! No iTunes on my android phone - definetely makes me happy. And maybe if instead of hating you would do more inovating - iPhone would still be on the first place...
    corwin1681
    • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

      @corwin1681 <br>iPhone not in first place? Perhaps iOS phones are not in first place compared to Android phones.<br><br>4 million iPhone 4S sales in 3 days - and that is only the start. You're welcome to suggest any, single Android phone or WP7 phone that has similar sales. But as you know, it takes the combined sales of many, many Android phones to outdo one, single iPhone. That would seem to be first place to me :-)
      Wakemewhentrollsgone
      • That's because there is no monopoly on Android hardware

        @Habiloso

        These two products have two different marketing mechanisms. Apple gives you a choice of hardware manufactured by itself only. iPhone is a good product, so no surprise at its sales.

        But with Android, it doesn't matter what company is building what; as long as you want an Android phone you can choose from any. It's not the banding of mobile phone manufacturers that lifted Android to first place, but consumers' preference for Android, no matter what the hardware. If there was only one company authorized to build an Android phone then that company would've been the number one bestseller. Sure it may drive the hardware companies to compete with themselves, but then again that's a good thing.
        JOB83
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @JOB83
        In some respects, I agree with what you say. It is fairly obvious. Nonetheless, you forget that Google marketed its own phone. I baulk at using the word failure, but it was certainly not a success. Google is about to market its second phone. Do you really think that it will sell better than an iPhone? Time will tell :-)
        Wakemewhentrollsgone
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @Habiloso the hoards of people buying android are buying it because it's cheap.. most people don't even know what android is.. all they know is they can get a phone that the salesman told them is just like an iPhone for $0 on contract.. they do the math.. get a crappy feature phone or an "iPhone like phone" for same price.. they get the android phone of course.. but most are not even interested in using 99% of the features of a smartphone.. this is why android users in general (not talking about people on tech blogs) don't buy or pay for apps, barely surf the web on their phone etc.. they just got a smartphone because it was the same $0 as the feature phone they would have gotten.. now that Apple has $0 & $99 iPhones and is on pretty much every carriers.. let's see how this goes.. if recent sales numbers since iPhone 4S is any indication.. this quarter is going to be a complete blow out for iPhone sales..
        doctorSpoc
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @JOB83
        the only reason the original Nexus phone 'failed' is because americans want subsidized phones which this was not. American carriers also do not allow you to walk in with your own phone and tell them to activate. If you want 1 piece of hardware with little to no selection Apple is for you.
        I can get anywhere from a 3.3" screen to 4.7" now with several choices inbetween. single core, dual core, 5mp/8mp front camera/rear camera etc. If there was only one android and 1 iphone i can't honestly say who would be the top dog.
        REDPINXC
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @Habiloso

        nonsense, it was not 3 days. it was 3 days and weeks of pre orders.
        evilcartman
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @Habiloso
        I like what you said. Just watch the argument deteriorate down to one Apple hater posting, "To each his own." The great cop out. The old standby.
        Galidari
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @doctorSpoc
        Do you have any evidence to back up your claims at all or is just more of the same old talking points Fanbois use to make up for the fact that the iPhone is losing market share to Android?
        businessandpolitics
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @REDPINXC "the only reason the original Nexus phone 'failed' is because americans want subsidized phones which this was not."
        Ummmmm... neither was/is the iPhone (subsidized). Especially in the beginning, if you wanted an iPhone you paid full price (which was right around the same pricepoint as the Nexus, and the G1 before that). So that argument doesn't hold water.

        I'm not arguing with the spirit of your post, but you certainly can't state that the "only reason" Google's product failed is because it wasn't subsidized, when the iPhone faced the same circumstance and succeeded (wildly).
        csteinola
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @Habiloso That's because Apple makes only one phone that its sales are that way. It still is not number one when compared Android to Apple.
        RobertMoore12
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @businessandpolitics
        Um, iOS is in no way shape or form losing market share to Android. Care to back THAT assertion up? And not with total sales numbers, but rather numbers that actually address your contention. And while you're at it, please make a list of global carriers what have carried both the iPhone and Android phones for a considerable length of time where iPhones do not outsell all Android devices combined. (Hint: there aren't any.) The reason Android has the numbers it does is NOT because it is more popular, it is because it is available on far more carriers. Period.
        .DeusExMachina.
      • RE: Apple's Jobs on Android iTunes service: 'I don't want to make Android users happy'

        @RobertMoore12
        Um, yes, it is.
        .DeusExMachina.
    • iPhone still is on the first place

      @corwin1681
      DDERSSS