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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Apple's push into subscription TV: Why it will be a tough sell

By | December 22, 2009, 2:30am PST

Summary: As Apple reportedly inches its way into the TV business, there are some warning signs that the road into that new business could be a rocky one.

The Wall Street Journal reported late Monday that Apple is in talks with CBS Corp. and Disney to offer television programming using a subscription model but suggested that the venture could face a pretty steep uphill battle.

There’s an understatement for you.

Sure, Apple has been incredibly successful with iTunes, which now includes music, movies, TV, games and apps. For those who remember the early days of iTunes, the content catalogs were pretty thin as record labels - and later TV and movie studios - resisted the iTunes way. Apple has a reputation of cut-throat “our way or the highway” terms with its partners, which is believed to be one of the reasons that the iPhone is on AT&T and not on Verizon. But as the iPod exploded and dominated the portable music player market, it almost seemed to be bad business to not play ball with Apple.

But this time, for as much as things are similar to the early days of iTunes, things are also very different. Consider the following:

Hollywood has become more tech savvy: Hollywood was still technologically immature when Napster first hit the scene a decade ago and threatened the long-standing business model of the record labels. The digital revolution has since spread to the movie and TV studios and while Hollywood is still struggling with the influences of digital media and the Internet as a distribution platform, the entertainment industry has actually become a bit more receptive to Web. It’s experimenting with different ways of pushing content. It’s also toying with different models for monetizing that content through pop-up ads, sponsorships and limited commercial interruptions, as well as pay-per-episode options such as those offered through iTunes.

iTunes largely still uses a Pay-Per-View model: Yes, there’s already a relationship between the networks and Apple but changing the terms with a company that has a reputation of playing hardball and subscribing to the “our way or the highway” negotiating model could get sticky, just as it did in the early days. After all, television programming remains a complex web of relationships between studios, networks, distributors, cable companies and others. Slicing the revenue pie of a TV show can be tougher when it’s part of a monthly subscription.

It’s the content, not the network: Viewers don’t watch based on networks, they watch based on content. And quite frankly, they don’t care if a show is part of A&E, TNT, ABC or MTV. They just want to watch on their terms. That means the networks will have to step up their games, as well, if they want to maintain their value in a YouTube world where amateur content for the Web has the opportunity to gain as much of a following - and maybe even a bigger one - than a big money Hollywood production. Instead of worrying about getting the niche networks online, perhaps the focus should be on online promotion of the niche program itself.

But don’t underestimate the network: Big television has been playing hardball for years with the cable and satellite companies over distribution of all of their programming, not just the popular stuff. Viacom, for example, owns Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central, VH1, BET and LOGO, among others. When Viacom negotiates with DirecTV or Comcast or others, it surely wants a full lineup of its networks on the cable channel lineup, not just Comedy Central or MTV. The same might be said for a place on the iTunes lineup, as well. The cable guys have a finite amount of space on their lineups and have resisted carrying some channels - and that’s led to some threats to pull programming in the past. The Internet gives the networks new options.

Limited subscriptions offer limited value: The beauty of a pay-per-episode model is that users can weigh the benefits of the purchase on an individual basis. For example, if there’s a single episode of my favorite show that I missed - and can’t find anywhere else on the Internet (which is also a longshot), then $2.99 for a download of it from iTunes is worth it. Am I willing to pay $20 or $30 per month for access to a limited number of shows from a limited number of networks when those same episodes might be available elsewhere on the Web for free - or for the cost of watching a few 15-second commercials. An excerpt from the WSJ story:

In at least some versions of the proposal, Apple would pay media companies about $2 to $4 a month per subscriber for a broadcast network like CBS or ABC, and about $1 to $2 a month per subscriber for a basic-cable network, people familiar with the proposals said. Those amounts are in some cases much higher than media companies receive from traditional distributors. The question is whether selling fewer networks at higher prices is better business.

All of this isn’t to say that Apple can’t come in and revolutionize the TV industry the way it’s forever altered the music business. The Journal story cites sources who say that Apple is trying to complete licensing deals and hopes to introduce the service in 2010. The Journal did not confirm that it had signed any deals with any networks yet - and those it contacted declined comment.

Also see: iTunes TV subscriptions: Sure, it could happen - and probably will

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Sports....
Larry Dignan 22nd Dec 2009
The one issue here for me is sports---unless I can get live sports coverage on iTunes this is a non-starter for me. Ditto for news. In the end, that's what I get cable (actually FiOS for). When I do wrestle the TV away from the kiddiepoos it's sports. There may be two actual "shows" that I watch...Sons of Anarchy and Smallville (yeah I'm a dork). If I can subscribe to whoever has the NFL and that's it I'd do it and cut out the rest.
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Bingo.
Sleeper Service 22nd Dec 2009
Single biggest reason for me having cable. No sports, no deal.

Oh and good luck going up against Virgin or Sky in the UK. No, really.
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Yep, there with you...
pairof9s Updated - 22nd Dec 2009
Sports is exactly the reason I still have cable, if only at the basic
level. Everything else I can get on the internet, either as video or web
pages, including the news (remember when that only came at dinner
time?).

But sports is the one thing that must, by & large, be viewed live. Who
wants to see the Super Bowl or the World Cup finals 2 or 3 days
later...without knowing who won?!!

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I don't even think that's possible
John Zern Updated - 22nd Dec 2009
Who wants to see the Super Bowl or the World Cup finals 2 or 3 days
later...without knowing who won?


That's not even humanly possible unless you where marooned on an island.

Though my guess is the recuers would tell you the good news when they picked you up anyhow... happy
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sports II
theo_durcan 22nd Dec 2009
For a football fan the cable is a limiting option; wathever you want to watch Real Madrid or Bayern Munich cable give you a very limiting bracket of choices: some obscure redneck tournament, poker (yes, poker...) the usual american sport (beisbol, american football), or trucks colliding & others folk events.

Anyhow, I prefer sports on internet, dont pay nothing, watch what you want. Seems to me an unbeatable & winning formula.
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Out of Market Sports too
ruprick_z 22nd Dec 2009
I have a big DirecTV install so I can watch out of market NFL Football -
and I pay hundreds to do that on TOP of the hundreds (thousands?) a
year I pay them for the regular content, DVR fee, HD fee, additional
receiver fee's, etc...

If the NFL were to figure out how to stream SundayTicket over the
internet in HD I'd buy that in an instant...
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Someone needs to revolutionize TV... and fast.
NetworkBankAdmin 22nd Dec 2009
I recently dropped my cable provider because they just increased the cost of the same content AGAIN.

The only channels I watch are network channels, ESPN, and Showtime (for Dexter).

I have found that by just using Hulu and Amazon VoD I'm able to watch my favorite network TV shows, and buy my premium shows ala carte for way less money. If I was a thief, I'm sure I can go on any torrent site and find my shows there as well.

The TV giants need to realize they have to move to digital media quickly. Consumers are tired of paying a monthly fee for 95% crap. I want a service that let's me pay for the TV i want; (NFL football, network television & a few premium cable shows) for less than $100 / month.
Subscription TV has been around for decades, and PPV and on-demand viewing is a standard offering of the cable systems, satellite, and now digital systems like FIOS and Uverse. Apple has no delivery mechanism of their own (you need broadband to use their service) and then they want to charge you even more than what premium cable services cost.

Non-starter, not even their vaunted marketing machine has a chance on this one.
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Still...
pairof9s Updated - 22nd Dec 2009
Apple or no Apple, there obviously is a problem with subscription TV,
PPV and on-demand. It still doesn't allow you to select exactly what you
want when you want. It's all based on the mantra of "Here is what we're
going to offer you."

The Holy Grail is to have all the content in a single location for us to
select what we wish to watch and/or keep, either by purchase or
subscription. That's why the likes of Hulu are exploding.

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Is MS business model. Thats why they are so strong proponents of anything rental. Pay us a monthly fee, we will keep improving our OS, we know, we know, it can be improved, TRUST ME.
Problem is internet & Google brought the era of here is what you want. Different paradigm. Stopped buying newspapers years ago, buying CD's & unplugged the cable. For a person with a wide range of interests, this is the way to go, not the canned way of media conglomerates, selling you their proprietary content for monthly plans.
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Only MS?
lehnerus2000 27th Dec 2009
Why is it that hordes of companies (including Google) are touting "The Cloud"?

You know, "You don't need applications on your PC. Rent them from us for $50/month."

lehnerus2000
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eldernorm 23rd Dec 2009
Yep, and the iPod will never sell, and who would ever buy a cell phone
from Apple, and Macs are dying, they will be crushed by the netbooks.

I just keep on laughing and laughing. Apple made more money (profit)
than any other cell phone maker. With just a small portion of the sales.

It just keeps on getting better and better. happy

Just a thought,
en
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Count Me In
yobtaf 22nd Dec 2009
I'll be the first to sign up.
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Count ME out.
IT_Guy_z 22nd Dec 2009
Not a snowballs chance in hell I'd ever pay for this. Not with Stevie Boy calling the shots on programming.
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Count me Out
Carl S 22nd Dec 2009
There's no way I'm paying $3 a show. 20 shows that's $60. That's a cable bill. I easily watch more than that in a month (that's less than 1 show a day). Then on top of that, you still need to buy their set top box. Why would I pay more for Apple TV than I do cable? I setup my TIVO to record the shows and watch them whenever I want, so convenience isn't a reason. Price isn't a reason. I get HDTV, so quality isn't a reason. I'm stumped. Hulu has a much better solution. It has fewer commercials, it has shows that haven't been on in years, and it's free.
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Not that much
wcecsharp@... 22nd Dec 2009
You have to keep in mind that, although it's $3 a show, you can buy the entire season for cheaper than that, or a season pass which lets you download the episode once it's aired for the same. It still isn't cheap, but at least it lets you carry the shows on, say, your iPod and watch them on the go.
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Not so much there either
jahcriado Updated - 22nd Dec 2009
Or, I could get a cable subscription use a real computer (aka, NOT an apple) & record the show from broadcast/cable & then pare down to ipod/Zune size. Or hey, dl the episodes off the net like I wind up doing. I literally watch about a dozen shows, do you know how much that would cost me in iTunes world? I can't believe people pay $2.99 rentals on iTunes when redbox is $1, blockbuster/movie gallery etc are /=$3 for 3-7 days & netflix can be had for about $8 month unlimited 2 @ a time disk's & unlimited streaming. I don't understand the hold Apple has on a lot of these rubes out there, even seemingly intelligent ones.
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Sounds like a bit of work
oncall 22nd Dec 2009
"Or, I could get a cable subscription use a real computer (aka, NOT an apple) & record the show from broadcast/cable & then pare down to ipod/Zune size."

Time vs. money.
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Not really
jahcriado 22nd Dec 2009
If you can operate a DVR, pretty much the same thing with about 1 or 2 more steps. & it saves a lot of money.
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Well I have done so
oncall 22nd Dec 2009
With other media, trying to transfer episodes of old TV shows to digital content then to iTunes. I admit it is not hard, nor does it take a large amount of time (what precious little I have to myself these days) But then I noticed an entire season of Star Trek DS9 (one of my all time favs) for sale on iTunes for $12.99. Now to me that's dirt cheap and I actually own the entire DVD collection. I could have spent a few hours, maybe, trying to rip the season to iTunes, it simply was not worth my time so I bought it.

But again, as I said, my time is precious, I am not in the Hulu demographics, well sort of, I'm middle aged and male, but I have kids and my income is on the high scale. Back when I was, ummm, younger and poorer (and single) I would have probably felt put out paying twice for a TV episode or movie. $1.99 for an episode of what I actually want to watch, and will watch, doesn't phase me in the least any more, your mileage may vary wink


Time vs money.
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Nothing that Apple sells is a good value.
mjolnar@... 22nd Dec 2009
I have a 4GB MP3 player, it holds several hundred hours of college lectures. A friend of mine wanted to listen to them while he works out, so I brought my MP3 player over to his place. He had just gotten an IPod Nano. After several hours trying to get everything set up, I managed to load most of them on his new Nano. It wouldn't hold all of them, because it had to change them to IPod format.

My MP3 player is a Scandisc Sansa Fuse, which cost me just over $50. He paid almost 3 times as much and can't do anything I can't do. I can store more mp3s than he can, my videos take up less room, and I get more battery life than he does. Also, I had made copies of old albums, which I downloaded and converted to digital on my computer. Try loading them on an IPod.
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oncall Updated - 22nd Dec 2009
It'll all come down to specifics: price and content. Your pricing is kinda "worst case scenario" based upon ownership, not subscription pricing. Now if Apple charges a few dollars to have ones favorite series episodes spooled onto ones computer or Apple TV in the background, commercial free and ready for viewing at the same time or even before it goes live on cable, yeah I can see a potential market for that. People will pay for that convenience. Maybe not people who visit ZDNET, the computer savvy elite who already have their comps plugged into their home entertainment centers. But rather for average Joe who might be tired of forking over $40+/mo for 98 channels of crap and only 2 that he/she actually watches on a regular basis.

Hulu has its demographics: male, middle aged, no kids, lower income scale, etc. I cannot speak for others, but I can say my wife would probably divorce me before she let me make Hulu a TV staple at our house wink
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I watch much less
voska1 22nd Dec 2009
That wouldn't be problem for me. I don't watch many shows. I think there is 5 shows that actually watch at the moment. So that's 5 show times 20 episodes for 100 show at $300 a year. I pay $888 a year for cable at $74 a month. This would be a huge savings for me even if I add in my wife's shows that she watches which is another 5 with one crossover so only 9 a year.

I've actually considered ditching cable and just buying box set of show I like. Only problem is that doesn't work for show's like the Amazing Race or Survior that my wife loves. So I can't convince here to ditch cable yet but something like this she'd go for.
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Wife acceptance factor
oncall Updated - 22nd Dec 2009
Is not to be underestimated. When I see people say "I cut the cable and watch all I need using Hulu via a PC connected to my big screen TV" I am thinking to myself "He is either single, divorced or damn lucky" happy

P.S. I am sorry if that is deemed a "sexist" remark, just personal observation.
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Broadcast
yonian 22nd Dec 2009
Amazing Race and Survivor are free over the air nearly everywhere in the U.S.
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I'm paying upwards of $100/mo for cable and receiving about two hundred channels I couldn't care less about in order to get the half dozen I do ... and I really only watch a few shows on those channels. The Tivo has really nuked the "watch a network" viewing style.

I would rather pay a-la-carte, it would be a lot less expensive! Let's say $2 a show, two shows a night ... that's 40% less than I pay for cable now and the shows I actually care about might get a bigger slice of the pie.

Hula would be appealing if only it played well with the big TV. Maybe someday I'll hook a general-purpose computer up to it, but that day isn't here yet.

The other thing that a company like Apple might be able to provide is access to foreign content. I would pay dearly to be able to get some foreign sports content (like WRC, or the BBC broadcasts of MotoGP, the former not carried at all in the US and the latter so poorly produced as to make me want to cry). As it is now I end up downloading it via BitTorrent (when I can find it at all). I'd rather pay them for it. I'd rather not pay SpeedTV for a lousy production.

I foresee the end of the Tivo as CableCard gets crushed, and I would do almost anything to avoid going back to cheeseball cable company set-top boxes. If Apple can offer a better alternative then more power to them.

jim frost
jimf@frostbytes.com
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PlayON Media Server
NetworkBankAdmin 22nd Dec 2009
Hey Jim,

If you have a Nintendo Wii, PS3,Xbox 360,or other DLNA network device on your home network... take a look at this software.

www.playon.tv/playon

I use it at home and it allows me to stream Hulu, Amazon VoD, ESPN (web vids), Cnn (web) and various other services straight to my big screen TV.

It's the best $40 I've ever spent and I dropped my $100 / month cable.

NO I am not an affiliate of the company, just a very happy end-user.
Cable TV isn't likely to change because most people
are still willing to pay through the nose for it-
regardless of the content and quality. Everyone
complains about cable prices, but how many can live
without their favorite TV show or sports game?
Nobody is voting with their wallet, so cable
companies have no pressure to change anything.
The only way things will change is if there is a
real, viable alternative. I applaud Apple or
anyone else who opens up the market enough to
draw enough money out of cable TV to force Cable
companies to be more competitive.
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Sooooo... Apple is now going to "invent" pay TV.
Hallowed are the Ori 22nd Dec 2009
No sale.
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Wireless providers?
tgarner 22nd Dec 2009
OK, okay I know they can't even handle the bandwidth they have now
but what if Apple were to work a deal with Verizon and AT&T to
provide programing through their networks?

Al a Carte of course is the key. If you were only buying the shows you
wanted the bandwidth would still be a problem but not nearly as
much so.

If you had a regular subscription to a show it could be downloaded to
your AppleTV, iTunes, etc during low demand times just like setting
your DVR.

Like most others have said I'm paying way too much for wasted
channels I don't care for, or watch.

(Some of you might remember the day when you could special order a
car with the features you wanted.)
There's an application you can install on your computer that lets you stream Hulu, CBS, and other sites to your Playstation, Xbox 360, Wii and a few other devices, which then allows you to watch on your big screen TV. Most of the shows look like standard definition TV. www.playon.tv. I think it's a 15 day trial period, and about $40 if you like it. I love it.
If music labels wants access to consumers, they are forced to go through Apple since they have a huge marketshare with the ipod and iphone. However, it is a different story with TV. Why do networks need to go through Apple? If I want to watch my shows, I can easily go to NBC.com, Hulu.com, Netflix.com, or any number of other sites. There is no compelling reason for networks to sign an exclusive deal with Apple. If they sign any deal, it would not be exclusive.
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Reruns
cwallen19803@... 22nd Dec 2009
Your example of pay-per-view is a good one, but keep in mind that all TV goes to reruns during the regular season and over the summer.

There is an good chance you'll be able to see that episode for free. Just like the old days before computers.
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This is a non starter....
omdguy 22nd Dec 2009
So Apple being Apple think that they can re-invent services already being offered by every major network as well as Hulu and others by locking you into using their hardware and paying them to distribute content that is already available from the aforementioned sources? I'm sure the Apple sheep will line up at midnight to buy this because it is coming from Apple, but those who prefer to think about their purchases have to ask what exactly is Apple offering here?

Most popular TV episodes can be seen at the network's site or Hulu for free, and if you wanted re-runs, it would be cheaper to buy them on DVD instead of paying $3 per show. Also add that there is a bandwidth requirement here to make this experience tolerable (trust me, I just moved from DSL to cable and know this all to well :-))

Pat
Advantage would be that if it were subscription based, they'd have to come up with better programs than the crap that's on now.

Couldn't see anyone paying per episode for a lot of the garbage that's on.

I don't watch TV anyway, re-arranged the furniture last year. 8 months later my girlfriend wanted to watch a program, that's when I realized there were no outlets around the TV.

Ken.
Unless my math is incorrect: $2 per show, two shows a night for 30 days a month is $120 per month. Not a bargain in any way.
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Not a Tough Sell...A No Brainer
CowLauncher 22nd Dec 2009
Sam, I'm sorry you have no imagination. For Apple households this is an obvious step. All
my Apple devices, TV, Home Computers, iPhone, iPod Touch, Work Computer are already
synced to some extent through MobileMe and iTunes.

Apple's recent acquisition of LaLa suggests that all of our media would be available to any
of these devices anywhere, anytime, including al la carte TV programming without having to
move stuff around from device to device. Isn't Apple building a massive data center
somewhere? Geez, I'm not even a journalist and I can at least imagine what 2+2 might be.

Your problem could be that you think Apple's primary goal is to gain market share and
make lots of money like other companies we know. Apple doesn't care about share or
making money beyond what it needs to happily exist...just like most of us. Apple is creating
new markets so it is a mistake to try and fit them into the existing ones.

So maybe try to write about something interesting rather than a future that you can't
envision. I say this because your headline sounds pretty sure of it's self.
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You don't REALLY believe that do you?
Hallowed are the Ori 22nd Dec 2009
Apple doesn't care about share or making money beyond what it needs to happily exist...just like most of us.

Come on... You don't really believe that, do you?
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oncall 22nd Dec 2009
I found that line a little, ummm, doubtful. However, the rest of it, especially the "lack of imagination" part was spot-on. Some of these discussions, reminds me of old men. Every new idea thrown out there is followed by blogs and discussions about how it "Won't work", "can't work", "shouldn't work" and even if it might work "it'll be overpriced" and besides "someone would have done it already".
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Your primary problem...
jahcriado 22nd Dec 2009
Is that you're in a Mac household & are used to paying too much for what many of us can do for free/cheap. Its not like the beginning of the itunes era where the ability to legally buy one mp3 song was a pretty new idea (I don't credit Apple with it, I believe there were other services @ the time), this is TV. Most people don't want ONE show of a season of CSI, they want the whole thing. Many of us already know of a handful of internet sites to watch it streaming. Many use torrents to DL it the day after in HD. & for those of us who buy the season on DVD (usually for much cheaper than iTunes sells it for) we wonder about all the special features you don't get with this package. I guess if you have to have an episode to work on your locked in device, & don't mind paying the tax, this is an ok idea. But for content & value... I'll go somewhere else. Have fun with your so called "innovation".
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Why is that a problem?
oncall 22nd Dec 2009
"Is that you're in a Mac household & are used to paying too much for what many of us can do for free/cheap."

Why is it a problem to pay for what is of convenience to you? After all many of us buy cable TV when we could probably do OK with an antenna and digital converted box, buy a new car when used would suffice, etc. I suppose going to the movies is downright highway robbery when all one has to do is wait a year or two for a good movie to hit regular TV.

Are you making a value judgement that just because someone pays for what you could obtain for free that they are somehow lessened?
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to attract anyone to attack a computer system that 'just works'

geeks and nerds need not apply..so a ZDnet forum in that context is
just a tennis match of comments back and forth.

neglected in the discussions so far, though torrent downloads are
mentioned as 'cheaper'...they are illegal!!
it is piracy and stealing...attractive to RN nerds..but not for most
>90% households.

certainly something the movie companiues would like to legalise and
more importantly monetise

the whole DRM issue with music has exposed that people will still pay
and not pirate.

maybe it time for movies, serials and special event live to air
iView(australia) provides free re-play of every program broadcast at no
cost, several ISP do not charge to download either..

the combination AppleTV (or macmini for internet) with live HD and
subscriptions would be a winner
Might as well jump into that and fire all the people they
have in tech support. The only thing they're concerned
with is whether or not the Apple shirt they have on
matches the rest of their clothes anyhow. Come to think
of it, can everybody in Quality Control at the same time.
They shouldn't have a problem getting unemployment
since they're blind.
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Look as far as I'm concerned nobody has it right yet, there's hope Apple will get it right.
Viewing of broadcast video today boils down to two types of viewers, those who can operate a DVR (aka Tivo) and those who can't. Those that can not or will not learn to operate a DVR will consume broadcast shows at the broadcasters schedule for the rest of their lives, I'm not trying to put them down, it's just reality, DVR ignorance is bliss and the bliss of schuduling your life around the broadcasters schedule will continue.
Those who know how to operate a DVR will quickly adopt a model where some device will gather the shows the user is interested in. Today's DVR users are somewhat put off by the continuous fussing with timers, recording priority and limited storage space in today's DVR, I suspect Apple could make great strides resolving this fustration and provide DVR Bliss which is a device filled with video and shows they want to watch. Should someone (read that as social network) or service recommend and gather shows for the interest of the user that would be a service worth paying for or at least sign up with.
Quality is important, 720p will now be the new "low end", netflix is doing a debatable "o.k." job delivering movies but any service aka AppleTV? which can que up delivery of 1080p movies will win.
The reality today is we are already paying for subscription television, I'm a Dish Network customer with a Vip 622 DVR, I almost NEVER watch live TV with the exception of News channels, which some service needs to address, that is liveTV over IP, could the wizards at Apple fill this niche too?
For those Dish Vip 622 DVR fan boys, the Dishonline download service is a freaking disaster in a User Interface, a huge long list and expensive, nobody pays $6.99 for a movie, when redbox has them for a $1, maybe $3.99 and better user interface & 1080p
I'd be willing to dump my Dish Network for a AppleTV subscription which delivers all the shows I currently record, so let Apple bully the networks, I'd be glad to pay them the $76.64 a month I pay to record what Dish to transmit shows to me now.
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One problem with using a DVR...
lehnerus2000 Updated - 27th Dec 2009
One problem with using a DVR, is that the networks insist on publishing false data about their programming schedules.

Here in Australia (I assume it is the same elsewhere) the networks say that a show is going to start at a certain time and the programs often start 5-10 minutes later. Depending on how much space I have on my HDD, I usually set my timer to start 10 minutes before and finish 10 minutes after the advertised times.

Cable is generally more accurate than Free-to-Air (with their schedules) but they aren't perfect either.

lehnerus2000
Isn't competition what its all about. I'M waiting for tha local networks to jump in and provide their owned content free to air and leave all the tv and internet providers up a creek. Digital free to air in most areas is as good as cable,fios
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People keep forgetting
eldernorm 23rd Dec 2009
If you want an all-you-can-eat buffet, then get free tv.

If you are a busy person who can only watch 2-3 shows a
month, rental is much better and cheaper.

For the average joe, free but bland is the best.
For the business may or teacher, etc, choice is better. And
you can start and stop netflix any month you want.

No one solution answers ALL PEOPLES desires. Get over it.
Pick the one you want and get over it.

Just a thought,
en
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