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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

BlackBerry Playbook: I'll believe it when I see it

By | September 30, 2010, 12:53pm PDT

Summary: The BlackBerry Playbook is being touted as the big rival to the iPad but has anyone actually seen it in action?

On the day that Research in Motion unveiled the BlackBerry Playbook, a 7-inch tablet PC that is being touted as an iPad rival, Larry Dignan and I had an interesting back-and-forth conversation later in the day about the actual device itself.

At one point, one of us suggested that the news itself was very Microsoft-like: bring it up on stage, show cool videos about what it will do and then say that it’s coming soon, a time in the not-too-far, but just-far-enough distance for customers to pause before buying the competitor’s product.

That’s when it all started to make sense. Co-CEO Mike Lazaridis brought a Playbook on stage but he didn’t take a seat in a leather chair and start playing with it the way Steve Jobs did when he introduced the iPad.

And then there was that video, the one that was played before Lazaridis actually announced it. Not once, did it actually show the tablet in use. It was a nice video and showed some cool stuff - it just didn’t show the device doing it. In fact, the video didn’t show the device at all - until the last 20 seconds or so. And for most of that time, it didn’t show anything on the screen either. Play the clip and be your own judge.

Even the demos after the event itself didn’t offer a “hands-on” run-through. The crackberry.com blog posted a video of its hands-on, which was more of a hands-on-the-glass that it was locked behind. Ah, special effects and modern video technology. It can make us believe anything.

I know. Crazy theory, right? But now there are others out there who are also thinking it. Student/blogger Justice Conder posted an entry yesterday titled “The BlackBerry Playbook doesn’t exist” - and it’s starting to make the rounds on Twitter, as it should. The entry is a good one, complete with four videos that go to the heart of proving his point and he makes a very convincing argument.

I hate to keep making the comparison to Apple but it really becomes important to do. With Apple, you see the product, you touch the product and even when you can’t actually buy the product that day - which rarely happens - Apple gives you an exact date. You rarely, if ever, hear a “First quarter of next year” for a release date.

A couple of other random thoughts floated around to further feed this crazy thought process. How much will the Playbook cost? No one has said a word about pricing. Will it be comparable to the iPad? Cheaper? More expensive? And how about that battery life? Got any specs? Will it do better in some conditions than others?

I’m excited as the next guy to get my hands on the Playbook and I remain optimistic that RIM will deliver on its promise. But it is very convenient how this has played out. RIM’s “coming soon” announcement might just prompt CIOs to pause and maybe re-think their tablet strategies, especially as they finalize next year’s budgets.

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RE: BlackBerry Playbook: I'll believe it when I see it
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iPad has advantages which can not be beaten by any Playbook, Galaxy Tab or WeeTab yet:
1) way better batter life;
2) IPS display;
3) bigger display;
4) dedicated OS for tablet-size devices.

None of it is there for those iPad "killers". And USB ports and cameras are not going to help them since those are far secondary advantages comparing to iPad ones like much better battery life, IPS screen and dedicated OS (not a giant phone UI).
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@denisrs the iPad is used in Baseball?
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@denisrs ... and besides, I have not been terribly impressed with iPad battery life. Blackberry Battry Life is excellent and RIM will have a real challenege on their hands if they cannot match it ont he PlayBook. To me, the missing piece for the iPad is decent RDP access to my desktops at work and at home. If the PlayBook can address those challeneges, and if it can reliably deliver BES services, it will have a real leg up on the iPad for the road warrior.
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@mwagner@... : that is serious thing.

Also, the battery life of Playbook is way shorter than for iPad.

As to RDP, there are countless of applications for that for the iPad, no one complains actually because everyone can find exactly variant suitable.
@mwagner@... you want to tell me that the citrix client for iPad doesn't meet to your standard.. LOL... you just did look.. what a joke.. LOL.. there are also 45 iPad specific remote desktop clients as well..
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I'm actually a RIM/BB supporter myself, but one of my colleagues deals with a client that deploys a lot of iPads and he won't stop talking about this PocketCloud app. I have to admit after trying it that it is a great adaptation of RDP for tablet. I hope that it becomes available for Playbook as I've pre-ordered one already!
@denisrs
How's that Kool Aid tasting today?

You know nothing about the battery life on this device.
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It is the same "up to 6 hours"
DeRSSS 1st Oct 2010
@Droid101: which is no competition to iPad.
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@Droid101 These comments, like this article, are just as much, if not more, intangible than the PlayBook.
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The funny thing is they are getting all kinds of free press and ads. Maybe they aren't so dumb after all.
@ItsTheBottomLine happy happy happy
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free press
banned from zdnet 1st Oct 2010
@ItsTheBottomLine
they are not dumb. that's for sure, but liars. they don't have a product, just a fancy concept video. deception and lies, that's all they have and the tech press falls for another vaporware ploy. amazing, every time.
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RE: BlackBerry Playbook: I'll believe it when I see it
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 2nd Oct 2010
@banned from zdnet ...."liars, deception...like, as in "You're holding the phone wrong?"
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You must be geniuses
K4thwright 30th Sep 2010
You read my mind exactly.
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All very interesting ...
mwagner@... 30th Sep 2010
... and I agree that Apple is far better at introducing new gedgats than anyone else on the planet (and it is likely to remain so as long as Jobs is at the helm).

In order to stay ahead of Apple, though, RIM has to do more. The PlayBook needs to be less expesnive than the iPad. It has to have a functioning APP store (preferably not under the complete control of the carrier). And, it has to seamlessly integrate with BES (and provide seamless RDP services to the enterprise desktop).
OK. Sam, very good observation; let's assume that you are right on all points...so what? It's by no means a very clever, highly effective, super frugal marketing campaign. Hats off to RIM! As far as your comparison goes ...Apple is Apple, Microsoft is Microsoft and RIM is RIM...each has its own unique and distinct ways of doing things. So get over it!
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distinct ways
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@rubenb@...
you mean to claim they have a product when in reality they only have a concept video and thus lying to the public is the way of rim?
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RE: BlackBerry Playbook: I'll believe it when I see it
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 2nd Oct 2010
@banned from zdnet You're really squirming, are'nt you?
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BfZ doesn't like anything or anybody
becabill 2nd Oct 2010
@banned from zdnet NFC
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Its about the Enterprise
brian8t 30th Sep 2010
We can't use the iPad because it simiply isn't for the enterprise. I know, I'll get arguments, but in reality, you can't. Not secure enough. The Playbook is being presented as something I will be willing to bring it, test, and hopefully get it out to my sales and marketing folks to help in their efforts. Security, integration with BES, Flash, and all that, these are the things that we've been waiting for in a tablet. I could care less if you can read a book on it.
@brian8t: with 4.2 update, it is even better for enterprise than Blackberry -- more convenient.

80 of Fortune 100 companies already deploy iPad or run tests.
@denisrs
100 of Fortune 100 companies do tests on a myriad of products.

How much is Apple paying you for all these comments?
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@denisrs

This is an outright false state. Apple is opening API controls which you need a middleware solution to leverage. (trust me they are not free).

Evaluating and Deployment are two vastly different things and I have seen no CBA showing iPad benefits iPad outside of some very basic use cases (which are more for visual "show" then actually proven productivity gains).

The point is 78% of all corporations already have a BES in place, Playbook will intergrate with that and allow management and security of a fleet of Playbooks. We are currently paying $$$ for Good Technology that does a fraction of what BES does for iPhone / iPad management.

Anytime you'd like a comparision of the Apple API set and BES IT policies let me know.
@MobileAdmin - that they are offering their products on the iPad.. so you are saying that you know better than SAP about which platforms are secure enough to keep the record of fortune 100 and 500 companies safe.. you guy are hilarious.. just grasping at any straw to justify your apple hating... you apple haters are really starting to sound rather desperate as well.. it's pretty entertaining to read though..
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Do retail these things?
becabill 2nd Oct 2010
@denisrs NFC
@brian8t - so you know more than SAP about security keeping fortune 100, 500 etc records safe.. there is such desperation and grasping at straws to justify your apple hating it's hilarious.. it's either that or just plain old ignorance... not sure which is worse..
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X-pad/pod fans ... what's the hook?
Trep Ford 30th Sep 2010
Regardless of your preferred manufacturer, I have a sincere, non-confrontational question for all fans of pad/pod style, flat screen device computing and telephony. What's the hook ... for me?

I certainly understand that there are many tasks and job profiles for which pads are or could be ideal. No argument.

But as one who is typically an early adopter of new technologies, I have not yet felt myself catching the "pad/pod" bug. My cash isn't calling to me "use me to buy a pad computer" ... "spend me on a smartphone". Flat screen devices aren't calling my name ... so far. I use my laptop 10 to 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, for creating / editing documents, web/VPN work, web development, consuming reading material, watching movies and detailed editing of photos. As a photographer, writer, editor, web surfer, movie watcher ... I look at flat screen devices ... I understand the appeal for some ... but I don't feel compelled to rush out and buy one.

Am I missing something?

Would I appreciate a laptop with a removable screen that doubled as a pad? Sure!!! I can imagine keying up a document for half an hour or so on the bus, popping off the screen, reading casually for a while, then shutting down. I can see that reading on the bus would be more comfortable with a pad than a PC. But that's not enough to justify my buying one. And what about those ideas I get, mid article, that require I start writing all of the sudden ... where did my keyboard go?

If ... if I could get a flat screen phone/plan as cheap as my buttoned phone, just because they look cool, would I? Sure!! Got anything with a free phone and no contract that costs $60 a year?

I have NO doubt that at some point I will invest in these technologies if and when my work profile aligns with the advantages of these devices. But for what I do today, unless someone can reveal an angle on these tech toys that I've missed, I'll hold off for now.

So ... educate me. Fill me in.
@Trep Ford - if photography & writing are key "task" activities (as they are for me as well), then perhaps the software isn't mature enough yet. There's no Lightroom or Aperture yet for iPad, which is what I'd love on a shoot or photo trip. Writing is, well, on glass unless you have an external keyboard (which isn't bad)... pretty much like a netbook.

It's great for reading, watching movies, and light office stuff at the moment. Of course, as more web tools (growing in importance) leverage tablet stylesheets and UI approaches, tablets will become more useful.

If you're not seeing a compelling case for having one, wait until you do. I predict you will see that compelling app at some point.
@wazungu Agreed ... and when I do, I'll be sure to mention it here.
@wazungu How about a pad that snaps onto a keyboard?
If the pad technology is here, then devising a system that pops onto a full-size keyboard is just mechanical engineering. Kind of a reverse laptop dock.
I agree in general with the author's point - this is vaporware until we can play with it (or at least, watch Lazaridis play with a real one). If it's as good as the demo video, finally the iPad will have some serious competition.

Also, found this (via @daringfireball): http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/tablet.jsp

"Apps" are HTML/Javascript/CSS web apps, and Flash. If there's an "App store", it won't be like any other mobile platform (with 'native' apps).

What fascinates me about that angle is the idea someone's finally gotten Flash to run effectively on a mobile device. If so, it could reverse that platforms' slide into irrelevance.

The PlayBook will be competing with iPad 2.0. Good luck with that! wink
@wazungu
Flash runs just peachy on my Nexus One. What are you blathering about now?
@Droid101

You're making Windows and Mac "fanbois" look pretty tame with all your cheap shots at anything but "droid" supporters.

Is that the only time you crawl out from under your droid-fanboy rock?

Sheesh
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RE: BlackBerry Playbook: I'll believe it when I see it
MobileAdmin Updated - 30th Sep 2010
@wazungu

Wouldn't the mentioned iPad 2.0 be vapourware since Apple has not even stated they are making one or have plans to relase in the next 6 months?
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RE: BlackBerry Playbook: I'll believe it when I see it
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 3rd Oct 2010
@wazungu Isn't iPad 2.0 technically vapourware also? Unnerstan the meaning of da woid "hypocrisy"?
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Shows what you know.
kidtree 30th Sep 2010
I happen to know someone who not only has one, but has been using it since mid-August. And he gets great battery life and reception at his North Pole workshop.
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Not Quite ...
MobileAdmin 30th Sep 2010
Did I miss Monday being labeled the Playbook launch event?

I'm sure when RIM is ready to provide the details you whine about it will be well marketed and every single question concern will be answered (good or bad).

More to come this was simply to show developers what QNX OS will look and function like, the form factor and information to get developers started for when this does launch. It was not a tech blog Q&A session.
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What a coincidence... I'm releasing a tablet too. It has a octo-core processor, 24 GB of RAM, a 434 GB SSD, 18 cameras, an OS that "doesn't compromise", all in a .5 mm package. I'll get back to you on pricing, but expect a release date sometime in the future. In the mean time, I, too, will show you different computer-generated OS concepts on various walls and items.
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LMAO.. that's pretty much it...
doctorSpoc 1st Oct 2010
@dorothymantooth - so how did you get around the tablet melting into a molten pool of metal, plastic and glass as soon as you pushed the on button?

i guess you must have hired the same engineers that RIM hired to solve the problem of the PlayBook's battery dying as soon as they pressed the on button wink
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Hand truck
becabill 2nd Oct 2010
@doctorSpoc ...and any car battery will do. Jumper cable optional at extra cost.
(Steel toe shoes suggested)
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RE: BlackBerry Playbook: I'll believe it when I see it
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 3rd Oct 2010
@dorothymantooth Is that you, Steve?
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Exactly
draymis 1st Oct 2010
I've been thinking this exact same thing. RIM came out & announced a product that's shipping at some vague time in the future for some undetermined price. Hmm... sounds kind of like the Samsung Tab....

It really sounds as if they're trying to freeze the market - like M$ used to be able to do in the 90's & early 2000's. But, um... RIM, I hate to be the one with bad news, but you're nowhere near as powerful as M$ used to be. You're an also ran in the consumer space and you think you're going to freeze out one of the hottest products of the year?

Seriously?

Say what you want about Apple, but when they announce a new hardware product, you know exactly when it's going on sales & exactly how much it'll cost.

Compared to RIM, which offered... nothing but a few digitally rendered animations, just like they did with the Torch. And look how that's turned out.
While I think the general tenor of your remarks regarding Apple's demoing policies are generally correct, in fact, not everything is expressed Swiss-watch precise. I remember last September that iOS 4.2 was announced as coming some time in November.
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"Tablet Fever" is ********
trickytom3 2nd Oct 2010
You know, I fell for tablet fever, then I borrowed a friends iPad for a week, and it totally sucked.

The iPad itself was nice , but, what a pain in the ass to carry around! Also, one thing that I didn't count on was how tiring it is to hold the thing up for an hour. I'm used to my laptop, which works great when its on my...you know...lap top.

I absolutely HATED typing on the iPad's cramped e-board. After three days, I put the thing on the shelf and went back to my laptop.

My conclusion is that this whole "tablet fever" is that its total ********.
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You guys are full of it. It obviously exists and your 2yr old tantrum of why can't i see it is pathetic. Grow up you are supposed to be reporters not school kids.
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