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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Can cyberattacks usurp U.S. superpower status?

By | April 23, 2010, 6:11am PDT

Cybersecurity could rip away the superpower status of the U.S., argues a CBS News report. Do you buy that?

CBS News, as part of its Where America Stands series, delved into the cybersecurity issue. There’s no question that cybersecurity is a major issue, but you do wonder if the report is overplaying its hand. Could you really bring down the U.S. with a cyberattack?

The money quote:

“We can say that sovereignty’s at risk,” said Sami Saydjari.  He heads the Cyber Defense Agency, an information security company. “Basically our whole superpower status as the United States depends on computers,” he said. “We lose them, we lose our status as a superpower. We become a Third World country overnight.”

That’s a great quote, but it may just be over the top—at least that’s my initial response. The big beef is that there’s no cybersecurity accountability or international law. Meanwhile, state attacks are everywhere. The challenge: Button down the Internet in the U.S. Of course, that effort is like herding cats. There are a lot of taskforces and government chatter, but limited progress. In the end, cybersecurity may be a military operation.

What’s your take on the report and the issue?

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RE: RE: RE: Can cyberattacks usurp U.S. superpower status?
lehnerus2000 Updated - 4th May 2010
@adornoe@...
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To remove any confusion you might have, I am not defending the USSR's policies or practices.
" In the real world, where the U.S. and the Soviet Union are concerned, the U.S. won the super-power contest called the "cold war". So, the big military of the Soviets didn't "trump" anything... "
Only because the USSR didn't use them. Remember MAD? The USSR was effectively destroyed (economically).

" That would've been the childish way of diplomacy and an idiotic way of running a country. "
Remember the "Arms Race"?
Here's a refresher:
"We can destroy the World 10x over!"
"So what? We can destroy the World 12x over!"
Shouldn't once over have been enough?

" Having lots of money affords a country the means with which to build a strong military. A strong military without a strong economy to back it up is nothing but a farce and a waste. A strong military does not lead to a strong economy. A strong economy will build a lot of wealth and a strong military is much easier to afford and maintain with that wealth. "
Agreed, but the purpose of the military is to prevent other countries taking your "stuff", or to take another countries "stuff". If you want to have and keep your "stuff", you need a military. I stand by my original statement.

" So, you're equating how business is done at the common crime level to how business is conducted at the highest levels of government? "
So no country has ever invaded another one to take its "stuff"? Why did the Nazi Germany pillage Europe? Why did Iraq invade Kuwait?

" The problem with "proper oversight" or "enforcement" is that, when there are problems, the regulators almost always come up with more regulations in order to implement "proper oversight" and "enforcement" ".
I contend that is because the original regulation was faulty, or some "genius" came up with a novel way to circumvent it.

"The U.S. is not a direct democracy. We have a democratic republic type of government here. "
Yes I know that. Australia is the same. You should have heard the idiots howling, after our last State election.

" Goldman Sachs is not a democracy of the people or by the people or for the people. "
Yes I know that, too. However my understanding is that the more shares you have, the more votes you get. If The US elections were held using that system (except $ value instead of shares), the top 10,000 Americans could out vote most of the country (if not all of it). with companies most of the shares would be held by a small number of shareholders (mostly other companies). Here in Australia shareholder votes aren't even binding on the board!

" What Goldman Sachs does with their business is not any business of the government unless they violate any regulations or laws. Sleaziness or non-ethical practices are not things that government should be in the practice of regulating or controlling."
How do you think Laws are created/decided upon? Laws are created because society decides that a behaviour is evil/non-ehtical/sleezy. Take Theft for example. People didn't wake up one day and say, "Let's make a law against theft", they decided that it was evil.
Of course the Government should regulate non-ethical behaviour, example:
You go to your doctor and he/she prescribes a certain medicine. What you don't know is, that your doctor has made a deal with a medical company to recommend their product, in return for a payment. You could have bought the same medicine (different brand) cheaper. Both medicines have the same effectiveness, but you had to pay extra because you didn't have the necessary information and you trusted your doctor. Your position is "caveat emptor"? My position is that practice should be illegal, or the doctor should have to tell about the payment. That way you could decide whether or not, your doctor deserves a bonus.
Another example is "Anti-Monopolistic Behaviour" laws. People decided, that behaviour was evil/non-ehtical/sleezy, and the Government introduced a law. I contend that law is faulty as companies still (allegedly) try it.
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I agree with the premise......
OhTheHumanity 23rd Apr 2010
but to suggest a third world country over night is just ridiculous. I am totally on board with not twiddling our thumbs and getting something done. But as we all know it takes a lot to get the government moving because its way too massive. Everything piece mealed over the years and now we see what a pain it is to get things in check. Big governments create big problems.
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After McAffee I believe
zclayton2 23rd Apr 2010
We were shut down and no work got done the rest of 4/21. if a cyberattack broke enough systems, Government would be in a world of hurt. And that one was relatively benign and easy to fix.
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yeah I agree.....
OhTheHumanity 23rd Apr 2010
its a major threat to us and we need to step it up. I think Obama is doing a descent job on that front, but we really need to make this a top priority, but Im sure health care and going after Wall Street is more important to this president when right now it should be the other way around. Whats Wall Street and Health Care when all your computer systems are being taken over by the Chinese? Its not going anywhere.
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self serving crap I say...
Bradish@... 23rd Apr 2010
Sami would say that to ensure his job, his 'importance' and his funding.
Does this mean that before the era of widespread computers the US was NOT a superpower? Yes we depend on them a whole lot but can we still function and effectively without? Of course we can or are we all idiots? OOPS maybe I should not have asked that question!
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Superpower requires a few things:
John Zern 23rd Apr 2010
One) Economy of scale: 303 million people live in the US, the third largest populated country in the world; 3rd (or 4th) in terms of largest amount of landmass, too. (6.5%)

Two) Military: first or second largest military in the world, (quite advanced)

Three) Natural Resources: The US can be, if neccesary, one of the few self providing countries in the world should the need arise given untapped resources at our disposal. (see respones one)

Four) Industry: The US is an industrialized nation, and if needed can produce what is needed to survive moving forward.

Yes, computers play a large role in it, and do need to be secured so as to protect the technology and assests, but the US grew to what is was without computers given the access to resources at our disosal.
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Oboma is working on 3rd world
Use_More_OIL_NOW 23rd Apr 2010
Oboma is working on finishing off this, his goal is to create the Socialist States just like the USSR that FAILED!

Good job all of the free loaders who voted for this Kenya born communist.
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Well.....
OhTheHumanity 23rd Apr 2010
I think the "not born here" thing is over and should just go away. I do agree he is a socialist for sure and its been proven by his own words. No not the words he says now as president when he tries to act like it, but from his book, interviews, and the people he associates paints a different picture than what he says on camera now as president.

Heck one of his top advisors Cass Sunstein is all about banning free speech with his paper he wrote on banning conspieracy theories. I would never associate with such a person and most American's wouldn't either. To be honest I think the bigger threat is from the inside no doubt.
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silly, but the rhetoric this president displays and has displayed is very, very scary.

However, the majority of the populace appears to be finally waking up. Thank God!
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What majority of the populace?
storm14k 23rd Apr 2010
The same handful of people showing up at rally
after rally doesn't make for the majority.
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No it doesn't.....
OhTheHumanity 23rd Apr 2010
But every poll I have been seeing from all polling sources is showing just that. Have you checked his approval rating lately? People are fed up with the deceit and half truths that come out of politicians mouths. Really I think people are tired of polticians almost completely. Its been too many years that its all about them and not about whats good for the country.

I mean our country is filled to the brim with hypocrisy and its time we stop that BS. People that attcked Bush are now not attacking Obama for the same thing and vise versa. Lets deal with the facts and statistics instead of emotion and social engineering.
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And.....
OhTheHumanity 23rd Apr 2010
Focus on the things that ensure our liberties like protecting the countries vital computer systems.
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Ok this stinks of big government from the get go...Come on people either you are ignorant or you need to stop buying into your potlical bias !

Anyone who "Knows" knows no system can ever be 100#% secure !!!

Even if computer systems are off line,you still have social enginerring tactics to steal data and infect systems. Another thing anyone who "Knows" knows is that their is no substitute for good adminsitrative policies.

That is the problem in a nutshell for government, the recent scandal at the SEC PROVES MY POINT !

In any of my networks you would have never gotten away with viewing PORN ! NEVER !

Yet at the SEC it was a regular passtime !

If anything Systems Admin, is the area government should look into, yet wait a min, they fail massivly at this too.

So the best thing would be, let the private sector handle itslef and let the millitarry handle the government systems as they tend to do well in this area !
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All polls show evidence of it !
electroman76 24th Apr 2010
Like Gallup and Rassumussn !
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He wasn't born here Jackarse...
Peter Perry 25th Apr 2010
He was born in Kenya but his mother was a citizen of Hawaii and at the time Hawaii Law said that any child born to a citizen of Hawaii was a Hawaiin Citizen and therefor is a US Citizen...

In short, yes he's a US Citizen but no he wasn't born her.
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The TRUTH?
whosiwhatzit 26th Apr 2010
Nobody but Obama knows for sure where he was born. I must say that it is amusing how many folks claim they know something when in fact, they are simply repeating some unsubstantiated rumor they have heard. This whole Obama birth thing is a pretty complicated issue, but it really has no bearing on the subject of cyber-attacks.

While we must protect our national security from cyber-attacks, there are real threats to our status as a super power from terrorists or rogue states from high altitude nuclear blast induced EMP. If you want to talk about genuine threats to our lifestyle and status in the world. With more nukes available and rogue states with high altitude missile capability, this becomes a real scenario.

http://www.newsmax.com/RonaldKessler/emp-electromagneticpulse-William-Graham/2010/04/05/id/354742

A cyber-attack might cause a short term problem, and we could recover relatively quickly. An EMP on the other hand would take years to recover from and would dramatically effect every single citizen's life in ways that are hard to fathom.
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Typical to ignorant drivel, your logic and correlation to reality are greatly lacking.
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Way to go...
Peter Perry 25th Apr 2010
You really proved somebody wrong there... I'm just not sure it was him!
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Prove to us you're not a
John Zern 23rd Apr 2010
Kenya born communist.

I see: you can't.
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Learn to Spell
zclayton2 23rd Apr 2010
You might be more credible. Oh, and the last time I checked, Kenya wasn't communist.
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How so?
HypnoToad72 23rd Apr 2010
And why not what Reagan and Bush did to help lower wages (by proxy, thanks to corporate lobbyists trumping all) and contribute to our current state?
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Or?
Peter Perry 25th Apr 2010
What Clinton did fueling an entitlement mentality while turning a blind eye to wall street...

Of course what he did, he did right in front of you face in signing NAFTA knowing it not only gave Canada and Mexico Free Trade but also China (thanks to their most favored nation status) and along with that went every last manufacturing job this country had.
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While sad it does appear to be heading that with
ItsTheBottomLine 23rd Apr 2010
the policies and thinking he is doing, including reducing the military.
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Indeed John
Lampoon 23rd Apr 2010
These self-serving doomsdayers seem to forget that the physical is all that matters in the long run. I love my IT but this is going too far. We haven't built the Matrix yet. Militarily the objective is gaining and holding territory that is why no war was won by air power alone. It needs infantry and the army would function without IT albeit not as well. I can just see a hacker with an assault rifle pointed at him... "mother..." (a la Daffy Duck). Cheers
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Possible of course, and china more than likely would be involved.if they try is we'll kick some --- that's for sure.
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So long as the vast majority of the nations's computers
continue to use the same internal architecture, there is no
hope. Apple's reversion back to Intel architecture belies it's
"think different" advertising. A really clever hacker could
make a virus that would run in background on the underlying
hardware. To avoid this, I say keep up the RISK chip
development, now only in the hands of Sun and IBM. Viruses
& worms made for little-endian architecture will not run on
big-endian hardware.
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Hype to get $$$
scott1329 23rd Apr 2010
It's getting silly - hype to get $$$. I'd like to know who brokered that sweetheart deal to get all the Pentagon soldiers trained in that worthless CEH certification.
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They are right.
storm14k 23rd Apr 2010
The WinFans remind us of it all the time. Windows is on
90% of desktops and its one big ole open target. wink
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in the FAA, and quite a few "mass death" type "near misses" proved that it may not be the best choice to stake someone's life on.
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What software
zclayton2 23rd Apr 2010
And who developed it? If it was in house, would you have trusted it? I have high respect for the ATCs they have, no basis for the programing ability of FAA.
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Open Solaris and Reh Hat Linux
John Zern Updated - 23rd Apr 2010
If I remember the articles a little while back.

I'm just countering stormy up there who thinks his little piece of the OS world is some sort of a gift from God to the point that he forget the obvious sometime, that his little OS is routinelly hacked to the same consequences as any other.
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What OS?
storm14k 23rd Apr 2010
I didn't even name one. I guess even the WinFans
know which OS is best suited for the job and
attack it automatically.
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Maybe you haven't been watching...
Peter Perry 25th Apr 2010
Maybe you haven't been watching the conventions lately but Windows isn't as hackable as it once was and even recent attacks have been against 3rd party software...

But hey Stormy, you don't have to hate MS just because those same 3rd party vendors refuse to support your crappy OS without any good Development Suites.
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Speaking of the FAA ..
SkaldedKat 26th Apr 2010
That's why all of the world's airlines use Windows for absolutely safe flights? Nope, sorry, Windows fails the security check right there! And airlines don't use Apple either.
For the same reason we have multi-billion dollar forces guarding our land, air and sea borders, we should force all data content crossing our borders through the most secure array of routers that we can afford. Develop the ability to eliminate packet containing various kinds of content, reducing it to ASCII text or nothing if necessary.

License independent private agencies to audit it for privacy violations.

The internet could still be taken down domestically, but not for long.
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Minuteman?
rarsa 23rd Apr 2010
To avoid conflict you build bridges, not fences.
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WTF?
billkeylargo 23rd Apr 2010
"To avoid conflict you build bridges, not fences." - Minuteman

So maybe we should disassemble our domestic police too and then just "build bridges" to criminals...

We can build all the bridges that make sense (However the bridge to Iran hasn't worked out like the administration planned), but we still need a defense.

Wars are caused by undefended wealth.
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Dude
Peter Perry 25th Apr 2010
Rarsa has been hitting the Hippy Weed again!

Anyone that thinks their freedoms are the result of frenship bridges and peace pipes ought to study the indians and our own Revolutionary War...

Our rights didn't come by talking and even Russian leaders have stated that the financial collapse of the USA would make Alaska an very attractive target for their take over... When people are saying that and you're not at war with them then bridges clearly aren't the answer!

As for shutting traffic down, we have that... Our Telecomm setup in the US runs through fiber lines that mostly run across the ocean floor... Shut those lines down and it doesn't matter what these DOS bozos try to pull.
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In a word: no
wolf_z 23rd Apr 2010
Strip our superpower status? (ROFL) What does that even *mean*?

Seems to me he's been watching too much Dark Angel. And I would remind him that wasn't a cyber-attack, it was a massive EMP pulse--and not a very credible premise even so! (Though Jessica Alba, (licking chops)) happy

Sounds like an idiot with a forum to me...
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Yes, for a limited time
Dogcatcher 23rd Apr 2010
I fear that some of those who answer "no" to the question are wearing blinders.

A full-scale cyber attack will not target our laptops or most businesses, it will be directed at infrastructure, and the operating system will be largely irrelevant. Think:

* Telecommunications
* Power grid
* Finance
* Oil and gas pipelines

Can another nation pull off such an attack? We don't know. If I were the Secretary of Defense I would plan based on a reasonable probability that several nations are working to develop the capability.

The great advantage of cyber attack capability is that it is relatively cheap to develop, compared with the production of aircraft and missles, and the maintenance of troops. (E-mail vs postal mail.) This means the capability can be developed by small adversaries, not just super-states like China and Russia.

The disadvantage to a cyber attack is that without concurrent physical destruction the infrastructure can be restored, although it may take many days to do so. Until then, the US would be more vulnerable to a physical attack.

Even if there were no physical attack, the disruption caused by widespread lack of electric power would be substantial and would allow a small adversary to make a very large point.
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The internet is something that has been integrated into so much of how the world does things that, if the U.S. is the target of a cyberattack, so is the world. The U.S. is, no matter how much one wishes to disagree, the center of the web universe. As goes the U.S., so goes the world. So, if the U.S. were to be the target, whoever did the targeting would also suffer from the massive loss of service throughout the world and within their own shores. If we couldn't communicate one way, would could still communicate by other means and we'd still be the number one power in every other sense.

However, whoever wants to undermine the U.S. and strip it from superpower status doesn't have to try very hard. It's already happening and the enemy that's causing it is not external to the U.S.

No superpower can achieve or retain such a status without a super economy. All other aspects of a super-power, such as it's military and it's infrastructure and culture and way of life, all depend upon having a very strong economy.

The economy of the U.S. is slowly but surely being downgraded through socialism. Socialism cannot provide for a super-economy. That's why the old USSR dissolved and it's super-power status was nothing but a sham, with that country only being able to attain super-power status in the military sense only. The USSR's military was being built up at the expense of the general welfare of it's people. The economy wasn't powerful enough to sustain a decent standard of living for the people while the military was using so much of the country's resources.

In the U.S., we still have the strongest military in the world, but our economy is being eaten up by the massive government spending for socialized government programs. And even now, that social spending is growing while the economy has downsized.

No one country can be a super-power without a strong economy. The economy drives everything else the country gets involved in.

It's only a matter of time before the U.S. ceases being a super-power, and there are people around the world and even within the U.S. who believe that the U.S. should not be in the "super-power" business, or that it shouldn't be the only super-power. So, there are people even within the U.S. who are quite fine with the U.S. losing it's super-power status, including many people in congress and in the White House.

Our enemies don't need to attack our internet infrastructure or even our economic infrastructure or our way of life or our religious beliefs. We are self-destructing and all our enemies need to do is to wait us out.
"The USSR's military was being built up at the
expense of the general welfare of it's people"

Who do you think pays for our military? WE DO!!!
The only difference between us and the USSR was
that they built things directly and we pay a
middle man to do it that takes profit off the
top. We can just as easily go broke by military
wasting as the USSR did. People cry and whine
about the deficit now but alot of it was created
by our completely pointless war in Iraq.

Go sit down somewhere with that socialism crap.
A socialist wouldn't prop up a corporation thats
about to fail. They'd take it over. Contrary to
what Faux news tells you that hasn't happened.
In fact GM is parading around now saying its
paid back its government LOAN with interest.

Its this type of lack of common sense thats
going to kill America. Now more than ever the
lack of education in this country is being
exposed.
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Actually based on a multitude of polls the people
ItsTheBottomLine Updated - 23rd Apr 2010
are very tired of the entitlement state that Obama and his pet poodle pelosi are trying to setup. Bottom line - if healthcare bill was so darn important and a good thing then why was it crammed through congress and down America?s throat? Most people agree something should be done, but to do it right. If done correctly and publicly then you would have a lot of people supporting it instead it 2K pages of stuff that bottom line not one person really knows what is in there? I'm sorry, a hand up is a good thing a hand out is a bad thing and there is way to many people in congress ready to do hand outs. You can defend it all you want but bottom line is - that defense is now in the minority. November cannot get here quick enough. Might explain why he is still dropping in the polls. He setting this country up to be weaker each year. For a person who has never run anything in his life, but sure can write a good book about all of his "accomplishments". There are going to be a lot people rethinking why they voted the way they did.

Hopefully a good president will step up the next election because what we have now is crap, Bush wasn't any good, Clinton - well White Trailer Trash is the best example there... The younger the president the worse it seems to be...
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You do know that....
storm14k 23rd Apr 2010
while many people don't support the current
action its because its not "entitlement based"
enough right? Poll after poll has shown that the
majority of America wants a single payer health
care system. In fact when Obama started off with
this bill 70% of people wanted at least a public
option. Don't be fooled into thinking people
want the same ole privatized crap. Anything
privatized is not reform. Thats why people don't
care for this bill. It did not eliminate the
private death panels.
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More utter nonsense!
adornoe@... 23rd Apr 2010
You do know that....
while many people don't support the current
action its because its not "entitlement based"
enough right? Poll after poll has shown that the
majority of America wants a single payer health
care system. In fact when Obama started off with
this bill 70% of people wanted at least a public
option.

Polls can be structured in such a way that they can extract any response that the pollster wishes to get out there.

However, if Pelosi and Obama and the rest of the democratic party "leadership" believed any of what you say above, why didn't they go ahead and pass a bill that contained the single payer option? The people backed them up, didn't they? Chances are that neither Obama nor congress felt comfortable passing the single payer option which so many people, poll after poll, said they didn't want. However, when people mentioned they wanted the single payer system, they also mentioned that they didn't want government running it or legislating it upon the people. The fact of the matter is that, just before the bill was passed, 52% of the people were against it with about 38% for it. Since the bill passed and as people became more familiar with the contents of the bill, we now have 58% of the people against it and only about 34% for it. So, as time passes and people learn more about the bill, the reaction to it gets more and more negative. Polls are indicating that people want the bill repealed after the democrats are voted out.

The fact is that, the monstrosity that was passed is not going to solve any of the problems that were inherent in the private health care system; the monstrosity is just going to make things worse and make health care more costly and less efficient. Anything where the government is involved always ends up costing much more and runs a lot less efficiently. People already know that from the experiences of Medicare and Medicaid and Welfare and Social Security. Those programs are very wasteful and very expensive and full of fraud and very inefficient. Why do we need more layers of the same kind of stupidity? The majority of the people have stated over and over again that they didn't want government involved in their health care decisions and that's why so many of them are looking to remove the democrats from power this coming November. Too bad Obama has to stay there another 2 years after November, otherwise, he'd be outta there too.

Don't be fooled into thinking people want the same ole privatized crap.

That "crap" you speak of has been the best health care system in the world. We set the standards for health care even if there are countries where people believe they get their health care for "free". Our system designed most of the the drugs that people in the U.S. and that most of the world depends on. We also designed the medical techniques and equipment that so much of the world depends on. Without the initiatives afforded by the privatized system, the motivation for research and development won't be there and health care around the world will suffer because of it. The fact is that many of those other "socialized medicine" countries have come to depend on the U.S. for many of the supplies and medicines and techniques and equipment that we develop. Without us doing the research and development, a lot of those other countries wouldn't be able to afford "free" health care.

Anything privatized is not reform.

Why reform the best system for wealth creation that man has ever created? Privatization is what has made the U.S. the greatest in just about anything. Socialization is just going to kill the golden goose that laid so many golden eggs for us.

No health care system is ever going to be perfect, but with government involvement, any system will be made worse.

Thats why people don't care for this bill. It did not eliminate the private death panels.

What the heck are you talking about?

Who has those "death panels' and where?

The fact is that it was the democrats' bill which contained the "death panels" which would allow government bureaucrats to decide who would live and who would die. So, it would seem it's you who has things backwards. It sounds like you have an issue with the "death panels", if they exist, being in private hands and you would prefer for them to be run by government bureaucrats. What a good-hearted soul you are!

By the way, there are countries that are already running the way you want government to run. You still have the option to move there and please, don't corrupt or destroy this one more than it has been. Big government is never your friend.
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nt
I put it in the wrong place and I'm not about to remove the other one just to place it under your post. Everything I said is applicable as a stand-alone post for the article, as well as to your post.

Have fun.
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It's not about the Internet
Dogcatcher 23rd Apr 2010
A smart cyber attack is not going to focus on our web servers, and the inherent resiliency of the Internet structure is not going to matter if there is no electricity to run all our servers, cell towers, and gadgets. Need more fuel for those stand-by generators? Have fun pumping it if the power grid is down.

As for what's happening to the US, well, the nation is in decline because we, the people, have chosen our politicians poorly for much of the last fifty years. A smart adversary, i.e. one that prefers not to waste its money or the lives of its people, will patiently wait for the US to rot from within.
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You seem to be asking for feedback? Well, this is actually an OLD STORY. During the Bush Administration FRONTLINE on PBS did a piece called Cyber Wars: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cyberwar/view/

Back then, Richard Clarke was highlighted and he said things were not as they should be, on top of that, our grid is aging--I remembering reading that the computers used to spy on ordinary people were suffering power shortages..not that THAT is a bad thing.

Or the impact of an EMP attack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse

Then too there is the big issue of PEAK OIL: http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/graph_201_10_4_2006.jpg

People like to think there are techno fixes for resource depletion, but the more you know about it--NOPE, there aren't. So there the threats--technological, social, environmental, and economic are all HUGE. If you read a lot outside of the tech world you would know this. I have spent at least 5 years reading up on all of it. I'd say this baby is GOING DOWN.

The party is over.
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To remove any confusion you might have, I am not defending the USSR's policies or practices.
" In the real world, where the U.S. and the Soviet Union are concerned, the U.S. won the super-power contest called the "cold war". So, the big military of the Soviets didn't "trump" anything... "
Only because the USSR didn't use them. Remember MAD? The USSR was effectively destroyed (economically).

" That would've been the childish way of diplomacy and an idiotic way of running a country. "
Remember the "Arms Race"?
Here's a refresher:
"We can destroy the World 10x over!"
"So what? We can destroy the World 12x over!"
Shouldn't once over have been enough?

" Having lots of money affords a country the means with which to build a strong military. A strong military without a strong economy to back it up is nothing but a farce and a waste. A strong military does not lead to a strong economy. A strong economy will build a lot of wealth and a strong military is much easier to afford and maintain with that wealth. "
Agreed, but the purpose of the military is to prevent other countries taking your "stuff", or to take another countries "stuff". If you want to have and keep your "stuff", you need a military. I stand by my original statement.

" So, you're equating how business is done at the common crime level to how business is conducted at the highest levels of government? "
So no country has ever invaded another one to take its "stuff"? Why did the Nazi Germany pillage Europe? Why did Iraq invade Kuwait?

" The problem with "proper oversight" or "enforcement" is that, when there are problems, the regulators almost always come up with more regulations in order to implement "proper oversight" and "enforcement" ".
I contend that is because the original regulation was faulty, or some "genius" came up with a novel way to circumvent it.

"The U.S. is not a direct democracy. We have a democratic republic type of government here. "
Yes I know that. Australia is the same. You should have heard the idiots howling, after our last State election.

" Goldman Sachs is not a democracy of the people or by the people or for the people. "
Yes I know that, too. However my understanding is that the more shares you have, the more votes you get. If The US elections were held using that system (except $ value instead of shares), the top 10,000 Americans could out vote most of the country (if not all of it). with companies most of the shares would be held by a small number of shareholders (mostly other companies). Here in Australia shareholder votes aren't even binding on the board!

" What Goldman Sachs does with their business is not any business of the government unless they violate any regulations or laws. Sleaziness or non-ethical practices are not things that government should be in the practice of regulating or controlling."
How do you think Laws are created/decided upon? Laws are created because society decides that a behaviour is evil/non-ehtical/sleezy. Take Theft for example. People didn't wake up one day and say, "Let's make a law against theft", they decided that it was evil.
Of course the Government should regulate non-ethical behaviour, example:
You go to your doctor and he/she prescribes a certain medicine. What you don't know is, that your doctor has made a deal with a medical company to recommend their product, in return for a payment. You could have bought the same medicine (different brand) cheaper. Both medicines have the same effectiveness, but you had to pay extra because you didn't have the necessary information and you trusted your doctor. Your position is "caveat emptor"? My position is that practice should be illegal, or the doctor should have to tell about the payment. That way you could decide whether or not, your doctor deserves a bonus.
Another example is "Anti-Monopolistic Behaviour" laws. People decided, that behaviour was evil/non-ehtical/sleezy, and the Government introduced a law. I contend that law is faulty as companies still (allegedly) try it.

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