Cool infographic shows Apple's 'tipping point'

Cool infographic shows Apple's 'tipping point'

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  • I'm getting one, my dad is and other people I know are

    I'm getting one of the Mini's. I at least know 3 other off the top of my head that are too. Also three other personal that have been interested in a mac and this is putting them over the edge.

    It's the cheapest and funnest way to EDIT High Res HD with iMovie HD and Final Cut Express HD.

    Cool stuff...
    matson_z
    • call us when you grow up....

      >It's the cheapest and funnest way to EDIT High Res HD with iMovie HD and Final Cut Express HD

      With last year's CPU, 256MB RAM and a 40GB HD, you are not going to be editing much HD Video.
      wolfman@...
      • tried it have you? thought not or you'd have engaged brain before talking

        Even an Intel Pentium 4 1GHz (much slower than
        the Mac Mini) can edit video, and with this much
        ram and hard disk.

        Get a clue, and don't be so insulting.
        hipparchus2000
        • Apple - 'All your money are belong to us'

          >>Even an Intel Pentium 4 1GHz (much slower than
          the Mac Mini) can edit video, and with this much
          ram and hard disk

          Engage your own brain Bubba - there never was a 1GHz P4 - started shipping at 1.4GHz.

          and I used to edit video on a DX266 486, but it certainly wasn't HDTV - will you Maccies ever understand technology or do you just like 'the pretty'
          wolfman@...
      • You've never owned a mac or used OS X so clam it..lol

        You have never owned a mac or used OS X so clam it..lol

        Hmm I think I will call Apple..

        You don't know a think your talking about..........so stop talking because your spreading your own ignorance. Read the specs, check out a mac and try iMovieHD. You will eat your words.........
        matson_z
        • ha ha - to you

          been there, done that, have the pie... eat your own words.

          The Mac is not all it is carcked up to be and the Mac mini is even less of the same - sorry..
          wolfman@...
  • Do analysts ever consider the big picture?

    Take a step back, get out of the hypnotic Jobs gaze.

    OK you have a machine that says Mac - what will we do with it? Edit video - needs more RAM and harddrive, do some Photoshop stuff - needs more RAM. Make some music, needs more harddrive. All the things the Mac is famous for, this system is too underpowered for.
    wolfman@...
    • Make some music, needs more harddrive

      How in the hell do you make that out?
      Same thing goes for video editing.
      I've done both on much more lightly powered PCs.
      And I've run my own personal benchmarks proving
      that the PowerPC is double (1.8) the speed of
      the Intel for the same MHz.
      Crucially, I've done both on a much slower mac
      running OSX.
      hipparchus2000
      • Wow a Mac Joker :-)

        >>And I've run my own personal benchmarks proving
        that the PowerPC is double (1.8) the speed of
        the Intel for the same MHz.

        Typical Macism - the G4 and G5 are totally different processors - your argument holds less water than a leaky bucket
        wolfman@...
    • Question for wolfman224

      Have you actually tried to use any of the applications that you reference in your "Do analysts ever cinsider the big picture?"?
      benmiller2
      • Cheapest way to surf the web (And not get Owned!)

        Aside from installing a Linux distro the mini is the least
        expensive way for Average Joe to surf the web without worry. I
        could set up clients with cheap Linux boxes cheaper but the
        average person I deal with would still call me on a weekly basis
        for instruction on installing applications or adding hardware.
        Mom and Pop can pick this up, plug it in and plug in there cable
        e-net and never call me again.
        Zoraster
        • my cellphone was free

          and it surfs the web - can't get mush cheaper than that
          wolfman@...
      • answer - yes

        and in the heat of actually doing this for money. I also understand the technicalities behind it. - if it is physically impossible, then even Steve Jobs saying it will work, will not make it work..... sorry
        wolfman@...
    • This is a low end consumer machine

      I have edited video with iMovie on slower machines with less
      RAM, and it worked great! True this is no speed demon, but it
      has a faster microprocessor than my current Powerbook and I
      use Photoshop every day (true I have 1 Gig of RAM). How many
      consumers or education users will use Photoshop? Not too
      many. How much hard disk space do you need to edit some
      home videos in iMovie and export them? A few Gigs maybe.
      You've got plenty of HD space for that! I think you would be
      surprised at the number of Mac users that don't need a high
      powered system. They just want something to type documents
      in, edit a few movies or pictures, read some email, paly a few
      games or movies, etc. That was the whole reason for the iMac
      and eMac lines. My Powerbook is 1.5 years old and cost $3000
      at the time. This machine meets or beats most of its specs for
      $500. I can tell you that I am still quite pleased with my
      Powerbook's speed (even in Photoshop!!) and my HD still has 22
      GB of HD space open, even with iMovies of my family and all my
      software, music CDs in iTunes, and files. I would guess that I
      have 2-3 times as much on my HD (since this is used for home
      and work) than most home or education users would have. I
      wouldn't personally buy one of these for work. I would agree
      with you there (it is OK for now, underpowered for tomorrow).
      But to replace our 400 MHz iMacDV that my wife uses at home
      for iPhoto, iMovie, wordprocessing, and email, I am definitely
      considering it. Try to be a little more open minded!
      rwmoore
      • trying to be more open minded

        I do try, but as a 'power user' I could not live with less than 80GB. As more things go to digital more storage is required. As digital gets higher res, more storage is required. I shoot with and 8.2MP camera and often come back with 4 or 5 1GB cards of images to work with. It won't cut it for me. Plus the odd games I play (I know that isn't a problem for most of you) like Halo have a 2GB installation. My Media Center PC has a 160GB hd and most of the time has around 10GB free.
        wolfman@...
      • Of course ...

        I have used all kinds of graphics programs successfully with far less RAM. 64MB of RAM worked fine for me for graphics stuff for years. Now I have 512MB. Big deal! Now things go a little faster and a little cleaner. But for the guy who can only afford a Mini, with a little creativity, he will get a lot of miles out of it. And he shouldn't be paying a whole lot of attention to arrogant fools who loudly proclaim that you need the latest and the greatest to accomplish anything in life. And as far as the hard drive goes, you can get quite a few clips on 20GB in raw DV, let alone 40GB. This guy is just full of FUD and full of himself. Don't pay attention to him.
        George Mitchell
        • FUD Huh?

          >>you can get quite a few clips

          how big do call a clip?
          wolfman@...
  • Detractors are out in force

    Some folks will never be satisfied. Detractors insist that Apple must come out with a dual processor G5 that must be faster than a Quad Xeon server, shovel in 1 terabyte of disk space, 2 gigabytes of RAM, have 20 USB and firewire ports and sell for $199. Then of course the software package must be a complete suite.

    Have we forgot that a PC nickle and dimes you to death? You pay for the OS, you pay for the software suite, you pay and pay and by the time you get a decent system, its already $800+, plus you won't find a PC in a sandwich sized box. The Mini-ITX PC's use horrifically slow VIA Eden processors which can barely play a DVD movie much less edit video.

    Apple is giving you a computer for the price of a high end iPod. Thats a pretty good deal.
    savagesteve13
    • Reasonable readers will read between the lines ...

      I am a Linux user, not a Mac zeolot, but I know a great product when I see one, and the Mini is a great product with great value for the price. People like wolfman224 have what might be politely labeled 'an agenda', and that will be obvious to all but the most confused readers. He is deliberately rating a $500 Mac product against a much more costly Windows product. Good video processing doesn't come cheap. I have been editing and rendering video with a 2.8Ghz P4 machine, and even with Linux, it doesn't come cheap. The fact that a $500 machine can even DO video off the shelf is pretty amazing in and of itself. And if one would spend on a Mac the amount that people like wolfman224 have spent on their PCs, they could probably do pretty well at editing video. wolfman224 just has it in for Apple, and that becomes fairly clear when you read all of his posts in context.
      George Mitchell
      • you speak with tied and forked tongue

        >>And if one would spend on a Mac the amount that people like wolfman224 have spent on their PCs, they could probably do pretty well at editing video.

        Reality check - this morning I went check out your statement in the lab. I fired up the WinterGreen (stock CHEAP PC) fired up Movie Maker, fired up Movie Plus. Did some 2video/3audio with transitions and effects editing - burned to CD and felt very proud of myself. Went to Apple's web site looked at what I could get for the price of the Wintergreen.... NADA, Zilch, Nothing the Wintergreen only cost $379. Please stop trying to BS your love of Apple to other people, some of us have been in the industry long enough to know the truth....
        wolfman@...