David explains why DRM is CRAP

David explains why DRM is CRAP

Summary: Video: David goes to the whiteboard to explain why digital rights management (DRM) is a load of CRAP-- Content, Restriction, Annulment, and Protection. Why does he think this technology is crap?

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davidwhiteboard.jpgVideo: David goes to the whiteboard to explain why digital rights management (DRM) is a load of CRAP-- Content, Restriction, Annulment, and Protection. Why does he think this technology is crap? Once you've bought music or other content to play on one device, it won't play on any other device because of the proprietary layer of CRAP.

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  • Uh, why are my choices of players to watch

    your video only RealPlayer or Media Center? Shouldn't I have a choice to use whatever player I want or am I locked into your choices? :)
    ordaj@...
    • There is a difference between taking away, and providing options

      [i]Uh, why are my choices of players to watch
      your video only RealPlayer or Media Center? Shouldn't I have a choice to use whatever player I want or am I locked into your choices?[/i]

      The problem is that streaming media originated as proprietary technologies, and actually represent an expansion of media options, from no mainstream streaming media to proprietary ones. DRM supplied content is somewhat different. Here content owners and their DRM benefactors are trying to move the consumer from playing his media on a whole range of players, to only a few; and more than that: they are trying to impose the greatest level of restrictions and policing in the digital media market, that has ever been imposed on any consumer market, ever.
      P. Douglas
    • clueless

      What does your point have to do with DRM?
      Get a clue.
      sokushi jonez
      • David's video is protected by DRM

        Windows will not alow me to save this video without hacking my system. Sweet irony.

        PD
        spamhead@...
  • Hear! Hear! (NT)

    .
    P. Douglas
  • Yes - And I am one less customer

    Exactly, I'm just missing the T-shirt!

    I have made a deal with myself on this whole topic. I own several hunder CDs and I am a huge music fan. I would rather purchase downloads but I have been burned by DRM. I have decided that I will not own any music with DRM. If that means I'm finished collecting music, so be it. I like the classics anyway and I own most of them. I won't even buy CDs anymore because of Sony's fiasco. And by the way, Sony, I won't be buying any of your products again - ever!
    Guy0510
    • I'll second your comments . . .

      Guy,

      You summed up my own personal feelings exactly! I'm voting with my wallet - no more Sony ANYTHING, no CDs with any form of DRM, and no downloads with it either. AND no iTunes or any other Apple software either. I'm gone through all 3 of my machines and killed the DRM on all of them (no easy feat - meant a lot of registry hacking and butting heads with Windows File Protection, but it CAN be done).

      If the RIAA wants to know why they aren't selling CDs, all they have to do is look in their own catalogs and look at the garbage they are trying to peddle - same goes for the MPAA and the output from Hollyweird.

      The almighty $$ is the only thing those folks understand - hit them in the wallet and they WILL see the light (or the execs. will be in a homeless shelter near you :)
      bowenw@...
      • I THIRD that!!! In addition to the reasons you both give:

        World Intellectual Property Organization = ROOT of World Wide DRM EVIL!!!

        http://www.wipo.int/portal/index.html.en

        ...Part of "The New World Order"

        Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) In USA

        http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf 'DMCA'

        http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/5922440

        Felten and Halderman on DRM: III Lessons for the future - http://p2pnet.net/story/7777

        IF any of the links don't work try copying and pasting them. ;)

        http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/27/dmca_takedown_regs_abused

        http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2395

        http://www.openrightsgroup.org/orgwiki/index.php/Fair_but_Wrong

        http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=939

        READ this one: http://p2pnet.net/story/7602

        Us 'little guys' can only BOYCOTT all members of THESE organizations in the mean time:

        The RIAA:

        http://www.riaa.com/about/members/default.asp

        Cruise that site thoroughly and find out what the RIAA REALLY are about!!! Along with their member list(s), pay close attention to the physical address given on the page where 'you' can ''Join the RIAA''.

        NOTE: http://p2pnet.net/story/7857 <RIAA uses 'verbal shell game' in court

        Sloppy RIAA 'investigation' attacked: http://p2pnet.net/story/7850

        The MPAA/MPA:

        http://www.mpaa.org

        Do the same with the MPAA/MPA site as you did with the RIAA site. ;)

        EDUCATION/KNOWLEDGE is power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        THEN go and actually join the EFF:

        http://www.eff.org/

        to help fight the RIAA.

        These sites will also be of interest to those who want the RIAA, and those like them, brought down:

        http://www.anti-dmca.org/

        http://FreeCulture.org

        http://www.ricoact.com/

        http://sys-con.com/read/175938.htm

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7802

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7780

        http://p2pnet.net/story/6489

        RIAA RICO case hearing February 27 - http://p2pnet.net/story/7767

        Brittany Chan, a 14 year old targeted by RIAA:

        http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=slv2-&ei=UTF-8&p=Britanny%20Chan

        About Patti Santangelo, the working mom of five kids being targeted by the RIAA:

        http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=slv2-&ei=UTF-8&p=Patti%20Santangelo

        How to HELP her:

        Join the p2net 'community' and donate to her cause. FIRST the RIAA tries ripping her off then her 'lawyer' does, leaving her destitute and still fighting ALONE! She's but one of THOUSANDS targeted by the RIAA...including MINORS! But SHE is the ONLY one so far to stand up to them!!!

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7467

        Update: http://p2pnet.net/story/7839

        If you can't contribute there then pass all this info along to all you can any way you can. Thanks @;}-

        Another RIAA victim says, "NO!"

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7671

        And yet OTHERS:

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7742

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7752

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7742

        Now, THESE are just plain waaaay toooo 'INTERESTING'!!!!!:::

        Hollywood Broadway bust With help from the NYPD - http://p2pnet.net/story/7768

        Sony BMG guilty in copyright case Lil' Flip's Undaground Legend - http://p2pnet.net/story/7773

        http://www.sonybmg.com/labels.html

        DRM in other countries:

        http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11369

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7758

        http://p2pnet.net/story/7763

        http://dooooooom.blogspot.com/2006/01/drm-go-go.html

        P.S.: p2pnet recently changed servers. IF you have problems getting to their site that could be one reason. Another reason is that your network could be "locked out" of their site somehow so keep trying or try from another computer/network if you are TRULY interested in their articles. Their MAIN URL is:

        http://p2pnet.net/index.php
        Betelgeuse58
      • I totally agree

        with your sentiments and decision. If any CD or DVD that I want to buy contains DRM CRAP in any shape or form, then it will stay in the shop, whether it is online, or one that I have gone into. The same goes for Sony and any other hardware manufacturer that wants to or has already gone down the same road. Like you, I also enjoy my music, and I am not going to let some corporation like Apple or Sony tell me that I can listen to my favourite songs on only one device in my home, without buying multiple licences. Neither do I like the suggestion that all CD's and DVD's should have a special tax put on them for the Artist's, Recording and Distribution Companies to compensate them for the illegal copying that they expect to take place, and for the sales that they claim that they have lost or will lose as a result. I will only be using DVD's and CD's for backup purposes, and so shouldn't have to pay for a feature that I will not be using!


        Daniel Clarkson
        (RealAusTech)
        RealAusTech
    • Forth that motion

      I forth that motion and my friends and family fifth thru at least seventeenth that motion. No more DRM CRAP for us. CD's, Movies, nothing. I also own bunches of cd's with no crap on them, more than I need actually. I had them all copied to my hard drive and used my computer as a jukebox. Then I got a-hold of a DRM'd cd (wasn't the Sony Rootkit, but another one that several of the companies had been putting out for over a year) I found out. Screwed my computer up big time, couldn't play my old cd's any more, and froze up every time I tried to play, move, rename, or even delete one of them. They're still sitting there, worthless, just taking up space until I reformat. Of course I have them on another hard drive on another computer now, but that's a hell of a lot work copying them all again. I wish everyone could have an experience like mine. THAT WOULD SETTLE THE DRM CRAP REAL FAST. I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM BRAG ABOUT HOW GOOD DRM IS THEN, AND HOW IT HELPS THE PORE OLE RIAA STOP PIRACY. If anything, it's made a pirate out of me. I think I would seriously consider TAKING (I DON'T CONSIDER IT STEALING AFTER THE GRIEF THEY'VE CAUSED ME WHEN I NEVER STOLE ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THEM TO BEGIN WITH) anything I could get from them or in spite of them.
      Also, no more Micro-Crap for me. I'm using the last Micro-Crap my dollars will ever see, until it becomes completely broken and absolutely useless to anyone. I don't update it anymore either. All any of their updates or patches do is give THEM more control over MY computer.
      I never fell for any of the Apple-Sap Crap to begin with, so up their buzuku too.
      BRAVO DAVE! KEEP BEATING THE DRUM. IF YOU GET EVEN ONE IDIOT TO SEE THE LIGHT THAT'S ONE LESS CUSTOMER FOR THE THEIVES.
      Ole Man
  • and add iTunes to that

    i downloaded and paid for several i tunes movies

    they were aplle drm protected

    cant use them on dvds that i can make and use on my tv...only play on computer


    not what i planned

    on line activation, drm, copy protection --who are you kidding, if i wanted to be crooked, i could get cracks on the internet 24 hour after new protection is released....but no, i try to play by the rules. \\what do i get for it -- screwed

    now...if its copy protected, my money stays in my pocket
    hilcadia
    • Ummm He did...

      iTunes is part of Apple...
      Wolfie2K3
  • Screw 'em back!

    This is all so ridiculous -- it's reminiscent of the "Home Video Recording" fiasco when VCRs first sprang up. The best solution was to incorporate a royalty in the sales price of all recording devices, thereby giving the studios (and presumably the artists) due compensation for their musical efforts. But, in their effort to control every aspect of everything musical, the RIAA and studios are traveling down the dead-end road of DRM. In their haste, they have apparently forgotten who is on the other side of the "digital" revolution -- geeks. Geeks love to write code, love to tinker, love a challenge (such as de-DRM-ing). No matter what the DRM technology nor how much it advances, some geek will un-do it. That's fine -- that's where I am. I will un-encrypt and copy and use whatever content I purchase (digital or otherwise) on whatever devices I want to enjoy it on. I paid for it -- no one is going to tell me I can only listen to it on my iPod and not my Rio. If someone at the RIAA wants to take issue with that, come get me -- but, they had better bring a heck of a lot of buses, because I have a lot of company.

    Of course, it would probably be more cost-effective for the music industry to go the "royalty" route. But, who said these guys are that smart??
    gymnastguy
  • P2P

    This just forces people to illegaly download thier music & videos that someone else has cracked and upload them to any device they want.
    Ginge
    • Rip/burn

      At least music CD's are not region protected like DVD's. I can atleast go to amazon.com or some other online cd store and buy a plastic disc and have it shipped to me, I then rip it as soon as I open it and I can play it on any device I own, my car, my phone, my xbox, any of my PC's in the house.
      I've only ever used iTunes to preview new artists or songs, then buy somewhere else as I dont have an iPod and I don't want to have to use iTunes to play my music.
      chromeronin
      • There's a problem with that theory...

        [b]At least music CD's are not region protected like DVD's. I can atleast go to amazon.com or some other online cd store and buy a plastic disc and have it shipped to me, I then rip it as soon as I open it and I can play it on any device I own, my car, my phone, my xbox, any of my PC's in the house.[/b]

        That option seems to be going the way of the Dodo... Just think back a few months ago with the Sony fiasco - CDs are being polluted with DRM technology. Sony's NOT the only one who's using various DRM tools to prevent exactly THAT kind of thing. EMI and other studios are working on their own implementations.
        Wolfie2K3
        • AnyDVD

          So therefore get AnyDVD from Slysoft and see the music CD protections vaporize. Same goes for some DVD protections. It also let you play DVD from any Zone if your DVD have software that is zonefree.
          GenRabbit@...
  • DRM/RIAA/MPAA=DOA

    What is interesting is that these people trample over FAIR USE rights you have for EXISTING media.

    We need to eliminate the growth of the middlemen and get back to compensating the artiste DIRECTLY
    Good Music = Good Income. Bad Music = NO Income.

    " There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute or common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back."

    * Life Line, 1939
    Robert Anson Heinlein

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay
    Old Timer 8080
    • Absolutely! Heinlein is CORRECT!

      My hackles get downright rigid when I see the acronym RIAA. A bunch leeches, if ever I saw any. They are going to litigate themselves right out of any income if they keep going with their vendetta. I'd like to see a class action blow them right out of existence, but don't think that's very likely.

      However, if they keep trying to lock down "content" as tightly as they want, I believe enough people will stop buying that content that they will be severely hurt, and hopefully, the "artistes" will tell the bloodsuckers to take a hike! IMHO.
      dwdsr