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Designers build portfolios, maybe land jobs at 99 Designs

By | August 17, 2009, 3:15am PDT

At a family event over the weekend, I spent some time chatting with a cousin who just graduated from high school but isn’t sure what he wants to do next. He’s enrolled for some classes at a community college and has bigger dreams of a career in child psychology. But, in the meantime, he’d like to do something with a hobby - graphic design.

Winning entry - Credit: 99 Designs

He does good work but isn’t sure how to turn that into paying job down the road. What he really needs is to build a portfolio and some references. Enter 99 Designs - a startup that acts as a middleman between designers and the people who need them.

In a nutshell, here’s how it works: Person A needs a design - maybe a company logo, an event flyer, a Web site. He goes to 99 Designs and submits his design request, along with his budget. Person B - maybe a young kid who is trying to be recognized for his work but has no idea how to go about finding design jobs - surfs 99 Designs and spots the request.

Person B - and anyone else for that matter - does the design work and submits it as a contender. Person A starts receiving dozens of design proposals and picks the one he likes best. The designer makes some money for his work, a reference and - who knows? - maybe even another job from this guy down the road.

Here’s the thing: The designer whose work was selected wasn’t Person B. Person B spent time working on a design - but, for what? Well, it’s a nice start to a portfolio, isn’t it?

In the end, 99 Designs - for a listing fee and a percentage of the transaction - created a marketplace where 1) the design seeker was given a number of choices, 2) at least one designer landed a few bucks for his work and 3) other designers have another design for the portfolio. For the designers, it’s an opportunity to have his/her work judged on its merits - not on the designer’s resume and regardless of age, training, location and so on. The company says it sees about 43,000 designers working on 450 projects per week,

For the players involved, it seems like a win-win situation.

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RE: Designers build portfolios, maybe land jobs at 99 Designs
Peter110 Updated - 30th Sep 2009
I saw that 99ers logo design packages are mentioned in the top logo designers rating chart of Company Logos and logo design guru is in 1st position in that rating. It is Grand opening from company logos for giving advising to their customer. I?ve been noticing a increase in pricing around the world wide but company logos? Logo and web designer at same prices and it gives me happiness a little. The economy is going up these days, and there is so much competition in the United State of America. I?ve been advising to my designers that they search for work more and more. I applied as a freelancer at Company Logos SEO department.

Peter Designs is a logo design located in Bali Indonesia, We are giving grand services such as: Logo Design / Corporate Identity, Website Design, Website maintenance, E-commerce, Graphic Design, image cropping or background cleaner, convert bitmaps to vector graphic, photo editing, illustrator, brochure design, stationery design as well as printing.

For more information visit http://www.companylogos.ws/
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Culture of cheap cr@p
Lunatic59 17th Aug 2009
...at least one designer landed a few bucks for his work and 3) other designers have another design for the portfolio.

It's exploitation as far as I'm concerned. Graphic design ... at least good graphic design ... is not a hobby some kid does when he runs out of things to tweet. It is a profession and a discipline.

This kind of thing gets gullible and hopeful amateurs to think they can just waltz into a career with the compansation of a "portfolio". This is spec work that no established designer should participate in beyond a proposal.

Walk into a restaurant and ask the chefs to prepare several entrees for you because you are hungry and you'll pay for the one you like. The others? they have a new recipe. Yeah, they'll fall over backwards to do that for you.
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This is a horrible idea
PSJalltheway 17th Aug 2009
How exactly is this is a blog post and not an advertisement?

Spec work is bad for designers and the design industry, and is bad for clients too! Check out the facts at NOSPEC.com.
Sam,

If you were on trial for a crime would you ask 99 attorneys to post their proposed defense of your case to a web site so you could pick what you felt was the best?

Of course you wouldn't, because that's not just ridiculous, it's flatly stupid.

There is no difference between that and the "service" being offered by this web site.

Spec work is exploitative and unethical. If your justification for this shameful practice is that "you'll at least have something to show in your portfolio," then you don't have a functional understanding of the design industry or the purpose of a professional portfolio.

Design is a capital investment for a business, not an expense. Developing effective design requires a creative process that involves time, strategy and client collaboration. Generating work without going through this process renders generic results that do not appropriately address client needs. At best, you end up with something that satisfies the mere common denominator of base functionality.

Your logo is the iconic representation of your business. It's how consumers will visually recognize your brand in a cluttered market. You think developing the cornerstone of your visual identity is in good hands when it's being done by amateur high school level talent? Cutting corners on creative to save a few dollars up front will cost you a lot more in the long run. Doing it shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the important role of design and branding in business success. Frankly, if you don't get that, and if you think getting a logo through this process is a good idea, then your business is probably destined for failure anyway.

If you love your cousin, don't give him any more career advice about an industry you seem to know nothing about.
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Feeling a little pressure?
Niffy_z 17th Aug 2009
Ken.... how is somebody going to build a portfolio if they cant even get a foothold because there is a closed shop? I actually think this is a win-win.... a businessman gets to choose a logo from different selections and the kid can at least put it in as a starter for a portfolio and make a few bucks. Maybe there is a genius out there who couldnt get a look in through the industry.

Why pay a vast fortune for a 'professional' to create a logo if you are jut starting up, money is tight etc.

As a small business owner I wish i had tis option open to me..

Cheers
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Cutting corners is not frugal
Lunatic59 17th Aug 2009
Contrary to popular belief, you don't take a
kid with talent and give him/her Adobe CS4 and
boom, instant designer. To be successful in a
highly competitive and subjective field
requires understanding, education and
persistence. These kinds of "opportunities" are
strictly for the sake of exploiting the naive.
The "businessman" hopes to get a functional
design on the cheap and the designer gets a
token fee ... only the winner, that is. The
rest get bupkis. Granted a startup doesn't need
to be hiring BBDO, but a professional image is
even more critical to a business with no
history. Buying generic clipart [which is
really all they'll get] is a disservice to
everyone involved.

The argument for portfolio pieces is
ridiculous. I would be so impressed reviewing a
portfolio of the design that lost ... not.
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No pressure. Common sense.
wiser_designer 14th Sep 2009
"How is someone going to build a portfolio..."

Simple. Open up a copy of photoshop. Create some designs. Invest a whopping $8 at GoDaddy for a domain and webspace and upload your brilliantly designed website. No need to get ripped off at 99 Designs to build a portfolio.

I don't design logos. I have a strategic partnership with a BRILLIANT lady that I refer all of my logo design work to. She charges a 'vast fortune' of $400, $700 for a complete package - logo + stationary.

The reason you should pay a 'vast fortune' to have a professional create the brand for your business is because they know their job, and you don't. There is more to it than crayons and a piece of paper. Major corporations don't spend billions on branding because they are rich now. They spent the money all along, because they knew they needed to have the right image to BECOME major corporations.

You know that 280 pound, really hairy guy walking around the beach in Speedos? He thinks he looks great, but really everyone is laughing at him. That guy is your business - with an "affordable" logo.
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I respectfully disagree...
SamDiaz 17th Aug 2009
I went to school for a degree in journalism. I did summer internships at newspapers and chased the cops on nights and weekend shifts. I clawed my way into good beats based on years of refining my writing style and reporting skills.

And yet, overnight, untrained bloggers with some free software and an opinion jumped in and forever altered mainstream journalism.

Times change, pal. I could be bitter about it or just recognize that times change, business models change, approaches to hiring change. Too many industries - music, movies and newspapers immediately come to mind - tried desperately to slow down the innovation that would hurt long-standing business models. They buried their heads in the sand and called their lawyers to stop the innovation - but, alas, those approaches didn't work.

I'm sorry for graphic designers who now suddenly feel threatened by an Internet model that will come in and disrupt a long-standing (and dare I say STALE) business model.

Just as I tell young aspiring writers to blog so that they can polish their writing skills - even if they don't get paid for it - I have no regrets about telling my younger cousin about 99 Designs (or any other site) as another way of being recognized.

I will not apologize for that.
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So are you saying ...
Lunatic59 17th Aug 2009
That writing is better or worse than it used to be? There certainly is a lot more noise to have to cut through, and bloggers are notoriously lacking in editors skills.

FWIW, I didn't read a whole lot of respect in that reply.
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My reply...
SamDiaz Updated - 17th Aug 2009
Well, I'm sorry you don't respect the reply but it is what it is.

Personally, I think journalism has suffered because of the entry of bloggers - the art of journalism, that is. However, I think that the public has become far more engaged in topics that interest them because of the blogosphere.

I take issue with bloggers who don't know the difference between there, their and they're and don't know how to use a comma. There's no excuse. But in the end, have they shared information about a topic of interest? Yes. That doesn't excuse the poor grammar - but the message was still heard.

So does that mean things are better or worse? I would say that things are just... DIFFERENT.
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Not quite
Lunatic59 17th Aug 2009
I didn't say that I didn't respect the reply, just that I didn't read a lot of respect in it. It sounded rather condescending, actually. I fear much of the acrimony comes from blogging and the protection anonymity provides. Had we been chatting in a Starbucks over a couple of lattes or in a pub knocking back a pint or two, I daresay the conversation would be different ... but, as always, I digress.

However, I think that the public has become far more engaged in topics that interest them because of the blogosphere.

True enough, however, I have found that not only the quality of the presented information has suffered, but the level of noise has grown to the point of completely obscuring the pearl in a box of marbles.

There is a concept called clipping, as it relates to the world of sound. The noise level will reach a point as to not only obscure the original sound but shut down hearing entirely. Unlike overfilling a bucket with water, where no matter how many gallons overflow the bucket you still have a bucket of water, it is more akin to filling a balloon with too much air ... it will eventually pop leaving nothing. Many people are already at the saturation point leaving no room for expansion.

(From your previous reply) "I'm sorry for graphic designers who now suddenly feel threatened by an Internet model ..."

In truth I feel sorry for the business owners who have to rely on the inexperienced and uneducated for critical business advice. And have so much noise in the "design channel" as not being able to discern the difference between good and good enough.

Spec has always been a problem, it's not new to the internet, just as fraud and "get rich quick" schemes are not new to email. It simply takes it to a wider audience.
i want to know what stops the client from ripping off the other designers who submitted their work, but were not selected. ideas are worth something. even if the client has to pay his personal lackey to bring something up to a full-resolution, they've still effectively stolen the design concept.
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Most likely...
Lunatic59 17th Aug 2009
the designers relinquish some or all of the
copyright upon submission for the "privilege" of
participating, giving 99 Designs the freedom to
use them indiscriminately in the future. At least
that's the way most of these kinds of things work.
Designers who submit retain 100% ownership of their designs...unless it is chosen by the project holder...at which time the designer transfers the copyright of the design to the project holder.
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@SpecWatch
PaulRodrigues 18th Aug 2009
Hi Sam,

I wonder if you've seen what SpecWatch has been uncovering about sites like 99designs / Crowdspring etc.

http://www.twitter.com/SpecWatch

http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/07/interview-with-specwatch-the-naked-truth-about-design-contests/

Even if you are just recommending 99designs to kids with a copy of Adobe software, it's still not a good use of their time.
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A Writing Contest. Guaranteed Prize!
wiser_designer 14th Sep 2009
I'm starting a contest for writers, right here on this article. Sam, I know you'll participate, since you are in favor of this 'new business approach'.

The contest winner gets $150. It would actually be $220, but after the fees that I will pocket myself (since 99 Designs isn't running the contest and taking out their cut) it will be a respectable $150.

The contest will run until I have 50 entries, since the ratio of prize money to contests is $3/per (as per 99designs' own website as of this date: $6.7 million awarded for 2.6 million design submissions). $3 is a fair amount for your time and effort, Sam.

Then, after I've gotten 50 submissions, I will cancel the contest, and pocket all of my money, and have a nice cache of ideas to write the article myself. Oh, you want to sue me for plagiarism for the line I took out of your article? Sorry. The proof is gone, because when I withdrew my contest, all of the entries submitted online are removed.

I, an actual designer that has participated at 99designs so I have a first hand knowledge of how it really works, and not just a glancing view from the outside, have had to sue a contest holder because he took a design of mine and used it for his website - without paying me.

I am currently in a dispute with 99 designs, because a GUARANTEED contest was canceled by the contest holder, and the money was not paid to the designers. 99 Design's own site clearly states that guaranteed contests cannot be withdrawn. If no winner is chosen 14 days after the close of the contest, the money is divided among the participants. 99 Designs has - at least in this one instance - decided to pocket that money themselves instead.

There is a significant difference between changing business models and fraud. Yes, the music industry has had to adapt to the way they sell music. That doesn't change the fact that stealing music is a crime, anymore now than it was before the invention of the internet and entities like Napster.

Here's better advice for your cousin. Build some designs. Share them with friends. Make an online portfolio. Go to Myspace and meet other designers that don't have his skills, who might end up with a client that needs what your cousin does. Do a gig poster for a local band with no cash - that might someday become a big band with LOTS of cash. If he's going to waste his time working for free, he might as well get some real-world exposure for it - and then it's not wasted, it's INVESTED. Chasing police cars is more profitable long term than chasing windmills.

Telling a designer that 99 designs is a good way to get constructive feedback on their work is very dangerous. Contest holders are mostly people not remotely skilled or trained in design. Some very ugly winners have come out of 99 designs. And some highly skilled designers have below average win rates. Your cousin might end up with very bad ideas about his work, and then take those to a client who actually knows better - and lose the job because of it.

The IDEA of crowd sourcing is a good one. But because of the underhanded practices of designers, contest holders, and companies like 99designs (crowdSpring is a better choice, if you MUST get into crowdsource work), the Utopian idea is a lot prettier than the actual place.

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I saw that 99ers logo design packages are mentioned in the top logo designers rating chart of Company Logos and logo design guru is in 1st position in that rating. It is Grand opening from company logos for giving advising to their customer. I?ve been noticing a increase in pricing around the world wide but company logos? Logo and web designer at same prices and it gives me happiness a little. The economy is going up these days, and there is so much competition in the United State of America. I?ve been advising to my designers that they search for work more and more. I applied as a freelancer at Company Logos SEO department.

Peter Designs is a logo design located in Bali Indonesia, We are giving grand services such as: Logo Design / Corporate Identity, Website Design, Website maintenance, E-commerce, Graphic Design, image cropping or background cleaner, convert bitmaps to vector graphic, photo editing, illustrator, brochure design, stationery design as well as printing.

For more information visit http://www.companylogos.ws/

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