Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

Summary: A panel discusses how Apple's iPad could bring back long-form journalism because of its design.

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At the Summit at Stanford in Palo Alto, Calif., Tony Perkins, founder of AlwaysOn, moderates a discussion about the state of journalism in the Digital Age with Michael Arrington of TechCrunch, Quentin Hardy of Forbes, and Robert Scoble of Scobelizer. They discuss how Apple's iPad could bring back long-form journalism because of its design.

Topics: Browser, iPad, Mobility

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  • RE: Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

    No, and no. Journalism started dying with television as we need to fit into news clips. Television also broke down the habit of reading (newspapers) and started the advertising shift. With less money to invest in journalists, newspapers had to lower the intellectual level.

    The web, typified by Google, skimmed the newspapers' stories, but the advertising revenues went to Google. Only when Google (and others who do the same) pay back some of their revenues to the originators of the stories, will there be an incentive to keep generating investigative journalism.

    The iPad has little to do with it.
    jorjitop
    • RE: Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

      @jorjitop
      This message has been reported as spam. Almost instantly! Do you guys have a Google filter?
      jorjitop
      • Did you try to edit your post?

        Sometimes when I go back to try and edit mine, it displays "Reported as Spam". It's an error with their posting services.
        The one and only, Cylon Centurion
      • It's NOT reported as spam...

        @jorjitop
        Unless you tried to edit the message. In which case, it's a bug in the software running things around here. Hit Refresh and it should clear up.
        Wolfie2K3
    • RE: Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

      @jorjitop - WELL SAID!!!
      HypnoToad72
  • Journalism died with it's lack of integrity...

    and that was long before the web got here.
    mrlinux
    • RE: Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

      @mrlinux
      Exactly. Journalists killed Journalism.
      jimstead@...
  • The web has revived journalism

    by actually breaking stories instead of acting as propagandists and stenographers for the Democrat party.
    frgough
    • RE: Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

      @frgough - what is that supposed to mean? the Democrats are the most honest and open people in our society. Quit being an angry Republican or worse, a Tea Party member, there is a reason you guys always lose, you are hate filled towards our country.
      Pederson
      • Hmmmm...Always? Just remember always is a long time

        @Pederson In addition the word "Always" along with its friend "never" are typically used by people who either don't know their history or are deliberately ignoring it in an attempt to lend weight to their weak arguments. Please don't insult us with statements like "always lose" when we all know it isn't true. All I have to do is find one election where a Republican won to disprove your argument (though I'm probably being excessively kind calling it an argument rather than a rant).

        The same crowd using "always" and "never" are pretty much the same ones that say "the debate is over!" regarding global warming. Obviously the debate is not over as long as you have at least one person on either side of the issue.

        Then there is "hate" and "haters" and "hate filled" which applies to anyone with an alternative point of view.

        I find it really interesting that the so called "liberals" seem to be the ones who are always (there, I used it too!) out there wanting everything under the sun to be either banned or mandatory.
        cornpie
  • RE: Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

    Journalism has been around for about 110 years. Yes, the newspaper is the modern root, but radio in the 20's 30's altered it, then in the 50's 60's TV came in and adjusted journalism once again. The web is now killing off the long standing influence of TV, but journalism is still there happy and healthy. Now, the iPad has become the next "newspaper, radio, tv, web" combined... journalism is following right behind, the first killer App in a long time is "Flipboard", it is the 5th modern stage of human communication... so hang on tight...
    Pederson
    • Curious why you say 110 years

      @Pederson Encyclopedia Britannica cites forms of journalism going back to the Tang Dynasty in China and ancient Rome in the west. Also, the New York Times has been in continuous publication since 1851 or 159 years; and that's just in the US. How about the times of London that's been in publication since 1785?
      cornpie
  • Journalism cannot be run by journalists

    Journalism is the organizing and advocating of an industry, place or lifestyle. No iPad is necessary. But journalism needs to be run from the business side, first by defining an audience of buyers you bring to sellers, then by organizing the sellers for the buyers, and only lastly by hiring people to write stuff.

    Organize first, organize second, organize last. Advocacy is just the barker outside the circus tent.
    DanaBlankenhorn
    • Lets get our definitions straight

      @DanaBlankenhorn

      This may help: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/journalism
      cornpie
  • RE: Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

    Commercials killed journalism. It's all profit-based !
    TxM2xTx
    • RE: Did the Web kill journalism, and will the iPad bring it back?

      @TxM2xTx
      It does help to think of profit. More to the point: we should think of what the market for journalism is supposed to be and what market incentives will help revive journalism.

      This will sound crazy. I need to omit much for brevity. The market for "real" journalism is self-governance and the citizenry of an individual community. We don't have that any longer because we've changed from a nation of endeavor to a nation of convenience. Transference and mirror neurons control our culture, not intellect.

      The Wall Street Journal succeeds in the journalism market because its content helps its subscribers make or save money. When we can bind tax distributions and policy decisions to the availability and breadth of a community's information ecology and knowledge, we create a market. The incentive is to be informed. One example: when you can get a significant tax credit for demonstrating an ability for self-governance, you will be more willing to pay for ways to develop that ability. In turn, journalists will produce the product that you seek.
      mike.whipple