Education reform dominates PC Forum discussion

Education reform dominates PC Forum discussion

Summary: Following two keynotes, one by Howard Gardner and the other by Andrew Stern, and then Esther Dyson's Q&A with Yahoo's Jerry Yang, education was clearly a hot button amongst the attendees on opening afternoon here at PC Forum.

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Mitch KaporFollowing two keynotes, one by Howard Gardner and the other by Andrew Stern, and then Esther Dyson's Q&A with Yahoo's Jerry Yang, education was clearly a hot button amongst the attendees on opening afternoon here at PC Forum. As the discussion heated up, Mitch Kapor (pictured right) took his turn at the microphone to challenge Esther's Jerry-Andrew-Howard panel to think about how corporate culture must change if parents, who are one cornerstone of their childrens' education, are going to have the time to be that cornerstone. He mentioned the standard 80 hour work week. I thought it was 100. The photo was posted to Flickr where Kapor said the challenge wasn't just to the panel, but to the audience as well.

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  • Standard work week?

    Just curious - how many people really typically work over 50 hours per week? I know everyone in technology sometimes has to work massive hours, but how many people do it week after week after week? How many do it without (officially or unofficially) coverting the excessive overtime in vacation time?

    ZDNet should post a survey, on average, how many hours a week do you work?
    1. < 40 hrs per week
    2. 40-50 hrs per week
    4. 50-60 hrs per week
    5. > 60 hrs per week

    Follow on question: Does your company really expect it, or are you just holding yourself to an unrealistic performance standard?
    Erik1234
    • RE: Standard work week?

      I worked at that huge IT company started by Ross Perot for seven years and can tell you that the majority of the people in my office regularly worked 50 plus hours per week. I took a pay cut to move to a local government job with reasonable hours because I had a ten year old daughter that I never saw. Best decision I ever made, for myself and for my child.
      GrumpyOldMan
    • Survey vs Scientific Study

      While I would like to know the answer to this question as well, a survey posted on ZDNet will only reveal the results of those who participate in it. So a survey could be answered by only people who work overtime thus skewing the results in that direction. Data collection, sampling and use of statistical analysis is what you really want to answer this question. I assume that an answer closer to the truth of the situation could be found thru the Department of Labor, the Census Bureau, and other government and non-government agencies whose job is supposed to provide unbiased statistical analysis. Buyer beware when using those services as well. Anyone who knows how unemployment rate is determined knows that it disregards a key segment of people known as discouraged workers. Pick up an economics textbook for greater explanation of that and other concepts.
      jion
  • Executive Expectations

    I have a friend who works in a non-technical job for a local software development company. I do not plan on ever working for her employer. Why? An e-mail was leaked to the public a while back from the company CEO that was scathingly critical of the employees because he felt there weren't enough cars filling the parking lot on Saturdays. In other words he expects his employees, the majority of whom are salaried based on a 40 hour week to work at least six days a week. Not me, not on a steady basis which is what he wanted.
    JimSatterfieldW
  • I think he meant

    that its 80 hours a week with BOTH wife and husband working. That takes away from child rearing - which is the cornerstone of education. I think GW has the solution! Eliminate 50% of all jobs to offshoring, and then at least ONE person per household can stay at home with the kids . . .
    Roger Ramjet