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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Five reasons why Jobs went anti-DRM now

By | February 7, 2007, 7:09am PST

Summary: As any witness of a Macworld keynote knows Apple CEO Steve Jobs doesn't do much of anything that isn't well scripted and thought out. That strategy and advance preparation is what makes his open letter to the music industry about digital rights management so interesting. Lost amid all the conversation about Jobs' blog one question remains [...]

As any witness of a Macworld keynote knows Apple CEO Steve Jobs doesn't do much of anything that isn't well scripted and thought out.

That strategy and advance preparation is what makes his open letter to the music industry about digital rights management so interesting. Lost amid all the conversation about Jobs' blog one question remains unanswered: Why now?

Jobs' letter comes at a very interesting time. Apple, which has been one of the few companies to make DRM easy enough for consumer adoption, arguably has benefited the most from DRM schemes. It has a critical mass and can dictate pricing to the music industry. So why would Jobs suddenly go anti-DRM?

Here are a few plausible reasons:

1. No DRM means no lawsuits. Apple is increasingly under fire at home and abroad over iTunes' DRM strategy. If DRM goes away so do most if not all of the legal hassles facing Apple, which has to fend off lawsuits in the U.S. and regulators in Europe. The chain of events: DRM disappears. Then regulators in Europe have nothing to complain about. In the U.S. questionable class action suits become moot.

2. If DRM remains Apple owns the standard. Jobs' discussion of licensing Apple's FairPlay DRM technology in his post serves two purposes. It opens up the door to potentially licensing FairPlay while still arguing against DRM. No matter what happens to DRM Apple wins. If FairPlay is licensed Apple gets another revenue stream and the music industry standard just based on the iPod's market share. Meanwhile, Jobs can always point to his open letter and say "look we don't want DRM, but since the music industry still wants it we'll license you our technology." Tom Krazit's report walks through the licensing scenarios with FairPlay and the limitations.

3. Apple's critical mass makes the anti-DRM argument low risk. Jason Calacanis notes that Jobs is back from the dark side and is shooting a shot across the music industry's bow. Richard MacManus calls Jobs' letter propaganda. The reality is in the middle leaning toward MacManus' take: Jobs can boost Apple's image by coming out against DRM without much risk. When Apple didn't have critical mass in music, Jobs played along with the music industry. Now Apple is dominant and Jobs has leverage he can generate marketing and financial upside by prodding the music industry to drop DRM. It's a win, win, win for Apple.

4. The music industry is ready to go without DRM. Jobs wouldn't pen his open letter if the music industry wasn't at least a little receptive. Some folks will scoff at the idea that the music industry will go DRM free. But the music industry has become much more experimental with its business models. However, that's just a small reason the music industry is receptive to dropping DRM. The biggest reason: The music industry needs to erode Jobs' leverage and dropping DRM is one way to do it. Imagine if the Zune's Wi-Fi music sharing capability wasn't shackled? Perhaps the Zune looks better. Perhaps it takes some iPod market share. Right now, Jobs runs the music industry. When labels wanted variable pricing Jobs said no. Ditch DRM and maybe just maybe the music industry can control Jobs a bit.

5. The no-DRM genie is already out of the bottle. Apple can't afford to be with DRM-based when labels are already tinkering with licensing MP3 files without it. On MySpace and Yahoo Music labels are licensing songs sans DRM. Jobs obviously realizes that DRM–and perhaps even its FairPlay technology–will become a handicap and is getting in front of the issue.

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RE: Five reasons why Jobs went anti-DRM now
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Mr. Jobs wants DRM, of course.
Anton Philidor 7th Feb 2007
Part of maintaining Apple's market share.

The reasons for making the statement are obvious:

- Appeal to the anti-DRM crowd

- Reminder to the Europeans that Apple is not responsible for the existence of DRM

- Preparation for licensing FairPlay by demand. Which is also a counter to Zune.

PR and strategic thinking. Not unusual. If half the planning went into producing a cheaper Mac...
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No he doesn't and neither do we the consumer!
Linux User 147560 7th Feb 2007
Good grief Anton, are you nuts? DRM is below bile for value to the consumer. And it's the consumer that Jobs wants, and if giving the consumer what they want (i.e. NO DRM MUSIC for sale!) then that is what he wants to give us!

I don't have a problem paying a reasonable price for a song or even a complete album. BUT when I buy that, it's mine and I don't want some corporation telling ME where and when I can listen to what I paid for! DRM does that and there are plenty of examples of it doing so.

I think you been hit in the noggin dude... devil
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Apple's DRM helps Apple...
Anton Philidor 7th Feb 2007
... in the market. If Apple lost its DRM exclusivity, the commercial consequences would be negative.

As a confirmation, when governments in Europe started considering laws to weaken DRM, did Mr. Jobs say, Good, pass 'em, we'll be pleased to comply, and about time!

No, Mr. Jobs began a careful campaign to keep DRM, including a statement that he disapproves of it.

You're right, but what you're saying about DRM does not help Apple's profits.
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Like the European countries, you're attacking the wrong thing. If Jobs HAD said, "Good, pass 'em, we'll be pleased to comply, and about time!", the companies he gets his music from would say, "Whoa, Stevie, we told you it's DRM or nothing". And the iTunes Store ends up with nothing to sell as the content providers pull out.

If these European companies are really serious about ending DRM (instead of just currying favor with the unwashed masses by going up against a Big, Bad company from the Big, Bad USA), they should be threatening to sue the content providers instead of the reseller (who is just following the best terms he could get from the providers).

But, as Jobs correctly pointed out, the big 4 music companies are largely controlled by European conglomorates, so of course European govts won't go after them. The loser is the consumer these silly laws are supposed to protect.
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Does the iPod really need the lock-in?
tic swayback 7th Feb 2007
---Part of maintaining Apple's market share---

Here's the obvious question--we all talk about Apple's insidious lock-in technique here. But a lot of that talk is about potential and possibilities. What I'm curious, is how much does the iPod really benefit from the lock-in? Given that only a tiny percentage of music sales are from iTunes, and that only a tiny, tiny percentage of music on iPods comes from the iTunes store (the vast majority is "stolen", at least according to Steve Ballmer), then how much of a factor is this really? The iPod is a wildly popular product. How many people are really being locked in?
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Impression of exclusivity
Anton Philidor 7th Feb 2007
Like DRM itself, Apple's lock-in doesn't have to be fully effective to have a useful effect.

The iPod (like the Zune) is a very expensive mp3 player that's popular because of its design and, far more important, brilliant management of the brand.

As an example of a bad job of brand management, consider Chrysler's Cruiser. Surpassed in sales of other ugly little cars before it had to be. Steve Jobs has avoided making the mistakes that hurt Chrysler.


The content companies have been trying to prevent internet distribution by excessive licensing costs, among all the other methods to avoid the huge profits they'd receive without effective competition.

So Apple can't be making much from iTunes.

But iTunes is by far the most popular download site.

The success of iTunes is both a reflection of how many iPods have been sold and another social success to identify the product.

iTunes is advertising for iPods for nothing.
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Doesn't really answer my question
tic swayback 7th Feb 2007
---The iPod (like the Zune) is a very expensive mp3 player that's popular because of its design and, far more important, brilliant management of the brand.---

I'd reverse that equation, and put the majority of the credit for success on the device itself. People like it. I don't think one can really claim any sort of "exclusivity" for the brand anymore. They're far too common for anyone to think of them as a status symbol. You can buy an iPod for under $100. They are a commodity, yet they continue to outsell all competing commodities.

Besides, if Apple was really that good with marketing and brands, wouldn't they have a larger share of the computing market by now?

---So Apple can't be making much from iTunes.---

I believe Apple keeps 30 to 35 cents per download. Not sure how much of that goes to overhead. But no, it's not a huge profit center.

---The success of iTunes is both a reflection of how many iPods have been sold and another social success to identify the product.---

I think there's more to it than that. The store is simple to use, which was a lesson most other competitors had to learn. Other stores had (still have) multiple prices for different products, multiple sets of rights (can you burn to a cd or no?). Even the new Zune store has different sets of rights, some songs can be squirted, others are forbidden. This is also a major factor in why the iTunes store is ahead of the pack, despite offering a poorer quality product than many other stores.

---iTunes is advertising for iPods for nothing.---

Agreed here.

But none of that speaks to the question of lock-in, and whether it's really forcing huge numbers of buyers to remain in the iPod camp.
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Technical vs strategic
Anton Philidor 7th Feb 2007
The DRM technical lock-in isn't meaningful, except as an image, a separation from competitors. It's part of the reason Apple can produce an iPod costing less than $100 and still make a claim to exclusivity, not being a commodity.

Strategies are significant, maybe more than the product, and certainly more than any code.


You wrote:

"Besides, if Apple was really that good with marketing and brands, wouldn't they have a larger share of the computing market by now?"

The company has 100% of the Apple market, which is what the company has always wanted, especially when led by Steve Jobs.

If the company wanted more sales of Apple-approved hardware, it would authorize clones, because the prices would consequently be lower.

If the company wanted more sales of Apple software, it would cease to restrict use of the software to Apple's hardware.

You're not defining success as Apple is. Technical (as in total sales) rather than strategic.


You also wrote:

"The store is simple to use, which was a lesson most other competitors had to learn. Other stores had (still have) multiple prices for different products, multiple sets of rights (can you burn to a cd or no?)."

Strategy, branding...



I'm complimenting Apple for what it does well. Which is fulfilling what Steve Jobs wants.

And strategic was well defined for me by a chessplayer who observed, "Strategy is what you do when there's nothing to do."

That which isn't demanded by the market. Discretion.
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tic swayback 7th Feb 2007
Thanks, good thoughts on my question.

---The DRM technical lock-in isn't meaningful, except as an image, a separation from competitors.---

So what I think you're saying, and I agree with, is that although Apples iTunes/iPod lock-in is distasteful, and potentially harmful for consumers, as of now it's much ado about nothing. It's not having any huge effect on the market. I don't think people specifically buy iPods because of the lock-in. I don't think it's a huge factor in iPod sales. If you took away the DRM lock-in, I don't think iPod sales would drop.

---The company has 100% of the Apple market, which is what the company has always wanted, especially when led by Steve Jobs.---

Couldn't what you're saying here be rephrased to refer to the iPod market? Why does one work and the other not as far as garnering marketshare? To wit:


"The company has 100% of the iPod market, which is what the company has always wanted, especially when led by Steve Jobs.

If the company wanted more sales of Apple-approved music players, it would authorize iPod clones, because the prices would consequently be lower.

If the company wanted more sales of iTunes songs, it would cease to restrict use of the software to Apple's hardware."

---Strategy, branding...----

No, it's more than that. It's design, something I think you're too dismissive of. One huge reason why the iPod is so successful is because it's so simple. There are tons of other players with tons more advanced features than the iPod on the market. The key to the iPod is not what was included, but what was removed. The simplicity of the design makes it highly useable. And the same goes for the store--it's the easiest to use, and every other online store seems to have copied themselves after it to some degree. Just calling this "strategy" doesn't get to the heart of the matter. Apple spends huge sums on design, more than most competitors, and clearly (at least in this market), it makes a difference.

---I'm complimenting Apple for what it does well.---

Which is confusing to me--if it's all about branding and marketing, why does it only work for one product and not all of the others that Apple makes, if they do it so well? I think it goes well beyond one factor. Marketing is a part of it, to be sure, but design and the nature of the market and the competition certainly play as large, if not larger roles.
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Sorry, Anton . . .
jlhenry62 7th Feb 2007
Appeal to the Anti-DRM crowd? Possible . . .

Reminder to the Europeans? I'm sure that's part of it . . .

The Zune? THE ZUNE??? iPod sales went UP during the introduction period of the Zune . . . I seriously don't think that Apple is overly worried about MS's attempt to dethrone them . . .

I agree with you about producing a cheaper Mac, though. Heck, I'd like it if they released the OS so I could install it on my current equipment, but we're not likely to see THAT happen, either . . .
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The Zune's DRM, not the Zune itself.
Anton Philidor 7th Feb 2007
Microsoft has different DRM on the Zune from that available elsewhere.

If Apple were to license its DRM, that would assure that Zune DRM could not become the standard.

Sorry, missing word.
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Apple and License?
dave95. 7th Feb 2007
Apple is not interested I don't think in licensing Fairplay (as Jobs pointed out). If that were the case, it would have been done a while back. Besides it's not in the company's genes to license their tech, save that for MS.

I do agree, if they would license Fairplay, you could say goodnight officially to PlaysForSure and Martketplace DRM.
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Ah . . .
jlhenry62 7th Feb 2007
That explains it. Thank you for the correction.
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Reason #6......Steve gets to POSTURE...
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 7th Feb 2007
....and POSE, acting like he's the consumers' pal. It's a sign of a sociopathic nature, to offer something they obviously can't produce, but hey pals...HE'S THINKING OF YOU!
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Spot On!
No_Ax_to_Grind 7th Feb 2007
If you believe this guys line of bull I have some swamp ground you're just going to love...
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The only way...
dwsmith 7th Feb 2007
to know for sure, is if the music industry calls his bluff.
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Would you be so mad at Gates...
IAHawkeye 7th Feb 2007
If he made the same statement?

Oh, and nice one Biff. Swamp ground's about as funny as a screen door on a
battleship. (Yes, I know what I just said, it was for the humor value)


--------------------------------------------
"Fish do fly, people should do research before saying crazy things!"
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IAHawkeye Updated - 7th Feb 2007
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WELL, DUDE...
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 7th Feb 2007
...the story in comment IS about STEVE JOBS isn't it? Did I see Bill Gates mentioned anywhere? And don't insult MORONS by comparing them to me. Ever heard of PROJECTION (PSYCHOLOGY-DEFINITION)?
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Well, I would not want to...
IAHawkeye 7th Feb 2007
post when having a bad day anymore. They just get deleted and make me look
bad.

Meat of my issue: Jobs is doing what any other sane person would do. Trying to
put Apple in the best possible position. I mention Gates because most opinions
are that because M$ recieves so much criticism so should everyone else, or
alternatively if Gates makes a comment like this it's laughed off or ignored. I
guess as a loyal Mac user I feel compelled to respond to something so bunk.

Why am I so compelled to respond to this (your post), even though it amounts to
fighting juvenile conclusions by stooping down a level or two? To be honest I
really don't know. Maybe I just needed something to do. I do know...

Apple has been nothing but good to me, and to it's consumers. The record labels
would love to strap you and everyone else down to only playing media when and
how they want. Apple fought for greater consumer freedoms with it's DRM, and
won.

So why would Steve Jobs do this simply for creating the impression Apple cares, I
think he has better things to do than waste time on that himself. That's a job for
marketing.

And last but not least, I am sorry about my previous rambling. One should never
post during a very bad day.
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No problemo....
Feldwebel Wolfenstool 8th Feb 2007
....I realize that, if I want to DISH IT OUT, then I'd better be prepared to TAKE IT, too.....my #1 Rule, for me, is "Don't Drink and Post"....heheheh.
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"... to offer something they obviously can't produce"

Ummm...I think you went to the wrong article. The above statement OBVIOUSLY is referring to Microsoft!
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Pose? as my friend?
RedpawGraphics 7th Feb 2007
Is that like Bill Gates implying that you are all his sheep and believe the Win OS is
unhackable in the newsweek interview?.

I'd rather have Jobs speaking for me than have a Gates closing my install options on
the new OS that may conflict with the OS.

Yeah Bill is just the friend I need [/sarcasm]
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Re... who's your friend (or daddy)?
qquidd@... 7th Feb 2007
Steve Jobs is! Yeah.. bare yer bottoms to be spanked by Mr. Fancy Pants Jobs. He'll do the job fer ya.
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QQuid Pro Quo?
IAHawkeye 7th Feb 2007
Gates has something he would like to talk to you about. Write him a love letter.
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#6 - He's actually confident that when the product is released sans-DRM that the iPod will still lead the pack.

I also think that Microsoft although may be against DRM, is also for it (just as JOBS is) it keeps people coming back to their proprietary means. Otherwise what would keep me from going to Zune from my current iPod or vice versa?
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This is nothing new / the real reason
tic swayback 7th Feb 2007
Go back and read the interviews Jobs did when the iTunes store launched. He said at the time that DRM will never work and that it's only there because the RIAA demanded it.

Also, there could be a further reason here--rumor has it that the deal with the Beatles eliminates the clause preventing Apple from selling physical copies of music. That means iPods can now be sold with music on them. Here's an article explaining the concept of the iPod as the new cd. If memory prices keep dropping, it could work:
http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,72656-0.html?tw=wn_index_22
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The only problem with that is . . .
jlhenry62 7th Feb 2007
Mr. Jobs doesn't lower the prices on the iPods, for the most part. He just keeps adding stuff to them in order to keep his price point.

I think that everyone is missing the obvious, here. The Music industry may move everything to SD cards, or whatever. That way, they could control the "unauthorized" copying of "their" product. If you look in the childrens parts of the best buy ads (and others) , Disney has come out with a new music player for kids, and is starting to come out with music on SD cards for it. The High School Musical Soundtrack is one of the first ones out . . .


Sounds like they may have found a way around the whole ripping Cd's thing . . .I don't like it, either, but the concept could work, and it would be legal, as long as they provide some way for you to back up the media, or provide a cheap (free) replacement if it fails. I don't know how it will work with the fair use laws, but that's the only hurdle I can see with the concept.
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Some thoughts
tic swayback 7th Feb 2007
The problem is portability. If I buy music, I want to listen to it on my iPod, in my car, on my home stereo, on my computer, at a friend's house, in a rental car, etc. Right now, I can do all of that with a cd. I could also do it with a downloadable non-DRMed file.

If you sold music on iPods, you would need to eliminate the prohibition that stops you from moving music from iPod to computer, then you'd have the same level of freedom as above (assuming no DRM). If you're going to sell music on SD cards as you suggest, again, you can't lock it to the SD card. It has to be portable to different systems in order for it to sell. No one is going to buy a new iPod, a new home stereo, a new computer, a new home theater, a new car stereo, etc., just to hear the new Disney song. It's too expensive an investment for an unproven technology. So, if you can move files easily off the card, then you've got all the same problems you have today with a cd.
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True . . .but - - -
jlhenry62 8th Feb 2007
They're the ones pushing DRM in the first place. Convenience isn't in their vocabulary. And as I know you remember, they fought against cassettes, too, for the same reasons . . .I think they're just fishing for a new way to get their way.


I've always thought they should move to some form of media cards, I just don't want the DRM part.
and quit bagging on anyone who competes against Microsoft. People who think everything should be supplied by a single vendor are just looney. Get rich by diversifying, not by creating illusions that making a single company the uber-god will save the world.
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"Uhhh, right . . ."
jlhenry62 7th Feb 2007
the audience said, while taking a step AWAY from the real Looney . . .
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steps away?
RedpawGraphics 7th Feb 2007
I think we are stepping away form the people who like a single company to stagnate
and release mediocre features claiming they are new to Computer users.

I'll take competition anyday over slumming on the PC.

Why is it that Longhorn failed and now we have Vista being portrayed as new when
all it really is, is Win 2000k in a new dress.
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re: "Steps Away"
jlhenry62 7th Feb 2007
As in, not wanting to be seen as associating with a looney . . .


And that same logic can be applied to Apple also . . .

One ring to rule them all, and all that. Doesn't matter if it's MS OR Apple, one company running the show is bad.

And as far as I can tell, Longhorn didn't "fail". It was a project to upgrade the OS, and MS scaled it back (too far to make it worth my while to upgrade to Vista, BTW). And 2000 is a pretty stable OS, so building off it would have been nice.


BTW, before you try to paint me with the Pro-MS brush, I'm probably going to buy a Mac as my next system (If I can talk the Wife into it . . .), and I'll put Linux on my current systems when XP gets too long in the tooth . . .Right now, it runs, it runs the software my company uses, and I don't have problems with it.
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It makes a lot of sense...
morgande 7th Feb 2007
Like any good strategist, Apple used DRM to its advantage. The iPod reinforces iTunes. iTunes reinforces the iPod. And both the iPod and iTunes exclusively use the same DRM technology: Fairplay.

Using this strategy, Apple vaulted itself to the top of the media player and distribution market. The iPod is the dominant player, and iTunes is the dominant distribution channel for legal media.

Funny thing is, studies show that the majority of music on iPods (and other digial media players) is non-DRM music. That means that the majority of people are ripping CDs or still pirating music. That also means that iTunes as a distribution technology has a lot of market headroom, because the majority of iPod customers aren't using the iTunes store to buy music. The reason why: DRM.

Take into consideration this: Apples biggest competitor is Microsoft. Microsoft was forced to abandon their first strategy of pushing Windows Media as a standard across the digital media spectrum. PlaysForSure was abandoned in favor of Zune, which is nothing more than an iTunes/iPod two punch combo for Microsoft. Of couse, Microsoft has its own DRM with Zune (which is even different then PlaysForSure).

What better way to derail Microsoft then for Apple to push the big music companies to abandon DRM as a requirement as a whole. This can free up the iTunes store so that users who were afraid of DRM can now be free to purchase media without the technological restrictions. The Zune marketplace is built around Microsofts DRM. Without it, the entire system crumbles.

Just as DRM was good for Apple at first, they have reached a point where the iPod/iTunes platform would do better without it. Hence Steve Jobs is making moves...
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Yes and
DemonX 7th Feb 2007
we know how against the proprietary Apple Inc is. For those who don't recognize it thats sarcasm. happy
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DRM is Extortion
stormkrow@... 7th Feb 2007
There are no ifs ands or buts about it DRM is bad for consumers. Period. End of discussion. And Mr. Jobs is doing the right thing by laying one across the bow as far as I'm concerned and it's about time someone with a little bit of clout came forward and said so instead of just lubing up and saying "thanks can I have another". I will NEVER allow any form of DRM in my company EVER. That includes Vista, especially Vista. And that my friends is exactly what will sink the Vista ship. When a consumer buys something they have the right afforded them by law to do whatever they choose with it including making a backup or copy of it. This whole DRM thing has gotten completely out of hand for the good of only the RIAA/MPAA and absolutely no one else. Mark my words; 6 months from now when the class action lawsuits start rolling in on Vista's DRM laden garbage drivers.
"Oh wait you can't watch that movie anywhere you like. You have to buy a copy for every room."
That'll fly.
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Agreed!
chas_2 7th Feb 2007
Excellent points! Common sense has been thrown completely out the window with DRM. The music and movie industries are so hard up for ever-growing revenue streams that the draconian measures they've taken are going to backfire on them.

DRM is like having a dairy farmer sell you milk, and then tell you what kind of glass you can drink it in. Eeediots!
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Steve made his money...........
bgonetoo 7th Feb 2007
Steve has made a lot of money, now it's time to let go and pursue the next great thing!

And make twice as much!
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no thanks!
hillman.d@... 7th Feb 2007
What's old Jobs up to now? Why does everything have to be about an angle with those guys? If this is for real, I'll be happy. I'm not so sure Jobs is being altruistic here. Altruism would be open sourcing OS X. I'm now in my peak earning years but you can bet that I'll never be supporting Apple or Microsoft. Too many good technologies have been pushed to the wayside to line their pockets.
The future belongs to open source and open standards for true inovation. It's too bad the creators of the revolutionary BeOS didn't have that mindset. The fastest and most efficient multimedia OS might've been a lot farther along today.
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Jobs ALREADY was against DRM
DanShockley 7th Feb 2007
Steve Jobs was interviewed in Rolling Stone, December 03, 2003:
"Well, there's a lot of smart people at the music companies. The problem is, they're not technology people... And so when the Internet came along, and Napster came along, they didn't know what to make of it... And so they're fairly vulnerable to people telling them technical solutions will work, when they won't... When we first went to talk to these record companies -- you know, it was a while ago. It took us 18 months. And at first we said: None of this technology that you're talking about's gonna work. We have Ph.D.'s here, that know the stuff cold, and we don't believe it's possible to protect digital content."

So, he was already on record saying that DRM was a bad idea. This is not a change of heart - Apple merely has built itself to a strong enough position to say this publicly and forcefully. Also, public opinion is gathering. The record companies may also be coming around, as mentioned. It's the right time to start pushing hard for an end to this nonsense.
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THANKS!
dave95. 7th Feb 2007
I truly believe if Jobs got the ok from the record companies in the beginning, their would be no FairPlay DRM.
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Mitch Bainwol, chairman and chief executive of the Recording Industry Association of America said Apple should open up (license) its anti-piracy technology to rivals instead.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17033428/

Looks like he is not interested in DRM-Free music, big surprise there! If this is the stance the record labels will take (still early), then your #2 may just be spot-on. Apple/Jobs comes out a winner no matter how it turns out now. The labels will end up looking like the bad guys, but I'm sure they are used to that. Apple/Jobs may have won a few more fans with the stance against DRM.

I think it was very smart on Jobs part to put the pressure back on the labels. Are they still suing grandmas and 12 year old kids?
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I figured as much
CobraA1 7th Feb 2007
I had a feeling this was the case. I know, a lot of people love to blame the big corporations for being evil, but sometimes you have to look at this stuff a bit more objectively and drop the anti-big-corporation blame game. I, for one, do think that it's the music companies pushing for DRM and not Apple/Microsoft/Sony.
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I vote for number 1
Mr. Big 7th Feb 2007
Some good talkback points have been made.
It seems to me it's a combination of things;
the main being that with Microsoft's total cave-in to the music industry via it's Vista DRM technologies, the recording industry will look turn up the pressure on Apple to copy those draconian measures with the threat of suits as the backdrop.
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"Right now, Jobs runs the music industry. When labels wanted variable pricing Jobs
said no. Ditch DRM and maybe just maybe the music industry can control Jobs a
bit."

Actually, Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy and Amazon run the music industry. Far
more CD's are sold then tunes on iTunes. And Jobs doesn't run the digital music
industry. He put his model together, nobody has come up with a better one and
he won't re-negotiate his pricing strategy, why should he? The music industry is
the only winner of variable pricing.

Jobs compelling argument is that DRM has NOT reduced piracy one iota and that
the digital delivery method is no different from the CD delivery method, which is
no different from the cassette delivery method: all are piratable. Digital just
makes it faster and easier.

The point that on 22 songs per iPod have been sold is a powerful point. In fact,
there is a relatively small percentage of people like me who buy their music
exclusively from iTMS now. I have no time and no more space for CD's.

What all of us should be the most concerned about here is the economic
relationship between the purchaser of the license to listen (that's what a CD is,
after all) and the owner of the music - the composers/lyricists/artists.

I suggest that Apple buy Apple Corps and start signing artists up big time,
develop their own DRM-free model and show the industry how to do it.

The big boys, once they see the results, will have to go along.
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is like saying anti-theft tags on clothes arent good for consumers. They exist to stop thieves, the company that publishes music owns it, not the person who buys a cd or download. If you don't like that fact don't buy it

No one is going to release a commerical OS that doesnt support DRM, strange how the geeks who won't pay money for an operating system won't pay money for music, wonder if they pay money for food or cars?
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is like saying anti-theft tags on clothes arent good for consumers. They exist to stop thieves, the company that publishes music owns it, not the person who buys a cd or download. If you don't like that fact don't buy it

No one is going to release a commerical OS that doesnt support DRM, strange how the geeks who won't pay money for an operating system won't pay money for music, wonder if they pay money for food or cars?
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Don't they take anti-theft tags OFF...
Tony Agudo 8th Feb 2007
once you've purchased your items? That's the difference between DRM and in-store security measures: DRM doesn't go away after purchase, and often causes a lot of friction for users.

No one is going to release a commerical OS that doesnt support DRM, strange how the geeks who won't pay money for an operating system won't pay money for music, wonder if they pay money for food or cars?

Funny you say that, because within the next week I'll be buying a new desktop PC, meaning I'll automatically be getting Vista on it(though the first thing I'll do is set up a dual-boot with Linux). And geeks certainly buy music, we just don't buy DRM. I buy CDs occasionally but prefer to download from E-Music, Magnatune, or indie sites.
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That makes no sense at all
stormkrow@... 8th Feb 2007
I'm sorry to disagree but DRM is not like an "anti-theft tag" it's more like a mobster standing in your closet telling you what you can and can't wear from your own wardrobe. All this nonsense over piracy comes solely from the RIAA/MPAA and not from consumers. And as far as commercial OS is concerned let's see here:
Red Hat
Suse
Sun
Ubuntu
Mandriva
BSD
Open Unix
eSmith
All commercial OS and all much more powerful than any windows machine and all DRM free.
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