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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Google Apps rollout on track in Los Angeles

By | September 8, 2010, 6:07am PDT

Summary: Systems integrator CSC said that 15,609 City of Los Angeles employees have been transitioned to Google Apps.

CSC on Wednesday said that 15,609 City of Los Angeles employees have been transitioned to Google Apps.

The project to move L.A. to Google Apps has had a few hiccups. The Google Apps migration was supposed to be complete June 30, but the Los Angeles Police Department had additional security requirements.

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A revised timeline targeted a complete migration by mid-August. Google has said it will cover the costs of the delay. CSC, the systems integrator on the project, said in a statement that 36 of the city’s 40 departments have now migrated to Google Apps. City employees are using Google Apps full suite—e-mail, calendar and documents and spreadsheets as well as Google Sites, messaging and video.

The next step in the project is to migrate L.A.’s public safety employees—notably the LAPD—to Google Apps. CSC and Google said they will finalize that migration in the fall. The Los Angeles migration is a high-profile win for Google Apps, which is increasingly duking it out with Microsoft on these big accounts.

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RE: Google Apps rollout on track in Los Angeles
tomlin21-24319035676893835085146735905770 11th Oct
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LIving in LA I am following this more closely than I would normally.
Will be interesting to see how this change trends over time and what the everyday users really have to say once they get past the "it's different" stage.
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Am I missing something here???
SonofaSailor Updated - 8th Sep 2010
The title of the article is " Google Apps rollout on track in Los Angeles "

yet, in the article it states:

The Google Apps migration was supposed to be complete June 30...

A revised timeline targeted a complete migration by mid-August...

...said in a statement that 36 of the citys 40 departments have now migrated to Google Apps.

...Google said they will finalize that migration in the fall.

How is two months past due (and still counting) "on track"??? Even with the "revised timeline", they're still behind schedule.
Great to see the City of Los Angles saving taxpayer money. It will also be a great system.
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Um...
kwabinalars 8th Sep 2010
@DonnieBoy - You know that Google Apps isn't free right? Like most "Free" software once you get into the enterprise market you get a monthly fee.
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Actually, run the numbers
Cylon Centurion Updated - 9th Sep 2010
@DonnieBoy

You'll find that Google Apps compares in price with Microsoft's prices as well.

According to Wikipedia, you're looking at 50 USD/40 EUR/33 GBP / user account / year. Going by that, that could get rather expensive pretty quick!

I have a feeling this message is going to go unanswered regardless, and we'll see the same drivel on another post.
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@NStalnecker

LA was using Groupwise, not Microsoft. And regardless of what wikipedia says, Microsoft is not even close in price to Google Apps Premier Edition. M$ is something between 2.5x and 10x greater in cost per user. $50/user/year is CHEAP for what you get.
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@SonofaSailor - are you new to IT?

jk jk
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@daboochmeister Seriously. Delayed 2 or 3 months is usually considered waaaaaayyyy ahead of schedule. happy

But you have to wonder how much of this rests on the City. Nobody's saying too much, compared to the SAP/Deloitte/Marin County disaster.
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@daboochmeister Hahaha! You admit you're joking, but it's one of those bits of humor that would elicit a rueful cringe of recognition from any IT project veteran. Being part of an IT project is like riding a train -- it may be late, but you count your blessings if it's still "on track", i.e., it hasn't derailed.
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@SonofaSailor
Yes, I don't think the Google Apps package has a replacement for MS Project lol.

But never forget that Google are little more than advertising salesmen - so its not unusual for them to make outrageous claims like this.
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Meanwhile the entire National electricity Service in China - many thousands the size of LA has elected to use Microsoft's Azure Cloud Appliance. So too has Ebay, again considerably larger than LA.

Both projects are on time and on budget. Neither even looked at Google because Google Apps are little more than cheap clones of Microsoft 1980s apps and Google don't offer ANY enterprise tools at all.

Moreover the next stage of integration in LA involves the LAPD, who are steadfastly refusing to allow Google's security-free software anywhere near their data.

Interesting times ahead.
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