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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Google's Page says nothing can stop Android; Is he right?

By | October 14, 2011, 3:00am PDT

Summary: Android looks unbeatable for the most part, but there are areas to worry about.

Google CEO Larry Page said “Android growing gangbusters and we don’t see anything that’s going to stop that.”

It’s hard to argue with that assessment—even though I tried in this week’s Great Debate series and got pummeled. After all, who can argue with the statistics Page and his Google gang were highlighting on the company’s third quarter earnings conference call. The top two figures:

  • 190 million Android devices have been activated around the world.
  • Mobile advertising is at a $2.5 billion run rate.

Now toss in Google’s Ice Cream Sandwich launch in Hong Kong next week and Android looks unbeatable. “You won’t believe what we’ve managed to get done in this release,” said Page.

Despite all of this Android confidence—and the fact I like to be contrarian—I have to ponder at least a stagnation scenario for Android. Under this scenario, Android’s rate of growth slows and alternatives emerge. Judging from the talkbacks in the Great Debate, there isn’t a lot of middle ground. Either you think Android is going to be the Windows of the mobile world or you don’t.

This talkback outlines one possibility for Android:

I’m sure everyone else has noticed that this iOS vs. Android debate has sounded familiar from the very start - it’s an almost word-for-word rehashing of the MacOS vs. Windows debate.
And how did that turn out?

Windows pulled ahead in terms of capability very early, but with all that “openness” came the headaches: compatibility issues, malware, Windows ME, Windows Vista, etc. And then stagnation. Sure there were “advancements” in certain applications (I’m still not sure the Ribbon is an advancement), but the reality is that for all the possibilities for competing applications, when the smoke cleared we were down to MS Office, Adobe products, and Oracle.

So if history has taught us anything, every new platform follows the same formula:
1. Acceptance
2. New innovation
3. Explosive growth
4. Winnowing of the players
5. Stagnation/status quo

Clearly we’re in the explosive growth phase, but will the mobile platform market really boil down to Apple and Google when carriers are determined to create a No. 3?

I argued that Android has significant risks ahead. Here are five items I noted in the Great Debate.

  • Ice Cream Sandwich may not be magical. Let’s face it Android 3.0 has been a tablet dud. Ice Cream Sandwich is designed to unify smartphones and tablets. If Ice Cream Sandwich isn’t magical then Android may not get enough tablet share ahead of Windows 8. It’s not like Apple is slowing down on tablets.
  • Alternatives will emerge. Microsoft Windows Phone will grab share simply based on Nokia distribution. HTC and Samsung are hedging against Android with Microsoft Phone. RIM isn’t dead despite management’s best efforts to screw things up.
  • Lock-in matters. Watch Apple’s iCloud closely. If Apple can get your photos, music and communications in its cloud the switching costs to Google will keep customers around. Amazon will also have its share of tablet lock-in to its platform. Google has some parts of lock-in, but doesn’t have the integration.
  • User experience. Android sometimes makes me think a DOS prompt is just around the corner. Will force closes matter to consumers at some point?
  • How loyal are Android users? It’s unknown at this point if consumers are really feeling the Android love. Devices are being activated because of sheer volume.

Perhaps Android is the unstoppable force, but there’s enough to question whether it will be a world beater forever.

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tkejlboom 27th Oct
AOL had lock-in and their limited walled of portion of the internet reduced the likelihood of running into drive-by exploits. They were hugely profitable in the short term, but in the long term... Well, they're still around, right?
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and the devices are boring battery hogs. Even droid bionic is a huge yawn.

And how come chrome isnt available on Android?
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Sony Ericsson Ray
guihombre 14th Oct
While the stock Android interface maybe a grid-of-icons-yet-again-fest, what some of the handset makers are doing is leap years ahead.

Go look at Sony-Ericssons work. They started with the swirling spirals in x10, the current crop do a sort of floppy paper animation whenever the screen changes.

Google may not have much design flair, but the handset makers using Android certainly do.

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GOP: will bail out billionaire bankers, but won't tax them.
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The trouble for Google is that Android growth is already starting to stop.

There may have been 190 million Android devices activated by all Android manufacturers combined, but Apple all by itself has sold 250 million iOS devices and captured 61% of the profit share of the entire cellular industry.

550,000 Android smartphone, tablet and other device activations per day sounds like a lot until you realise Apple averaged 622,000 iOS devices sold per day in the 45 days up to October 4th this year - and that was with the year-old iPhone 4. With the huge surge in iPhone 4S sales now taking place, that will only increase.

Android's global sales growth rate dropped to 3 percent in the March 2011 quarter from 7.5 percent in the fourth quarter 2010 and 9.5 percent in the September 2010 quarter.

CommScore reports Android growth in US smartphone marketshare (where Android growth has been strongest in the developed world to-date) has dropped to 1.9 percent July through to August.

Android tablet marketshare has not just stagnated but is actually dropping, from 34% in Q1 to 26.8% in Q2 and is projected to plunge to 23.0% this quarter according to IDC.

However, even if or when Android installed base overtakes iOS, it means nothing unless developer income, manufacturer profits, content provider income, web browser share and media income also increases. Just ask Nokia and Symbian who had by far the largest unit sales and installed base but completely failed in all these other metrics.

Android still has a tiny fraction of the developer income and ad income is still lower than the iOS platform with Mobclix reporting every iOS user is worth up to twice as much to advertisers as Android users.

Heck despite Android tablets supposedly capturing a third of all tablet sales, the iPad still captured 97% of web browser marketshare. What does that say about how viable the Android ecosystem really is?
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guihombre 14th Oct
"There may have been 190 million Android devices activated by all Android manufacturers combined, but Apple all by itself has sold 250 million iOS devices "

Apple presumably have more upgrades being in the market far longer. Last quarter they sold 18.65 million iPhones, about 200k a day and 9.25 million iPads, about 100k a day. i.e. 300k a day total, Rubin made a public claim of 500k a day Android devices.

"captured 61% of the profit share"
Yes I think thats probably correct they do/did seem to be able to get a premium.

"Apple averaged 622,000 iOS devices sold per day in the 45 days up to October 4th this year"

Apple are due to report on the 18th of this month, and I do not therefore think you would have that number (source?). It would mean they'd double their last reported sales which I doubt.

"Android tablet marketshare has not just stagnated but is actually dropping, from 34% in Q1 to 26.8% in Q2 and is projected to plunge to 23.0% this quarter according to IDC."

Wow I thought they had like 10% market share in tablets, not 26%. In terms of units did they sell more in a growing market? My impression is that Apple is selling well in that market and growing faster than Google, but both basically growing, selling more each quarter at the expense of PCs. Yes?

"However, even if or when Android installed base overtakes iOS, it means nothing unless developer income, manufacturer profits, content provider income, web browser share and media income also increases."

I think they already have overtaken, you mentioned 250 million iOs units sold, but it's been on the market longer and a large part will be upgrades. Far less so on Android which is far newer.
So I think Android has more units out in use, but also far more competitive market. As to app revenue, Apple does a better job of selling apps, Google does a better job of ad-supported apps (Admob being typical). I think there's more profit in Apple, but not by much.

"Heck despite Android tablets supposedly capturing a third of all tablet sales, the iPad still captured 97% of web browser marketshare."

Last figure I saw for that 93% of internet surfing was PC. 1.8% was tablet.... so I have my doubts about even iPads (but I've expressed those doubts before). Very much a wait and see for me.
@ guihombre
Your iPhone sales figure is wrong - Apple announced they sold 20.34 million in Q2 2011 at their last earnings report. You also forgot the iPod touch which sold somewhere between 6 and 7 million that quarter.

My daily figure was a little inaccurate it was actually 512,000 iOS devices per day. June 6th, Apple announced 200 million iOS devices sold and then 43 days later on July 19th Apple reported 222 million iOS devices sold. That makes it 22 million divided by 43 days = 512,000 iOS devices per day.

The reported sales drop in Android tablets comes straight from IDC, go check their report yourself. Android tablet sales have fallen off a cliff.

Android is far from overtaking iOS in active installed base. Apple only sold 17 million iPhones in the first 2 years so the vast majority of those 250 million devices are still in use.

ComScore reported in August that the active iOS user base is 59% larger in the USA than Android and 116% larger in Europe.

Extra proof comes from web browsing stats that show there are far more iOS devices out there.

ComScore's May 2011 Device Essentials Report gives an excellent break-down by country:

iOS captured 53.1% of all non-computer web traffic in the USA versus only 35.6% for Android.
In Canada and Australia, iOS captured an enormous 83% versus 8.6% and 11% respectively for Android.
In the UK iOS captured 60% versus 15.4% for Android.

Brazil: iOS= 83% Android= 8.6%
Singapore: iOS= 82.9% Android= 11.4%
Chile: iOS= 64.1% Android= 14.5%
Argentina: iOS= 31.6% Android= 23.6%
Japan: iOS= 65.5% Android= 30.6%
India: iOS= 7.4% Android= 6.5%
@guihombre

? iOS is a grid of icons. Android has always, always been a very easily customized layout of widgets, shortcuts, and folders. My "calendar" screen looked similar to the Windows Phone 7 home screen almost 2 years ago.
@marthill

You mixed up your verb tenses. Google had 190 million ACTIVE devices in a two week period at the end of September. Not HAD BEEN ACTIVATED. ACTIVE. Take your 250 million and divide by at least 2.
@otaddy
Boring? HA!

Why don't you go re-arrange your icons...
@otaddy

It is being reported that Chrome is coming with ICS.
@otaddy

buy yourself SGS2 if you are *really* concerned about "battery hogs".
The problem seems to be that a LOT of buyers don't want a smartphone, they want a touchscreen phone. So they don't really participate much - they don't surf much, they don't download many apps.

Essentially they are treating Android phones like "feature phones". This really came home to me last week when I was handed an Android phone to configure for email. Clearly (to my shame) I winced, and was told: "I don't need an iPhone, I don't think I'd use it... " Then the kicker: "I'm not technical like you."

I think in this "iPhone" is a being used instead of "smartphone".

This IS a problem for them. Right at this moment it'd be hard for me to leave iOS - because of the apps I have bought. I think Android owners don't have that kind of friction.

I'm talking about the situation here in the UK - maybe things are different elsewhere.
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Not all that different here
William Farrell 14th Oct
@Jeremy-UK
the main thing that would greatly slow the growth of Android would be if Apple and MS decide to put their iOS and WP7 on cheaper $39 phones, like a good portion of Android is.

I agree 100% with you on Essentially they are treating Android phones like "feature phones".
@William Farrell Didn't you just describe the iPhone 3GS? Here that's "free" on contract, and quite cheap off contract. I don't think you could get an Android phone significantly cheaper.

I think number of handsets in the wild isn't the most interesting or even important number.
@William Farrell
please this is a discussions about the big boys, please leave it out the metoo/wannabies with market share shrinking from 0.8 to 0.7...
@Jeremy-UK I think that's a highly valuable observation, one that explains the economic return (to the carrier and Apple) per unit sold. Put baldly, the hip, sexy, socially 'high-touch' buy and use the Apple products and the next demographic over want to have a utility device. Of course we also have our Crack-berry demographic. If MS had any marketing brains left (Look up Commodore Amiga wink they'd have invested more time and effort in their last campaign which never quite defined which demos they were after.

So Google errs in marketing just as well as MS. For what its worth, I always recommend Apple gear to the non-engineering inclined even though I personally can't stand them or them me! I just don't want the middle of the night calls, thank you.
@Jeremy-UK

I've just bought an Xperia Ray because:

1. I don't want any Apple hardware
2. It is by Sony Ericsson whose phones I like
3. It is ??4 a month less than I was paying before
4. It has an 8mp camera
5. I'm not particularly interested in huge numbers of applications (NOT "apps", I don't have a problem with 4 syllables)
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... is that it's not dependent on Google to drive things forward, the way Windows is dependent on Microsoft. And it runs on ARM, which is not primarily dependent on one chip supplier the way x86 is with Intel.

Look at the category-busting Android devices like the Nook Color, Kindle Fire, and all the different size of screens from regular phone-size to full tablet-size and everything in-between. You never saw that kind of flexibility with Windows, and you still aren't, even with Microsoft's Herculean efforts to contort their software into shapes it was never designed for.

Android's flexibility comes from the fact that vendors do not need Google's blessing before trying new things with it--they can just go ahead and do it.
@ldo17
You win best talk back IMO. I was a bit surprised that I didn't see a swarm of "What about fragmentation" comments after yours.
It's clear at this point that Android is successful for many reasons. Fragmentation has probably helped the distribution more than harmed it. It's that crazy flexibility that has put Android on just about anything with a cpu.

For many customers it's not about owning a specific brand. It's about getting something functional (Read: plays Angry Birds, checks email) for an inexpensive price. Just like a computer. When people ask me what computer to buy I always start out by asking them what they intend to do on it. 90% of the time they say, "MS Office and Facebook." When I hear that kind of thing I say, "Here's a PC on sale at NewEgg for $300." They don't care what operating system it runs. Honestly it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that it will do what they want for the lowest price.

So I can advise someone to get an iPhone 4 for $99 or a Nexus S for $29. Most people lean towards the Nexus S and then say, "Hey, I would love an iPhone but can't spend $99."
I don't know about unstopable, but here in Ireland anyway Android has gained traction, not because they are better phones, they're not (benchmarks show the 4s smokes even the latest android phones), but for the most part they are free or very inexpensive in comparison to the iphone, so faced with a ???200 + iphone or a free android that seems to be pretty similar, many opt for free. The tablet market is another matter, android continues to fail there and unless it gains more traction before windows 8 will be a very poor third behind apple and microsoft. ios is the largest mobile platform over all if you include tablets, the iPhone 4 is the no. 1 smart phone and if pre orders are anything to go by the 4s will soon rocket into that position, with the 4 as number 2 and likely the 3gs as number 3, Android might be leading in total phones, but can swamping the market with free phones really be termed as winning in that market, I'd suggest the balance sheets might show other wise. In mobile platforms the game is Apples to loose, with windows phone 7 not gaining traction it's hard to see microsoft gaining in phones, but tablets may be another story.

Manufacturers may get sick of subsidising android, where the only clear winner is google with ad revenue and may push windowws phone, where will that leave android.
@mjpwall@...

Nonsense. First off OEMs are raking in record profits with Android. Just ask HTC. Next, there's this fantasy that they would leave for Windows Phone 7, an OS that they have to pay for and have very few options for customization (and thus differentiation). That's a faster track to commoditization than Android. The OEMs are not suicidal.
Enjoy Android! Quite happy with iCloud here!!!
@Hasam1991

icloud is copied from android. So are the rest of the new iOS 5 features. And the iphone 4S is now on par with the performance on the 10 month old samsung galaxy S II with a smaller screen. You are stuck with this phone for 24 more months with no 4G. Verizon already has 200 million people covered under their LTE 4G network. Imagine what is going to be like in 12 months.
And this is a good thing???
@Userama The Lion was the T-Rex of the Mammal world. Doesn't mean he suffered from all of the design flaws and other quirks of the earlier designs. "Windows of the Mobile World" is simply that slot in the mobile ecosystem that Windows occupied. That was certainly not a bad thing for Microsoft, and despite their regular mishandling of it, it's still the dominant force on the desktop.

I think mobile devices are inherently more vulnerable to a platform takeover... well, as both iOS and Android have already illustrated. So maybe Google has to keep on their toes a little more than MS did. On the other hand, they've already offered their OEMs freedoms that Microsoft never will -- open source, primarily. Android's marketing was designed to target just what OEMs want. If Google maintains that, they are unstoppable.
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RE: Google's Page says nothing can stop Android; Is he right?
LoverockDavidson_-24231404894599612871915491754222 14th Oct
Nothing can stop android, except those patents. And Google alienating itself with the Motorola purchase. And shoddy management.
Hey, let's see what Apple & Oracle have to say about that.
Apple's making all the money and Oracle's going to rake in all the cash sooner or later.
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Some factors
dave@... 14th Oct
Yeah, Android is doing well. While Apple's probably still taking the most profits, it's Android that's forcing Apple to go cheap, selling older models at $100 and "free"... and even that's not a guaranteed win. Samsung alone (the company that makes all of the expensive chips in most iOS devices) is closing in on the iPhone's numbers alone. Those 550,000 activations per day, that's 200 million units per year. Sure, Apple does great numbers too, currently about 30M iOS devices per quarter, maybe 40M around Christmastime. That's still only half the Android volume, and Apple is growing less slowly.

The fear of stagnation is real, but it's real for anyone who gets too successful. The very reason Apple was able to essentially just walk in and take over the smartphone market was that the existing smartphone companies had grown too fat and happy. And of course, sure, they didn't believe that consumers were interested. Heck, Nokia technically had 50% of the market, but they didn't even push the idea to consumers that those SymbianOS phones were actually smartphones -- most users thought they were only "feature" phones.

Or look at Microsoft... they conquered the desktop, so they spent a great deal of time worrying about how to capture other markets, and not so much about how to keep customers loyal. That's how you get boondoggles like Vista, and more dangerous still, a user base with a large segment that really hates the fact they're "forced" into using Windows. In fact, the jump to mobile devices factors in here too... it's shown millions that they can do just fine, in most areas of computing, without Windows. It's given Microsoft their second big moment of self-reflection... they really missed this. Just as they missed that whole little bump in the highway known as the Internet.

Nothing can stop Android? Not really... like most of these things, Google can stop Android. Or keep it going. They have to keep it evolving, they have to keep it interesting, and they have to fix small issues before they get too big to manage. The mobile industry has an advantage the PC folks never did: most of these devices are replaced every couple of years. This allows the hardware and software to evolve much faster if it can, because there's less concern for supporting 3+ year-old devices. With that said, Google really does need to address the complex issue of OS updates better than they have. Thanks to IBM's BIOS, Microsoft didn't have to deal with this nearly as much, but IBM only went part-way. Google needs to implement a full Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) spec for client devices. Microsoft eventually did just this, but as part of Windows, not in the ROM where it ought to be. With a proper HAL, Google can release OS updates in the Android Market, they don't have to count on every device company being interested in porting new software to old hardware. This will benefit the OEMs, too... they can still customize Android if they like, but they won't need a new build for each device.
@marthill, spot-on, great post, thx.
@marthill your post was spot-on, thank you for the details that pretty much sum up the reality of the marketplace. There is a reason Apple stock is over $400, and that reason is mobile.
Any company is out there to make money.

If an iPhone can bring substantial profit to Apple, while an Android phone is just marginally profitable for the manufacturer, guess what -- those manufacturers may prefer to PAY, say Microsoft, for something else that will make their devices more profitable.

The fact that Google get's rich on the backs of all Android phone manufacturers doesn't help the future of this platform, at all.

Things will get even worse, when next lawsuits prove that Android is not free -- the bait Google used to trick all those manufacturers/users to provide them with access to their personal data.
I don't get this myth that the OEMs aren't making money. Just look at HTC's profits. Motorola came back from the dead because of Android. Look at Samsung's mobile profits.

Sure they don't get Apple's ASPs. But they are making more with Android than they would with any other OS. They know this. That's why they are will to pay MS' Android tax and keep pumping out Android phones.
Android is a wonderful OS..the problem is Verizon and the lack of any restrictions on advertising and updates ! Screw Verizon, screw all the ads! keep them all and eat your hardware until you get it under control..sickening as it is right now
IMHO, the biggest threat to Android is litigation. If Apple and Oracle get judges to agree that Android infringes on their patents, they may order sales of Android devices to stop.

I say this as a satisfied user of a Droid 2.
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Android > iOS
warboat 14th Oct
iOS fans, your devices will be powered by linux/Android eventually. Just look at Macs. Nice and pretty dumbed down OS and then Apple figured it's beyond them to develop their OS to compete. So they go and use cheap open source linux and tart it up and want you to think they reinvented the Mac. Now look at iOS5 and see how many of its new features are lifted right out of Android. Apple is playing catch up again and eventually Apple will find iOS too difficult to keep patching up and just do a Mac OS X job and tart up Android for devices. They will find a way to market it and have all the isheep upgrade even if they lose compatibility with lots of old app. The app developers will be quick to adapt their old app to the new OS if they want to get downloaded from the appstore.
It already happened on the Apple desktop. It will probably happen on the idevices.
@warboat
Sorry, it's not linux, it is BSD Unix that forms the core of OS X.
And it's not the iSheep buying iPhones and iPads, it's the hoards of PCheeple--that's why the iPad outsold the Mac in less than a year.
And yes, the developers will quickly updates their apps to the latest iOS. That's how they earn a living. Google app store in 2010: $105 million revenue--less than Nokia or RIM. Apple app store revenue in 2010--$1.7 billion--over 10 X the size of the Google app store.
@guihombre

He is referring to mobile browsing.

The return rate for android devices is no laughing matter also.
Please Google:

Tragedy of Labor Rights Repression in IBM China
or
How Much IBM Can Get Away with is the Responsibility of the Media
or
IBM detained mother of ex-employee on the day of centennial
As an iOS user I'd hate for android to disappear. I've learnt over time that competition brings out the best in us. That is true for companies as well as humans. I don't think apple would like the market to themselves. It would be abnormal for that situation to occur.

The thing I fear most is a return to the mono culture of microsfoft dominance. I think the late 90's and early 2000's were like the dark ages. MS did not have to improve XP much because there was no competition for them. We are seeing MS's best work precisely because competition has forced them to try harder.

No one should be wishing for a winner takes all environment in mobile or tablets. It's bad for business and ultimately bad for the consumer.
I have a hard time believing the Android numbers, with in my circle of friends (admittedly a small sample of about 150) I only know 2 people who still use Android, and more than half use an iPhone, second is an older blackberry or something old.
Many have an iPhone now that replaced and early Android phone (most friends on Verizon).
And I travel a lot, and survey users on planes and in airports to what technology devices they are using. I do see lots of Android phones in out there but not nearly as many (less than 20%) the number of iPhones you see. Again this may be somewhat self selecting as the type of people who fly is a subset of the general population. And this has been true of m trips to Europe as well.
All the web statistics I see support the same ratio where iOS is 2x to 3x the size of Android.
And finally the biggest tow factors I hear regarding why people do not have iPhones yet are price and supply related, both of which are diminishing quickly.
At least Zdnet things it can.
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tkejlboom 27th Oct
AOL had lock-in and their limited walled of portion of the internet reduced the likelihood of running into drive-by exploits. They were hugely profitable in the short term, but in the long term... Well, they're still around, right?

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