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HTC sues Apple over patent infringement

By | May 12, 2010, 10:56am PDT

Summary: HTC has fired back at Apple, filing a complaint of its own over five patents and calling for the halting of iPhone, iPad and iPod sales in the U.S.

HTC said today that it has filed suit against Apple for patent infringement and has asked the U.S. International Trade Commission to “halt the importation and sale of the iPhone, iPad and iPod in the United States.”

The complaint, which HTC says involves five patents, follows legal action by Apple against HTC in a Delaware District court and the ITC in March.

In a brief statement today, Jason McKenzie, VP of HTC North America, said:

As the innovator of the original Windows Mobile PocketPC Phone Edition in 2002 and the first Android smartphone in 2008, HTC believes the industry should be driven by healthy competition and innovation that offer consumers the best, most accessible mobile experiences possible. We are taking this action against Apple to protect our intellectual property, our industry partners, and most importantly our customers that use HTC phones.

The competitive landscape of the mobile industry has become so intense that allegations of patent infringement are flying all over the place, though Apple has been careful to keep the deepest-pocketed competitors - notably Google and Microsoft - out of its legal filings. While Apple mentioned Google’s Android mobile OS on several instances in its own court filings, it’s legal beef is strictly with the hardware manufacturer HTC, the smallest and weakest patent player. HTC also makes devices that run on Windows Mobile OS.

Initially, Apple’s legal complaints made it look like the bully kicking sand into the face of the 98-pound weakling on the beach - an effort to get HTC and its iPhone-killer devices out of the way. Clearly, HTC is a thorn in Apple’s side.

Last month, NPD reported that Android devices outsold the iPhone. In addition, Piper Jaffray analyst T. Michael Walkley said that HTC is taking share from rivals. In that report, Walkley writes:

Our April and early May checks indicated strong North America share gains for HTC with strong initial sales of the HTC Incredible at Verizon, combined with solid sales of the HTC Hero at Sprint and HTC HD2 and My Touch 3G at T-Mobile. We believe consumers overwhelmingly selected HTC based Android and Windows Mobile based devices due to its customizable UI, processing power with Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 1 GHz processor and sleek designs.

The landscape changed for HTC after the Apple complaints were filed, thanks to an patent licensing agreement between Microsoft and HTC last month that covers Android devices. That deal, in essence, gave HTC some legal heft in its battle with Apple, Larry Dignan argued in a post last month.

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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
musdahi Updated - 8th Oct
HTC sues Apple over patent about it is bank that website attacked from the site support from any soldier site to the light home page is great infringement
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Thank you HTC, much appreciated
NonZealot 12th May 2010
We are taking this action against Apple to protect our intellectual property, our industry partners, and most importantly our customers that use HTC phones.

I truly do appreciate your efforts. Apple is evil and must be stopped.
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
Hallowed are the Ori 12th May 2010
@NonZealot

Testify, brother!!!!
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
musdahi Updated - 8th Oct
HTC sues Apple over patent about it is bank that website attacked from the site support from any soldier site to the light home page is great infringement
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If you really believe that then why or why
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 12th May 2010
@NonZealot : did you buy a Mac Book Pro.
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I made a mistake
NonZealot Updated - 12th May 2010
My MacBook Pro was the right purchase for all of my technical specifications. However, I now regret supporting this evil company. Sometimes, you need to stand on principle. Apple is evil and must be stopped and I'm sorry that I contributed $2,000 to their legal fund that will now be used to eliminate yet another competitor.
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He claims to have bought one...
msalzberg 12th May 2010
there's often a difference between claim and fact.
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I truly do find it hilarious that people think I'm lying when I praise the capabilities of my MacBook! Makes me laugh... at them. happy
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@NonZealot

Just like when people think I am lying when I tell them I have a Macbook and own an iPhone and iPod Touch and have been using Apple Computers since the 80's.
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"Apple is evil and must be stopped."
msalzberg 12th May 2010
I don't think "nonzealot" means what you think it means.
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Maybe He Bought a iFail i7 iMac!
Monarky 12th May 2010
@JM1981 Maybe he was one of the suckers..... I mean customers that bought a Newton or had iTunes on his PC and learned his lesson about Apple Products. With all their closed, non customizable same o same o interface look or it's Adware, Malware, Spyware and slowwww.... Quicktime player in it. Really doesn't take much to not like Apple's Authoritarian Diktatorship (excuse the typo)! wink
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
ubiquitous one Updated - 13th May 2010
Just like when people think I am lying when I tell them I have a Macbook and own an iPhone and iPod Touch and have been using Apple Computers since the 80's.

@bobrock, we do like to laugh at liars and frankly, at times, I don't know who's bigger. You or the zealous non-zealot.



Non-Zealot was either the biggest liar or the biggest sucker out there. Are you trying to dismantle his throne?
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
edward polling Updated - 4th Jul
HTC has fired back at Apple, filing a complaint of its own over five patents and calling for the halting of iPhone, iPad and iPod sales in the ipad bag blog sutudeg education news and pclos hwdb U.S. k l
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
gaberdiye03 Updated - 21st Jun
@Snooki_smoosh_smoosh Just like when people think I am lying when I tell pembe maske energy balance oyna oyunu moliva orjin krem tutune son nanomatik complex 41 new fx15 them I have a Macbook and own an iPhone and iPod Touch and have been using Apple Computers since the 80's.
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Someone forgot their meds today.
matthew_maurice 12th May 2010
@NonZealot "Apple is evil and must be stopped" Damn, project much? Apple is a company, like Microsoft, Exxon Mobil or Avon. They exist to make money (which Apple does better than anyone else in their industry), and they sue people who they think give them cause. If you think HTC or Nokia or even Apple are they "good guys" here, you're just plain wrong. They're neither good nor bad, they just are. Now get over yourself and your little histrionics.
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@matthew_maurice
I agree with you that HTC or Nokia probably have not been proven to be any better or worse than Apple; but, I really have to object to your use of Exxon Mobil as an example of a company that is "neither good or bad". Look up exxposeexxon and have yourself a read. Being immoral and being illegal are distinct things that you might be trying to blur along the margins.
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@matthew_maurice I'll agree, Apple is an evil company. They skirt on areas that MS gets sued to death on, tout that they innovate, when they actually steal. Buy out companies only to shut them down to keep out competition. Evil. Period.

HTC's not too clear either. "HTC believes the industry should be driven by healthy competition" yet "has asked the U.S. International Trade Commission to ??????halt the importation and sale of the iPhone, iPad and iPod in the United States.?????? What kind of B.S. is that?
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@matthew_maurice
have you been watching Lost?
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@matthew_maurice Agreed. BTW, I have this awesome GPS I'll sell you for $5! But you can only use it in this special car I'll sell to you for $100,000. Oh, and if you get a flat tire or anything, come to me because I have special tires for only $1000! Not like you have a choice, because its the only tire that will fit... OH! And I have to charge you a rental fee for the special jack that I will use on the car. You can try using a different jack, but then I'll have to void your warranty. And BTW, if you ever sell the car, you have to give me back the GPS.
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@matthew_maurice
Hmm.. you do make a point.

Nah, Apple *is* evil :P
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Evil is as Evil Does
hiraghm@... 13th May 2010
@matthew_maurice

When I buy a product, and the manufacturer after the fact attempts to control how I use that product, that is evil.
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
DeusExMachina 13th May 2010
@Narg
Steal? Name one example.
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
DeusExMachina Updated - 13th May 2010
@epicflux
WTF are YOU talking about?
Are you trying to make a little joke, funny boy? How about you try some specific allegations, so you can be shown to be the misinformed fool that you clearly are?
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@narc, there's one big reason for that
ubiquitous one 13th May 2010
It's called marketshare. When Apple reaches that 90 percent of the desktop market, I will fully be on board with you.

Until then, they've been selling their PCs as one closed package since 1977 and I doubt there's anything you can do at this point in time to force them to adopt the Windoze model and allow any .NET captive tool to make junkware for them.
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@NonZealot I agree!
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
justthinking 12th May 2010
Haaaa haaaa...about damn time...
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yes.... about time!
Monarky Updated - 12th May 2010
@justthinking I thought there was something very similar to Apple and their fan/zealot's Big Mouthed Claims of having invented everything including the Internet. Oh... helps having Al Gore on your Board! lol... wonder what secrets HTC has been sitting on like some meek push over even though they have many firsts under their belt! Bigger isn't always better. Being best in time usually wins in a toe race!
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
DeusExMachina 13th May 2010
@Monarky
It would make you think that, seeing as you are exactly the type of simpleton this type of misdirection is aimed at.
And for the record, please list exactly what part of Al Gore's ACTUAL statement about his role in the internet was factually incorrect.
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HTC has never invented a damn thing.
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Yet Apple invented it all?
John Zern 12th May 2010
or someone else did?
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@qnetter

Funny, I was using HTC phones for years before Apple even had an i-whatever!
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No ???
johnmckay 12th May 2010
@qnetter You must get out more. You should definitely look at some of the kit that was out there before iphones etc. Maybe you're one of those folk that think Apple were the 1st company to put a camera on a mobile. I've heard a few like that.... geez.

I do long for the day Apple can just use stuff to produce nice items without looking for ways to stifle everyone else. How would you feel if they were forced to remove the camera because someone used one on a different phone? That would be stupid... just like most of Apples ridiculous claims against other innovators.
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@GetReal-mac.com that would have been Sharp in 2000
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
DeusExMachina 13th May 2010
@GetReal-mac.com

Stupid would be your understanding of both Apple's claims, and the realities of patent law.
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all the necessary patents to make a smartphone with touch capabilities. I think Steve never thought about that coming, otherwise he would have asked Microsoft's help by replacing google with bing in the first place and then went ahead to torch HTC and others. He could have also gotten Microsoft Office for iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad instead of wasting money on iWorks.

--Ram--
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Are you kidding?
matthew_maurice 12th May 2010
@Rama.NET These guys are the masters of counter-triple-think. I'm sure Apple General Counsel has contingency plans for a lawsuit from everybody up to and including the Venezulan Department of Consumer Protection or Hugo Chavez himself.

As for Office for the iPhone OS, as good a job as the MS Mac Business Unit has done making Office on the Mac suck less, I don't think Steve is in any hurry to have anything with the stink of Microsoft on the iPad. Let's not kid ourselves, while Apple may flirt with MS to keep Google off-balance, this is not a case of "my enemy's enemy is my friend', from what we've seen and read so far, Windows Phone 7 seems to be a redux of the MS re-tool of Apple ideas we saw with Windows. Nah, Steve sees no ally in Redmond, and even if they did it's not like MS can execute on anything other than legacy cash-cows with established revenue streams.
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@matthew_maurice
Rama.NET 12th May 2010
@matthew_maurice.
>>"my enemy's enemy is my friend', yeah well, why Eric Schmidt was there in the board of Apple? what was his purpose. At least Steve made a big mistake by inviting mammoth into camp just to fight a Saber Tooth.
--Ram--
@Rama.NET HTC is not some dumb bunch of Chinese hicks. It's why they lost no time in not only licensing Elan's patents, but using their chips in the Incredible!

I think Apple is going to be sorry they ever opened up this can of (apple maggots) worms. They really can't sue Google either. Since Android was in development long before Apple began porting OS-X to a completed hardware device with their own chip!

If you remember, Google bought Android, around August of 2005. Two years before iPhone was even launched! grin
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DeusExMachina 13th May 2010
@Monarky
Android is an OS. What, exactly is your point (other that to make it clear you don't understand what you are talking about)?
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
DeusExMachina 13th May 2010
@Rama.NET
They had all the necessary patents to make a ****** smartphone. They did not have many available to make a good one.
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@qnetter It's not about invention it's about patent ownership. Apple and most other manufacturers did not invent all their hardware and software, but acquire or license it. For example, Qualcomm licenses the radio technology to Apple for us in the iPhone/iPad.
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But then, nor has Apple corp
kaninelupus 14th May 2010
@qnetter
They simply "reinvent" the tech of others; then sues the actual inventors! Nice to see the shoe on the other foot for once.
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All the lawyers must be running out right now to spend all that money they will be getting.

I wonder how this will play out in the end? Everyone is suing everyone else when they actually bring out a competitive product.
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@adr5@... It's a corporate legal game of chicken. Apple sued HTC, so HTC sues Apple. The two will continue their lawsuits until one of them drops their suit or runs out of money or makes an IP agreement between them.
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Yup, and who has more money?
NonZealot Updated - 12th May 2010
The two will continue their lawsuits until one of them drops their suit or runs out of money or makes an IP agreement between them.

Apple is the 9,000lb gorilla with a lawyer and everyone had better play nice or they get sued out of the market. You are totally right that this will end in only 1 of 2 ways:
1. HTC will go bankrupt. Score 1 for competition!!!!
2. HTC will realize that bankruptcy sucks and will make an IP agreement. It will read something like: HTC agrees to give all of its IP to Apple. Score 1 for innovation!!!!
...is because they're countersuing Apple.

Que your own double standards...
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
Bill Snebold 12th May 2010
What a load of cr**
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@Bill Snebold

It's funny. If there is a headline about Microsoft "allegedly" stealing someone elses technology the comments are instantly calling them a bunch of thieves, but if Apple makes the news for such things they get comments like this.

Sorry to break it to ya buddy, but Apple is just as bad as other companies when it comes to such things. It just seems lately they are getting called out on their wrong doings more. See what happens when you become more popular. You get put in the spotlight and people and other companies try and find reasons to bring you down. Now if these allegations are true then Apple should pay and it is my personal opinion that Apple is not the great "innovator" that some make them out to be. They have done some good things for technology but they use, borrow, and steal just like everyone else.
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They have done some good things for technology but they use, borrow, and steal just like everyone else.

http://techdusts.com/2010/03/04/apple-htc/
2010:
We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions, or we can do something about it. We've decided to do something about it. We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours.

1996:
We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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RE: HTC sues Apple over patent infringment
Playdrv4me Updated - 12th May 2010
This is going to be entertaining to say the least...
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@Playdrv4me

I expect it won't. It makes for sensational ZDNET headlines and fodder for silly speculation about company x's goal to take over the world but that's about it. There will be some richer lawyers at the end maybe 5 years down the road.

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