IBM trash talking on Sun's OpenSolaris

IBM trash talking on Sun's OpenSolaris

Summary: Stephen Shankland reports on remarks by Dan Frye,  the IBM executive in charge of its Linux Technology Center. Frye characterized OpenSolaris as an open source facade, with Sun not sharing control of it with outsiders.

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Stephen Shankland reports on remarks by Dan Frye,  the IBM executive in charge of its Linux Technology Center. Frye characterized OpenSolaris as an open source facade, with Sun not sharing control of it with outsiders. "It's a facade. There's lots of marketing, but no community to speak of," he said. Sun, of course, points to 119 code contributions from outsiders and 40 projects related to OpenSolaris, and the fact that Sun is planning to open source every piece of code, including reference implementations for processors, it has developed.

It's telling that IBM's philosophy and support for open source is conditional. Scott Handy, senior vice president for Linux and open source at IBM, makes the statement that there is no point in making AIX (IBM's Unix) open source in Shankland's story. "There's room for a proprietary one and an open one. Once one is open, you don't need any more," he said.  My question is who made up that rule--you need only one open and one closed operating system? That just doesn't seem credible or even logical. Is this a rule at IBM, and what IBM tells it customers? Who just needs just one open and one closed operating system...or app server or ERP system or processor architecture? 
 
 
   

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  • IBM trash talks SUN

    Has IBM every spoken sense. They always trash talk. IBM is the equivalent of IT trash (like trailer trash etc).

    And SUN aint all that innocent either. Their previuos CEO Scott was a trash talker.
    Now IBM says something about SUN and you guys write an article. Were you guys sleeping when IBM was trash talking everything else under the sun including closed source.
    zzz1234567890
  • IBM is sounding lame

    Trash talk works when it is believable. But IBM is just sounding desperate and lame. My guess is IBM fears the idea of Solaris gaining strength on x86. IBM hates being dependent on a competitor for an OS, and really liked the ability to play Red Hat and SuSE against each other. IBM's other fear is the possibility of the emergence of a Solaris virtuous circle on both x86 and SPARC. With UltraSPARC T1 reinvigorating low-end SPARC in the web and app tier, this is a real possibility. The risk to IBM is customers who like Solaris on their x86 and UltraSPARC T1 systems will want Solaris on their high-end systems, which would drive these customers to high-end SPARC systems from Sun and Fujitsu rather than pSeries from IBM.
    Solaris used to be a differentiator for Sun, but IBM was able to neutralize that and succeed with high-end POWER4 and POWER5 systems. Now Solaris may become a differentiator again, which could put IBM back solidly into 3rd place in UNIX again.
    Sun's Bryan Cantril, father of Dtrace, has some excellent suggestions for IBM at http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc?entry=dtrace_on_aix
    But can IBM accept the reality that innovation happens elsewhere?
    meh1309