Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

Summary: "So far we have not seen a big uptake in demand for SSDs," says Intel's CFO.

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One of the working theories revolving around hard drive shortages was that PC buyers would move toward solid state drives. However, the SSD revolution is on pause for now.

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Intel CFO Stacy Smith said that SSDs aren't taking off yet. Intel cut its sales outlook. Smith said:

So far we have not seen a big uptake in demand for SSDs. That said, I do expect that to happen. I think that it will be one of the ways that the industry helps offset some of the HDD shortage; and I also think if you go out towards the end of 2012, and you think about notebook computer at the end of 2012, which is very thin, very light, very power efficient, Ultrabook class machine, SSDs become really important in that. And so, we will certainly be using this as an opportunity to help drive that trend.

The SSD revolution may be on pause because the hard drive shortages haven't resulted in PC and laptop shortages just yet.

Tom Kilroy, Intel's general manager of its sales and marketing group, said SSDs may pick up once those shortages of computers surface. Kilroy said:

As the supply picture in HDD is becoming more apparent to our customers, they will look at all options going forward to address the gap that will be occurring in the supply chain. And so, the SSD picture could change going forward.

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  • Reasonable option

    Starting up a new PC equipped with even a 60GB SDD would be a reasonable option. In a year's time when HDD prices have come back down again one could fit a second 4TB disk, if required.
    jacksonjohn
    • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

      For me SSd are too small and there is no way to recover from a crash. Unlike standard harddrives
      rparker009
      • Sure there is.

        @rparker009: [i]For me SSd are too small and there is [b]no way to recover from a crash.[/b][/i]

        It's the same as for magnetic media...pull it off of your backup.
        ye
      • Oh really?

        [i]It's the same as for magnetic media...pull it off of your backup.[/i]

        Do you have an SSD? How do [b]you[/b] back it up, ye?

        I'm most curious, not that I'd expect much of an answer for you.
        ScorpioBlue
  • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

    If people won't buy your product, maybe you should lower your prices.

    3 TB Hitachi HDD = 7.912 GB/Dollar
    250 GB Intel SSD = 0.420 GB/Dollar

    'Nuff said.
    lehnerus2000
    • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

      @lehnerus2000 Well said
      topgun966
    • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

      @lehnerus2000 not enough said.

      Save your money.

      Get a betting paying job.

      Demand they sell at below cost and then complain when they go away.

      Works both ways...
      HypnoToad72
      • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

        @HypnoToad72

        HypnoToad, you need to see the REAL numbers on these SSD drives. They cost 1/10th of what they are charging to make overseas. Even taking into account transportation costs, these things are way overpriced.
        Lerianis10
      • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

        @HypnoToad72 <br><br>We've always been told that solid-state is cheaper and more reliable than mechanical.<br>Let's see:<br>[b]No redundancy[/b]<br>1 TB - 4 x (Intel 250 GB SSD) = 4 x $595 = $2380<br>[b]Redundancy[/b]<br>1 TB - Raid 5 (3 x WD Blue 500 GB HDD) = $300<br>2 TB - Raid 5 (3 x WD Black 1 TB HDD) = $723<br>[b]Redundancy x 2[/b]<br>1 TB - Raid 10 (6 x WD Blue 500 GB HDD) = $600<br>2 TB - Raid 10 (6 x WD Black 1 TB HDD) = $1446<br>[b]Capacity (6 SATA connectors)[/b]<br>1.5 TB - 6 x (Intel 250 GB SSD) = $6 x 595 = $3570<br>18 TB - 6 x (Hitachi 3 TB HDD) = $6 x 379 = $2274<br>[b]Speed[/b]<br>Intel 250 GB SSD<br>Sustained sequential read: Up to 270 MB/s<br>Sustained sequential write: Up to 220 MB/s<br>WD Black 1 TB HDD<br>Maximum sustained data rate: 126 MB/s<br><br>Is the SSD cheaper or more reliable? No.<br>Even using the most expensive HDD option above, I'd still have ~$1000 to spend on an Intel CPU.<br><br>The only categories that the SSD wins, are impact resistance, power consumption and speed.
        lehnerus2000
    • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

      @lehnerus2000
      beat me to it...
      Hey Intel - we need TB's not a few GB's. What is this 1998?
      12312332123
    • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

      @lehnerus2000

      And the Intel SSD also uses 1/50 the power. Oh, and it has 3 times faster sequential transfer rates. Oh, yeah, and the clincher, 4k IOP is 100X faster! Also, it weighs 1/4 as much. Heat waste? Breaking complex differences to childishly simplistic 2D graphs is everything which is wrong with this country.
      tkejlboom
      • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

        @tkejlboom
        This country?
        Power consumption is a concern for laptops (and server farms) not desktops.
        According to the info on the HDD label, my drive uses less than 10W.
        lehnerus2000
      • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

        "This country?"

        Yes. Look at any poll in any news media for anything about any president. It's a ridiculously simple graph that has no detail and is doctored to make some point that is usually totally irrelevant.

        We're a nation (and indeed a world, it seems) that relishes sensationalism over research.
        CobraA1
      • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

        @CobraA1
        I don't live in the US.
        Your points are true in most countries though.

        This is a case of the "Free Market" working exactly the way it's proponents claim it does.
        The product doesn't deliver value-for-money for most consumers.
        If it did, people would be buying it.

        The right solution is lower the price.
        The wrong solution is increase the price and then run a billion dollar marketing campaign.

        Any bets on which is the most likely to occur in the short term?
        lehnerus2000
    • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

      @lehnerus2000
      Hard drives must compete on price for the general public. They are a few years from a competitive price. A few seconds of faster boot is only impressive when you reboot. The most of us are being served fast enough with our clunky old hard drives. Of course I could use about 6TB more storage.
      hswaters@...
    • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

      @lehnerus2000 <br><br>I also agree. They also need to move away from cheap MLC drives towards more reliable SLC drives and lower the price on them.

      But I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
      ScorpioBlue
  • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

    Maybe it's time that laptops had the capability of using 2 drives, 1 SSD drive for the OS and another SATA drive for everything else. If the manufacturers customized their OS installation to store the data on the SATA drives, they could get away with smaller SSD drives as the OS drive.
    BrewmanNH
    • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

      @BrewmanNH
      There already are laptops that have dual HDD capacity, but they are in the custom gaming laptop (read big bucks). E.G. Originpc, Alienware, Sager and others.
      Jaytmoon
      • There are a few hybrind hard disks.

        @Jaytmoon: Combining SSD and magnetic media in one package. It would be interesting to see how they perform.
        ye
      • RE: Intel: Hard drive shortages aren't leading to SSD pop

        @ye: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive

        The buffer is generally only a few gigs, though, but it would be interesting to see one with much more storage space.
        alex.forencich