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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Is an IBM purchase of Red Hat inevitable?

By | May 15, 2009, 5:23am PDT

Summary: Despite a bevy of questions—looming competition from Oracle, takeover rumors and a weak economy—Red Hat appears to be humming along, according to Jeffries analyst Katherine Egbert. But in the long run, Red Hat will have to be subsumed into a large company—most likely IBM.  In a research note, Egbert touches on the short-term and long-term prognosis [...]

Despite a bevy of questions—looming competition from Oracle, takeover rumors and a weak economy—Red Hat appears to be humming along, according to Jeffries analyst Katherine Egbert. But in the long run, Red Hat will have to be subsumed into a large company—most likely IBM. 

In a research note, Egbert touches on the short-term and long-term prognosis for Red Hat. In the short run, she notes that there’s solid demand for Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Jboss in a down economy. Meanwhile, sales to the government—Red Hat has just beefed up its sales force to sell to Washington D.C.—are expected to get a stimulus boost. 

Egbert’s take echoes research by Piper Jaffray analyst Mark Murphy. Murphy surveyed 70 Red Hat customers and generally found that the company is gaining wallet share. 

Here’s the money slide from Murphy:

Simply put, Red Hat is looking strong. Wall Street is expecting the company to report earnings of 14 cents a share on revenue of $171.7 when its fiscal first quarter closes at the end of May. But there are a few moving parts. The biggest one is Oracle’s acquisition of Sun Microsystems. Will Oracle continue to support Red Hat products?

Egbert writes:

While Oracle’s CEO has said publicly that he will continue the company’s support of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), there is a sense within Red Hat that an increased focus on Open Solaris over RHEL is inevitable, as Oracle seeks to protect the declining Solaris maintenance stream. We estimate that 1/3 of Red Hat’s new business comes from Unix-to-Linux migrations, much of this from Solaris-to-Linux. The danger to Red Hat is that Oracle will offer customers attractive terms to stay on Solaris, potentially even paying them or offering discounts not to migrate.

If that scenario plays out Red Hat will increasingly be caught in the land of giants with Oracle on one end and Microsoft on the other. 

That reality points to a Red Hat takeover at some point, argues Egbert. She adds:

We believe it’s inevitable that Red Hat will be subsumed into a larger entity, probably IBM, given the strategic importance of RHEL with the data center. Here’s our reasoning:

To date, much of Red Hat’s success has come because the software is relatively inexpensive, Unix applications port easily to Linux, and because Red Hat is not Microsoft i.e. they are not a large, integrated vendor that can lure customers in with low pricing but exploit their pricing power once the customer becomes dependent on the software. Most customers view Red Hat Enterprise Linux as a way to break free of large vendor lock in and the high economic toll it extracts.

However, with Oracle buying Sun Red Hat now has 2 giant competitors, both of whom have virtually unlimited pricing power. We believe it will be increasingly difficult for Red Hat to compete over a sustained period as a small, standalone, independent vendor against the upcoming entry of Oracle, who could offer cheap hardware/software bundles, steep discounts to stay on or migrate to Open Solaris, or even pay customers to not use RHEL as they seek to stabilize the Solaris maintenance stream. Therefore, with Red Hat’s choice-based value proposition potentially pre-empted by a data center land grab among 2 giants, it seems to us that Red Hat needs a partner. A large partner. Someone with pricing power, C-level relationships, and a significant enough presence in the data center to combat the Oracle/Microsoft threat. IBM fits the bill.

Indeed, IBM could totally offset the threats to Red Hat from Microsoft and Oracle. A deal would make sense because:

  • IBM could bundle RHEL;
  • Jboss would complement Websphere;
  • IBM could leverage Red hat developers;
  • IBM would get and operating system and virtualization tools to play in all layers of infrastructure. 
  • The IT game is increasingly becoming a matter of dueling hardware and software stacks. Red Hat would provide IBM with more software ammo. 

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Cisco is overpriced. So is SUN. maybe they should get together...
Been_Done_Before 10th May 2011
Mikrotik is going to bury cisco and slackware is going to bury SUN.

atleast that my opinion and my reality....
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Jboss would complement Websphere?
putty.master Updated - 15th May 2009
Really? Is that like how MySQL is going to complement Oracle's flagship product? Doesn't make sense to me, these products are in direct competition with eachother.

I think the biggest threat to RedHat's business model is CentOS. Smart companies will have one or two RedHat agreements in place for support purposes and then just use CentOS RPMs for free.
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I believe you are right...
storm14k 15th May 2009
..that smart companies bulk up on CentOS. However I believe Red Hat like most other companies dealing in FOSS accounts for this. They will make their money off three types of groups..

1. The shop that KNOWS they don't have the in house expertise
2. The shop thats really run by the business execs that need a corporate name tied to their server OS.
3. The shop that just doesn't know any better.

The shops in the "know" as you said will run CentOS. I currently deal with a shop that may be a cross between 2 and 3. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that CentOS is the same thing as RHEL and Unbreakable.
And there'll be many of those appearing over the next few years.
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Why is $5,000/year inexpensive?
vision@... 15th May 2009
I find it absolutely astounding that this gross misperception continues to perpetuate. Whoever says that it is easier to port to Linux than UNIX, must have never tried to install a list of 50 identical newly released applications or upgraded to new versions on both. It feels as though almost nothing works on "linux", but everything runs on SPARC Solaris!

How many linux fans have worked with Solaris "format" (although you might as well delete your data as run it on Solstice Disk Suite or Sun Volume Manager) or HP LVM in SAM, then compared it to fdisk! Ok, so Sun Support is also an oxymoron, so use Veritas Storage Foundation (Basic is now downloadable for free and their support is a steal for what you get!) with Solaris. Veritas, without peer, is the defacto standard for technical support!!! Run large mission-critical storage without Veritas to your own peril!

Also, try using Sun and HP packaging (e.g. pkgadd and Software Distributor) compared to RPM (Red Hat Package Manager) Hell when you need to upgrade only one package.

Try being oncall 24x7x365 for hundreds of both x64 linux and SPARC Solaris servers - you'll quickly learn to despise x86/x64 linux after losing a server a night for months on end - especially if running on "that popular virtualization software". What is your uptime worth?

Finally, what kind of scales are we talking about? When did you last connect 10 x 1TB external filesystems to a linux box then really pound on them? Ever seen them turn read-only? Try loading a couple thousand users on a single physical (vs. virtual) x64 server that only takes up 2-4U in a rack!

Put your hand behind a running x64 server and then behind a Sun T2 and tell me which is warmer, BY ALOT! It's a simple test. Now guess which one is wasting the most power, space and air conditioning. Unless you get data center rack space and electrical power for free, it should matter to you and will be blatantly reflected in your budget.

If you understand that the cost of a server is not just the price of a chassis, motherboard, CPU, disk, and memory (aka TCO), then you will grasp why Sun T2 is so inexpensive. It is downright cheap when you see that the price for the Sun T2 server is the same as your x64, but it will not be obsolete (or dead) in 3 years.
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There must be a boatload of links that cover this. Would you be able to supply just a few unbiased ones?

[I've taken a snapshot of this post 'cause I like taking pictures... Na, you know why]
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I have a better idea
vision@... 15th May 2009
Why don't you just let people judge for themselves. In the meantime, post something that proves me wrong.

Regrettably, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. I see you blasting Microsoft a lot across all the blogs. How much experience do you have with that? As far as I can tell, all you seem to comment on is linux, virtually always without any substantiation. Instead, you just call everyone stupid, idiots, or liars. It didn't surprise me to see that you didn't deliver any concrete counters to my statements.

Ok, we've all heard enough about your labor pains. How about just showing us the baby.
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How much experience?
kozmcrae 15th May 2009
Are you serious? How much experience do I have "blasting Microsoft"? A hell of a lot as you pointed out. But apparently not enough. Right again. I do comment almost entirely on Linux. What difference does that make? I've tried the substantiation route. It doesn't work. Some of these posters, maybe even many of them, are paid by or derive their income in some way from Microsoft. How could I substantiate that? I can't. It's just as well because they would come up with something to counter my point. I prefer different methods to reveal the absurdity of their points. Nearly every time the link to their "facts" it has a "microsoft" in it. Calling someone stupid, idiot or liar is another way of saying, "discussion over". It's not polite of me at all but then these are not polite comment boards either. I don't know how they could be.

The next wave is upon us and everybody is here defending their future. If you expect people to be nice then I commend you for that, unfortunately that also makes you a fool. Don't feel too badly though, I'm here talking to you and that makes me a fool also.
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Don't give up the good fight, Buddy ;-D
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Sun Servers
Christian_<>< 15th May 2009
Are you saying that Sun Solaris and their hardware is superior to a linux distro?
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well said
super_J 15th May 2009
Sun should have hired you as their marketing and sales CEO years ago.

But Sun didn't, and failed to get that message (i.e. your post) across to enough customers.
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Please NO, let Red Hat alone it WORKS!!!
Christian_<>< 15th May 2009
I am an RHCE and I use RHEL, Centos, and Fedora depending on Production or how critical something is I install RHEL and I am done.

Personal stuff, or testing I use others, Red Hat has great support and a great business model, I don't want a mega corp ruining something that works!

sad
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Cisco May Be the White Knight
patrick.j.mcdonough@... 15th May 2009
Cisco May Be the White Knight

They are in practically _every_ data center. They've already announced their intention to compete across the whole stack. They OEM Red Hat products for some of their hardware. A smaller, open source software company could be the perfect acquisition to enable them to step outside their core competency a bit.
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Very good point.
fr0thy2 15th May 2009
But would Cisco ruin it all by trying to milk it too much?
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Red Hat is doing just fine by it's self...
brokndodge@... 15th May 2009
why does every one believe mega corps should buy up all the smaller companies they can grab. we have enough mega corps. big blue has it's own set of products and services that they have spent billions of dollars to engineer and promote. red hat's products and services overlap big blues in every sense. big blue would be forced to shut most if not all of the overlaps down. where would that help them, they spend a billion dollars or more just to acquire a small company with revenues in the hundreds of millions. not likely.

didn't make much sense for oracle to by sun either. overlapping products. managed right tho, they might just be able to put together a complete solution that will compete directly with big blue. but, since when is oracle or sun managed right? cisco? well, i'll think about that one.

i still think red hat is doing fine by it's self. the only advantage might be if they were to acquire a proprietary hardware unit. then they could harden their brand of linux to their brand of hardware. that might not be good tho, as then they would loose their advantage. portability.

i heard some mention of using cent os in lieu of rhel. thats all fine, but i think centos is more competition for ubuntu server then for red hat. red hat's core business is support. like someone else said, they are after the company that needs branded servers or just simply don't have the it resources to handle their demand.

red hat doesn't need to be bought by anyone. this is just like saying that apple is in trouble even though their year over year revenue growth has been in excess of 25% and they are operating at a net profit of over $4 billion. red hat isn't after the first place spot, they are simply trying to turn a profit. i think they have succeeded at that goal.
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Excellent post! P6 and AIX
vision@... 15th May 2009
IBM does have their own proprietary architecture in the P6 though. They like their AIX OS. It is probably a bit overdue for a kernel rewrite, but packs alot of features and has a very strong following. IBM is somewhat more capitalistic, so might prefer eliminating competition for their $100k entry servers vs. distributing old Microsoft Xenix/SCO UNIX pirated code for the common good. IBM also has some nice NUMA stuff, but are rather ahead of the average customer learning curve with that. It's also not cheap. If true, maybe they think of it as just a counter to OpenSolaris and Ubuntu on SPARC or Oracle's own 2 homebrewed Linuxes.
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one thing.
rclarke250@... 19th May 2009
AIX 5.0 is based on the Red Hat kernel. IBM didn't buy Red Hat to build AIX 5.0, so I see no reason that they should purchase it now. Also IBM already packages RHEL, or Suse Ent. as a linux distro. on X series and Blade servers. along with RHEL on the Power series.
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Simple
Kaiwai 16th May 2009
To bring more profit into the their company; and use the ability to
control the 'whole stack' to their advantage. profit, profit, profit and
profit.
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You're assuming IBM cares
wolf_z 16th May 2009
Red Hat's nothing special. It's a distribution wit a support network. IBM has its own support network, so what would buying Redhat get them that they can't get for free? With someone else doing the work, no less!
Mikrotik is going to bury cisco and slackware is going to bury SUN.

atleast that my opinion and my reality....

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