Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

Summary: Kodak has won another battle in its ongoing legal wars with Apple over digital camera patent infringements.

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Kodak has won another battle in its ongoing legal wars with Apple over digital camera patent infringements.

International Trade Commission Judge Robert Rogers declared on Thursday that Kodak's digital camera technology does not infringe upon Apple's patents. According to Bloomberg, that ruling asserted that "neither of the two patents in Apple’s case before the ITC were being infringed, and one of the patents is invalid." Apple reportedly claimed that those technologies were being used illegally in Kodak's Z-series, M-series, C-series, and Slice cameras.

However, Kodak's work with the ITC isn't done yet. After a full review of Rogers's ruling, an official decision will be handed out on September 19. Not to mention that Kodak already has some extra timely legal woes involving the Cupertino company.

Kodak previously lost out to Apple (and RIM) in a different lawsuit about digital cameras in mobile phones earlier this year. However, the road turned for Kodak in late March when it won the following round in the patent dispute. A final decision for that case is expected on May 23.

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  • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

    Congrates to Kodak, but the fight is probabl not over just yet!
    NPGMBR
    • And it was **not** 'lawsuit'; this was ITC, not court matter

      @NPGMBR: and the parties simultaneously filed actual lawsuits against each other in the courts (these will take longer time to proceed than ITC hearings).
      DDERSSS
      • hedging

        @denisrs That's SOP, there's time constraints, enforced discovery etc that makes filing in parallel with regulatory (administrative) remediation pretty much a necessity.

        Depending on the tea leaves coming out of ITC one, the other or both parties may elect to drop the court action. The courts are going to give wide deference to ITC decisions, unless there is a matter of first impression regarding the law itself. (not the details of the conflict, but, for eg, is this regulation legitimately pursuant to the statute?)
        pgit
    • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

      @NPGMBR

      Probably not...love how these mega corporations sue the crap out of each other and stick us with over priced trinkets that kill the planet and help them pay for their legal fees.
      Rob.sharp
  • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

    Lawsuits are nutz, only the lawyers win.. But since Apple is SUE CRAZY, its good to see them lose... And the prices on computers are Too High! you can get 2-3 windows computers for the same price, why buy an apple?
    llsdigitek1350
    • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

      @llsdigitek1350 "you can get 2-3 windows computers for the same price,why buy an apple?"

      You tell 'em. You can get 3 Chevrolet Aeros for the price of one Lexus LS 460. Why buy a Lexus?

      I'll keep my Lexus and My Mac, thank you. You keep the money difference and the "windows computers."
      OracleOfReason
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        I'm no far of Apple's antics, but I do appreciate having a tool that just works and doesn't need to be cajoled, baby-sat, pleaded with and constantly rebooted just to get a little use out of.
        wordzenpix
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @OracleOfReason Your whole comparison is flawed right from the start. There are such a huge variety of reasons why someone would not want to pay so much extra for a Mac.

        For one thing, they use basically the same hardware components as PC's but cost A LOT more to buy. Also, you can't even save yourself some money on a Mac and build it yourself like you can with a PC.

        Secondly, it's a lot more of a pain in the ass to replace hardware in a Mac than it is with a PC. Basically everything has to go through Apple where as with a PC I can go buy the component and install it myself if I'm inclined to do so (not to mention the Apple parts will cost more...of course).

        Another thing is the performance that people claim is oh so much better than a PC. Well, I suppose that IS a possibility if you take a direct comparison of a Mac and a PC running the same hardware. PC's do slow down more but mainly because of idiot people not knowing what they're doing on it. So let's take a PC and a Mac that are not equivalent in hardware, but equivalent in price instead. I can guarantee you that the PC will destroy the Mac performance-wise even with a rookie Windows-user installing programs all over the place and slowing it down. That's because the hardware boost you can get from paying Mac prices for a PC is just unbelievable.

        That just leaves the OS itself, and with Windows 7 I really don't think the "Mac is just easier to use" argument is that relevant anymore.

        So I guess if you look solely at how much you're paying then you should be able to buy a Lamborghini-esque PC for the cost of your Lexus-like Mac.
        jmckay417
      • Message has been deleted.

        Rick_K
      • wordzenpix, so you don't use Linux?

        @wordzenpix
        [i] tool that just works and doesn't need to be cajoled, baby-sat, pleaded with and constantly rebooted just to get a little use out of[/i]

        Doesn't sound like any of the Windows machines here at work, or at home, so I assume you're talking Linux.
        Will Pharaoh
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @Rick_K Wow, another Mac fanboi who doesn't care to bring up real points about anything...seems to be a pattern there.

        All you're doing is skewing what I said to make it look like you're right. In reality comparing a P4 to a Mac Pro is irrelevant and I never said anything of the sort. For something worthwhile to prove your point, why not take a top end Mac and find a PC with the same hardware to match up the price points.

        By the way, when you try to tell someone that they're wrong on several points, a usual flow of things would be to state the reasons why they are wrong. This is why conversations between PC and Mac users never go anywhere, the Mac users never have actual reasons for anything.
        jmckay417
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        Ditto
        David Dionne
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @OracleOfReason

        Your comparison is not valid. If there is a real difference in capability and quality between Apple and PC, the difference is just as likely to favor the PC as the Apple. Very different set of circumstances than comparing an Aero to a Lexus. Nothing against either Apple or Microsoft. But a great deal against the (crapple idiot fanbois) AND the (stupid NBMers). Not to mention the loud mouths in my own camp. I am exclusively Linux, and some of the things I see Linux fanatics say on these forums is simply awful. Use what suits you and shut up about the rest. Why you had to mention that you have a Lexus while in a tech blog is surprising. Really proud of it, aren't you?
        richdave
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        jmkay says "Apple honestly has no desire to play in the Walmart playground,". I guess you don't go to Wal-Mart that has been pushing their price specials on Apple Products. Wal-Mart sells them at a 1% discount!
        http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=3944&ic=48_0&Find.x=0&Find.y=0&Find=Find&_ta=1&search_query=apple&_tt=apple
        mswift@...
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @mswift actually that wasn't me who said that, that would have been the fanboi Rick_K
        jmckay417
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @OracleOfReason - Your nickname tells me all I need to know. By the way, a Lexus is highly inappropriate for someone of your stature, you need a Turbo Carrera or better.
        dev/null
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @OracleOfReason

        Enjoy the retirement that you clearly are not saving for....sad to see so many that don't understand finance ;-)

        Hope you can live in your Lexus

        Cheers
        ColdFusion_z
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @richdave: " Use what suits you and shut up about the rest."

        Hear, hear. Doesn't affect you if I use Windows, a Mac, Linux or manage to get BeOS running on something. Use what you want/need to and leave it at that. The OS wars were ridiculous and tiring in the DOS days. They haven't gotten any better (or worthwhile.)
        egmccann
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @OracleOfReason
        Because you are a little arrogant i'll let you know that you brought both the wrong car and the wrong computer.

        I'll keep my BMW 545i & PC thank you. ;)
        dunners6
      • RE: Kodak wins over Apple in patent infringement lawsuit

        @OracleOfReason
        Yes and you can get how Lexus for the cost of a Rolls Royce? I'm assuming your going to trade in the Lexus? The question that has to be answered is the added cost worth it to you for two items that do the same thing just as well? If you want to show off (the coolness factor) go ahead. It's your money and nobody has the right to say different. It's not worth it to me. I've had HP PCs that lasted as long as any Apple I've heard of without problems. I have two iPads and three iPhones in the family because I haven't seen any thing else out there that can match them yet. Just can't say the same with computers.
        Joe Dufflebag