LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
Summary: A ruling against LimeWire and its founder could be a game changer - but for the better.
A federal judge in New York has delivered a precedent-setting decision around the controversial act of online file-sharing, ruling in favor of the recording industry and sending a message to anyone who facilitates or otherwise enables sharing of copyrighted materials that they will pay - and pay dearly.
The ruling, reported on CNET's Media Maverick blog, said the judge found that the parent company of the LimeWire software, as well as its founder, engaged in unfair competition and induced copyright infringement.
As much as I despise how the Recording Industry Association of America has used legal tactics to try to preserve old school business models and curb the growth of the digital music market, I have to say - and I still can't believe I'm saying it - that the judge was exactly right on this one.
Think about it: this isn't the summer of 1999 anymore. That's when those crazy college kids with powerful PCs and university broadband access were flocking to an online underground music-trading site called Napster. Theoretically, you could share any sort of file - including video - but music files known as mp3s were, by far, the reason people were coming to Napster. It took off like wildfire and, Napster immediately grabbed the attention of music fans - and the recording industry. It lasted about two years before eventually being shut down.
Back then, sharing files over the Internet wasn't so easy. Today, we have a lot of digital files and we share them easily - on YouTube, on Facebook, on Flickr, on Scribd. No matter the type of document, you can upload it to the cloud and give anyone you'd like access to it. That means that the unsigned garage bands, like those who found a following on Napster back in the day, now have YouTube channels, MySpace pages and other online venues to showcase themselves.
As for legal music downloads, iTunes, Amazon and Rhapsody have become household names. And they've been around a long time. That's why I find it hard to believe that anyone - including LimeWire - is still naive enough to think that there's nothing wrong with sharing digital music over the LimeWire network. The idea of getting something like music for free was hard to believe back in 1999. These days, it's almost laughable.
Almost.
I'm sure there are still some naive parents out there who truly don't know what their kids are doing online, including grabbing free music off of LimeWire. The RIAA tried - and was pretty effective at - sending a message by suing random file-sharers. But it took a PR beating for it. Going after LimeWire instead of file-sharers was a good call. The company had to know what was going on on its site.
I do have to say, though, that I was surprised that the judge also named founder Mark Gorton in his ruling, holding him responsible for decision. Maximum statutory damages is $150,000 for each registered work infringed and the network has surely enabled the sharing of millions of tracks. <
As CNET's Greg Sandoval points out, that part of the ruling "could set a precedent that might dissuade other entrepreneurs from challenging the entertainment sector's copyrights when developing new technology."
Maybe. But I like to think that true entrepreneurs will find a way to work within - or around - this decision or any other precedent-setting decision that's still to come. After all, look at how far we've come, despite all of the legal battles - from Napster all the way to this LimeWire ruling.
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I wish the media cartels would resume consumer lawsuits
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
Maybe most people realized instead that uploading thousands of songs was stealing, and recognized arguments like yours as the same crap their teenagers would try to pull on them.
Not stealing
Seriously calling it stealing totally minimizes the crime. I can steal your CD and you are only out a CD. Now if I infringe on your copyright that potentially could be life time of income you lose. A little theft is minor compared to someone picking your pocket for the rest of your life.
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
It is not stealing. Copyright is not an "inalienable right" or even a concept directly associated with property rights. In our Constitution, it is addressed in Article I Section 8, but as a quid pro quo or social contract. "Securing for a limited time" is the key term; limiting the rights of the original creator. When the RIAA and MPAA bribed Congress extended the time limit to a ridiculous extent, they broke the social contract. So I and many others believe the regulations to be unconstitutional, and that the public and even companies who rely on IP for their business will eventually kick Congress into repealing or reforming the laws. In the meantime, widespread disobedience is the indicator that citizens did not approve of this law, and will not comply to it.
Ah - "...the sopjistries of villains...
Uh huh. Keep on thinking that.
It's not theft, huh, because you ought to be able to get that stuff that represents someone's life work for free because you want it and, anyway, that's not *real* work?
(And i despise the MPAA and RIAA and their jackboot tactics ... but that doesn't mean that i'm not aware that IP is real property and that stealing it is just as much theft as stealing a car.)
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
Constitutional scholar Flores: I happen to think that the Air Force is unconstitutional! The Constitution ONLY authorizes the Army and the Navy in Article 1 of the Constitution, and there is no amendment that allows an Air Force to be supported. Will you join my cause?
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
I thought it went out with eMule and Kazaa.
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
Let's shut down the highway building companies!
What about companies that build sidewalks. I've heard that there are crimes there too.
Of course, people also go on holidays using those roads and have neighborhood events using the sidewalk, but who cares. let's close them because some may use them for ill.
How is that right?
Not just the highways
We need to get rid of all this atmosphere that assists law breakers in committing crimes.
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
Undoubtedly the main reason for Limewire, eMule, Kazaa and others was to trade copyrighted material.
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
Yep - let's ban you for making stupid comments promoting services designed for illegal activity.
That isn't the issue here is it.
Things that are designed for illegal activity are often banned.
Things that can be used for illegal activity, but are really designed for other purposes are usually not banned.
Why is Limewire necessary except for illegal activity - and what is it's primary legal use?
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
@Terry Flores - You should listen to yourself......
What the hell does your "legal" rhetoric have to do with anything? Clearly you've never created something with your own sweat, worked to get it out there for purchase, and then relied on that sale for your livelihood.
Let me break it down for you:
Did you take it? Yes
Was it freely given with permission by the owner? No
It's stealing.
Yes, the RIAA are a bunch of dirtbags, and yes they illegally inflated CD prices, but two wrongs don't make a right.
Solution: Don't buy it, or wait a while and buy for a lot less used, or on Amazon.
Either way, cut the crap about how you're "legally justified" as you see fit to do whatever you want.
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing
Good point. If I buy a [b]used[/b] CD off Amazon for $3.00, does the owner get any of those get royalties? Or if I privately sold my CD or DVD collection at a big discount? What then? Who gets the money off the sale?
Even the RIAA doesn't have the resources to go after aftermarket sales. I heard they considered it at one time but even they recognized how ridiculous it would be to do so.
Once the genie is out of the bottle, it's impossible to put it back in.
The atmosphere was not primarily introduced for crime
The atmosphere was not introduced to allow piracy.
Limewire was introduced primarily to enable sharing of files in an illegal manner.
Limewire has no major use for legitimate purposes.
As a consumer I hate that I will not be able to use Limewire to get free access to other people's property.
As someone who from time to time produces things of creative value, I dislike the idea that my work should be able to be given away by others - so that I cannot eat or live after I have performed work to produce something.
As a software developer I wonder how I could possibly earn a living from the hard work of developing software.
Do I have to make something physical for people to respect my rights?
Is the work of the mind, the keyboard and the mouse somehow not to be valued.
Is the work of writing songs not of value?
Is the work of performing songs, or even of the work of using a lot of fairly expensive equipment to record a song properly not of value?
Is the costs involved in developing software - such as power, water, food, computer equipment, internet access, etc. not to be counted?
Will the users of Limewire, or those who promote it's use, pay for that equipment, those costs and my food so that I can live to work for them as slave labour?
Copyright theft is theft - and the social contract arguments are just mumbo-jumbo from people who don't have a clue about real life.
If those who argue for Limewire and for theft were prepared to pay for the real costs of the things they want for free then they would have some sort of moral argument.
But no - they are thieves who don't get it because they have no concept of creative endeavour or of the work involved.
Like most thieves they believe the world owes them the things they steal, and that somehow nobody gets hurt.
Like stealing a car and saying, it's ok, they'll be insured so nobody loses.
Well behind the Studios are a whole lot of people involved in creating something, and if the studios get no money then neither do the workers involved.
OK - you can argue that the music industry makes a lot - but legalising giving music away makes nothing for anyone.
The Movie industry makes a lot of money out of movies that succeed, and loses a lot out of the rest of the movies that fail. It's a big gamble, it pays well sometimes, and others lose a lot.
Make movie sharing legal and no movie makes money, without extensive product placement and in-movie advertising, which would just ruin everyone's day.
RE: LimeWire ruling changes game, should deter illegal file sharing