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LinuxWorld video: Merrill Lynch moves to stateless computing

By | August 5, 2008, 11:00am PDT

At the LinuxWorld conference in San Francisco, Jeffrey Birnbaum, managing director and chief technology architect at Merrill Lynch, speaks about using cloud computing to reduce complexities and costs in financial services. He discusses the move away from dedicated machines and why ideas old like virtualization have become useful again.

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RE: LinuxWorld video: Merrill Lynch moves to stateless computing
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Putting your fate in someone else's hands is simply not a good idea. You may get away with doing so once or twice, but eventually you will get bitten very badly. As for the old mainframes: when I was in college we switched away from them to PCs, and it was the greatest liberation there was. There is no way I'll give up my PCs for terminals in the future.

This guy and cloud advocates need to realize that the computer industry is becoming increasingly user oriented - vs. admin oriented. Users demand greater and greater user experiences which keep thin client computing at bay. Now cloud computing will grow to support some of the scenarios the guy cited in the video. But I don't see how on earth it will displace the desire for rich clients by users which wield ultimate power. Cloud computing for the most part will extend current IT within the business and consumer worlds. It will not displace them.
Now here's a guy thats not daunted to look at history for some valid answers.
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Good on you Merrill Lynch for recognising validity of those forgotten systems unique qualities and bring their attention back to the public eye.
Maybe 'stateless computing' is what we already see with the SETI project or Xgrid in Apple.
With the growth of multi-core PCs and smarter OSs it makes sense to look at those options.
Unused capacity in each PC on a network may well act as the 'server' for the whole network?
Jeff's presentation is motherhood and applepie stuff. While many enterprises continue to optimize and operate at great levels of efficiency, all this guy had to say was that you need to share, duh. LinuxWorld had a half decent reputation to invite leaders who have a clue and who can paint a vision of the future not an imbecile moron talking about ancient and well understood topics. It is very disappointing that a firm of Merrill's stature would send someone like this to LinuxWorld much less the organizers not reviewing his content for any intellectual insight. Quite disappointing indeed.
As with most of the posts here, they don't seem to understand Jeff and Merrill's "stateless" vision at all. It isn't about going back to thin-clients, it isn't about eschewing the mainframe and it isn't really about "cloud computing"... it's about centrally managing the entire software environment that you use, so that you no longer need to install this huge, thick, heavy stack of software on your local machine (which presents a management, security and scalability headache).

With a centrally managed repository of thousands upon thousands of compiled packages for all of the supported platforms and architectures, you can deliver anything you want to any client, globally, instantly.

That, is stateless. Nothing on the local machine maintains any "state", but it is very much a thick-client.
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