Microsoft vs Mass.: What ever happened to 'The customer is always right'?
Summary: Is it just me, or is there something highly unusual about the extremely hard time that Microsoft is giving to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts over its decision to move to Open Document Format (ODF) as the standard for storing files produced by productivity applications like word processors and spreadsheets? Whatever happened to the old saying that "The customer is always right (even when they're wrong)?
Is it just me, or is there something highly unusual about the extremely hard time that Microsoft is giving to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts over its decision to move to Open Document Format (ODF) as the standard for storing files produced by productivity applications like word processors and spreadsheets? Whatever happened to the old saying that "The customer is always right (even when they're wrong)?"
Just when I thought I beat this issue to death with several blog posts, along comes a recording of the Open Format Meeting that was held in Massachusetts by the Mass Technology Leadership Council where the Commonwealth of Massachusetts heard feedback "on the latest draft iteration of their Enterprise Technical Reference Model, specifically the section on document formats." Massachusetts Secretary of Administration and Finance Eric Kriss was in attendance as was the Commonwealth's CIO Peter Quinn. Although than MP3 audio file of the entire meeting can be downloaded off the Net, text transcripts are beginning to show up. The first one I noticed was on one of Tim Bray's posts (see New England Town Meeting) where he excerpted an exchange between Microsoft National Technology Officer Stuart McKee and other Microsoft representatives
What stood out to me is that Quinn (and other Massachusetts officials) spelled out in no uncertain terms what was important to the Commonwealth, what the Commonwealth's definition of open was, and what Microsoft had to do to satisfy the Commonwealth's requirements.
On the "of critical importance" front, the discussion covered in great detail what it means for a state in the United States to maintain its sovereignty and how state officials felt that proprietary technologies are at odds with that sovereignty. The officials made it pretty clear that it felt as though the intellectual property rights (IPR) that Microsoft is maintaining with respect to its file formats were at odds with the non-negotiability of the Commonwealth's sovereignty. They acknowledged that it had no problem with software companies maintaining IPR on the software itself, like Microsoft Office. But, to the extent that public documents will be stored electronically using certain file formats, there's minimal room for IPR to be connected with those formats.
Mass. officials also gave their definition of an open specification as one that meets the following three criteria:
- It must have no or absolutely minimal legal restrictions attached to it.
- It must be published and subject to peer review
- It must be subject to joint stewardship
With the three criteria laid out, the officials explained to Microsoft's McKee and others that if Microsoft dropped it's patents on the file formats, really published the standard so it was available for peer review, and made the current versions and future modifications subject to joint stewardship, that it would be open to reconsidering its policy.
As you can see from the transcript on Bray's blog, and as you can hear from the audio file, McKee and the others representing Microsoft were fairly respectful in their delivery. But, while I wasn't present to see the body language, the audio made it seemed as though they were out of place in conservative New England culture -- cracking coffee jokes at a relatively serious meeting and saying things like "There's 400 million people using Office. It's embarrassing to say that very frequently." No one was laughing. At one point, during a sort of tongue-in-cheek invitation to an IT matters debate, McKee confused New England Talk Radio Host Howie Carr with Harvard's Nicholas Carr.
As a result of the deliberations with Massachusetts, Microsoft apparently swallowed a bitter pill by making the license to the Office file formats perpetual and royalty-free. McKee noted this was a big change for Microsoft. While Microsoft has come a long way in addressing the Commonwealth's concerns, rather than adopting a conciliatory tone (and this is my opinion), Microsoft's overall response in the meeting challenged the Commonwealth's logic and put state officials on the spot, forcing them to explain their rationale in a way that most companies would never tolerate (rather than saying "We totally get it, we hear you, we understand your requirements, and we'll get back to you"). At one point, Microsoft's Brian Berg made it clear that he and others had gone to the Commonwealth's Senators with the issue. Based on his account of those discussions, he briefly called into question the Commonwealth's execution of the legislation that led to policy requiring ODF.
At one point [time code 1:12:20], McKee lectured Secretary Kriss on how Microsoft's intellectual property is key to the company's revenue generation and tax payments and then asked Kriss "Are you talking about extinguishing IP rights?" Responded Kriss:
Of course not. Intellectual property is extremely important. But when it comes to this specific issue and the definition of a file format, you can always make the claim of intellectual property to the definition of a file format. That is any corporation's or any individual's rights to do so.. It's just that that doesn't serve the needs of a sovereign state. Here we have a true conflict between the notion of intellectual property and the notion of sovereignty. I would say 100 percent of the time in a democracy, sovereignty trumps intellectual property.
Massachusetts is currently ground zero for the soul searching Microsoft must do. If it capitulates, as it already has to some extent on the license to its formats (thanks to Massachusetts), then the rest of the world gets to benefit from the new license terms. In that respect, the license terms are more like a house of cards. If the formats get opened (Massachusetts-style), then a piece of the footing on which the entire Office and Windows franchise stand will have crumbled and what happens next is anybody's guess. At the same time, Microsoft's business model and tactics are being drawn into question.
During the deliberations, Massachusetts officials also made it clear that the cost of sticking with Microsoft was a major pain point, citing how the next version of Office (to the best of their knowledge) will not run on Windows 2000 and they'll be forced to upgrade a bunch of operating systems too (the state has 80,000 employees). With a format like ODF, back-level support -- even if the format matures -- won't be subject to the whims of a single vendor's decision. That's what sovereignty is about.
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Finally someone that gets it and has the cajones
Massachusetts sovereign???
re:Massachusetts sovereign???
Well, duh
Another is rising prices.
A monopoly in name only ...
Or, I can dump the pre-loaded OS and install FreeBSD or SCO's UNIX SVR4 or Solaris or JDS or Novell Linux Desktop or Fedora or any number of other Linux flavors -- a number of which are free or almost free.
The main difference between these choices is that only the preloaded choices do not require the user to have any special knowledge.
Beyond that, the preloaded choices, like the self-loaded choices, differ in price-point, available applications, and availability. Nevertheless, the choices are there to be found.
Whether it is wise of not, apparently, the vast majorty of users prefer Windows.
opportunity for third party word to ODF converter
The other day a guy pushed a free trial of a internet use monitor on me. I said "ok but it'll be here for a couple of months" because I'm away for three weeks on holiday. When I came back, it hadn't performed very well, and I talked to the guy about sending it back. Minutes later he was complaining to my boss about me!
Needless to say, that corp is NEVER going to get our business. And I'll tell the story to any IT staff when the issue comes up.
I guess in this case the Microsoft employees can't have any really good intellectual reasons to argue, since they resort to complaining to the bosses of the Mass. employees.
Microsoft has made it's products more secure, but it seems like they are still weighed down by these corporate "i'm mr important" bad-boys.
They need to restructure these guys out of jobs to keep business sweet.
But which third party has access to the complete MS format specifications?
AFAIK office12 xml is freely usable apart from for GPL apps
And what about BSD apps?
Question for Microsoft
"If a substantial portion of Office users indicated that they would like Microsoft to add Open Document import/export ability to Office, would Microsoft do it?"
got an answer
http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/archive/2005/09/22/472826.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage
But David, I still think it would be good if you asked them.
So they still wouldn't be satisfied
I think a reason that MS can question the officials about their choice is 1) they ARE public officials who are publicly accountable for their decisions, corporations are not so much, and 2) I think MS might've been trying to gauge how much of this decision was a political move and how much of it was out of a real practical need. That's what I'd do, anyway. If I were MS, I wouldn't want to get in the midst of a political fight. Let MA hang itself if that's what they want to engage in. On the other hand, if MS's software/file formats is clearly deficient in meeting the needs of the state on the merits, and that's the chief concern, then I think they'd be more receptive to negotiating.
If Microsoft was based in MA instead of Redmond, would we be seeing this?
If Microsoft was based in MA instead of Redmond generating revenue for MA, would we be seeing this? Probably not.
I agree that Microsoft should open up their document formats, they pretty much already are because OOo, StarOffice, Word Perfect can already write to Office formats. But we should be very careful when we talk about ODF XML documents because my tests have shown that they are about 100 times slower to create and load using OpenOffice than existing Microsoft binary formats.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=101
MA's monopoly prosecution not a factor
I could be wrong, but people do have their biases
I believe that Microsoft should open their own existing file formats, but shared control of a Microsoft format seems to be going a bit far. On the other hand, ODF and OpenOffice.org have shown in my tests to be absolute pigs when it comes to processing and memory overhead. ODF and OOo are literally two orders of magnitude slower and eats up tons of memory while in use compared to Microsoft Office.
I think it was foolish of Microsoft to debate this issue the way they have been doing it the last few weeks because it's a lose-lose situation from a PR stand point.
I agree with you.
And yes, people do have their biases. We certainly know what yours
are. Perhaps that's why you're so frequently wrong.
George Ou's hidden agenda
Hmmm.... Is that why he's playing nice with John Carroll?
Yes they do
Yes they do, and this coming from George;-)
Yes, every one posting here does
Only MS has to offer OpenDocument formats?
Please elaborate...