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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Microsoft's Project Natal for business: In your dreams

By | July 31, 2009, 2:31am PDT

Natural user interfaces will be big. Anyone that sees Microsoft’s Project Natal demo comes away impressed. Once Microsoft execs try to extend that to the business world you can’t help but snicker.

That clunky transition from the Xbox to the business world was in plain view at Microsoft’s financial analyst meeting. First up, was Microsoft entertainment and devices chief Robbie Bach. Bach talked about the Xbox, Windows Mobile and Zune businesses, but the most promising item displayed was Project Natal. The gist: The Project Natal technology allows you to play games without controllers. Bach said:

We want to take the controller out of the experience and let people use themselves as a controller and have a very natural interaction and natural entertainment experience.

Sounds promising and I have little doubt that this natural interaction interface could entice me to buy an Xbox at some point. But my ears really perked up when Bach bridged his natural interaction interface to the business world. Enter Craig Mundie, Microsoft’s chief research and strategy officer, who I was hoping would give me some sliver of an ROI case.

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Good luck with that one. Mundie’s talk was a bit pie in the sky. He talked of offices wired with sensors and microphones. Telepresence everywhere. My first thought: What’s that office going to run a company? Second thought: All that stuff looks distracting.

Mundie argued that computers would be environmentally aware, do work for you and help you model solutions to real problems. Mundie said:

One of the greatest opportunities going forward is to realize there will be a successor to the desktop. It is the room. It is the fixed computing environment. The question is what can you do with computing when you have a much more robust man-machine interaction model and you don’t have to fold it in half and move it and run it on a battery.

At this point, I’m wondering how you’d build the ROI case? Travel budget? Increased sales?

Mundie’s office of the future had surface computers, telepresence and wall widgets sending data your way. It looked a little more expensive than that sub-$1,000 laptop the IT department hands you.

Mundie is convinced that Project Natal, a potential differentiator for the Xbox, will eventually go corporate.

Here I’m not playing the Ricochet game but I’m using the same technologies to bring these things together and create a way where I have a very natural human interaction model between the computer environment, the real world environment and the tasks that I want to work on. This is our dream, but it is really not that far away. And if you think about the extrapolation from what Robbie showed in the Xbox utilization of this camera technology to what I’ve shown here, we see a pretty direct path to make this happen. We have all the technologies necessary to do this in our research labs. And our goal right now as a management team is to really create an accelerated pipeline where the great work we do in the Microsoft Research labs is able to go into this product on a rapid basis.

Perhaps Microsoft’s vision of the corporate interface happens sooner than later, but given companies are pushing five-year PC replacement cycles, clinging to Windows XP and hunkering down don’t hold your breath.

Here’s Project Natal in action from E3:

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RE: Microsoft's Project Natal for business: In your dreams
dsfwrryd4101-24353678324541271121611409328105 6th Nov
agpjyx,good post!
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Just came back from vacation in Italy
honeymonster 31st Jul 2009
Drove through Germany. Above each of the urinals in the autostrada rastst?tte is an LCD screen running music channels and commercials. They have a display for when you take a leak!

Where I live the taxis are being outfitted with LCD screens for the entertainment (and commercials, of course) for the passengers.

Never underestimate how deep a technology penetrates when it is commoditized.

These were visions more than concrete goals. Obviously not all of these visions will come through.

But the technology behind project Natal is so simple that it will start off from a much more modest place and grow from there, and who knows, if it hits there it may grow into encompassing entire rooms.

Outside the XBox I believe we will first see project Natal technology applied to notebooks/tablets. Instead of a single webcam simply fit 2 into the unit along with the infrared "grid emitter". Suddently touch may look awkfully old-fashioned. Now you don't need to grease the display - you can simple control objects by gestures in front of the display. With obvious extra interaction vectors because such gestures can be in 3D (like "squeeze and pick up" or "drop") instead of touch 2D. It also solves another touch painpoint: Your fingers obscure the screen at the exact time you need the most accurate feedback.

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REBEL!!!
Userama Updated - 31st Jul 2009
I hope we never reach the point where we accept these
omnipresent screens spouting "entertainment"--and ESPECIALLY
commercials--as a normal, positive thing. I hope we rebel with all
our might against such intrusions on our private and quiet times.
What we need are more places for quiet reflection and in-depth
thinking, not less.

Larry referred to the use of Natal in the office as "distracting". I
totally agree!
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I still believe in my heart of hearts that Natal is either witchcraft or powered by miniture imps inside the box.
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Think presentations/meetings
kvkalidindi 31st Jul 2009
- NOT word processing or Excel number crunching or intense software programming. There will obviously be applications that are suitable to gesture-based interaction, and those would be typically presentations/meetings.

Imagine a presentation/meeting/demo where the presenter just uses hand-gestures to transition between slides, zoom in or out of certain areas, or manipulate complex 3D renderings like CAD-CAM drawings or architectural plans, etc. These are obviously just a few scenarios that came to my mind. This scenario could be extended to collaborative interaction as the camera can recognize individual participants, and with multiple cameras, collaboration can take place over the internet using a WebEx-like infrastructure.
hand gestures would be very appropriate. :-P
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Exactly
johnmullinax 5th Aug 2009
Think presentations, engineering reviews, etc. Anywhere it makes sense help people immerse themselves in what they are interacting with .
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Soon we really will be living in the Matrix. If we're not already. Help us NEO.
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Maybe for colaborative designing, AutoCAD...
Roque Mocan Updated - 2nd Aug 2009
Where you can physically make a room larger, smaller, higher, lower, more to the left, more to the right... with gestures... Also navigating through the virtual world...

Also, combine with Seadragon technology (Deep Zoom) to show the whole financials picture, and then, in the boardroom, an analyst uses gestures to zoom in to expenses... and then continue zooming in to the line items... and there is a map detailing expenses in different countries...
I think you need an editor for your blog entries...
You know, it's interesting how the Touch features of Windows 7 were originally designated as Sensors. Plus the Alpha version of Natal they put together after Minority Report to show off a big but working gesture sensitive screen environment.

Now as far as Business implementation, one feature to add is face recognition so the computer can automatically power down when the user walks away from it, and demand a password when it doesn't recognize the person in front of it. And as mentioned, if this can work as the control of a powerpoint presentation, it would be big.

Overall, the point of Natal beyond gaming isn't so much to replace an existing technology as to supplement it. Well, and incorporate it into something bigger in the case of Voice Recognition. Though having used MS's voice recognition, I have to say Natal will be a bit more useful in at least the draft stage of word processor use than you might think. There's no replacement for a keyboard and mouse for proofreading, but voice recognition does a pretty good job of putting the words down as you think of them.
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RE: Microsoft's Project Natal for business: In your dreams
dsfwrryd4101-24353678324541271121611409328105 6th Nov
agpjyx,good post!

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