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Microsoft's Ray Ozzie talks cloud computing at Churchill Club

By | June 5, 2009, 3:30am PDT

Summary: I’ve been a pretty vocal critic of Microsoft in the past, scratching my head in amazement when the company does something wacky like a Jerry Seinfeld-Bill Gates commercial or Windows Vista. But after a Churchill Club dinner in Silicon Valley last night, I think have a better understanding of what’s happening over in Redmond. Microsoft is [...]

I’ve been a pretty vocal critic of Microsoft in the past, scratching my head in amazement when the company does something wacky like a Jerry Seinfeld-Bill Gates commercial or Windows Vista. But after a Churchill Club dinner in Silicon Valley last night, I think have a better understanding of what’s happening over in Redmond.

Microsoft is a massive operation that’s involves a lot of people in a lot of different cities working on a lot of different products and services for a lot of different types of customers. You don’t just walk in there and change the culture, the way of thinking or the karma overnight. Change comes slowly and from different avenues. Like a big ship, you turn it slowly.

Ray Ozzie, Microsoft’s Chief Software Architect and the guest speaker at last night’s dinner (Techmeme), said the company wasn’t necessarily talking or thinking about the cloud when he came on board as part of the acquisition of his company, called Groove Networks, in 2005. When it came time to start offering a new way of thinking about the cloud and software, the approach came slowly. At the event, he said:

In any large organization, the government, the military, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, change of management is a challenge. You cannot effect change by mandate. You can’t say this is the way it’s gonna be and everyone snaps.

Speaking at any event where the topic has to do with cloud computing means that you inevitably are asked to define cloud computing. Clearly, Ozzie must have given a lot of thought to a definition for the cloud but he actually may have given it too much thought. While not quite as babbling as Sen. Ted Stevens’ explanation of how the Internet works (remember the “series of tubes?”), Ozzie’s definition of cloud computing was definitely worthy of a “huh?” head shake.

…self-service on-demand way of accessing resources with a virtualized abstraction that is relatively homogeneous

Wow. That’s a mouthful. But it also goes to show that even someone like the Chief Software Architect at Microsoft struggles with a way to define the cloud. Still, he spoke highly of the work that Microsoft does in the cloud environment, as well as on the client side, to meet the changing needs of all types of customers, from consumers to large enterprise.

As for the non-cloud discussions during the event, Ozzie seemed to become anxious when asked about mobile phones. Clearly, something is on the way as he prefaced his response by saying that he wouldn’t discuss dates or features and then quickly shifted to note that Windows Mobile is being refreshed and that it will include features that will let phone manufacturers do more. It’s a competitive market, he said, and no longer will touch screens, media players or app stores be differentiators. It will take more than that.

He also took a moment to talk about the competition, notably Google’s announcement of Wave, a modern-day approach to organizing e-mail, IM and other online communications. Given his background with Lotus Notes and his interest in collaboration tools, Ozzie was actually very complimentary toward Google for undertaking such a mighty task. Still, he criticized Wave as being “anti-Web” because of its complexity that’s involved with it.

The Web, he said, is supposed to bring simplicity to our lives. Ironically, this comes from a giant company that finds itself playing catch up on cloud initiatives, in part, because of the complexity that is Microsoft.

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Other's have been doing it for so long
Sourcererr 5th Jun 2009
As I already commented, it's amazing how long other's
have been at this cloud thing and how long it takes
some to grasp the idea.
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And come back with humility and without the sense of entitlement.
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The days of big operating systems are over
Christian_<>< 5th Jun 2009
The future for MS having a big proprietary operating system to run on a desktop will come to an end.

With all of the environmentalist screaming about someone using electricity or driving, small appliance units will be the connectivity in the future. I don't see a PC requiring 1G of ram and 300G hard-drives being a big home run 5 years or 10 years down the road.


Linux distro's or appliances can do the job without having licensing, anti-virus, and all of the other cost just for someone to check email......


Just like a Hummer SUV, Microsoft is not going to be selling this expensive solution forever.
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Cloud Computing Definition
Rob Oakes Updated - 5th Jun 2009
I actually think that Ozzie's definition of cloud computing is pretty good. But it's in computer speak (which is why most of the journalists covering the event had a serious "huh?" moment).

Put another way, he's saying that cloud computing is about getting at your stuff (accessing resources) through the use of the same tools (with a virtualized abstraction that is relatively homogeneous) wherever you are (self-service on-demand).

Put even more simply: "always on, always available data and services."

See, once you break it down it isn't that complex after all.
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Ray did a fantastic job.
If you are in business you can appreciate what he's trying to do to steer MSFT to the web. They are huge with vested interests, and like any successful, mammoth company that takes time and the have to start from their base, the PC.

I disagree with Christian above... every device needs an OS, whether it's my PC, PS3, or phone. The size and sophistication of the OS will depend on what it's doing.

Despite the vocal haters out there, MSFT will continue to be relevant to computing for at least another decade, if not much longer.
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Who's in vs. Who's out
Sourcererr Updated - 5th Jun 2009
Google's in the cloud, NetDocuments is in the
cloud,
twitter, facebook, skype, etc, are in the
cloud,
Microsoft WANTS to be in the cloud. Keep
learning, and
keep following Microsoft.
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Other's have been doing it for so long
Sourcererr 5th Jun 2009
As I already commented, it's amazing how long other's
have been at this cloud thing and how long it takes
some to grasp the idea.

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